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8's SURVEY RESULTS - NOV 21-22, 2009

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Jason Weddle

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:44:38 PM11/23/09
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Wilmington 8's Fans:

Below are the survey results from the Wilmington 8's on Nov 21-22,
2009.

Like i've said before, I am not a professional survey maker and am not
sure how many surveys
I should have or how I should have phrased the statements for the
survey, so, take it for what it is. We are very interested in getting
feedback from players, coaches and fans that attend our events. Thus
far, I would say that we have been very pleased with the response that
we have gotten with our 8 team events and observer techniques.

The players, coaches, observers and spectators were all asked to fill
out surveys.

COOL SURVEY FACT:
Statements 8-12 are all statements that were suggested by YOU the RSD
reader. Good questions and interesting results. Check it out!

101 Total Surveys. Each of the 8 teams are represented in these
numbers:

84 Players
7 Spectators
2 Coaches
8 Observers

We asked for a rating of 1-5 with 1 being strongly DISAGREE and 5
being strongly AGREE.

Statement 1:
Active stalling by the observers improves the quality of the game.
1- 3%
2- 7%
3- 15%
4- 30%
5- 45%

Statement 2:
Active up/down calls by the observers improves the quality of the
game.
1- 1%
2- 0%
3- 6%
4- 34%
5- 59%

Statement 3:
Having observers improved the over all quality of the game.
1- 1%
2- 0%
3- 9%
4- 32%
5- 58%

Statement 4:
Active travel calls by the observers improved the quality of the game
1- 3%
2- 9%
3- 9%
4- 17%
5- 62%

Statement 5:
Observers restarting play after a call reduced the amount of
violations and sped the game up thus improving the qualilty of the
game.
1- 4%
2- 9%
3- 15%
4- 27%
5- 45%

Statement 6:
Having 2 observers that are actively moving for best perspective is
enough observers for 1 game.
1- 1 %
2- 9%
3- 11%
4- 22%
5- 57%

Statement 7:
The observer hand signals were clear and easy to learn.
1- 0%
2- 1%
3- 18%
4- 34%
5- 47%

RSD Suggested Questions.........
1 being strongly DISAGREE and 5 being strongly AGREE.

Statement 8:
I chose to attend this tournament because all games were observed.

1- 26%
2- 9%
3- 28%
4- 18%
5- 19%

Statement 9:
I chose to attend this tournament because of the experimental rules.

1- 26%
2- 15%
3- 26%
4- 18%
5- 15%

Statement 10:
My experience has made me think more highly of officiated ultimate.

1- 1%
2- 3%
3- 9%
4- 46%
5- 41%

Statement 11:
I believe that observers duties for active calls should be increased
similar to this tournament.

1- 6%
2- 3%
3- 20%
4- 34%
5- 37%

Statement 12:
The use of whistles would create better communication between
officials, fans and players.

1- 16%
2- 9%
3- 27%
4- 24%
5- 24%

For the following 1 is very poor and 5 is very good.

Statement 13:
Rate observer appearance as a whole.
1- 0%
2- 1%
3- 6%
4- 39%
5- 54%

Statement 14:
Rate the professionalism of observers.
1- 0%
2- 0%
3- 0%
4- 29%
5- 71%

Statement 15:
Rate observers hustling for best perspective.
1- 0%
2- 0%
3- 9%
4- 38%
5- 53%

Statement 16:
Rate observer mechanics with signals.
1- 0%
2- 0%
3- 8%
4- 41%
5- 51%

If interested in attending an 8's event...
Contact - agerics20 (at) yahoo (dot) com

Spring Dates:

Feb 13-14
Feb 21-22
Mar 13-14

Thanks for reading,

Jason Weddle
Ultimate Observers Association

Reggie Fanelli

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:46:38 PM11/23/09
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----spooky....i posted asking for the results at the exact minute that
you posted the results jason...........
great minds.....
same wavelength.

