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wjm

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Oct 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/25/00
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As to France Lames, I can say I used to love them, and now I detest them.
They break, at least every single one I ever bought after they were bought
out by the larger company. The older stuff from them is still around. My
teaching foil is still using a blade from them circa 1989?

Triplette I wish I could say better things about. I have never bought
an electric weapon from them, but I made the mistake of trusting the
quality of their blades enough to direct the tiny budget of my fencing
club towards. Within the year EVERY blade save one broke, with a nasty
sharp break to boot! and these blades were used by fencers of all levels,
not just beginners.

Since then, for every weapon, and electric and dry blades, I've bought
Dynamo (sp) blades whenever I could, and I'm not sure, but I don't think a
single blade has broken in the last year, other than that last triplette
blade, which didn't make it to a second year.

I don't own any personally (don't know why), but Allstar I've heard
nothing but good things about. Costs a lot more, often times, but I get
the feeling that cost it worth something. Also, haven't fenced with their
blades lately, but I used to LOVE Prieur. I know I adore everything else
of theirs I've ever used. I'd go with them (they have a new website too),
or Dynamo or Allstar. Like I said though, never used Allstar myself, so
perhaps one of the Allstar users out there could give a better thought
about them?

-Will Mego
Naperville Fencing Club
Glen Ellyn Fencing Club

Eli, Geminder wrote:

> I am an intermediate fencer planning to buy some new FIE electric
> foils. What brand of blade is best to go with? I've heard some bad
> things about Frances Lames lately though I've often heard that they
> are the best and so I'm very confused. Can anyone give me the low down
> on these new Vniti blades? How about Triplette, Allstar and Dinamo
> blades? Please help.
>
> - Eli Geminder


Matt Pearsall

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Oct 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/25/00
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For durability, I'll second wjm's vote for dinamo blades. My club buys them
and considering the abuse they take they've done very well. I have no idea
about their FIE blades, though. As for the Triplette blades, that's what I
personally use and they seem fine to me. Two years and still going strong.
Our club also has some that are entering their third year. Allstar and
Triplette blades are made by the same company (blaise-fererre) so I think are
generally the same.

Matt Pearsall
President, WWU Fencing Club


eli_geminder

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Oct 25, 2000, 9:43:30 PM10/25/00
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Dirk Goldgar

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Oct 26, 2000, 1:48:50 AM10/26/00
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I'm not happy with the Frances Lames foil blades I've bought in the last few
years. They've all broken long before I thought they should. Recently I
bought a Vniti FIE blade and I'm very happy with it. It's a little bit
tip-heavy for my taste, but aside from that it handles very well and has
held up excellently under a lot of hard use.

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dogbey

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Oct 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/26/00
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In article <39f78aea...@news.ix.netcom.com>,

Eli Geminder wrote:
> I am an intermediate fencer planning to buy some new FIE electric
> foils. What brand of blade is best to go with?

I'm a huge fan of the Leon Paul "budget" maraging blades - the ones
with the wierd nut thingy that screws on the blade by the guard.
They've got a great feel to them - flicky enough but not too whippy -
my friend's one gets abused two or three times a week (as only a messy
left-hander with a penchant for close distance fencing can abuse a
blade) for over a year and it's still fine. I've only had mine for a
few months, but so far so good.

Also a very good blade is the allstar (but not the blue one, which
seems to break quicker than the cheaper ones), but their tips are just
plain crap - after a few months the contact thingy comes loose and it
starts giving off-targets. They may have changed this - I haven't used
their tips for a while now.

Anyway, just my opinion.
daryl


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Graynor the Oso

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Oct 26, 2000, 2:12:12 PM10/26/00
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Also, haven't fenced with their
> blades lately, but I used to LOVE Prieur. I know I adore everything else
> of theirs I've ever used. I'd go with them (they have a new website too),
> or Dynamo or Allstar.

So what is the address for this Prieur website?


Regards,
David A. Sierra (Sabre Oso)
Sabre Team Captain
Fencing Institute of Texas
http://www.fenceintexas.org


wjm

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Oct 26, 2000, 10:50:45 PM10/26/00
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the URL for Prieur is http://www.vpi.orianne.com/Prieur/
I've always been very fond of their stuff, and their masks are wonderful.
Triplette is where I've usually bought them, but compare $179 from triplette
with $99 for the same mask direct from Prieur.

-Will Mego

David W. Neevel

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Oct 26, 2000, 11:45:21 PM10/26/00
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dogbey wrote:

> Also a very good blade is the allstar (but not the blue one, which
> seems to break quicker than the cheaper ones), but their tips are just
> plain crap - after a few months the contact thingy comes loose and it
> starts giving off-targets. They may have changed this - I haven't used
> their tips for a while now.

