Response to the failed Pro Fencing League
TmanJRK
new Pro venture Cutting Edge Sports, part of which is the World Fencing
Federation vs the failed PFL and Alan Blakeborough. I have researched the PFL's
business plan and saw that Alan based his income off over 200 fencers that were
committed to fence in the tournaments. Based on that he rented a large facility
and everything that goes along with it. Needless to say he lost alot on those
committments. It is true he tried to grow fast. What i am doing is limiting it
to 8 - 10 fencers,and i have a deal worked with Bank of America (formerly
Nations Bank) i use their facility and every event is paid for as we go. The
expansion will come as endorsements do, which they are staring to come in even
more. So i have it going along debt free as i go. I have studied what Alan did
wrong and improved it.
I have Alan as a pro fencing here and ask him his mistakes. Roger Rice has
decided to open his own school called Knights of Sienna after Alans. The
concept of fencing schools was profitablein NY for Alan and is so for Roger
now,however; the PFL drained it. Now Roger is up and running and i send him
leads all the time. Wish us lick our only intent is to popularize fencing and
pay fencers good enough money so they can be better in the Olympics, and of
course i would like to make some cash also as a buisiness man. See ya JK
SUEBART666
fence profesionaly due to the complications there of
TmanJRK
was legal for Pros to fence in all USFA tournaments and Olympics
Eric Dew
TmanJRK <tma...@aol.com> wrote:
>those complications were addressed by the Olympic committee, they said that it
>was legal for Pros to fence in all USFA tournaments and Olympics
No, the problem is offering enough of a monetary incentive for fencers of
anywhere near decent skills to participate in your plans. That was the
failing of the PFL. There is no way you can make Olympians by dangling
$200 prize for first place. I spend more money flying to an armpit of a city
like Charlotte than I can ever recoup by winning whatever tournament you
hold.
Alan's a pretty good coach. I've seen some of his students, but they're
not anywhere in the league of students of Nazlymov or Sokol or Etropolski
or Pogosov. Alan may be able to make a decent top 16 in Div II fencer,
but he's not going to make Olympians.
So where are you going to get the Olympians from this endeavor? You can't
grow them, and you can't buy them.
Still, you can make a profitable professional fencing enterprise out of
your endeavors. Just don't go dreaming about the Olympics.
As for professionalizing your enterprise, I would advise any interested
parties not to sign up (duh) until you see something substantial, like
a Tax ID Number, some certificate or statement proving that these guys
are a legitimate business. It takes only one fly-by-nights to make one
a bit leery.
EDEW
Sasha Zucker
> Alan's a pretty good coach. I've seen some of his students, but they're
> not anywhere in the league of students of [snip]... Pogosov.
Gosh, thanks, Eric. I'm touched! ;-)
later,
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>
> Eric Dew wrote:
>
> > Alan's a pretty good coach. I've seen some of his students, but they're
> > not anywhere in the league of students of [snip]... Pogosov.
>
> Gosh, thanks, Eric. I'm touched! ;-)
>
> later,
>
> --
> -Sasha
> ___________________________________________________________________
>
> Sasha Zucker
> Technical Writer
> PTTO Documentation
Hi Sasha!
Thanks for the (very) quick lesson at PCCs...I think I got -- what - one
touch off you ? ;-)
Sam (he of the purple socks and bizzare equipment bag) Signorelli
TmanJRK
its pretty smug of you a non olympian to judge saying that there are not any
kids that could go to the Olympics under anyone elses teaching except those you
mentioned.Why dont you tell all the kids they have no hope to make it unless
they are coached by those, why not tell all the kids in Harlem and the bronx
who have know money to get to the great coaches so give up dont try. Your
ignorance gets greater the more you respond to me. Yoou are a human being that
has a big chip on his shoulder. Get over it
TmanJRK
people in the past have not listened to your advice! we would have nothing in
America.Go back to your job and hide in obscurity and DO NOT TRY anything
risky. Be a passive critic spectator of life
Eric Dew
Sasha Zucker <szu...@us.oracle.com> wrote:
>Eric Dew wrote:
>
>> Alan's a pretty good coach. I've seen some of his students, but they're
>> not anywhere in the league of students of [snip]... Pogosov.
