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Lance Marput
Sep 13, 2012, 1:25:04 PM9/13/12
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Toad Leber sure hasn't spewed much... if anything...on rsd
in the last few months. And not a peep out of anyone on the
subject? what the heck...
Anybody read obits in that part of the country?
Peter Mc
MDSC
--
Posted from http://www.rsdnospam.com
in the last few months. And not a peep out of anyone on the
subject? what the heck...
Anybody read obits in that part of the country?
Peter Mc
MDSC
--
Posted from http://www.rsdnospam.com
Not Ultimate
Sep 13, 2012, 10:04:03 PM9/13/12
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I've wondered the same. He went from averaging 6-7 messages
a day to absolutely nothing for the last 3 months. Quite
the dramatic shift.
a day to absolutely nothing for the last 3 months. Quite
the dramatic shift.
Bobus
Sep 14, 2012, 12:20:04 AM9/14/12
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I can't decide between "let's not rock the boat" and "don't
look a gift horse in the mouth".
look a gift horse in the mouth".
Lance Marput
Sep 14, 2012, 9:35:03 AM9/14/12
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he's probably on a couch in the garage watching Kevin
Macdonald's new documentary on Bob Marley....over and over
and over. It's now out on dvd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ7U_3bJoBk
peter mc
mdsc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZem_MziKeI
Macdonald's new documentary on Bob Marley....over and over
and over. It's now out on dvd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ7U_3bJoBk
peter mc
mdsc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZem_MziKeI
N8
Sep 14, 2012, 10:05:03 AM9/14/12
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Wasn't there an offer for him to never post again for $1000?
DJ
Sep 14, 2012, 10:55:04 AM9/14/12
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N8 wrote on Fri, 14 September 2012 10:00
contributed.
> Wasn't there an offer for him to never post again for
> $1000?
Someone should have started a crowdtilt for that. I'd have
> $1000?
contributed.
Euh
Sep 14, 2012, 4:35:03 PM9/14/12
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DJ wrote on Fri, 14 September 2012 07:51
> N8 wrote on Fri, 14 September 2012 10:00
> > Wasn't there an offer for him to never post again
> > for $1000?
>
>
> Someone should have started a crowdtilt for that. I'd
> have contributed.
I'm willing to post less for a similar fee.
> > Wasn't there an offer for him to never post again
> > for $1000?
>
>
> Someone should have started a crowdtilt for that. I'd
> have contributed.
disc...@yahoo.com
Sep 14, 2012, 11:51:34 PM9/14/12
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sean
jaknap
Sep 15, 2012, 1:36:00 PM9/15/12
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Reggie Fanelli
Sep 15, 2012, 3:36:01 PM9/15/12
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> Wasn't there an offer for him to never post again for $1000?
--yeah, i think it was that guy lance marmot....
doubt he'd pay toad after not paying for his lost kenny dobyns
wager....
mvuong
Sep 15, 2012, 4:45:08 PM9/15/12
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Reggie Fanelli wrote on Sat, 15 September 2012 12:36
> >
> --yeah, i think it was that guy lance marmot....
> doubt he'd pay toad after not paying for his lost kenny
> dobyns
> wager....
Has he seriously still not paid that?
> --yeah, i think it was that guy lance marmot....
> doubt he'd pay toad after not paying for his lost kenny
> dobyns
> wager....
mgd.mitch
Sep 16, 2012, 1:05:06 PM9/16/12
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mvuong wrote on Sat, 15 September 2012 16:43
bad reputation at too much risk of improving, so he welched.
It was a win-lose-lose outcome. Kenny wins with more
publicity, Lance loses by cements his stupidity in the
ground, and kids lose $50.
> Has he seriously still not paid that?
Nope. He decided giving money to children put Kenny Dobyn's
bad reputation at too much risk of improving, so he welched.
It was a win-lose-lose outcome. Kenny wins with more
publicity, Lance loses by cements his stupidity in the
ground, and kids lose $50.