Reggie Fanelli

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:51:03 PM11/23/09
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> Below are the survey results from the Wilmington 8's on Nov 21-22,
> 2009.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

---hi Jason,
i'm curious....can these results be presented as an average
rating?????
to be clear....add up the numbers and divide by 101...to get an
average of 4.83 for the question 'Active travel calls by the observers
improved the quality of the game'

some folks didn't fill out every answer, i noticed apon
glancing.....so you'd have to be careful with your division
number........huh?

MG

Reggie Fanelli

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:57:04 PM11/23/09
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> Below are the survey results from the Wilmington 8's on Nov 21-22,
> 2009.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--cool that questions 8 and 9 seem to suggest that a bunch of these
kids didn't even know that there were going to be observers
here........
and other results seem to show that they liked all the things that
they experienced!

Vero...@paradoxis.com

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:15:53 PM11/23/09
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Statement 8 : I chose to attend this tournament because all games were
observed.
Statement 9: I chose to attend this tournament because of the
experimental rules.

--cool that questions 8 and 9 seem to suggest that a bunch of these


> kids didn't even know that there were going to be observers
> here........

It could also suggest that they did know, and there were other factors
involved in why they chose to come.

cooler266

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:59:23 PM11/23/09
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I'm kind of curious, given the results of 8 and 9, as to why teams did
decide to attend. It didn't seem that observers (though they seemed to
improve the quality of the tournament) were a big draw. Was it due to
not many other tournaments happening this weekend? A coach or captain
deciding they should go? Perhaps he small format of the tournament,
where they know they are going to see each of the other 7 teams?

All in all, it sounded like a solid, cover-all-the-bases tournament.
Jason or Mike, did any observer training happen this weekend, to help
expand the pool for future tournaments?

-Cole

Reggie Fanelli

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:52:24 AM11/24/09
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> Jason or Mike, did any observer training happen this weekend, to help
> expand the pool for future tournaments?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

---i'm sorry...i don't understand the question?
the 'event' is called "the UOA 8s Tournament and Observer Training
Camp".....which implies observer training!!!
but yes...the pool of UOA observers did expand.
3 first timers worked the games this weekend....and we tweaked and
changed and made additions to our methods.
hopefully, each weekend will make the next, even better!

MG

Jason Weddle

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:42:02 AM11/24/09
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Reggie Fanelli