>
>Gosh, thanks, Eric. I'm touched! ;-)
I had in mind one of his foil students, but I guess you count, too :-)
EDEW
Eric Dew
Look, don't come looking in this (or any) newsgroup for civilized discourse.
I don't know who the heck you are, and as such, I have little regard for you.
If you have equally little regard for me, fine by me. In my book, the
proof is in the final product. When you get kids into the Olympics, I'd
applaud you. Until then, your reputation is based on who you associate
with, and well, you know the story.
It's one thing to dream. It's another to actually get results. Let's
see your results. There's a coach in the Bay Area, Dan Tibbetts who
people at one time dismissed. He's got his students doing very well
nationally. His one kid, a 14 year old won the Div II Men's Epee in your
neck of the woods this past week. I've fenced Div II Men's Epee before
and can't get past the first round of DEs. Dan's got results. Where's
yours?
EDEW
Kathwardle
Relations Director and made the initial announcement of the founding of the PFL
here in this newsgroup. Some of you may also remember that I resigned from any
association with the group prior to the first event due to, shall we say,
management style differences? While I certainly do not have any inside scoop
on the politics of the new group, to try to represent Roger Rice as the force
behind the new Knights of Siena and Alan Blakeborough as "just a pro the WFF
hired" is a laugh--Alan was never someone to take a back seat like this and
anyone who knows him knows better. Furthermore, Roger Rice is not a "stupid
guy"--come on people, he is a dedicated young man to fencing, and after being
initially groomed by Alan in upstate NY he has moved down to NC to assist Alan
with the development of the fencing efforts in the area.
The concept of encouraging the expansion of fencing and public awareness of the
sport is nothing anyone in this group would be against. The issue seems to be
more one of format, trust, style, and integrity. I certainly wish the WFF
well, but would caution Alan Blakeborough's new staff and associates to try to
avoid inflaming people in this small circle. I know that the courage to move
forth where others have feared to walk has always been a source of pride for
Alan. Nonetheless, to have someone work as the new PR person for the WFF and
conduct himself in a style of insulting dedicated fencing people like Eric Dew
is unnecessary and uncalled for. There is plenty of room for reasonable
dialogue, and it would be nice if the staff of the WFF were interested in
this. My past history with the PFL would argue that they probably don't care
about dialogue--rather publicity, exposure, and financial backing. Even
controversy is welcomed--
BTW--Eric, I will always be appreciative of the coaching of Alan Blakeborough.
He started my family (including myself) fencing. Let's not be too quick to
attibute all the future fencing potential to the premiere elite coaches in this
country. Certainly they have an outstanding track record. But little
Mechanicville, NY also helped my son earn the gold at last year's U16 MS in
Austin, TX.
Katherine Wardle
Jason Anderson
that it is alarmingly similar to what we went through a couple of years
ago. Having dealt with people similar to Alan in the past, I've
observed that they usually operate with huge doses of charm and
charisma, and then pick up and move on to new territory where no one
knows of their previous activities, and begin anew.
Parallels between the WFF and PFL which reek of Blake include, but are
not limited to, the following:
1) Short, catchy anagram
2) Involvement of the KOS, Alan, et al.
3) Fencing in malls
4) Attempts to get people to fence in superhero outfits
(I remember the piles of comic books which littered the upper levels of
the KOS Mechanicville, including Frank Miller Daredevils with no
protection!)
5) Use of American patriotic jingoism, and
6) Bad spelling and grammar (the first PFL magazine was, bluntly,
offensive in its poor command of the language)
I don't know if these parallels are because of the proximity of Alan to
this little venture, or is the result of similarity of culture. I don't
care. I wish you success, but suspect we are about to see the same
scenario play out in Charlotte that we saw in Upstate New York.
HOWEVER, I will assume that YOUR participation is honest and innocent of
Alan's past. As the person who is representing the sport I love to the
media, sponsors and the general public, I must insist on your
maintainance of the highest level of professionalism. As Kathy Wardle
stated elsewhere in this thread, this includes all publications which
bear your effort's name. To this end, I will put on my editor's hat and
dissect a previous post of yours to show you what kind of first
impression you are giving this group, and presumably the media in your
press releases. (By editing this contribution I am in no way endorsing
what it says, or accepting its underlying logic. Editorial comments
will be offset by parentheses.)