Lance Marput
Sep 17, 2012, 11:15:05 AM9/17/12
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ya'll is lying...i paid more than owed due to dobyns
bringing a third party into the
scenario.
i pawn u all every time u bring it up.
only Toad leber welched ....on the other dobyns hof bet.
them is the facts.
out of the office today.
peter mc
mdsc
bringing a third party into the
scenario.
i pawn u all every time u bring it up.
only Toad leber welched ....on the other dobyns hof bet.
them is the facts.
out of the office today.
peter mc
mdsc
Bobus
Sep 17, 2012, 11:30:04 AM9/17/12
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Who was that third party again? Was it the NRA? KKK? WUFF
camp?
Can someone refresh my memory?
And it's pwn, not pawn, derived from "own".
As in, fan, mitch and mvuong be pwn'ing yo' ass in this
debate...
camp?
Can someone refresh my memory?
And it's pwn, not pawn, derived from "own".
As in, fan, mitch and mvuong be pwn'ing yo' ass in this
debate...
Lance Marput
Sep 17, 2012, 11:40:39 AM9/17/12
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donyns brought in 3rd party wily veteran move and i pawned
him.
toad leber simply backed out of the bet months down the
road.
peter mc
mdsc
him.
toad leber simply backed out of the bet months down the
road.
peter mc
mdsc
thefan
Sep 17, 2012, 2:40:06 PM9/17/12
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some men you just can't reach
mgd.mitch
Sep 17, 2012, 3:10:06 PM9/17/12
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Lance Marput wrote on Mon, 17 September 2012 11:40
And his wily veteran moved worked perfectly. He came out
looking better and made you look like the morally bankrupt
individual you are.
> donyns brought in 3rd party wily veteran move and i
> pawned him.
you can't even slang correctly.
> pawned him.
And his wily veteran moved worked perfectly. He came out
looking better and made you look like the morally bankrupt
individual you are.
pacemaker
Sep 17, 2012, 3:45:04 PM9/17/12
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It is pretty obvious.
Toad is at home admiring the Kenny Dobyns he got from the
pawn shop. He has had no time to post.
Meanwhile, after getting $50 and a 97 g Frisbee for pawning
Dobyns, still no check for the kids.
Toad is at home admiring the Kenny Dobyns he got from the
pawn shop. He has had no time to post.
Meanwhile, after getting $50 and a 97 g Frisbee for pawning
Dobyns, still no check for the kids.
Lance Marput
Sep 18, 2012, 9:50:04 AM9/18/12
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Hey Mitch,
Let's start at the very beginning
A very good place to start
When you sing you begin with do,re,mi
My bet with Kenny originated between 2 parties not 3. 2
parties not 3.
If you recall correctly...you'll remember I met him halfway
on his outlandish Demand.... and sent Ultimate Peace $50
cash. The remaining $50 owed him will be sent when / if he
sends along the proper address info.
If you are going to claim a stranger is "morally bankrupt"
you should have your ducks in a row (you also might wanna
include your name with such bad boy statements on a forum).
Both you and usa ultimate hall of famer Dobyns didn't have
your ducks in a row and you each questioned my honesty. Some
comical shit.
Have a good week on that end.
Let's start at the very beginning
A very good place to start
When you sing you begin with do,re,mi
My bet with Kenny originated between 2 parties not 3. 2
parties not 3.
If you recall correctly...you'll remember I met him halfway
on his outlandish Demand.... and sent Ultimate Peace $50
cash. The remaining $50 owed him will be sent when / if he
sends along the proper address info.
If you are going to claim a stranger is "morally bankrupt"
you should have your ducks in a row (you also might wanna
include your name with such bad boy statements on a forum).
Both you and usa ultimate hall of famer Dobyns didn't have
your ducks in a row and you each questioned my honesty. Some
comical shit.
Have a good week on that end.