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:00:30 PM11/24/09
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> 8's
~~~~~~~~~~

---i like the data. we gotta have data!
we gotta host more tournaments....so that we can gather more data!!!

folks like the PRODUCT!

more better every time.
keep it rolling.

Jason Weddle

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Dec 1, 2009, 2:51:17 PM12/1/09
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Alright, Mike G asked that I give an average score from the survey
results instead of the percentages that I have been posting.
Personally I like the percentages better but Mike says that the
average is easier to understand and makes more sense. He also said
that with the percentages that I am only talking to the nerds out
there on RSD and that the normal folk don't really know the
percentages are. Let me know what you think.....

So below are the questions and the average score that we received. We
were scored on a rating system of 1 thru 5.

> The players, coaches, observers and spectators were all asked to fill
> out surveys.
>
> COOLSURVEYFACT:
> Statements 8-12 are all statements that were suggested by YOU the RSD

> reader.  Good questions and interestingresults.  Check it out!


>
> 101 Total Surveys.  Each of the 8 teams are represented in these
> numbers:
>
> 84 Players
> 7 Spectators
> 2 Coaches
> 8 Observers
>
> We asked for a rating of 1-5 with 1 being strongly DISAGREE and 5
> being strongly AGREE.
>
> Statement 1:
> Active stalling by the observers improves the quality of the game.

4.08

> Statement 2:
> Active up/down calls by the observers improves the quality of the
> game.

4.5

> Statement 3:
> Having observers improved the over all quality of the game.

4.47


> Statement 4:
> Active travel calls by the observers improved the quality of the game

4.27

> Statement 5:
> Observers restarting play after a call reduced the amount of
> violations and sped the game up thus improving the qualilty of the
> game.

4.01


> Statement 6:
> Having 2 observers that are actively moving for best perspective is
> enough observers for 1 game.

4.26

> Statement 7:
> The observer hand signals were clear and easy to learn.

4.28


> RSD Suggested Questions.........
> 1 being strongly DISAGREE and 5 being strongly AGREE.
>
> Statement 8:
> I chose to attend this tournament because all games were observed.

2.95


> Statement 9:
> I chose to attend this tournament because of the experimental rules.

2.81


> Statement 10:
> My experience has made me think more highly of officiated ultimate.

4.23


> Statement 11:
> I believe that observers duties for active calls should be increased
> similar to this tournament.

3.94


> Statement 12:
> The use of whistles would create better communication between
> officials, fans and players.

3.31


> For the following 1 is very poor and 5 is very good.
>
> Statement 13:
> Rate observer appearance as a whole.

4.47

> Statement 14:
> Rate the professionalism of observers.

4.71


> Statement 15:
> Rate observers hustling for best perspective.

4.45


> Statement 16:
> Rate observer mechanics with signals.

4.44

Jason Weddle

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Jan 13, 2010, 10:27:20 AM1/13/10
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On Dec 1 2009, 2:51 pm, Jason Weddle <jason_wed...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Alright, Mike G asked that I give an average score from the survey
> results instead of the percentages that I have been posting.
> Personally I like the percentages better but Mike says that the
> average is easier to understand and makes more sense.  He also said
> that with the percentages that I am only talking to the nerds out
> there on RSD and that the normal folk don't really know the
> percentages are.  Let me know what you think.....
>
> So below are the questions and the average score that we received.  We
> were scored on a rating system of 1 thru 5.
>
>
>
>
>
> > The players, coaches, observers and spectators were all asked to fill
> > outsurveys.
>
> > COOLSURVEYFACT:
> > Statements8-12 are all statements that were suggested by YOU the RSD

> > reader.  Good questions and interestingresults.  Check it out!
>
> > 101 TotalSurveys.  Each of the8teams are represented in these
> > Ultimate Observers Association- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Check out the 8's Survey results from Fall 09!

Thanks,
Jason
UOA Founder-co

ulticritic

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Jan 13, 2010, 11:27:46 AM1/13/10
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didnt you guys experiment a little with whistles? if so, how and when
exactly were they used? did you get any feedback of how people liked/
dislike its use?

Jason Weddle

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Jan 13, 2010, 11:59:50 AM1/13/10
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>
> didnt you guys experiment a little with whistles?  if so, how and when
> exactly were they used?  did you get any feedback of how people liked/
> dislike its use?- Hide quoted text -
>


-- We did use whistles in one game......... Duke vs ECU. I believe
that we will continue to experiment with them. I personally loved
it. I don't think Mike hasn't completely bought into it yet. There
was some feedback from a few of the players and it all seemed good.

We will have lots more info on this as the Spring Season progresses.

ulticritic

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Jan 13, 2010, 1:24:30 PM1/13/10
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how exactly were they used? i would think the best(most effective)
place to use them would be restarting play? did you use them in other
cases? obviously i'm a big fan of using whistles too, but i could see
how some people would want to keep their use somewhat limited due to
