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timmy
Apr 17, 2012, 6:40:03 PM4/17/12
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It was on today. Think there is a replay at 7pm on ESPN 2.
Timmy
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oherro
Apr 17, 2012, 6:55:03 PM4/17/12
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ulticritic
Apr 17, 2012, 7:31:00 PM4/17/12
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well, thats the reputation (as slackkers) that ultimate players must
live down.
and how about michelle beadle,mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm shes smokin......kinda
reminds me of my second wife
timmy
Apr 17, 2012, 7:55:03 PM4/17/12
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It's under the weird web stories.
Wyatt
Apr 17, 2012, 11:20:13 PM4/17/12
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sad to see all they can do is talk shit about the sport.
Oldandslow
Apr 18, 2012, 12:30:14 AM4/18/12
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"the herd is classic......"none of those guys got up before
noon". oh
well, thats the reputation (as slackkers) that ultimate
players must
live down. "
Wait, Toad, you've told us for the last 20 years that all we
noon". oh
well, thats the reputation (as slackkers) that ultimate
players must
live down. "
need are refs and dancing girls and ESPN will take us
seriously! And with Refs and dancing girls your hero Colin
(the braying jackass) Cowherd still makes fun of the sport?
What gives? Are you admitting to being wrong? Mighty big
of you.
Funny thing, ESPN treated the amazing (un reffed, dancing
girl free) Fleming/Sockeye catch with respect. It almost
seems like your window treatment doesn't affect how the
public sees us.
Reid K
Apr 18, 2012, 1:59:05 AM4/18/12
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It also just made sportscenters top plays. I'd imagine it will still
be there when they run the top ten on the AM shows. The anchors
actually credited Brodie for tweeting the play to them to use.
be there when they run the top ten on the AM shows. The anchors
actually credited Brodie for tweeting the play to them to use.
Ryan Delaney
Apr 18, 2012, 9:20:03 AM4/18/12
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This is more detrimental than helpful. Sad.
ulticritic
Apr 18, 2012, 9:20:12 AM4/18/12
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On Apr 18, 12:30 am, Oldandslow <ebil...@aol.com> wrote:
> "the herd is classic......"none of those guys got up before
> noon". oh
> well, thats the reputation (as slackkers) that ultimate
> players must
> live down. "
>
> Wait, Toad, you've told us for the last 20 years that all we
> need are refs and dancing girls and ESPN will take us
> seriously!
you'll have to quote me as saying exactly that. as i've always said
> "the herd is classic......"none of those guys got up before
> noon". oh
> well, thats the reputation (as slackkers) that ultimate
> players must
> live down. "
>
> Wait, Toad, you've told us for the last 20 years that all we
> need are refs and dancing girls and ESPN will take us
> seriously!
that ultimate has a deep yawning casm to dig itself out of prior to
getting to the point at which "normal folk" will accept it and not
mock it. now as far as getting the worm to turn i have said that
conforming to the sports norms that exist (with refs and dancin girls)
will be the proper rout to take but i never said that the poor
reputation that ultimate has developed for itself over the last 40
years would be immediately mended overnight.
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And with Refs and dancing girls your hero Colin
> (the braying jackass) Cowherd still makes fun of the sport?
yet the espn network covets him as one of their top guys just means
that you dont get how the normal sports world works.
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> What gives?
what do you mean, "what gives?" ? what gives is exactly what i said
gives.....oh
well, thats the reputation (as slackkers) that ultimate
players must
live down. "
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players must
live down. "
> Are you admitting to being wrong?
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Mighty big
> of you.
to be right? i know
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>
> Funny thing, ESPN treated the amazing (un reffed, dancing
> girl free) Fleming/Sockeye catch with respect.
i dont think they had any idea that that particular clip was from an
> Funny thing, ESPN treated the amazing (un reffed, dancing
> girl free) Fleming/Sockeye catch with respect.
unreffed version......just like i doubt they knew the brodie catch was
from a reffed one. they dont keep up with ultimate. and if they knew
of ultimates silly anti ref jesus complex theyde probably laugh it out
of the room
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It almost
> seems like your window treatment doesn't affect how the
> public sees us.
a huge difference. you seem to be the type that would rather stay in
denial about this aspect though. its called being cognativly
disonant
>
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Tooth
Apr 18, 2012, 9:23:13 AM4/18/12
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#6 on SC top plays this morning, very cool.
Reggie Fanelli
Apr 18, 2012, 9:33:42 AM4/18/12
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> Wait, Toad, you've told us for the last 20 years that all we
> need are refs and dancing girls and ESPN will take us
> seriously! And with Refs and dancing girls your hero Colin
> (the braying jackass) Cowherd still makes fun of the sport?
> What gives? Are you admitting to being wrong? Mighty big
> of you.
>
> Funny thing, ESPN treated the amazing (un reffed, dancing
> girl free) Fleming/Sockeye catch with respect. It almost
> seems like your window treatment doesn't affect how the
> public sees us.
--at least they're learning more about the sport to be able to make
fun of it CORRECTLY.....
dan nonjax
Apr 18, 2012, 9:40:04 AM4/18/12
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Is there a link to that anywhere?
Phil
Apr 18, 2012, 9:50:03 AM4/18/12
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thefan
Apr 18, 2012, 9:55:03 AM4/18/12
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the link is in post #2 at the top of the thread. it is
preceded by the words "Here's the link" a colon and two
spaces. a few posts down someone notes that it is found in
"weird web stories" also the description of the video
includes the word "frisbee".
preceded by the words "Here's the link" a colon and two
spaces. a few posts down someone notes that it is found in
"weird web stories" also the description of the video
includes the word "frisbee".
dan nonjax
Apr 18, 2012, 10:00:04 AM4/18/12
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thefan wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 06:51
wanted the top plays link, which Phil was kind enough to
supply.
Thanks phil.
> the link is in post #2 at the top of the thread. it is
> preceded by the words "Here's the link" a colon and two
> spaces. a few posts down someone notes that it is found
> in "weird web stories" also the description of the video
> includes the word "frisbee".
Actually, that is a link to the wierd web story video. I
> preceded by the words "Here's the link" a colon and two
> spaces. a few posts down someone notes that it is found
> in "weird web stories" also the description of the video
> includes the word "frisbee".
wanted the top plays link, which Phil was kind enough to
supply.
Thanks phil.
J
Apr 18, 2012, 10:08:43 AM4/18/12
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Anchor 1: We're told that this is from the first ever professional ultimate frisbee game. Brodie Smith with the hail mary catch to send the game into overtime. Brodie Smith's Indianapolis AlleyCats lost to the Columbus Cranes.
Anchor 2: Cool names, by the way.
J
Apr 18, 2012, 10:11:34 AM4/18/12
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pacemaker
Apr 18, 2012, 10:20:12 AM4/18/12
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Nice work Brodie!
Getting a Top 10 play on a night with MLB, NBA, and Playoff
Hockey (my favorite) is impressive. Unsung hero: the
thrower. The defense could have done a better job with a
mark, but the throw was perfect. The timing of the run and
jump was outstanding.
Who owns that end zone view? Is that Brodie's camera or was
there an AUDL camera which they did not use during the
game?
On the other hand, my 8th grade daughter asked "Isn't that
the guy with the funny instructional videos?"
Well..not really...that was the Beef Tips guy making Top 10
material himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJLCcRSVOII
http://youtu.be/x5hhNYhJpLw
pacemaker
Getting a Top 10 play on a night with MLB, NBA, and Playoff
Hockey (my favorite) is impressive. Unsung hero: the
thrower. The defense could have done a better job with a
mark, but the throw was perfect. The timing of the run and
jump was outstanding.
Who owns that end zone view? Is that Brodie's camera or was
there an AUDL camera which they did not use during the
game?
On the other hand, my 8th grade daughter asked "Isn't that
the guy with the funny instructional videos?"
Well..not really...that was the Beef Tips guy making Top 10
material himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJLCcRSVOII
http://youtu.be/x5hhNYhJpLw
pacemaker
pacemaker
Apr 18, 2012, 10:25:04 AM4/18/12
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I think the long time anchors on the show understand sports
and athletes. ESPN , when it started, was felt to be a
joke, and at times it was. Some of the newer anchors make
fun of different sports without the underlying love of
athletes of all types that the earlier anchors have.
Heckling from a position of respect is better than heckling
from a place of ignorance and it comes across better.
pacemaker
and athletes. ESPN , when it started, was felt to be a
joke, and at times it was. Some of the newer anchors make
fun of different sports without the underlying love of
athletes of all types that the earlier anchors have.
Heckling from a position of respect is better than heckling
from a place of ignorance and it comes across better.
pacemaker
ulticritic
Apr 18, 2012, 10:42:47 AM4/18/12
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a point of when that "fleming catch clip" was gettin air time, is
that NOW its just not some random tournament in which this is
happening.......its actually an organized league thats being presented
in a modern fashion. so now when some hot shot tv executive inquires
about that specific clip there is a whole league with regularly
scheduled games that are presnted in a way thats condusive to harbor
sponsorship and backing from legit busniessmen to back it up.
this is somthing ive been saying for years.......that one day a window
of opportunity is gonna open up for this sport and when it does there
needs to be an organized league thats already in place that ALREADY
CONFORMS to the current sports entertainment model. i'll assume that
there will be more great catches and throws coming from audl games
this season and every time they get air play via espn it will just
further legitimize the sport AND THE AUDL. and it will snowball and
thats when the "slacker (sleeping in til noon)" stereotypes will
disolve and the sport being "taken seriously" will snowball.
