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Throw

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Dec 11, 2009, 1:57:27 PM12/11/09
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Interesting stuff....

NY Times article (12-11-09, front pg. and B16)

au: Alan Schwarz

"A little less crack! accompanies the televised collisions between
National Football League behemoths these days. Players are tackling as
hard as ever. But broadcasters are toning down the glorification of
the sport’s inherent violence."


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/11/sports/football/11concussions.html?_r=1&ref=sports


Later,
Lance Marput
www.thisisultimate.com

ulticritic

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Dec 14, 2009, 7:57:31 AM12/14/09
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On Dec 11, 1:57 pm, Throw <i...@ThisIsUltimate.com> wrote:
> Interesting stuff....
>
>  NY Times article (12-11-09, front pg. and B16)
>
> au: Alan Schwarz
>
> "A little less crack! accompanies the televised collisions between
> National Football League behemoths these days. Players are tackling as
> hard as ever. But broadcasters are toning down the glorification of
> the sport’s inherent violence."
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/11/sports/football/11concussions.html?...
>
> Later,
> Lance Marputwww.thisisultimate.com

and????? whats your point?

Throw

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Dec 16, 2009, 10:23:47 PM12/16/09
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bumpt

Throw

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Dec 16, 2009, 10:26:18 PM12/16/09
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p.s. really though toad ulticritic leber...i could scrawl my point
backwards on paper, staple it to your fkn forehead and hand you a
mirror and you still wouldn't figure it out.

Hank & Co.
www.thisisultimate.com

ulticritic

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Dec 17, 2009, 8:13:46 AM12/17/09
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TRY ME......i'd break your fuckin arm if you did.

telling that you cant convey the significance of this insignificant
thread though

Throw

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Dec 17, 2009, 9:16:29 AM12/17/09
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ultigoof: > TRY ME......i'd break your fuckin arm if you did.


Toad...you silver tongued devil.

Have a good day on that end.

Peter & Hank & Co.

Jonathan Hoffman

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Dec 18, 2009, 10:55:38 AM12/18/09
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I do have a question regarding what you see as the relevance
of this article to Ultimate.

Do you think that the change in the culture that the
articles describes impacts the Ultimate community in some
way or is this post more just for general discussion?
--
Posted from http://www.rsdnospam.com

Throw

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Dec 18, 2009, 12:20:30 PM12/18/09
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> Do you think that the change in the culture that the
> articles describes impacts the Ultimate community in some
> way or is this post more just for general discussion?


General discussion in some ways...yes.

I've been following the NFL's concerns of brain damage due to
concussions.

I think as the story gets more press ....and more is known about head
trauma some parents will think a little more about their kid playing
football.

Some of those kids will naturally look toward other sports of their
parents don't want them to sign up for football,etc.

Do I see a huge # of kids coming to ultimate due to this ?

No....but some nonetheless.

Are there concussions in ultimate? Now and then sure.....but I'd think
not near as common as in american football.

Either way....just pop culture mile-marker observations.

Your thoughts JH?

Peter Mc
www.thisisultimate.com

scpoulos14

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Dec 18, 2009, 1:32:06 PM12/18/09
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this post is terrible. kids are gonna play football either
way. you do seem to enjoy acting tough with your talk
towards Toad. he really must be under your spirit/zealot
skin!

Throw

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Dec 18, 2009, 2:03:39 PM12/18/09
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poulos.....

Don't be such a nancy...

As I've said in the past, you aggrozealots are so pathetic / thick
skulled you often don't realize who's on the same side of the
officiating issue as yourselves.

Maybe we'll cross paths on the playing field sometime down the road.

I'd bet you a case of beer you'd call more fouls than myself.

Later,
Peter Mc

Throw

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Dec 18, 2009, 2:25:08 PM12/18/09
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an earlier story by the same NY Times author:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/25/sports/football/25concussion.html


scpoulos14

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Dec 18, 2009, 3:40:04 PM12/18/09
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true true. let myself get caught up in the heckling fever.
negativity not a good thing.

damn, that is a cool challenge Peter! I better save some
money for the beer! football and ultimate: two great
sports. thankful for the american ingenuity that created
both.

jim

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Dec 18, 2009, 4:09:52 PM12/18/09
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On Dec 11, 1:57 pm, Throw <i...@ThisIsUltimate.com> wrote:
> Interesting stuff....
>
>  NY Times article (12-11-09, front pg. and B16)
>
> au: Alan Schwarz
>
> "A little less crack! accompanies the televised collisions between
> National Football League behemoths these days. Players are tackling as
> hard as ever. But broadcasters are toning down the glorification of
> the sport’s inherent violence."
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/11/sports/football/11concussions.html?...
>
> Later,
> Lance Marputwww.thisisultimate.com

wow.

when is your article on living in a bubble gonna come out?

Throw

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Dec 18, 2009, 4:23:18 PM12/18/09
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jim....

so you think long term brain injury, due to concussions, is actually a
nothing of an issue for football players and parents of possible young
players?


Peter Mc


Peterson

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Dec 18, 2009, 4:32:31 PM12/18/09
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I think most reasonable people have known for quite some time that
football is a fairly dangerous sport with head injuries, broken bones,
etc... No real new revelations there. The sport seems to continue
growing and is very popular. There has been a recent (20 years) surge
in youth soccer partially driven by parents that don't want their
kiddies playing football. The difference is that soccer is much more
organized and available in this organized fashion with leagues, actual
jerseys, refs, field space etc... Pretty hard to get kids playing
ultimate when it doesn't really have an infastructure and nobody even
knows what the hell it is other than the relatively few people that
play it. I think that is why some here want a top down and bottom up
approach to growing the sport. So the kiddies and parents have some
recognition of the existance of the sport at a higher level and then
of course an opportunity to participate.

Peterson

Throw

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:28:29 PM12/18/09
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Peterson....

yes....everyone knows american football is a tough sport.

The point is....there have been new revelations about football in the
last year. And it's changing the football culture a notch.

anyway....just pop culture sports observations and worth reading.

later,
Peter Mc

jim

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Dec 19, 2009, 10:03:28 PM12/19/09
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On Dec 18, 4:23 pm, Throw <i...@ThisIsUltimate.com> wrote:

peter,

so you think kids are actually coming to play ultimate due to the
injuries in football?
guess again...hell, where is that place kids go to play ultimate?
what league is out there?
i think kids are going to play soccer (like peterson said) and
definitely lacrosse...look at the growth of lacrosse over the last 10
years. the national lacrosse organization (whoever that is) is doing
it right. it is looked at as a legitimate option for youth sports.
for the record I have never played lacrosse and don't know anything
about it....what I do know is that when I was in high school here in
the south, lacrosse was not around...now it's huge and a varsity and
jv sport in high schools....15 yrs later.

put refs in ultimate, organize leagues, and kids will start playing
more each year....until refs are added to the sport, it will never be
taken seriously!!!!!

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