the close proximity of adjacent fields in most ALL ultimate comp.

Jason Weddle

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Jan 13, 2010, 2:25:57 PM1/13/10
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>
> how exactly were they used?  i would think the best(most effective)
> place to use them would be restarting play?  did you use them in other
> cases?  obviously i'm a big fan of using whistles too, but i could see
> how some people would want to keep their use somewhat limited due to
> the close proximity of adjacent fields in most ALL ultimate comp.

------------------------------------------------------------

-- i guess you'll have to ATTEND AND EVENT TO FIND OUT.

HA!

Naw, we used it when we thought we should use it.......... and then we
discussed on the field what we thought about it........ and have
further discussed when the we think the whistle should and shoudn't be
used.

We used it for fouls, travels, out of bounds, disc down, stall,
offsides, timeouts....

But we did NOT use the whistle to re-start play because we have that
sweet way to do it.

You know.......

If play is stopped both observers have open hand straight over head.
The trail observer says "defense set!" (telling not asking)...... if
the d is set the lead observer chops arm down ... and the trail
observer says 3-2-1 PLAY.......... stalling 1-2-3..... I don't see a
need for a whistle to re-start play.

Oh and we didn't think that the whistle would confuse the other fields
if every field had observers with whistles.

ulticritic

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Jan 13, 2010, 2:42:54 PM1/13/10
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On Jan 13, 2:25 pm, Jason Weddle <jason_wed...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > how exactly were they used?  i would think the best(most effective)
> > place to use them would be restarting play?  did you use them in other
> > cases?  obviously i'm a big fan of using whistles too, but i could see
> > how some people would want to keep their use somewhat limited due to
> > the close proximity of adjacent fields in most ALL ultimate comp.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> -- i guess you'll have to ATTEND AND EVENT TO FIND OUT.
>
> HA!

good one. still waitin for that ogden park showcased game under the
lights on the stadium field.
-------------------------------------------


>
> Naw, we used it when we thought we should use it.......... and then we
> discussed on the field what we thought about it........ and have
> further discussed when the we think the whistle should and shoudn't be
> used.
>
> We used it for fouls, travels, out of bounds, disc down, stall,
> offsides, timeouts....
>
> But we did NOT use the whistle to re-start play because we have that
> sweet way to do it.
>
> You know.......
>
> If play is stopped both observers have open hand straight over head.
> The trail observer says "defense set!" (telling not asking)...... if
> the d is set the lead observer chops arm down ... and the trail
> observer says 3-2-1 PLAY.......... stalling 1-2-3..... I don't see a
> need for a whistle to re-start play.

so you use it to signify play stops but not to signify when play
starts back up? thats kinda wierd. oh well, as long as they are used
somewhere.
------------------------------------------------------------

I don't see a
> need for a whistle to re-start play.

wouldnt it be the same as needing it to stop play? more hearable
maybe.......for players and fans? like for a fan that might be sky-
larking, then hears the sharp sound of a whistle, and its like,
alright people, were back in action.

------------------------------------------------------------


>
> Oh and we didn't think that the whistle would confuse the other fields
> if every field had observers with whistles.

me neither.....but that has been a critismsm of their potential use by
many people that are opposed to them. I herd whistles blowing all day
long on saturdays when living next to ogden park....and i'm sure the
football teams out there didnt get em confused.

Jason Weddle

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Jan 13, 2010, 2:57:04 PM1/13/10
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>
> me neither.....but that has been a critismsm of their potential use by
> many people that are opposed to them. I herd whistles blowing all day
> long on saturdays when living next to ogden park....and i'm sure the
> football teams out there didnt get em confused

--------------------------------------------

-- my guess is that all of the criticism is coming from folks that
haven't actually tried it or are opposed to observers in the first
place.

Jason Weddle

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Jan 13, 2010, 2:59:27 PM1/13/10
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> wouldnt it be the same as needing it to stop play?  more hearable
> maybe.......for players and fans?  like for a fan that might be sky-
> larking, then hears the sharp sound of a whistle, and its like,
> alright people, were back in action.
>

-----------------------------------------

-- okay, i'll try it out and let you know.

ulticritic

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Jan 13, 2010, 3:01:21 PM1/13/10
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On Jan 13, 2:57 pm, Jason Weddle <jason_wed...@yahoo.com> wrote:..

yea, theres probably some kind of anti sport (sz) conotation to it too

Reggie Fanelli

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Jan 13, 2010, 3:34:57 PM1/13/10
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Jason,
I love these stats!
thanks for....uhhm...8-ing them(similar to 'bumping')

UOA observer professionalism.....4.71 outta 5!!!!!!

Jason Weddle

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