Knappy
Sep 18, 2012, 10:00:04 AM9/18/12
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I am also questioning your integrity as well as your ability
to properly use slang.
Send the other $50 that you owe to a great charity & be done
with it.
to properly use slang.
Send the other $50 that you owe to a great charity & be done
with it.
Lance Marput
Sep 18, 2012, 10:05:03 AM9/18/12
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knappy, i'm going to spank you if you keep this up.
later
peter mc
later
peter mc
mgd.mitch
Sep 18, 2012, 10:15:05 AM9/18/12
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Lance Marput wrote on Tue, 18 September 2012 09:49
You made a bet. You lost. The money you owe was asked to
be given to a properly vetted charity relevant to the bet.
Asking the money be given to charity is not "outlandish."
Not paying the money is outlandish.
My ducks are clearly in a row, quacking at you to pay your
bills, you morally bankrupt deadbeat.
And yes, your emails to me get automatically placed in the
trash bin where they belong.
Mitch Dengler (or those who have damaged far more than one
too many brain cells to remember a simple name).
> Hey Mitch,
>
> Let's start at the very beginning
> A very good place to start
> When you sing you begin with do,re,mi
> My bet with Kenny originated between 2 parties not 3. 2
> parties not 3.
>
>
> If you recall correctly...you'll remember I met him
> halfway on his outlandish Demand.... and sent Ultimate
> Peace $50 cash. The remaining $50 owed him will be sent
> when / if he sends along the proper address info.
>
> If you are going to claim a stranger is "morally
> bankrupt" you should have your ducks in a row (you also
> might wanna include your name with such bad boy statements
> on a forum). Both you and usa ultimate hall of famer
> Dobyns didn't have your ducks in a row and you each
> questioned my honesty. Some comical shit.
I see your memory is as bad as your ethics.
>
> Let's start at the very beginning
> A very good place to start
> When you sing you begin with do,re,mi
> My bet with Kenny originated between 2 parties not 3. 2
> parties not 3.
>
>
> If you recall correctly...you'll remember I met him
> halfway on his outlandish Demand.... and sent Ultimate
> Peace $50 cash. The remaining $50 owed him will be sent
> when / if he sends along the proper address info.
>
> If you are going to claim a stranger is "morally
> bankrupt" you should have your ducks in a row (you also
> might wanna include your name with such bad boy statements
> on a forum). Both you and usa ultimate hall of famer
> Dobyns didn't have your ducks in a row and you each
> questioned my honesty. Some comical shit.
You made a bet. You lost. The money you owe was asked to
be given to a properly vetted charity relevant to the bet.
Asking the money be given to charity is not "outlandish."
Not paying the money is outlandish.
My ducks are clearly in a row, quacking at you to pay your
bills, you morally bankrupt deadbeat.
And yes, your emails to me get automatically placed in the
trash bin where they belong.
Mitch Dengler (or those who have damaged far more than one
too many brain cells to remember a simple name).
Lance Marput
Sep 18, 2012, 11:02:43 AM9/18/12
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mitch,
unless 3rd party payment is agreed upon when a bet is made,
3rd party payment is not the responsibility of the party who
loses.
Nobody is defending toad leber's move (backing out of the
bet completely bet) so i won't go into that.
I've gotten far more traction/promotion out of this for
Ultimate Peace and MDSC than I ever imagined. Many months
after the fact and you guys still wanna carry water for me?
It's like manna from heaven....yum yum yum.
Have a good week on that end.
unless 3rd party payment is agreed upon when a bet is made,
3rd party payment is not the responsibility of the party who
loses.
Nobody is defending toad leber's move (backing out of the
bet completely bet) so i won't go into that.
I've gotten far more traction/promotion out of this for
Ultimate Peace and MDSC than I ever imagined. Many months
after the fact and you guys still wanna carry water for me?
It's like manna from heaven....yum yum yum.
Have a good week on that end.