BJ
Apr 18, 2012, 11:45:04 AM4/18/12
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ulticritic wrote on Tue, 17 April 2012 19:31
> and how about michelle beadle,mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm shes
> smokin......kinda
> reminds me of my second wife
Bc she hung out with a douche all day?
> smokin......kinda
> reminds me of my second wife
ulticritic
Apr 18, 2012, 11:54:14 AM4/18/12
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On Apr 18, 11:45 am, BJ <ut.bj...@gmail.com> wrote:..
he's the man!
> ulticritic wrote on Tue, 17 April 2012 19:31
>
> > and how about michelle beadle,mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm shes
> > smokin......kinda
> > reminds me of my second wife
>
> Bc she hung out with a douche all day?
you think the herds a douche too? why do people hate on him so bad?
>
> > and how about michelle beadle,mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm shes
> > smokin......kinda
> > reminds me of my second wife
>
> Bc she hung out with a douche all day?
he's the man!
nealon
Apr 18, 2012, 2:05:04 PM4/18/12
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ulticritic wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 10:54
--
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7M7d8u40I4
> you think the herds a douche too? why do people hate on
> him so bad?
> he's the man!
this explains a lot.
> him so bad?
> he's the man!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7M7d8u40I4
Bulb
Apr 18, 2012, 3:45:03 PM4/18/12
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korians1 wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 14:01
just another boulder in a mountain of evidence.
I had no idea who the Herd was until Toad's post today.
Watched this segment, and yup, he's a douche. Do some
research, guy.
> ulticritic wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 10:54
> > you think the herds a douche too? why do people
> > hate on him so bad?
> > he's the man!
>
> this explains a lot.
"Explains" implies that anything needed explaining. This is
> > you think the herds a douche too? why do people
> > hate on him so bad?
> > he's the man!
>
> this explains a lot.
just another boulder in a mountain of evidence.
I had no idea who the Herd was until Toad's post today.
Watched this segment, and yup, he's a douche. Do some
research, guy.
ulticritic
Apr 18, 2012, 3:48:34 PM4/18/12
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On Apr 18, 2:05 pm, nealon <bigbananaspe...@yahoo.com> wrote:.
colin cowherd is good?
> ulticritic wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 10:54
>
> > you think the herds a douche too? why do people hate on
> > him so bad?
> > he's the man!
>
> this explains a lot.
what does it explain? that espn executives agree with me and think
>
> > you think the herds a douche too? why do people hate on
> > him so bad?
> > he's the man!
>
> this explains a lot.
colin cowherd is good?
thefan
Apr 18, 2012, 4:05:04 PM4/18/12
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are people really that anti establishment? that cowherd guy
is not my favorite sports personality, but he's popular
enough that the execs at the de facto sports leader gave him
his own TV and radio spot. so now that ultimate is there,
and it's there because of something Toad likes, this thread
has devolved into "cowherd is a douche."?
part of what toad said is right? there have been plays in
ultimate since the beginning of time worthy of this sort of
media, but the sport didn't have the respect to get there.
and when it did get there, anyone asking when it happened,
where it happened and when it might happen again was
probably met with a shrug or "some tournament somewhere"
now, down play the league all you want, but those questions
can be answered in a format that sports talk personalities,
fans and, yes, potential sponsors can relate to.
is not my favorite sports personality, but he's popular
enough that the execs at the de facto sports leader gave him
his own TV and radio spot. so now that ultimate is there,
and it's there because of something Toad likes, this thread
has devolved into "cowherd is a douche."?
part of what toad said is right? there have been plays in
ultimate since the beginning of time worthy of this sort of
media, but the sport didn't have the respect to get there.
and when it did get there, anyone asking when it happened,
where it happened and when it might happen again was
probably met with a shrug or "some tournament somewhere"
now, down play the league all you want, but those questions
can be answered in a format that sports talk personalities,
fans and, yes, potential sponsors can relate to.
ulticritic
Apr 18, 2012, 3:55:43 PM4/18/12
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On Apr 18, 3:45 pm, Bulb <kevin.patrick.mccorm...@gmail.com> wrote:.
> korians1 wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 14:01
>
> > ulticritic wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 10:54
> > > you think the herds a douche too? why do people
> > > hate on him so bad?
> > > he's the man!
>
> > this explains a lot.
>
> "Explains" implies that anything needed explaining. This is
> just another boulder in a mountain of evidence.
evidence of what......that i see eye to eye with all the higher ups at
espn? couldnt agree more
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that you are/were totally ignorant of who colin cowherd is. you dont
seem to know much about sports in general.
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why are his ratings so high?
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Do some
> research, guy.
about what? what the herds rating are? the fact that hes has two
shows on espn? and why is it you consider him a douche? because he
talked shit about the "frisbee guy" stereotype? i guess this is what
they mean when they say "the truth hurts".
> korians1 wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 14:01
>
> > ulticritic wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 10:54
> > > you think the herds a douche too? why do people
> > > hate on him so bad?
> > > he's the man!
>
> > this explains a lot.
>
> "Explains" implies that anything needed explaining. This is
> just another boulder in a mountain of evidence.
espn? couldnt agree more
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>
> I had no idea who the Herd was until Toad's post today.
now THAT is what explains alot. of course some how i'm not surprised
> I had no idea who the Herd was until Toad's post today.
that you are/were totally ignorant of who colin cowherd is. you dont
seem to know much about sports in general.
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> Watched this segment, and yup, he's a douche.
why? because he tells it like it is? and if he's such a douch then
why are his ratings so high?
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Do some
> research, guy.
about what? what the herds rating are? the fact that hes has two
shows on espn? and why is it you consider him a douche? because he
talked shit about the "frisbee guy" stereotype? i guess this is what
they mean when they say "the truth hurts".
jt
Apr 18, 2012, 4:26:23 PM4/18/12
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On Apr 18, 3:45 pm, Bulb <kevin.patrick.mccorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> korians1 wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 14:01
> I had no idea who the Herd was until Toad's post today.
> Watched this segment, and yup, he's a douche. Do some
> research, guy.
Obviously you don't watch much espn, espn2 etc. or you would have
> Watched this segment, and yup, he's a douche. Do some
> research, guy.
heard of the herd or Colin. He has been on this network for years.
And if you had seen him before, you would not call him shit. You are
obviously calling someone a name "without doing any research" having
never heard of him before.
Just fucking stupid comment.
JT
mgd.mitch
Apr 18, 2012, 4:40:03 PM4/18/12
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thefan wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 16:02
a douche" independent of anything to do with ultimate or
toad or the AUDL? That seems pretty simple. Cowherd
mentioning ultimate isn't independent of the AUDL, but
people's opinion of cowherd can come from all sorts of
stuff.
There are plenty of people out there that have radio spots
that aren't nice people. Just about anything political
comes to mind.
> but he's popular enough that the execs at the de facto
> sports leader gave him his own TV and radio spot. so now
> that ultimate is there, and it's there because of
> something Toad likes, this thread has devolved into
> "cowherd is a douche."?
i don't see this logic. Why can't someone think "cowherd is
> sports leader gave him his own TV and radio spot. so now
> that ultimate is there, and it's there because of
> something Toad likes, this thread has devolved into
> "cowherd is a douche."?
a douche" independent of anything to do with ultimate or
toad or the AUDL? That seems pretty simple. Cowherd
mentioning ultimate isn't independent of the AUDL, but
people's opinion of cowherd can come from all sorts of
stuff.
There are plenty of people out there that have radio spots
that aren't nice people. Just about anything political
comes to mind.
BJ
Apr 18, 2012, 4:40:05 PM4/18/12
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I have watched. I have paid attention. I submit that he is a
Douche Lord.
I am completely comfortable with using "Cowherd is great!"
as a filter for people I don't like.
http://deadspin.com/5885390/kate-upton-hangs-up-on-colin-cowherd-after-he-asks-what-shes-wearing-how-much-she-gets-paid
http://deadspin.com/5681694/colin-cowherds-asinine-john-wall-rant-with-video-accompaniment
Douche Lord.
I am completely comfortable with using "Cowherd is great!"
as a filter for people I don't like.
http://deadspin.com/5885390/kate-upton-hangs-up-on-colin-cowherd-after-he-asks-what-shes-wearing-how-much-she-gets-paid
http://deadspin.com/5681694/colin-cowherds-asinine-john-wall-rant-with-video-accompaniment
ulticritic
Apr 18, 2012, 4:41:57 PM4/18/12
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research"
you exposed youeself bulbus, as the sports idiot you are
Ryan Delaney
Apr 18, 2012, 4:50:04 PM4/18/12
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I never knew who he was until today, and my perception of
him, from today, is that he's a douche.