TmanJRK wrote:
>
> your an idiot edew,
First word of a sentence should always be capitalized. "Your" in this
case should be a contraction of "you" and "are", i.e. "you're". (I am a
proponent of commas, but others would disagree with me, so I will insert
them where I believe they belong without comment.) "Edew" should be
followed by a period. This sentence should read, "You're an idiot,
edew."
> first of all i am not looking for investors, second of all
> its pretty smug of you a non olympian to judge saying that there are not any
> kids that could go to the Olympics under anyone elses teaching except those you
> mentioned.
Capitalize "first" and "i". Period after "investors". Change the "of
all" phrase to avoid repetition. Hyphen after "non", capitalize
"Olympian". "Kids" is plural, making "could" "can". Clean up the
remainder of this sentence. "Elses" should be "else's" as it is a
possessive.
These sentences should read (only one variation among many), "First of
all, I am not looking for investors. Second, its pretty smug of you, a
non-Olympian, to judge who is capable of coaching at an Olympic level."
> Why dont you tell all the kids they have no hope to make it unless
> they are coached by those,
An apostrophy belongs in "don't". "All the kids" implies either "all
kids in the world" or "all kids currently crowding up our salles",
neither of which you mean here. You mean "all kids who aspire to medal
at the Olympics". (I agree with Kathy that Alan is a capable coach,
especially at the beginner and intermediate level. I also agree with
Eric that he is not world class, at the same level as those mentioned by
Eric previously. This does not mean he never will.) Question mark
after "those" (since this is a rhetorical question), but I urge slightly
different wording. Sentence should read, "Why don't you tell all of our
aspiring Olympians that they have no hope of making it unless they are
coached by those approved by edew?" (or even better for the snarky
content, "the omniscient edew" ;) )
> why not tell all the kids in Harlem and the bronx
> who have know money to get to the great coaches so give up dont try.
This sentence has some focus problems (along with the mistaken
assumption that the Bronx and Harlem are hot beds of fencing). And, the
use of "know" for "no" I'll leave without comment. This sentence should
read, "Why not tell all the kids in Harlem and the Bronx who have no
money to get the great coaches to give up, or don't try at all?"
> Your
> ignorance gets greater the more you respond to me.
No comment.
> Yoou are a human being that
> has a big chip on his shoulder. Get over it
This is acceptable, less the typo.
And, while he may have a chip on his shoulder (probably coming from the
fact that he really tried to sell the format changes instituted by the
PFL to this list), you are very defensive. If you don't like what Eric
is saying, you can always kill file him. But, I urge you to listen to
what is being said in this forum. None of your protégés will make it to
the Olympics if the fencing community as a whole resists your effort.
You can start improving your image by proof-reading your correspondence.
Jason Anderson
to reply directly, replace "no_spam" with "po-box".
Matthew Cox
TmanJRK wrote:
> your an idiot edew, first of all i am not looking for investors, second of all
> its pretty smug of you a non olympian to judge saying that there are not any
> kids that could go to the Olympics under anyone elses teaching except those you
> mentioned.Why dont you tell all the kids they have no hope to make it unless
> they are coached by those, why not tell all the kids in Harlem and the bronx
> who have know money to get to the great coaches so give up dont try.
Actually, the kids in Harlem and the Bronx have access to some of the best coaches
in the US (re: Keeth Smart, Aki Spencer-El, Ivan Lee, etc). I don't know much about
any of these guys financial standing, but the Peter Westbrook Foundation has
dedicated itself to helping kids of the above description learn and excel in
fencing. I hope not to get trounced as Eric Dew has, but, this was not a
well-researched point, JK.
Matthew
Matthew Cox
> guy"--come on people, he is a dedicated young man to fencing, and after being
> initially groomed by Alan in upstate NY he has moved down to NC to assist Alan
> with the development of the fencing efforts in the area.
Does this imply that there is a need to improve fencing efforts in NC? As far as I
know, a lot of the folks that are fencing in NC are wary of the type of publicity
and image that the PFL/WFF can bring to the NC Division.
I sure hope that folks' discomforts are unfounded.
Matthew
Dirk Goldgar
>
>Look, don't come looking in this (or any) newsgroup for civilized
discourse.
Oh dear, is there some rule against civilized discourse in newsgroups?
Sorry, I guess I missed that one.