Bobus
Sep 18, 2012, 11:20:04 AM9/18/12
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Lance Marput wrote on Tue, 18 September 2012 11:00
I think I know now...
It's the end where people have integrity and pay their bets.
Am I right? Am I right?
Come join us on this end, etc.
> Have a good week on that end.
I've always wondered what "end" you were referring to. But
I think I know now...
It's the end where people have integrity and pay their bets.
Am I right? Am I right?
Come join us on this end, etc.
thefan
Sep 18, 2012, 11:35:04 AM9/18/12
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Quote:
does this Kenny dude think he is? send the money I owe you
to a non profit charity that supports ultimate and spirit
AND kids? it's crazy. Outlandish, I tell you. who does
that? "hey dude, you could just pay me the money you owe
but I'd rather give it to kids." kids!?! kids who play
ultimate? in impoverished 3rd world countries? you have
got to be kidding me.
oo, i bet you want me to use the paypal, don't you? well,
mr HOF big boy, i've got a whole pile of stamps here. not
the forever kind either. these things are going to be a
huge hassle when the USPS raises their postage rates again.
i mean, what do i do? go buy a bunch of penny stamps. or 2
cent stamps. what is this, the 1800s? where do i find a 2
cent stamp? hell, where do i find 2 cents? it weighs more
than it's worth anyways.
listen, i have a very important archive here. i have reams
and reams of paper announcements about guts tournaments and
freestyle disc competitions. flyers for concerts with
frisbee catching dogs. this stuff doesn't microfiche
itself. shit, by the time i'm done microfiche machines will
be relics. then i'll have to scan it all again onto the
interweb.
know what? fuk it. i'm going down to the pwn shop to sell
all this stuff. see who's been pawned now kiddos. your
loss. i'll probably hit a little kid with one of these
whamos on the way.
and i've still got my $50.
> you'll remember I met him halfway on his outlandish
> Demand....
this really hits at the crux of the matter. who the hell
> Demand....
does this Kenny dude think he is? send the money I owe you
to a non profit charity that supports ultimate and spirit
AND kids? it's crazy. Outlandish, I tell you. who does
that? "hey dude, you could just pay me the money you owe
but I'd rather give it to kids." kids!?! kids who play
ultimate? in impoverished 3rd world countries? you have
got to be kidding me.
oo, i bet you want me to use the paypal, don't you? well,
mr HOF big boy, i've got a whole pile of stamps here. not
the forever kind either. these things are going to be a
huge hassle when the USPS raises their postage rates again.
i mean, what do i do? go buy a bunch of penny stamps. or 2
cent stamps. what is this, the 1800s? where do i find a 2
cent stamp? hell, where do i find 2 cents? it weighs more
than it's worth anyways.
listen, i have a very important archive here. i have reams
and reams of paper announcements about guts tournaments and
freestyle disc competitions. flyers for concerts with
frisbee catching dogs. this stuff doesn't microfiche
itself. shit, by the time i'm done microfiche machines will
be relics. then i'll have to scan it all again onto the
interweb.
know what? fuk it. i'm going down to the pwn shop to sell
all this stuff. see who's been pawned now kiddos. your
loss. i'll probably hit a little kid with one of these
whamos on the way.
and i've still got my $50.
mvuong
Sep 18, 2012, 12:25:03 PM9/18/12
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I think toad would have liked that this thread turned into a
hate on Lance Marput (or whatever his name is) session.
hate on Lance Marput (or whatever his name is) session.
Aguilar
Sep 18, 2012, 12:25:05 PM9/18/12
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Lance Marput
Sep 18, 2012, 12:45:05 PM9/18/12
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Yeah, pawning a hall of famer is touchy stuff with sports
fans.
i realized not giving into dobyns wishes would cause some
anger and confusion. People gave into dobyns antics on the
playing field for many moons. I never competed against him
but wasn't going to give into his antics here on rsd.
It wasn't the payment to UP which made it
outlandish....Ultimate Peace is a great cause. Here in the
states and overseas.