Not a single mention of anything happening in the play. Just
mocking. Pretty douchey.
him, from today, is that he's a douche.
Not a single mention of anything happening in the play. Just
mocking. Pretty douchey.
ulticritic
Apr 18, 2012, 4:53:59 PM4/18/12
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On Apr 18, 4:40 pm, mgd.mitch <mgd.mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> thefan wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 16:02> but he's popular enough that the execs at the de facto
> > sports leader gave him his own TV and radio spot. so now
> > that ultimate is there, and it's there because of
> > something Toad likes, this thread has devolved into
> > "cowherd is a douche."?
>
> i don't see this logic.
you dont seem to see any logic
> thefan wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 16:02> but he's popular enough that the execs at the de facto
> > sports leader gave him his own TV and radio spot. so now
> > that ultimate is there, and it's there because of
> > something Toad likes, this thread has devolved into
> > "cowherd is a douche."?
>
> i don't see this logic.
--------------------------------------------
Why can't someone think "cowherd is
> a douche" independent of anything to do with ultimate or
> toad or the AUDL?
----------------------------------------
That seems pretty simple. Cowherd
> mentioning ultimate isn't independent of the AUDL, but
> people's opinion of cowherd can come from all sorts of
> stuff.
----------------------------------
>
> There are plenty of people out there that have radio spots
> that aren't nice people. Just about anything political
> comes to mind.
colin isnt not a nice guy in the least......he's not overly harsh
> There are plenty of people out there that have radio spots
> that aren't nice people. Just about anything political
> comes to mind.
either. he is critical at times but thatyall those things he said
about ultimate and "frisbee guy" were pretty damn comical to me.
anybody that was offended by what he said needs to lighten up and
accept the reality of how "normal folk" perciece ultimate frisbee. i
mean, how can you be that shocked that someone in the sports
profession would mock ultimate in such a way?
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com
ulticritic
Apr 18, 2012, 5:07:55 PM4/18/12
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On Apr 18, 4:40 pm, BJ <ut.bj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have watched. I have paid attention. I submit that he is a
> Douche Lord.
you just cant relate
> I have watched. I have paid attention. I submit that he is a
> Douche Lord.
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>
> I am completely comfortable with using "Cowherd is great!"
> as a filter for people I don't like.
>
> http://deadspin.com/5885390/kate-upton-hangs-up-on-colin-cowherd-afte...
> I am completely comfortable with using "Cowherd is great!"
> as a filter for people I don't like.
>
and what was so bad about his interview, or explination of his
interview, with her? think about it, he's in the sports
profession......so what can be asked of some chick thats just eye
candy?
--------------------------------------------------
>
> http://deadspin.com/5681694/colin-cowherds-asinine-john-wall-rant-wit...
i though his assestment of this wall character was dead on. i mean,
are you really the kind of person that is ok with that "doin the
dougie" for 34 seconds while being announced before a game starts?
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com
ulticritic
Apr 18, 2012, 4:23:28 PM4/18/12
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On Apr 18, 4:05 pm, thefan <jimmyholtz...@yahoo.com> wrote:.
> are people really that anti establishment? that cowherd guy
> is not my favorite sports personality,
who is?
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but he's popular
> enough that the execs at the de facto sports leader gave him
> his own TV and radio spot. so now that ultimate is there,
> and it's there because of something Toad likes, this thread
> has devolved into "cowherd is a douche."?
its almost as if anything i support haters like bublus, bobo and mitch
the prick will automatically denounce
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its just the way shit works.
>
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com
> are people really that anti establishment? that cowherd guy
> is not my favorite sports personality,
-----------------------------------
but he's popular
> enough that the execs at the de facto sports leader gave him
> his own TV and radio spot. so now that ultimate is there,
> and it's there because of something Toad likes, this thread
> has devolved into "cowherd is a douche."?
the prick will automatically denounce
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>
> part of what toad said is right? there have been plays in
> ultimate since the beginning of time worthy of this sort of
> media, but the sport didn't have the respect to get there.
> and when it did get there, anyone asking when it happened,
> where it happened and when it might happen again was
> probably met with a shrug or "some tournament somewhere"
bingo
> part of what toad said is right? there have been plays in
> ultimate since the beginning of time worthy of this sort of
> media, but the sport didn't have the respect to get there.
> and when it did get there, anyone asking when it happened,
> where it happened and when it might happen again was
> probably met with a shrug or "some tournament somewhere"
-------------------------------------
>
> now, down play the league all you want, but those questions
> can be answered in a format that sports talk personalities,
> fans and, yes, potential sponsors can relate to.
which, to me, has been as obvious as the nose on your face all along.
> now, down play the league all you want, but those questions
> can be answered in a format that sports talk personalities,
> fans and, yes, potential sponsors can relate to.
its just the way shit works.
>
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com
Oldandslow
Apr 18, 2012, 6:50:04 PM4/18/12
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For those who are unaware of the bloviating jackass Colin
Cowherd, here's Deadspin's take on one of his rants (Link to
page is in BJ's post above):
"On Tuesday, John Wall played his first home game as a
Washington Wizard. During his introduction, he came out to
"Teach Me How To Dougie" and performed the accompanying
dance. Colin Cowherd was less than thrilled because Colin
Cowherd is an asshole.
Sitting atop the highest of high horses, Cowherd lambasted
Wall for his performance and springboarded into the rantiest
of rants about how the dance was all the evidence he needed
to show John Wall would never win an NBA title. Have a
listen. It is basically three minutes of a man trying very
hard not to say the n-word.
Wall's line for the night against the 76ers was a ridiculous
29 and 13 with nine steals, but he did commit eight
turnovers--which is what happens when you're a player who
takes chances and you're playing for the Wizards. That's a
great game! Meanwhile, against the Pistons, Rajon Rondo put
up 17 assists with four steals and no turnovers (playing
with Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Kevin Garnett). That's also
a great game! But Wall, Cowherd thinks, is out of control,
as evidenced by those turnovers and all that dancing, which
on planet Earth aren't actually related.. Even more absurd,
Cowherd uses the dancing as proof that Wall isn't "a sharp
guy":
"Point guard is like the quarterback. It's an
IQ-judgment position. The great ones are not about
themselves. They're about the others. Leadership is IQ, it's
not skills. "
So, since he dances, John Wall is not a leader and is also
stupid. Check.
The whole rant is worth a listen for its inanity. Pay
special attention to Cowherd's mindbending comparison of the
dance to planning a bank robbery.
Colin Cowherd: fuck off."
Toad, it makes perfect sense that you idolize this guy.
You're not just a sycophant, you're cut from the same mold
but even more annoying. You make the same senseless
comparisons and the same wrong conclusions (e.g. "leadership
is IQ. " Leadership is not IQ. IQ helps with leadership
but most high IQ people are not leaders, they don't have the
people skills. )
Cowherd was an arrogant ass as a local TV sports announcer
and he was an ass on the local sports radio station where
they still make fun of his total lack of work ethic.
Having Cowherd talk about ultimate is fine, anybody with a
brain who listens to him knows he doesn't know much about
anything and even less about anything that isn't mainstream.
Cowherd, here's Deadspin's take on one of his rants (Link to
page is in BJ's post above):
"On Tuesday, John Wall played his first home game as a
Washington Wizard. During his introduction, he came out to
"Teach Me How To Dougie" and performed the accompanying
dance. Colin Cowherd was less than thrilled because Colin
Cowherd is an asshole.
Sitting atop the highest of high horses, Cowherd lambasted
Wall for his performance and springboarded into the rantiest
of rants about how the dance was all the evidence he needed
to show John Wall would never win an NBA title. Have a
listen. It is basically three minutes of a man trying very
hard not to say the n-word.
Wall's line for the night against the 76ers was a ridiculous
29 and 13 with nine steals, but he did commit eight
turnovers--which is what happens when you're a player who
takes chances and you're playing for the Wizards. That's a
great game! Meanwhile, against the Pistons, Rajon Rondo put
up 17 assists with four steals and no turnovers (playing
with Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Kevin Garnett). That's also
a great game! But Wall, Cowherd thinks, is out of control,
as evidenced by those turnovers and all that dancing, which
on planet Earth aren't actually related.. Even more absurd,
Cowherd uses the dancing as proof that Wall isn't "a sharp
guy":
"Point guard is like the quarterback. It's an
IQ-judgment position. The great ones are not about
themselves. They're about the others. Leadership is IQ, it's
not skills. "
So, since he dances, John Wall is not a leader and is also
stupid. Check.
The whole rant is worth a listen for its inanity. Pay
special attention to Cowherd's mindbending comparison of the
dance to planning a bank robbery.
Colin Cowherd: fuck off."
Toad, it makes perfect sense that you idolize this guy.
You're not just a sycophant, you're cut from the same mold
but even more annoying. You make the same senseless
comparisons and the same wrong conclusions (e.g. "leadership
is IQ. " Leadership is not IQ. IQ helps with leadership
but most high IQ people are not leaders, they don't have the
people skills. )
Cowherd was an arrogant ass as a local TV sports announcer
and he was an ass on the local sports radio station where
they still make fun of his total lack of work ethic.