Dirk Goldgar
Kitt Burch
Dirk Goldgar <di...@NOSPAMagcsys.com> wrote in article
<37851...@news.nerc.com>...
Yep, It's in the bylaws. If you allow one person to make sense then pretty
soon they all want to make sense and where can you go from there. It's
much better this way, trust me.
-Kitt
(Who, BTW, didn't make it past the first round of DE's at Div II Men's Foil)
Eric Dew
Dirk Goldgar <di...@NOSPAMagcsys.com> wrote:
>Eric Dew wrote in message <7m1g5l$q...@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com>...
>>
>>Look, don't come looking in this (or any) newsgroup for civilized
>discourse.
>
>Oh dear, is there some rule against civilized discourse in newsgroups?
>Sorry, I guess I missed that one.
>
>Dirk Goldgar
>
no rules, and as such, no rules for decorum.
EDEW
>
Eric Dew
Dream all you want. But don't try to pass it off as a legitimate enterprise
unless you have a formulated and written down business plan.
EDEW
D. Kim
Jason Anderson wrote the following (among other faux pas):
> 1) Short, catchy anagram
I believe you mean "acronym."
> 5) Use of American patriotic jingoism, and
"Patriotic jingoism" is redundant.
> "Olympian". "Kids" is plural, making "could" "can". Clean up the
"Could" is a subjunctive modal having nothing to do with number in that
usage.
> An apostrophy belongs in "don't". "All the kids" implies either "all
"Apostrophe." It's of Greek origin, so it's pronounced how it doesn't
look.
> Jason Anderson
Mr. Anderson, writing styles in Usenet are highly personal and typically
more conversational than formal. It's not the best netiquette to
criticize the grammar and spelling of another poster when they are quite
capable of getting their point across, unless you're teaching him a
lesson. Mr. TmanJRK, although not using his grade school grammar lessons
to the fullest extent, was communicating capably, in his posts to this
newsgroup. You obviously understood his message.
An Orwell you are not.
As for professional fencing: It seems to die aborning and full of
momentum. As a consequence, there is a corpse of a pro league heading
straight out the door and into the street where it finally stops and
bursts all over the pavement leaving everyone else with a mess to clean
up.
D. Kim
Dirk Goldgar
"Kitt Burch" <ki...@pagesz.net> wrote:
> [snip] If you allow one person to make sense then pretty
> soon they all want to make sense and where can you go from there.
Ah, that slippery slope!
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>
>
> Mr. Anderson, writing styles in Usenet are highly personal and typically
> more conversational than formal. It's not the best netiquette to
> criticize the grammar and spelling of another poster when they are quite
> capable of getting their point across, unless you're teaching him a
> lesson. Mr. TmanJRK, although not using his grade school grammar lessons
> to the fullest extent, was communicating capably, in his posts to this
> newsgroup.
TmanJRK are consistant with the level of grammar typical of publications
of the previous PFL. As TmanJRK is the (self?) appointed spokesman of
the WFF and saviour of American Olympic Fencing™ medal hopes, he had
better tighten up the language, lest he be prejudged by the media and
potential sponsors as a "yahoo".
> An Orwell you are not.
Yes, but I am not out in the public eye, either. I do not presume to
hold the future of American Olympic Fencing™ in my pocket. Thus, what I
say will not prejudge other's opinions toward fencers.
Besides, I got to write "You're an complete idiot, edew" without risking
a flame war :)
> As for professional fencing: It seems to die aborning and full of
> momentum. As a consequence, there is a corpse of a pro league heading
> straight out the door and into the street where it finally stops and
> bursts all over the pavement leaving everyone else with a mess to clean
> up.
How, um, poetic.
> D. Kim
Jason "Neither am I Hemingway" Anderson
Eric Dew
>
>As for professional fencing: It seems to die aborning and full of
>momentum. As a consequence, there is a corpse of a pro league heading
>straight out the door and into the street where it finally stops and
>bursts all over the pavement leaving everyone else with a mess to clean
>up.
The vividness of your description would make for a colorful, er, splash
of color on the uniform, no?
EDEW
Eric Dew
Jason Anderson <jander3@no_spam.mcgill.ca> wrote:
>
>Besides, I got to write "You're an complete idiot, edew" without risking
>a flame war :)
>
EDEW
TMalatino
When did American Olympic Fencing become a trademark name??