The fact that Dobyns wanted 3rd party payment was the
outlandish detail. And then he questioned my ethics for not
giving in,etc.
Anyway, Ultimate samwood cleared it up months ago (see
below).
Later,
Peter Mc
MDSC
ultimatesamwood - Feb 3, 2012 post.
Messages: 44
Registered: December 2008
Member
If we replaced "ultimate peace" with "UOA," would we still
defend Mr Dobbyns request of Mr Mc?
Or to take it further, what if we replaced "ultimate peace"
with "White Revolution," one of the more violent American
neo-Nazi groups.
This isn't Celebrity Jeopardy, and no one made/accepted the
wager on behalf of his favorite charity.
Unless otherwise specified, the wages of a bet go from the
losing party to the winning party. What the winning party
chooses to do with those wages is that party's choice.
Mr McCarthy isn't necessarily "wrong" in insisting to send
the money to Mr Dobbyns. But he is losing in the court of
public opinion. (Not because he's failing to pay up a la
Toad, but based on the fact that there is universal support
for ultimate peace.)
fans.
i realized not giving into dobyns wishes would cause some
anger and confusion. People gave into dobyns antics on the
playing field for many moons. I never competed against him
but wasn't going to give into his antics here on rsd.
It wasn't the payment to UP which made it
outlandish....Ultimate Peace is a great cause. Here in the
states and overseas.
The fact that Dobyns wanted 3rd party payment was the
outlandish detail. And then he questioned my ethics for not
giving in,etc.
Anyway, Ultimate samwood cleared it up months ago (see
below).
Later,
Peter Mc
MDSC
ultimatesamwood - Feb 3, 2012 post.
Messages: 44
Registered: December 2008
Member
If we replaced "ultimate peace" with "UOA," would we still
defend Mr Dobbyns request of Mr Mc?
Or to take it further, what if we replaced "ultimate peace"
with "White Revolution," one of the more violent American
neo-Nazi groups.
This isn't Celebrity Jeopardy, and no one made/accepted the
wager on behalf of his favorite charity.
Unless otherwise specified, the wages of a bet go from the
losing party to the winning party. What the winning party
chooses to do with those wages is that party's choice.
Mr McCarthy isn't necessarily "wrong" in insisting to send
the money to Mr Dobbyns. But he is losing in the court of
public opinion. (Not because he's failing to pay up a la
Toad, but based on the fact that there is universal support
for ultimate peace.)
thefan
Sep 18, 2012, 1:05:04 PM9/18/12
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oh, shit. here we go with "a guy i know who once placed a
bet and gave enough of a shit to offer his opinion sided
with me, so that settles it. never mind the equally
unqualified mob of voices telling me i'm lame. i've found
one voice of agreement. that's good enough for me."
Pete, i was at a stoplight the other day and there was this
dude with a message written on the back of an old real
estate sign. i'm pretty sure he was the former owner.
otherwise, how'd he get the sign. anyways, he could
definitely write. and his spelling was, well, it was close.
i digress. i asked him if he'd ever seen a dollar and
since he had, i figure he was as close to an expert on
wagers as any of the clowns you parade out on here. he said
you're a loser for not paying what you owe. then i gave
him one of my BOGO coupons to Moe's.
bet and gave enough of a shit to offer his opinion sided
with me, so that settles it. never mind the equally
unqualified mob of voices telling me i'm lame. i've found
one voice of agreement. that's good enough for me."
Pete, i was at a stoplight the other day and there was this
dude with a message written on the back of an old real
estate sign. i'm pretty sure he was the former owner.
otherwise, how'd he get the sign. anyways, he could
definitely write. and his spelling was, well, it was close.
i digress. i asked him if he'd ever seen a dollar and
since he had, i figure he was as close to an expert on
wagers as any of the clowns you parade out on here. he said
you're a loser for not paying what you owe. then i gave
him one of my BOGO coupons to Moe's.
mgd.mitch
Sep 18, 2012, 1:35:05 PM9/18/12
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Stupid people don't understand irony is not something they
should be f'ing with.