Having Cowherd talk about ultimate is fine, anybody with a
brain who listens to him knows he doesn't know much about
anything and even less about anything that isn't mainstream.
ulticritic
Apr 18, 2012, 8:17:49 PM4/18/12
to
On Apr 18, 6:50 pm, Oldandslow <ebil...@aol.com> wrote:.
> For those who are unaware of the bloviating jackass Colin
> Cowherd, here's Deadspin's take on one of his rants (Link to
> page is in BJ's post above):
i cant, for the life of me, figure our why this deadspin sight is so
anti the herd
----------------------------------------------------
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referenced plenty of other blacks that would NEVER act in such a way
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would assume that the majority of ultimate players will aggree with
the herd
-------------------------------------
>
> Colin Cowherd: fuck off."
now thats a rant
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tv so...................
-----------------------------------------------
You make the same senseless
> comparisons and the same wrong conclusions (e.g. "leadership
> is IQ. " Leadership is not IQ. IQ helps with leadership
> but most high IQ people are not leaders, they don't have the
> people skills. )
again, thank you. i guess listening to him every day rubs off on me
--------------------------------------------
succesful?
--------------------------------------------
most in which there is (or at least was) a very significant amount of
pot smoking going on with it. is that somthing you are willing to
contest?
>
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com
> For those who are unaware of the bloviating jackass Colin
> Cowherd, here's Deadspin's take on one of his rants (Link to
> page is in BJ's post above):
anti the herd
----------------------------------------------------
>
> "On Tuesday, John Wall played his first home game as a
> Washington Wizard. During his introduction, he came out to
> "Teach Me How To Dougie" and performed the accompanying
> dance. Colin Cowherd was less than thrilled because Colin
> Cowherd is an asshole.
are you saying that you like that style of flamboyant self promotion?
> "On Tuesday, John Wall played his first home game as a
> Washington Wizard. During his introduction, he came out to
> "Teach Me How To Dougie" and performed the accompanying
> dance. Colin Cowherd was less than thrilled because Colin
> Cowherd is an asshole.
----------------------------------------------------
>
> Sitting atop the highest of high horses, Cowherd lambasted
> Wall for his performance and springboarded into the rantiest
> of rants about how the dance was all the evidence he needed
> to show John Wall would never win an NBA title. Have a
> listen. It is basically three minutes of a man trying very
> hard not to say the n-word.
please honkey......he never came close to using the n-word......and
> Sitting atop the highest of high horses, Cowherd lambasted
> Wall for his performance and springboarded into the rantiest
> of rants about how the dance was all the evidence he needed
> to show John Wall would never win an NBA title. Have a
> listen. It is basically three minutes of a man trying very
> hard not to say the n-word.
referenced plenty of other blacks that would NEVER act in such a way
---------------------------------------------
>
> Wall's line for the night against the 76ers was a ridiculous
> 29 and 13 with nine steals, but he did commit eight
> turnovers--which is what happens when you're a player who
> takes chances and you're playing for the Wizards. That's a
> great game! Meanwhile, against the Pistons, Rajon Rondo put
> up 17 assists with four steals and no turnovers (playing
> with Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Kevin Garnett). That's also
> a great game! But Wall, Cowherd thinks, is out of control,
> as evidenced by those turnovers and all that dancing, which
> on planet Earth aren't actually related.. Even more absurd,
> Cowherd uses the dancing as proof that Wall isn't "a sharp
> guy":
i think he based that on an interview he did with him
> Wall's line for the night against the 76ers was a ridiculous
> 29 and 13 with nine steals, but he did commit eight
> turnovers--which is what happens when you're a player who
> takes chances and you're playing for the Wizards. That's a
> great game! Meanwhile, against the Pistons, Rajon Rondo put
> up 17 assists with four steals and no turnovers (playing
> with Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Kevin Garnett). That's also
> a great game! But Wall, Cowherd thinks, is out of control,
> as evidenced by those turnovers and all that dancing, which
> on planet Earth aren't actually related.. Even more absurd,
> Cowherd uses the dancing as proof that Wall isn't "a sharp
> guy":
---------------------------------------------
>
> "Point guard is like the quarterback. It's an
> IQ-judgment position. The great ones are not about
> themselves. They're about the others. Leadership is IQ, it's
> not skills. "
sounds like a fair critisism to me
> "Point guard is like the quarterback. It's an
> IQ-judgment position. The great ones are not about
> themselves. They're about the others. Leadership is IQ, it's
> not skills. "
---------------------------------------
>
> So, since he dances, John Wall is not a leader and is also
> stupid. Check.
>
> The whole rant is worth a listen for its inanity. Pay
> special attention to Cowherd's mindbending comparison of the
> dance to planning a bank robbery.
YES, do listen to the rant......which is hardly a rant......and i
> So, since he dances, John Wall is not a leader and is also
> stupid. Check.
>
> The whole rant is worth a listen for its inanity. Pay
> special attention to Cowherd's mindbending comparison of the
> dance to planning a bank robbery.
would assume that the majority of ultimate players will aggree with
the herd
-------------------------------------
>
> Colin Cowherd: fuck off."
now thats a rant
--------------------------------
>
> Toad, it makes perfect sense that you idolize this guy.
i'll take that as a complement
> Toad, it makes perfect sense that you idolize this guy.
----------------------------------------
> You're not just a sycophant, you're cut from the same mold
> but even more annoying.
well, i do this as a hobby on the internet and he get paid and is on
> but even more annoying.
tv so...................
-----------------------------------------------
You make the same senseless
> comparisons and the same wrong conclusions (e.g. "leadership
> is IQ. " Leadership is not IQ. IQ helps with leadership
> but most high IQ people are not leaders, they don't have the
> people skills. )
--------------------------------------------
>
> Cowherd was an arrogant ass as a local TV sports announcer
> and he was an ass on the local sports radio station where
> they still make fun of his total lack of work ethic.
"they" who? people with much crappyer jobs that are much less
> Cowherd was an arrogant ass as a local TV sports announcer
> and he was an ass on the local sports radio station where
> they still make fun of his total lack of work ethic.
succesful?
--------------------------------------------
>
> Having Cowherd talk about ultimate is fine, anybody with a
> brain who listens to him knows he doesn't know much about
> anything and even less about anything that isn't mainstream.
he knows enough to now that ultimate is viewed as a hippy sport to
> Having Cowherd talk about ultimate is fine, anybody with a
> brain who listens to him knows he doesn't know much about
> anything and even less about anything that isn't mainstream.
most in which there is (or at least was) a very significant amount of
pot smoking going on with it. is that somthing you are willing to
contest?
>
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com
pacemaker
Apr 18, 2012, 8:35:03 PM4/18/12
to
toad wrote
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7819005/ncf-tcu-marijuana-problem-just-one-many-elite-college-programs-espn-magazine
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7819621/ncf-oregon-ducks-deny-drug-culture-eugene-espn-magazine
Yep. Pot smoking in ultimate is such strange behavior. What
is the purpose of trying to link every ultimate player to
smoking pot when 27% of college football players smoke pot?
It is cheap and lazy to do so.
And frankly who cares?
pacemaker
> he knows enough to now that ultimate is viewed as a
> hippy sport to most in which there is (or at least was) a
> very significant amount of pot smoking going on with it.
> is that somthing you are willing to contest?
I contest relevance and uniqueness.
> hippy sport to most in which there is (or at least was) a
> very significant amount of pot smoking going on with it.
> is that somthing you are willing to contest?
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7819005/ncf-tcu-marijuana-problem-just-one-many-elite-college-programs-espn-magazine
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7819621/ncf-oregon-ducks-deny-drug-culture-eugene-espn-magazine
Yep. Pot smoking in ultimate is such strange behavior. What
is the purpose of trying to link every ultimate player to
smoking pot when 27% of college football players smoke pot?
It is cheap and lazy to do so.
And frankly who cares?
pacemaker
ulticritic
Apr 18, 2012, 8:51:49 PM4/18/12
to
On Apr 18, 8:35 pm, pacemaker <mpefr...@gmail.com> wrote:.
> toad wrote
>
> > he knows enough to now that ultimate is viewed as a
> > hippy sport to most in which there is (or at least was) a
> > very significant amount of pot smoking going on with it.
> > is that somthing you are willing to contest?
>
> I contest relevance and uniqueness.
contest the relevance and uniquness all you want.......its perception
that counts and perception is reality
--------------------------------------
years it may have been as high a 98%
--------------------------------------
a sport invented by hippies and you are surprised there is a pot
smoking stereotype associated with it?
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> And frankly who cares?
people do. sponsors do. network executives do. and even if that
perception is inaccurate in todays game it didnt come from no where.
its gonna take time to change it. and transitioning out of the peace
and love self officiation meathod might help to do that. just sayin
> toad wrote
>
> > he knows enough to now that ultimate is viewed as a
> > hippy sport to most in which there is (or at least was) a
> > very significant amount of pot smoking going on with it.
> > is that somthing you are willing to contest?