Please don't blast someone in a newsgroup for incorrect spelling or incorrect
grammar. It IS considered bad manners to do so since not everyone has access to
a spell check or grammar check on their software packages.
> he had
>better tighten up the language, lest he be prejudged by the media and
>potential sponsors as a "yahoo".
I have never heard any media consider someone a yahoo because he/she made
spelling/grammar errors.
John Twernbold
John
TMalatino
of the united states...then spelling might count.
TmanJRK
As far as the Pros goe we shall see.
TmanJRK
TmanJRK
LOL
TmanJRK
community is protective of their sport. For your information although i have
many typos, i hire a english teacher to proof our material elsewhere. And as
far as impressing sponsors weel we have Bank of America as one along with
others. Yes Alan has taken a back seat and is letting roger learn the trade. It
is working well he will be opening 2 more schools in 3-4 months with over 100
students. Sorry if this is tough for your eyes to read, but hey i got a
bachelor degree in marketing and we know that aint worth much. JK
TmanJRK
Paolo Damiani
>Yes, yes, and yes. Perhaps, however, you missed my point. The posts of
>TmanJRK are consistant with the level of grammar typical of publications
>of the previous PFL.
I think the point to be made is:
If one is writing to a newsgroup, things tend to get a bit sloppy as we usually
write in a reactive, conversational mode. One would hope to avoid this, but
mistakes are inevitable and forgivable.
However, if one is writing a press release for public consumption to sell a
product or an idea, it had better be as close to perfect as possible. This is
probably the only chance one gets to reach their audience. Apparently, this was
the case with materials from the PFL (I don't know myself, I didn't see them).
If the message is hampered by poor grammar and incorrect spelling, why would
someone spend any time on it when it is obvious that the author didn't? Poorly
written materials give the impression that the author is careless or even
worse, ignorant of the subject matter.
Paolo
Please God, don't let there be any spelling or grammar mistakes in this
post!!!! ;~)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
He is a man of splendid abilities but utterly corrupt. He shines and stinks
like rotten mackerel by moonlight.
Remove "antijunk" to e-mail
Glen Peting
variation of the word.
Glen
Eric Dew
TMalatino <tmal...@aol.com> wrote:
>>the WFF and saviour of American Olympic Fencing™ medal hopes, he had
>
>When did American Olympic Fencing become a trademark name??
>
>Please don't blast someone in a newsgroup for incorrect spelling or incorrect
>grammar. It IS considered bad manners to do so since not everyone has access to
>a spell check or grammar check on their software packages.
>
>> he had
>>better tighten up the language, lest he be prejudged by the media and
>>potential sponsors as a "yahoo".
>
>spelling/grammar errors.
>
grammatical and spelling errors, precisely because I'm willing to follow
the convention on not doing so (also if Hitler is ever mentioned, then
the thread is killfiled).
As for never hearing the media talk about yahoos who can't spell correctly,
well, that's precisely the bad outcome of misspellings: they just file
your press release in the trash can and no one will hear from them or you
again on the subject.
EDEW
Eric Dew
Paolo Damiani <dami...@aol.comantijunk> wrote:
>Paolo
^^^^^
I think you misspelled this. Shouldn't it be "Paul"?
>
>Please God, don't let there be any spelling or grammar mistakes in this
>post!!!! ;~)
>
EDEW
Paolo Damiani
>Paolo
> ^^^^^
>I think you misspelled this. Shouldn't it be "Paul"?
>>
>>Please God, don't let there be any spelling or grammar mistakes in this
>>post!!!! ;~)
>>
>
>EDEW
Paolo (or Paulo or Pablo or Paulus etc.)
D. Kim
Jason Anderson wrote:
>
> Yes, yes, and yes. Perhaps, however, you missed my point. The posts of
> TmanJRK are consistant with the level of grammar typical of publications
> of the previous PFL. As TmanJRK is the (self?) appointed spokesman of
> the WFF and saviour of American Olympic Fencing™ medal hopes, he had
> better tighten up the language, lest he be prejudged by the media and
> potential sponsors as a "yahoo".
>
I agree, mostly.
> Yes, but I am not out in the public eye, either. I do not presume to
> hold the future of American Olympic Fencing™ in my pocket. Thus, what I
> say will not prejudge other's opinions toward fencers.