Are you sure that it wasn't French tips coming with your Allstar blades?
That problem sounds a lot more like Prieur tips than German tips. Just
because the blade is Allstar doesn't mean the vendor wired it with
Allstar electrics. Do the tips have an exposed white plastic insulator
and screws that thread directly into a pair of holes in the copper
collar, or a steel covered insulator and screws that thread into the
barrel and hold a lipped, steel collar with no holes in place? If it's
the white plastic tip, then it's Prieur and it's behaving exactly like
you'd expect.

-Dave Neevel

BTW, I don't know if you're referring to the non-maraging blue blades,
but the Blaise-Frere blue FIE blades that both Allstar and Uhlmann sell
are quite good for longevity. Allstar and Uhlmann don't make any of
their blades, but buy them from other manufacturers (Blaise, Priuer) and
stamp their badge on them.

Matt Pearsall

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Oct 27, 2000, 3:22:47 AM10/27/00
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wjm wrote:

> the URL for Prieur is http://www.vpi.orianne.com/Prieur/
> I've always been very fond of their stuff, and their masks are wonderful.
> Triplette is where I've usually bought them, but compare $179 from triplette
> with $99 for the same mask direct from Prieur.
>
> -Will Mego

So does anyone know about how much it costs to have Prieur ship say a mask to the
US if you order directly?

Thanks,

Matt Pearsall
fence...@yahoo.com

dogbey

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Oct 27, 2000, 6:56:45 AM10/27/00
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In article <39f8fa03$0$62633$726...@news.execpc.com>,
nee...@execpc.com wrote:
> dogbey wrote:
>
> > bad things about allstar tips

>
> Are you sure that it wasn't French tips coming with your Allstar
blades?
>
> -Dave Neevel
>
Your description is right, so I guess they were Prieur tips. They were
sold to me as allstar though (with the blade, as well as separate). I
think I'll be having a word with my old fencing shop when next I go
home.

Dominique Caovan

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Oct 27, 2000, 8:36:04 PM10/27/00
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I recently ordered from them and shipping costs were about $65. You'd have to wait
about 3-5 weeks for it to arrive too. I'd say it's not worth it unless you bought a
whole lot of stuff.

-D

Kian Ryan

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Oct 27, 2000, 8:53:06 PM10/27/00
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Can I recommend Leon Paul Flickmaster blades...

If you're wondering where to find them try
www.leonpaul.com

In my opinion, the flickmaster blades feel the nicest, work the nicest
and don't break that often dispite their reputation. Dispite their
name their are the one of the neatest blades I have used, the points
don't droop around all over the place and when you need it they
suddenly become increadibly flexible.

Kian

wjm

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Oct 27, 2000, 10:59:59 PM10/27/00
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Well, the weight probably has a lot to do with the cost, I'd imagine. If you don't need
it in a hurry, you could still end up saving a lot of money.

-Will Mego

Timothy P. McMackin

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Oct 30, 2000, 8:49:23 AM10/30/00
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How about for a non-flicky blade? I've been trying to pound tight point
control into my style for about a year now, and I want a blade that can
keep up with me instead of bending all over the place. However, the
style seems to be for whippy, flexible blades now. Of course, there
must always be flexibility in the blades, but where can I get an FIE
blade that isn't designed to flick?

It probably doesn't make a huge difference, but I don't flick, so I
don't think I want a blade that is designed for doing so.

Tim

> Can I recommend Leon Paul Flickmaster blades...

PAN CYAN

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Oct 30, 2000, 5:25:05 PM10/30/00
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the best all around buys seem to be the russian dinamo blades sold by most
fencing vendors. you can still buy some "hurricane damaged" F,S,Eblades from
phys chess or blade. the foil unwired are $8 i bought y sabers fpr $11

David W. Neevel

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Oct 30, 2000, 7:14:00 PM10/30/00
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Well, BF blades are always on the stiff side (you can still flick fine
with them-- that's more a question of technique), but we've had a couple
of reports here last week of some bad batches of BF blades having gotten
to market recently. Vniti blades are softer, but also fairly thick and
heavy and as such not very whippy (they are a good value for maraging
and very durable, to boot). I think Zivkovic is selling Prieur blades,
which might also give you what you're looking for.

-Dave Neevel

Sam & Sandra Signorelli

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Oct 31, 2000, 11:41:49 PM10/31/00
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In article <39fa22ce...@news.freenetname.co.uk>,
Dow...@Assassins-Guild.org.uk (Kian Ryan) wrote:

I've actually been considering ordering one of those to se if I like them.
I currently use teh LP Etoile blades...three regular and one FIE which I
don;t like a much...onthe other hand, it doesn't seem to get the stragne
twisting Im getting in the regular blades. it looks like someone just
torqued it alongthe length of the blade.

Sam Signorelli

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