>
> I contest relevance and uniqueness.
that counts and perception is reality
--------------------------------------
>
> Yep. Pot smoking in ultimate is such strange behavior. What
> is the purpose of trying to link every ultimate player to
> smoking pot when 27% of college football players smoke pot?
because probably 72% of ultimate players smoke pot......and over the
> Yep. Pot smoking in ultimate is such strange behavior. What
> is the purpose of trying to link every ultimate player to
> smoking pot when 27% of college football players smoke pot?
years it may have been as high a 98%
--------------------------------------
> It is cheap and lazy to do so.
hey, dont blame others for their perception of ultimate players. its
a sport invented by hippies and you are surprised there is a pot
smoking stereotype associated with it?
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> And frankly who cares?
people do. sponsors do. network executives do. and even if that
perception is inaccurate in todays game it didnt come from no where.
its gonna take time to change it. and transitioning out of the peace
and love self officiation meathod might help to do that. just sayin
Oldandslow
Apr 18, 2012, 9:15:04 PM4/18/12
to
ulticritic wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 17:51
I'll accept that 98% of the players you were around back in
the day smoked pot. Pot smokers tend to surround themselves
with pot smokers and get an inflated sense of how many
people smoke pot since their experience is tainted by their
peer group.
No way 72% of current competitive smoke pot. I'd be
surprised if it's as high as 25% on national level teams.
Times change.
What you don't get is why this is a great example of Cowherd
being a jackass. He has no idea what's happening with
ultimate today but he's willing to state as fact that
they're all pot smokers. It's the same shit you pull.
Opinions (particularly uninformed ones) aren't facts. When
you're the guy with a big microphone you're not relaying
perceptions, you're responsible for creating those
perceptions in others.
> On Apr 18, 8:35 pm, pacemaker
> <mpefr...@gmail.com[/email]> wrote:.
the day smoked pot. Pot smokers tend to surround themselves
with pot smokers and get an inflated sense of how many
people smoke pot since their experience is tainted by their
peer group.
No way 72% of current competitive smoke pot. I'd be
surprised if it's as high as 25% on national level teams.
Times change.
What you don't get is why this is a great example of Cowherd
being a jackass. He has no idea what's happening with
ultimate today but he's willing to state as fact that
they're all pot smokers. It's the same shit you pull.
Opinions (particularly uninformed ones) aren't facts. When
you're the guy with a big microphone you're not relaying
perceptions, you're responsible for creating those
perceptions in others.
thefan
Apr 18, 2012, 9:25:04 PM4/18/12
to
Quote:
to see the piece on PTI. Kornheiser and Wilbon are my
favorite tandem and I like their show's format.
Mitch, I may not have done a good job of getting my thought
down in writing. I find it frustrating that with all of the
press that ultimate has gotten in the last few days
primarily because of the way the AUDL presents the sport
that the thread devolved into "Cowherd is a douche so Toad
is too." Or vice versa.
The AUDL has done more for ultimate in terms of publicity
than the UPA/USAU has done in quite some time. I'm fired up.
And I'm jealous that I am too old and don't live near enough
one of those cities to be more involved.
> that cowherd guy > is not my favorite sports
> personality,
>
> who is? -----------------------------------
Since you ask, I've always liked Chris Berman. Was fired up
> personality,
>
> who is? -----------------------------------
to see the piece on PTI. Kornheiser and Wilbon are my
favorite tandem and I like their show's format.
Mitch, I may not have done a good job of getting my thought
down in writing. I find it frustrating that with all of the
press that ultimate has gotten in the last few days
primarily because of the way the AUDL presents the sport
that the thread devolved into "Cowherd is a douche so Toad
is too." Or vice versa.
The AUDL has done more for ultimate in terms of publicity
than the UPA/USAU has done in quite some time. I'm fired up.
And I'm jealous that I am too old and don't live near enough
one of those cities to be more involved.
thefan
Apr 18, 2012, 10:55:05 PM4/18/12
to
Quote:
It's our job to make him care enough to learn about us.
> What you don't get is why this is a great example of
> Cowherd being a jackass. He has no idea what's happening
> with ultimate today but he's willing to state as fact that
> they're all pot smokers.
Why would he care. He reports on sports people care about.
> Cowherd being a jackass. He has no idea what's happening
> with ultimate today but he's willing to state as fact that
> they're all pot smokers.
It's our job to make him care enough to learn about us.
Bulb
Apr 19, 2012, 1:00:04 AM4/19/12
to
ulticritic wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 15:55
Flyers sucked tonight...) and the occasional SportsCenter.
I don't like watching douches like Cowherd feed the public
with their asinine predispositions.
ulticritic wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 15:55
must not be a douche? The Jersey Shore gets pretty good
ratings too, you don't find anyone on there to be a douche?
It's not like I'm alone, either...
BJ wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 16:39
ulticritic wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 15:55
some research on the AUDL before making those comments.
> > I had no idea who the Herd was until Toad's post
> > today.
>
> now THAT is what explains alot. of course some how i'm
> not surprised that you are/were totally ignorant of who
> colin cowherd is. you dont seem to know much about sports
> in general.
Ha, good one. I like watching actual games (good grief the
> > today.
>
> now THAT is what explains alot. of course some how i'm
> not surprised that you are/were totally ignorant of who
> colin cowherd is. you dont seem to know much about sports
> in general.
Flyers sucked tonight...) and the occasional SportsCenter.
I don't like watching douches like Cowherd feed the public
with their asinine predispositions.
ulticritic wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 15:55
> > Watched this segment, and yup, he's a douche.
>
> why? because he tells it like it is? and if he's such a
> douch then why are his ratings so high?
Have you been so programmed that anyone with high ratings
>
> why? because he tells it like it is? and if he's such a
> douch then why are his ratings so high?
must not be a douche? The Jersey Shore gets pretty good
ratings too, you don't find anyone on there to be a douche?
It's not like I'm alone, either...
BJ wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 16:39
> I have watched. I have paid attention. I submit that he
> is a Douche Lord.
Oldand slow wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 18:50
> is a Douche Lord.
> Toad, it makes perfect sense that you idolize this guy.
> You're not just a sycophant, you're cut from the same mold
> but even more annoying. You make the same senseless
> comparisons and the same wrong conclusions (e.g.
> "leadership is IQ. " Leadership is not IQ. IQ helps
> with leadership but most high IQ people are not leaders,
> they don't have the people skills. )
>
> "leadership is IQ. " Leadership is not IQ. IQ helps
> with leadership but most high IQ people are not leaders,
> they don't have the people skills. )
>
> Cowherd was an arrogant ass as a local TV sports
> announcer and he was an ass on the local sports radio
> station where they still make fun of his total lack of
> work ethic.
>
> announcer and he was an ass on the local sports radio
> station where they still make fun of his total lack of
> work ethic.
>
> Having Cowherd talk about ultimate is fine, anybody with
> a brain who listens to him knows he doesn't know much
> about anything and even less about anything that isn't
> mainstream.
Ryan Delaney wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 16:48
> a brain who listens to him knows he doesn't know much
> about anything and even less about anything that isn't
> mainstream.
> I never knew who he was until today, and my perception
> of him, from today, is that he's a douche.
>
> Not a single mention of anything happening in the play.
> Just mocking. Pretty douchey.
So... yeah. He's a douche.
> of him, from today, is that he's a douche.
>
> Not a single mention of anything happening in the play.
> Just mocking. Pretty douchey.
ulticritic wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 15:55
> > Do some
> > research, guy.
>
> about what? what the herds rating are? the fact that
> hes has two shows on espn? and why is it you consider him
> a douche? because he talked shit about the "frisbee guy"
> stereotype? i guess this is what they mean when they say
> "the truth hurts".
That was directed at Cowherd, genius. He should've done
> > research, guy.
>
> about what? what the herds rating are? the fact that
> hes has two shows on espn? and why is it you consider him
> a douche? because he talked shit about the "frisbee guy"
> stereotype? i guess this is what they mean when they say
> "the truth hurts".
some research on the AUDL before making those comments.
jt
Apr 19, 2012, 12:58:49 AM4/19/12
to
On Apr 18, 4:40 pm, BJ <ut.bj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have watched. I have paid attention. I submit that he is a
> Douche Lord.
>
> I am completely comfortable with using "Cowherd is great!"
> as a filter for people I don't like.
>
> http://deadspin.com/5885390/kate-upton-hangs-up-on-colin-cowherd-afte...
> Douche Lord.
>
> I am completely comfortable with using "Cowherd is great!"
> as a filter for people I don't like.
>
>
> http://deadspin.com/5681694/colin-cowherds-asinine-john-wall-rant-wit...
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com
Did i respond to you? No. Colin has been employed by espn to make
jokes and mock bad plays....
If you didn't understand this then watch 20 or so episodes and you
will see. Jokes might be bad sometimes but you can't deny 2 shows on
a top network. I love that he mentioned ultimate, twice!!!!
JT
jt
Apr 19, 2012, 1:13:39 AM4/19/12
to
On Apr 18, 4:40 pm, mgd.mitch <mgd.mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> thefan wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 16:02> but he's popular enough that the execs at the de facto
> > sports leader gave him his own TV and radio spot. so now
> > that ultimate is there, and it's there because of
> > something Toad likes, this thread has devolved into
> > "cowherd is a douche."?