>
> Besides, I got to write "You're an complete idiot, edew" without risking
> a flame war :)
>
Then why say these things in a public forum? Whenever I write anything
to usenet, I hope to change the opinions of others.
>
> How, um, poetic.
>
Not poetic, but fun to write. I just really wanted to use the phrase
"die aborning."
d. kim
D. Kim
institutions in existence.
Dirk Goldgar
djki...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Please. Fencing and the Internet are probably two of the most atheist
> institutions in existence.
What, haven't you heard the well-known maxim, "There are no atheists on
the fencing strip"?
Eric Dew
Dirk Goldgar <dgol...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>In article <3788428F...@bellsouth.net>,
> djki...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Please. Fencing and the Internet are probably two of the most atheist
>> institutions in existence.
>
>What, haven't you heard the well-known maxim, "There are no atheists on
>the fencing strip"?
>
fencer knelt down and did a quick prayer. Didn't help.
EDEW
Dirk Goldgar
ed...@netcom.com (Eric Dew) wrote:
> I once refereed (then, directed) at a collegiate tournament. The said
> fencer knelt down and did a quick prayer. Didn't help.
Although I imagine it is intended to be devout, asking God to help you
with your fencing has always struck me as a bit presumptuous.
Eric Dew
Dirk Goldgar <dgol...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>In article <7manui$7...@dfw-ixnews16.ix.netcom.com>,
> ed...@netcom.com (Eric Dew) wrote:
>> I once refereed (then, directed) at a collegiate tournament. The said
>> fencer knelt down and did a quick prayer. Didn't help.
>
>Although I imagine it is intended to be devout, asking God to help you
>with your fencing has always struck me as a bit presumptuous.
>
imagine some sort of expression of devoutness to me as the referee
would yield much better results. I'm multi-denominational, too: $5,
$10, $20, $50, $100, whatever.
(Just kidding folks, I'm not for sale when refereeing.)
EDEW
Nightfire
>
> In article <7manui$7...@dfw-ixnews16.ix.netcom.com>,
> ed...@netcom.com (Eric Dew) wrote:
> > I once refereed (then, directed) at a collegiate tournament. The said
> > fencer knelt down and did a quick prayer. Didn't help.
>
> Although I imagine it is intended to be devout, asking God to help you
> with your fencing has always struck me as a bit presumptuous.
>
> Dirk Goldgar
I don't know, Dirk. Some of the touches I've gotton HAD to have been
divinely influenced! And I'm not even a religious man!
Sam Signorelli
Remise
Although I imagine it is intended to be devout, asking God to help you
with your fencing has always struck me as a bit presumptuous.
====
I hope for the best, as did the American chaplain during our Revolution, when
he prayed to God before the troops went into battle, requesting that if He
didn't feel inclined to help the Americans win the field the next day, could He
at least please not help the British?
You never know!
Williams
Glen Peting wrote:
Sorry, my spelling ain't so good either - but NO!.
Sabregran (temporary ex-pat of England)
ben king
Ben.
>Please. Fencing and the Internet are probably two of the most atheist
>institutions in existence.
>
>TmanJRK wrote:
> >
> > Use God in the right context and his last name is not dammit.
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TmanJRK wrote:
> I have thank you for your concern
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Megan Dunn
England, and after having checked with Australian _and_ British dictionaries, I have
to say that potato-e isn't an English variation. Sorry, I know it's not important,
but I felt maligned... :)
Megan Dunn
Jigsaw head
> OK, I'm not 100% on this, but having grown up going to schools in Australia _and_
> England, and after having checked with Australian _and_ British dictionaries, I have
> to say that potato-e isn't an English variation. Sorry, I know it's not important,
> but I felt maligned... :)
>
> Megan Dunn
Entirely correct - to put an 'e' on the end of 'potato' is just plain
wrong. I speak as someone who has been to school in the UK for 13 yrs.
and has a newspaper editor as a father.
Ta ta for now
Rory
Glen Peting
dictionary the plural is oes. The alternative plural spelling is simply os, thought it is
no longer listed in the current editions. I stand corrected on the origin of the word.
After so many of you loyal subjects pointed out my error I researched the word which is
Spanish in origin and comes from the word batata. My apologies for maligning the Queen's
English.
Cheers
Glen Peting