>
> i don't see this logic. Why can't someone think "cowherd is
> a douche" independent of anything to do with ultimate or
> toad or the AUDL? That seems pretty simple. Cowherd
> mentioning ultimate isn't independent of the AUDL, but
> people's opinion of cowherd can come from all sorts of
> stuff.
All, said they have never heard of the guy. So, where do you get this
> thefan wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 16:02> but he's popular enough that the execs at the de facto
> > sports leader gave him his own TV and radio spot. so now
> > that ultimate is there, and it's there because of
> > something Toad likes, this thread has devolved into
> > "cowherd is a douche."?
>
> i don't see this logic. Why can't someone think "cowherd is
> a douche" independent of anything to do with ultimate or
> toad or the AUDL? That seems pretty simple. Cowherd
> mentioning ultimate isn't independent of the AUDL, but
> people's opinion of cowherd can come from all sorts of
> stuff.
opinion from all sorts of stuff? You do know that this guy is a
comedian of some sorts? Watch his shows.....
Glad he spoke of ultimate, TWICE!!!!!!
> There are plenty of people out there that have radio spots
> that aren't nice people. Just about anything political
> comes to mind.
>
When you get it, we can have a better conversation.....
Can't wait to see ultimate live on primetime!
JT
Matt W
Apr 19, 2012, 2:10:03 AM4/19/12
to
Douche bag or not? I think this picture makes it pretty
clear:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colin_Cowherd_Cropped.jpg
clear:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colin_Cowherd_Cropped.jpg
Oldandslow
Apr 19, 2012, 2:25:03 AM4/19/12
to
And now everyone knows why he's undoubtedly one of the
members of Jim Rome's Rat Family.
members of Jim Rome's Rat Family.
jt
Apr 19, 2012, 2:57:37 AM4/19/12
to
jt
Apr 19, 2012, 2:59:10 AM4/19/12
to
ulticritic
Apr 19, 2012, 7:15:43 AM4/19/12
to
On Apr 18, 9:15 pm, Oldandslow <ebil...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I'll accept that 98% of the players you were around back in
> the day smoked pot. Pot smokers tend to surround themselves
> with pot smokers and get an inflated sense of how many
> people smoke pot since their experience is tainted by their
> peer group.
dont overthink it, we just liked gettin high.......although there were
>
> I'll accept that 98% of the players you were around back in
> the day smoked pot. Pot smokers tend to surround themselves
> with pot smokers and get an inflated sense of how many
> people smoke pot since their experience is tainted by their
> peer group.
many seasons i quit for the sake of being faster and more alert
(dreads and all)
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>
> No way 72% of current competitive smoke pot. I'd be
> surprised if it's as high as 25% on national level teams.
> Times change.
but perceptions dont.....and thats what we are talking about here
> No way 72% of current competitive smoke pot. I'd be
> surprised if it's as high as 25% on national level teams.
> Times change.
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>
> What you don't get is why this is a great example of Cowherd
> being a jackass.
because it was funny. you just think he was being a jackass because
> What you don't get is why this is a great example of Cowherd
> being a jackass.
the joke was on you/ultimate
---------------------------------------------------------------
He has no idea what's happening with
> ultimate today but he's willing to state as fact that
> they're all pot smokers.
reputation that ultimate has made for itself
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>It's the same shit you pull.
> Opinions (particularly uninformed ones) aren't facts.
perception is reality
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When
> you're the guy with a big microphone you're not relaying
> perceptions,
-----------------------------
you're responsible for creating those
> perceptions in others.
outcasted jocks for the first 25 years of its life. the herd wasnt
even in the industry then, so dont blame the fact that "frisbee guy"
is percieved as a stoner on him. and dont thin that the anit
authority/anti ref/peace and love aspect of the sport didnt play a
role in how ultimate is percieved either
ulticritic
Apr 19, 2012, 7:20:16 AM4/19/12
to
On Apr 18, 9:25 pm, thefan <jimmyholtz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Quote:
>
> > that cowherd guy > is not my favorite sports
> > personality,
>
> > who is? -----------------------------------
>
> Since you ask, I've always liked Chris Berman. Was fired up
> to see the piece on PTI. Kornheiser and Wilbon are my
> favorite tandem and I like their show's format.
yes, they are good. would love to see what they would do with the
> Quote:
>
> > that cowherd guy > is not my favorite sports
> > personality,
>
> > who is? -----------------------------------
>
> Since you ask, I've always liked Chris Berman. Was fired up
> to see the piece on PTI. Kornheiser and Wilbon are my
> favorite tandem and I like their show's format.
fact that ultimate is anti ref (pre audl). kornheiser actually
reminds me of a young cowherd
-----------------------------------------------------
>
> Mitch, I may not have done a good job of getting my thought
> down in writing.
yea, he seems to have that problem. i got what you were saying
> Mitch, I may not have done a good job of getting my thought
> down in writing.
---------------------------------------------
I find it frustrating that with all of the
> press that ultimate has gotten in the last few days
> primarily because of the way the AUDL presents the sport
> that the thread devolved into "Cowherd is a douche so Toad
> is too." Or vice versa.
desperately use anything they can to try and discredit me.
------------------------------
>
> The AUDL has done more for ultimate in terms of publicity
> than the UPA/USAU has done in quite some time. I'm fired up.
> And I'm jealous that I am too old and don't live near enough
> one of those cities to be more involved.
maybe we should pool our resources and simply buy a nc franchise
> The AUDL has done more for ultimate in terms of publicity
> than the UPA/USAU has done in quite some time. I'm fired up.
> And I'm jealous that I am too old and don't live near enough
> one of those cities to be more involved.
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com
ulticritic
Apr 19, 2012, 7:31:37 AM4/19/12
to
On Apr 19, 1:00 am, Bulb <kevin.patrick.mccorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Have you been so programmed that anyone with high ratings
> must not be a douche? The Jersey Shore gets pretty good
> ratings too, you don't find anyone on there to be a douche?
never watch the show.....obviously you have though......which explains
>
> Have you been so programmed that anyone with high ratings
> must not be a douche? The Jersey Shore gets pretty good
> ratings too, you don't find anyone on there to be a douche?
even more
-------------------------------------------------
>
> It's not like I'm alone, either...
but you are basing his doucheness on one single comment.....if you
> It's not like I'm alone, either...
watch more of his stuff you might find that you aggree with him quite
often
----------------------------------------------
>
> BJ wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 16:39
>
> > I have watched. I have paid attention. I submit that he
> > is a Douche Lord.
and look what his examples were. are you a proponent of players "doin
> BJ wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 16:39
>
> > I have watched. I have paid attention. I submit that he
> > is a Douche Lord.
the douugie" when the get announced. i wouldnt think that was your
kinda thing
------------------------------------------
>
> > Toad, it makes perfect sense that you idolize this guy.
> > You're not just a sycophant, you're cut from the same mold
> > but even more annoying. You make the same senseless
> > comparisons and the same wrong conclusions (e.g.
> > "leadership is IQ. " Leadership is not IQ. IQ helps
> > with leadership but most high IQ people are not leaders,
> > they don't have the people skills. )
>
> > Cowherd was an arrogant ass as a local TV sports
> > announcer and he was an ass on the local sports radio
> > station where they still make fun of his total lack of
> > work ethic.
>
> > Having Cowherd talk about ultimate is fine, anybody with
> > a brain who listens to him knows he doesn't know much
> > about anything and even less about anything that isn't
> > mainstream.
so you just blindly accept this second hand info? maybe this guy is
> > Toad, it makes perfect sense that you idolize this guy.
> > You're not just a sycophant, you're cut from the same mold
> > but even more annoying. You make the same senseless
> > comparisons and the same wrong conclusions (e.g.
> > "leadership is IQ. " Leadership is not IQ. IQ helps
> > with leadership but most high IQ people are not leaders,
> > they don't have the people skills. )
>
> > Cowherd was an arrogant ass as a local TV sports
> > announcer and he was an ass on the local sports radio
> > station where they still make fun of his total lack of
> > work ethic.
>
> > Having Cowherd talk about ultimate is fine, anybody with
> > a brain who listens to him knows he doesn't know much
> > about anything and even less about anything that isn't
> > mainstream.
just a hater and is making a kneejerk reaction
--------------------------------------------
>
> Ryan Delaney wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 16:48
>
> > I never knew who he was until today, and my perception
> > of him, from today, is that he's a douche.
>
> > Not a single mention of anything happening in the play.
> > Just mocking. Pretty douchey.
>
> So... yeah. He's a douche.
so anybody who mocks anybody else is automatically a douche?
> Ryan Delaney wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 16:48
>
> > I never knew who he was until today, and my perception
> > of him, from today, is that he's a douche.
>
> > Not a single mention of anything happening in the play.
> > Just mocking. Pretty douchey.
>
> So... yeah. He's a douche.
---------------------------------------------------
>
> ulticritic wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 15:55
>
> > > Do some
> > > research, guy.
>
> > about what? what the herds rating are? the fact that
> > hes has two shows on espn? and why is it you consider him
> > a douche? because he talked shit about the "frisbee guy"
> > stereotype? i guess this is what they mean when they say
> > "the truth hurts".
>
> That was directed at Cowherd, genius.
he does lots of reaserch. and BELIEVE ME, if he was to actually
> ulticritic wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 15:55
>
> > > Do some
> > > research, guy.
>
> > about what? what the herds rating are? the fact that
> > hes has two shows on espn? and why is it you consider him
> > a douche? because he talked shit about the "frisbee guy"
> > stereotype? i guess this is what they mean when they say
> > "the truth hurts".
>
> That was directed at Cowherd, genius.
research the sport his mockery would/could increase 10 fold.
------------------------------------------------
He should've done
> some research on the AUDL before making those comments.
that was invented weeks before?
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com
ulticritic
Apr 19, 2012, 7:33:47 AM4/19/12
to
On Apr 19, 2:10 am, Matt W <slip...@gmail.com> wrote:.
> Douche bag or not? I think this picture makes it pretty
> clear:
how?
> Douche bag or not? I think this picture makes it pretty
> clear:
ulticritic
Apr 19, 2012, 7:35:57 AM4/19/12
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> And now everyone knows why he's undoubtedly one of the
> members of Jim Rome's Rat Family.
jim rome make colin look like a pussy cat. like jt says, yall just
> members of Jim Rome's Rat Family.
need to watch/listen to his show on a consistant basis.
it is telling that the same people athat are anit toad are also anti
herd
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com
Bulb
Apr 19, 2012, 10:10:05 AM4/19/12
to
ulticritic wrote on Thu, 19 April 2012 07:31
And weeks? Gimme a break. The league has been in the works
for a couple years. Had he taken all of 2 minutes to go to
the AUDL website and clicked on "Contact Us" he might've
known that.
> > He should've done
> > some research on the AUDL before making those
> > comments.
>
> seriously????? you expect these guys to learn about a
> sport/league that was invented weeks before?
..yes? Why wouldn't I expect that?
> > some research on the AUDL before making those
> > comments.
>
> seriously????? you expect these guys to learn about a
> sport/league that was invented weeks before?
And weeks? Gimme a break. The league has been in the works
for a couple years. Had he taken all of 2 minutes to go to
the AUDL website and clicked on "Contact Us" he might've
known that.
thefan
Apr 19, 2012, 10:21:47 AM4/19/12
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Quote:
get down there this summer.
> maybe we should pool our resources and simply buy a nc
> franchise
this is definitely something we need to talk about when i
> franchise
get down there this summer.
ulticritic
Apr 19, 2012, 4:09:52 PM4/19/12
to
On Apr 19, 10:21 am, thefan <jimmyholtz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Quote:
>
> > maybe we should pool our resources and simply buy a nc
> > franchise
>
> this is definitely something we need to talk about when i
> get down there this summer.
yes. lets see how the rest of the audl season pans out and give it
> Quote:
>
> > maybe we should pool our resources and simply buy a nc
> > franchise
>
> this is definitely something we need to talk about when i
> get down there this summer.
some serious thought. are you in charlotte now? even though rdu is
more of a hotbed it seems that the audl is looking form bigger cities
for their franchises. i would think raliegh might get better turnouts
but dont really know. what do you think?
> --
> Posted fromhttp://www.rsdnospam.com
BJ
Apr 19, 2012, 4:20:04 PM4/19/12
to
JUST EMAIL THE FAG ALREADY
thefan
Apr 19, 2012, 4:25:03 PM4/19/12
to
I'm in the triad. not the place for ultimate. if i were
putting a franchise in NC i'd put it right smack in the
middle of the triangle. Charlotte next. not because of the
ultimate scene, but it's a growing city, lots of young
college educated folks. money. and a pro sports scene.
putting a franchise in NC i'd put it right smack in the
middle of the triangle. Charlotte next. not because of the
ultimate scene, but it's a growing city, lots of young
college educated folks. money. and a pro sports scene.
thefan
Apr 19, 2012, 4:30:07 PM4/19/12
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umm, Mr. my screen name is a term for oral sex performed on
fellows, there's been some discussion in the past about
throwing around slurs like that in general terms and the
main offenders have pretty much toned it down.
you however are making a direct reference to me. and i
don't care for it one bit.
i've said in a different post that unless you're willing to
set up a time a place to hurl those insults in person, then
you're just a scaredy chump hiding behind your keyboard on
the internet.
here's my email: jimmyholtzman at yahoo dot com
set up the time and place or back step real quick.
fellows, there's been some discussion in the past about
throwing around slurs like that in general terms and the
main offenders have pretty much toned it down.
you however are making a direct reference to me. and i
don't care for it one bit.
i've said in a different post that unless you're willing to
set up a time a place to hurl those insults in person, then
you're just a scaredy chump hiding behind your keyboard on
the internet.
here's my email: jimmyholtzman at yahoo dot com
set up the time and place or back step real quick.
mgd.mitch
Apr 19, 2012, 4:45:04 PM4/19/12
to
thefan wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 21:24
thread) that that is the overall tone of this community. It
is frustrating, but look towards toad's corner when figuring
out why.Quote:
out there other places as well. However, that's not the
first time an ultimate clip has made top plays on sports
center in the past two years, I believe it is the third that
I can think of. Brodie's videos have certainly gotten
mainstream exposure as well. (all good things IMO).
The difference I see is the AUDL put something there in the
start of a season whereas the clips before have come at the
end. Hopefully the AUDL can sustain some level of national
publicity. I still see a problem with the city selection.
Places with an established community start pretty
respectably. Others, not so much. I hope it works it's way
into a sustainable form.
> Mitch, I may not have done a good job of getting my
> thought down in writing. I find it frustrating that with
> all of the press that ultimate has gotten in the last few
> days primarily because of the way the AUDL presents the
> sport that the thread devolved into "Cowherd is a douche
> so Toad is too." Or vice versa.
Toad has derailed enough threads (read: basically every
> thought down in writing. I find it frustrating that with
> all of the press that ultimate has gotten in the last few
> days primarily because of the way the AUDL presents the
> sport that the thread devolved into "Cowherd is a douche
> so Toad is too." Or vice versa.
thread) that that is the overall tone of this community. It
is frustrating, but look towards toad's corner when figuring
out why.Quote:
> The AUDL has done more for ultimate in terms of
> publicity than the UPA/USAU has done in quite some time.
> I'm fired up. And I'm jealous that I am too old and don't
> live near enough one of those cities to be more involved.
The AUDL has certainly gotten ultimate on ESPN and put it
> publicity than the UPA/USAU has done in quite some time.
> I'm fired up. And I'm jealous that I am too old and don't
> live near enough one of those cities to be more involved.
out there other places as well. However, that's not the
first time an ultimate clip has made top plays on sports
center in the past two years, I believe it is the third that
I can think of. Brodie's videos have certainly gotten
mainstream exposure as well. (all good things IMO).
The difference I see is the AUDL put something there in the
start of a season whereas the clips before have come at the
end. Hopefully the AUDL can sustain some level of national
publicity. I still see a problem with the city selection.
Places with an established community start pretty
respectably. Others, not so much. I hope it works it's way
into a sustainable form.
Baer
Apr 19, 2012, 4:45:05 PM4/19/12
to
ulticritic wrote on Thu, 19 April 2012 15:09
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=203855204088609332234.0004b24ad19e1de220961&msa=0&ll=42.032974,-90.791016&spn=35.383476,78.662109
According to this "expansion map" from the AUDL site, a
franchise has already been sold in Charlotte.
> On Apr 19, 10:21 am, thefan
According to this "expansion map" from the AUDL site, a
franchise has already been sold in Charlotte.
thefan
Apr 19, 2012, 4:55:06 PM4/19/12
to
Quote:
extent Josh said at one point that he went where investors
were willing to give the money and i'm sure there is a great
deal of truth to that. It also occured to me that with the
exception of the Kentucky team, all the teams are in places
that have a pro sports scene. these two things may well be
connected (pro sports = bigger city = more money).
the cities certainly leave something to be desired in that
respect, but if the teams and league can succeed in spite of
that, it certanily bodes well for the expansion into more
cities with established ultimate communities.
> I still see a problem with the city selection. Places
> with an established community start pretty respectably.
> Others, not so much. I hope it works it's way into a
> sustainable form.
i was giving this some thought the other night. to some
> with an established community start pretty respectably.
> Others, not so much. I hope it works it's way into a
> sustainable form.
extent Josh said at one point that he went where investors
were willing to give the money and i'm sure there is a great
deal of truth to that. It also occured to me that with the
exception of the Kentucky team, all the teams are in places
that have a pro sports scene. these two things may well be
connected (pro sports = bigger city = more money).
the cities certainly leave something to be desired in that
respect, but if the teams and league can succeed in spite of
that, it certanily bodes well for the expansion into more
cities with established ultimate communities.
thefan
Apr 19, 2012, 4:55:08 PM4/19/12
to
Quote:
used to harp, "it takes two to tango."
> Toad has derailed enough threads (read: basically every
> thread) that that is the overall tone of this community.
> It is frustrating, but look towards toad's corner when
> figuring out why.
i'll grant you that his style is abrasive, but as my mother
> thread) that that is the overall tone of this community.
> It is frustrating, but look towards toad's corner when
> figuring out why.
used to harp, "it takes two to tango."
Reggie Fanelli
Apr 19, 2012, 4:58:20 PM4/19/12
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~~~~~~~~~
---wow....look at that awful language.
---wow....look at that awful language.
mgd.mitch
Apr 19, 2012, 5:05:04 PM4/19/12
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thefan wrote on Thu, 19 April 2012 16:53
cities, that's where you go. I also thought this wouldn't
be as much of an issue once I realized they weren't going
after the ultimate community but rather Joe Public. The
problem is Joe Public didn't seem to show up, only the
ultimate community.
Quote:
we'd all agree that 100-200 people per game isn't going to
keep the lights on. Philly had the best attendance at
~1,600. Is that anywhere near where they need to be in
order to sustain their existence, or are they going to need
to double/triple that to survive? (I have no idea).
> i was giving this some thought the other night. to some
> extent Josh said at one point that he went where investors
> were willing to give the money and i'm sure there is a
> great deal of truth to that. It also occured to me that
> with the exception of the Kentucky team, all the teams are
> in places that have a pro sports scene. these two things
> may well be connected (pro sports = bigger city = more
> money).
I totally agree. If money will only come from non-ultimate
> extent Josh said at one point that he went where investors
> were willing to give the money and i'm sure there is a
> great deal of truth to that. It also occured to me that
> with the exception of the Kentucky team, all the teams are
> in places that have a pro sports scene. these two things
> may well be connected (pro sports = bigger city = more
> money).
cities, that's where you go. I also thought this wouldn't
be as much of an issue once I realized they weren't going
after the ultimate community but rather Joe Public. The
problem is Joe Public didn't seem to show up, only the
ultimate community.
Quote:
> the cities certainly leave something to be desired in
> that respect, but if the teams and league can succeed in
> spite of that, it certanily bodes well for the expansion
> into more cities with established ultimate communities.
I wonder what size fan base makes them profitable. I think
> that respect, but if the teams and league can succeed in
> spite of that, it certanily bodes well for the expansion
> into more cities with established ultimate communities.
we'd all agree that 100-200 people per game isn't going to
keep the lights on. Philly had the best attendance at
~1,600. Is that anywhere near where they need to be in
order to sustain their existence, or are they going to need
to double/triple that to survive? (I have no idea).
thefan
Apr 19, 2012, 5:15:04 PM4/19/12
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Quote:
it's going to cost a lot more to keep the lights on in the
Silverdome than at Westerville High (Columbus). I'm sure
they knew going in that they wouldn't get the fans in the
seats in the numbers they wanted for the first game. the
trick is certainly going to be growing the fan base through
the season and for that, they were going to need Joe Public
whether they started with an ultimate community or not.
> I wonder what size fan base makes them profitable. I
> think we'd all agree that 100-200 people per game isn't
> going to keep the lights on. Philly had the best
> attendance at ~1,600. Is that anywhere near where they
> need to be in order to sustain their existence, or are
> they going to need to double/triple that to survive? (I
> have no idea).
that is going to vary widely based on where the teams play.
> think we'd all agree that 100-200 people per game isn't
> going to keep the lights on. Philly had the best
> attendance at ~1,600. Is that anywhere near where they
> need to be in order to sustain their existence, or are
> they going to need to double/triple that to survive? (I
> have no idea).
it's going to cost a lot more to keep the lights on in the
Silverdome than at Westerville High (Columbus). I'm sure
they knew going in that they wouldn't get the fans in the
seats in the numbers they wanted for the first game. the
trick is certainly going to be growing the fan base through
the season and for that, they were going to need Joe Public
whether they started with an ultimate community or not.
Baer
Apr 19, 2012, 5:25:06 PM4/19/12
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mgd.mitch wrote on Thu, 19 April 2012 16:01
going for right now). It certainly looks like, despite the
initial misteps in getting the AUDL started, the product is
awesome, and the initial publicity is unprecedented: there
are so many great things about what the AUDL has done and
showed in the past week. They deserve a ton of credit for
that (which I admit I was unwilling to give earlier).
1600 fans at a game is amazing, but that was at one game
while the other venues drew a small fraction of that
combined. Can Philly keep it up? Can the other teams step
up? (It will be interesting to see what Indy and Detroit
draw at their first home games)
One of the glaring problems with Josh Moore's initial
business proposal is that he "conservatively" estimated 2000
fans at each game and beaucoup sponsorship, leading to
pie-in-the-sky revenues and profits. The proposal
guesstimated some travel expenses but did not even venture
an estimate at facility rental, advertising, and equipment
costs, not to mention player salaries. That is why I
predicted (and still predict) financial failure.
Aside from that, though, I must admit that the AUDL looks
really, really sweet at this point and is a game-changer for
the sport and the Ultimate community. The on-the-field
changes to the game, and the exposure and awareness of the
sport will be the AUDL's legacy, IMHO, but profits will not.
Even if Philly can manage to be a profitable franchise, it
will take more than one or two teams to make for a
successful league.
Certain franchises will fold after the first season or two,
and if the remaining owners continue to be committed, and
new franchise owners don't bail, then there may be a chance
if positive exposure increases, but it will take a loooong
and expensive commitment. Whether the owners care enought to
commit that far will be key.
> I wonder what size fan base makes them profitable. I
> think we'd all agree that 100-200 people per game isn't
> going to keep the lights on. Philly had the best
> attendance at ~1,600. Is that anywhere near where they
> need to be in order to sustain their existence, or are
> they going to need to double/triple that to survive? (I
> have no idea).
That's the 2500 dollar question (or whatever franchises are
> think we'd all agree that 100-200 people per game isn't
> going to keep the lights on. Philly had the best
> attendance at ~1,600. Is that anywhere near where they
> need to be in order to sustain their existence, or are
> they going to need to double/triple that to survive? (I
> have no idea).
going for right now). It certainly looks like, despite the
initial misteps in getting the AUDL started, the product is
awesome, and the initial publicity is unprecedented: there
are so many great things about what the AUDL has done and
showed in the past week. They deserve a ton of credit for
that (which I admit I was unwilling to give earlier).
1600 fans at a game is amazing, but that was at one game
while the other venues drew a small fraction of that
combined. Can Philly keep it up? Can the other teams step
up? (It will be interesting to see what Indy and Detroit
draw at their first home games)
One of the glaring problems with Josh Moore's initial
business proposal is that he "conservatively" estimated 2000
fans at each game and beaucoup sponsorship, leading to
pie-in-the-sky revenues and profits. The proposal
guesstimated some travel expenses but did not even venture
an estimate at facility rental, advertising, and equipment
costs, not to mention player salaries. That is why I
predicted (and still predict) financial failure.
Aside from that, though, I must admit that the AUDL looks
really, really sweet at this point and is a game-changer for
the sport and the Ultimate community. The on-the-field
changes to the game, and the exposure and awareness of the
sport will be the AUDL's legacy, IMHO, but profits will not.
Even if Philly can manage to be a profitable franchise, it
will take more than one or two teams to make for a
successful league.
Certain franchises will fold after the first season or two,
and if the remaining owners continue to be committed, and
new franchise owners don't bail, then there may be a chance
if positive exposure increases, but it will take a loooong
and expensive commitment. Whether the owners care enought to
commit that far will be key.
ulticritic
Apr 19, 2012, 5:29:18 PM4/19/12
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On Apr 19, 4:45 pm, mgd.mitch <mgd.mi...@gmail.com> wrote:.
> thefan wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 21:24
> Mitch, I may not have done a good job of getting my
> > thought down in writing. I find it frustrating that with
> > all of the press that ultimate has gotten in the last few
> > days primarily because of the way the AUDL presents the
> > sport that the thread devolved into "Cowherd is a douche
> > so Toad is too." Or vice versa.
>
> Toad has derailed enough threads (read: basically every
> thread) that that is the overall tone of this community.
NO IT ISNT.....its the overall tone of a few pissy little nowhere men
pricks like yourself. i find it crazy how you lump everybody into
your little clique of dipshits.
----------------------------------------
It
> is frustrating, but look towards toad's corner when figuring
> out why.
but isnt it evident to you that his frustration is not directed
towards me but rahte you and your kind?
and didnt i tell you to shut the fuck up already and stick to being a
peeon summerleaguer
> thefan wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 21:24
> Mitch, I may not have done a good job of getting my
> > thought down in writing. I find it frustrating that with
> > all of the press that ultimate has gotten in the last few
> > days primarily because of the way the AUDL presents the
> > sport that the thread devolved into "Cowherd is a douche
> > so Toad is too." Or vice versa.
>
> Toad has derailed enough threads (read: basically every
> thread) that that is the overall tone of this community.
pricks like yourself. i find it crazy how you lump everybody into
your little clique of dipshits.
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> is frustrating, but look towards toad's corner when figuring
> out why.
towards me but rahte you and your kind?
and didnt i tell you to shut the fuck up already and stick to being a
peeon summerleaguer
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