Lance McD'bag doesn't like KD because of the way he played,
his lack of spirit. He played ultimate very well, but
didn't follow the generally accepted ethics.
So here, McD'bag lost a bet, and by the rules, doesn't need
to follow any sort of 3rd party payment, but ethically,
should pay up since he isn't funding any sort of Nazi party
and the money goes to a good cause.
Thus, we clearly draw the logically sound conclusion that
Peter is in fact the morally bankrupt individual we say he
is.
Also, since Peter wants to ignore spirit/ethics/etc, he owes
KD the full $100 since the 3rd party payment means nothing
in his own (useless) mind.
Not to mention that people pointing out McD'bags lack of
ethics doesn't mean they support KD or not, just that money
is owed and the requested charitable donation is a
completely reasonably payment.
Pay your bills, deadbeat.
should be f'ing with.
Lance McD'bag doesn't like KD because of the way he played,
his lack of spirit. He played ultimate very well, but
didn't follow the generally accepted ethics.
So here, McD'bag lost a bet, and by the rules, doesn't need
to follow any sort of 3rd party payment, but ethically,
should pay up since he isn't funding any sort of Nazi party
and the money goes to a good cause.
Thus, we clearly draw the logically sound conclusion that
Peter is in fact the morally bankrupt individual we say he
is.
Also, since Peter wants to ignore spirit/ethics/etc, he owes
KD the full $100 since the 3rd party payment means nothing
in his own (useless) mind.
Not to mention that people pointing out McD'bags lack of
ethics doesn't mean they support KD or not, just that money
is owed and the requested charitable donation is a
completely reasonably payment.
Pay your bills, deadbeat.
Knappy
Sep 18, 2012, 1:55:04 PM9/18/12
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-18765015
Bet was paid to the third party (Oxfam) even after the guy
who placed the bet died.
Speaking of dead, don't be a deadbeat.
Bet was paid to the third party (Oxfam) even after the guy
who placed the bet died.
Speaking of dead, don't be a deadbeat.
Lance Marput
Sep 18, 2012, 2:00:04 PM9/18/12
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bring on the love gents.
later,
Peter Mc
later,
Peter Mc
Lance Marput
Sep 18, 2012, 2:05:03 PM9/18/12
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$50 was paid to UP. The other money is waiting for
dobyns,etc.
Mitch Dengler has control issues in his tissues. Just
saying.
Peter Mc
MDSC
dobyns,etc.
Mitch Dengler has control issues in his tissues. Just
saying.
Peter Mc
MDSC
thefan
Sep 18, 2012, 2:20:04 PM9/18/12
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Quote:
maybe this explains more than a cursory glance would
suggest.
> bring on the love gents.
love?
maybe this explains more than a cursory glance would
suggest.
Reggie Fanelli
Sep 18, 2012, 3:26:31 PM9/18/12
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> Toad Leber sure hasn't spewed much... if anything...on rsd
> in the last few months. And not a peep out of anyone on the
> subject? what the heck...
~~~~~~~~
---i bet....no one....any money...that toad is working to secure
ownership of a pro league franchise or ownership of a new rival
league....and that he's keeping it all on the DL......that's down
low...for those with slang difficulty.
Lance Marput
Sep 18, 2012, 4:05:07 PM9/18/12
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mr bobus....
of the slang.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pawned
And for our man flint, Mr. Mitch Dengler. Thanks for finally
coming around and admitting I was playing by the rules (your
last post).
I had confidence that you would Eventually. It just took a
few months longer than i expected.
I'm guessing you are quicker to do so on the ultimate
playing field (and far less vitriolic).
Peter Mc
MDSC
"And it's pwn, not pawn, derived from "own".
As in, fan, mitch and mvuong be pwn'ing yo' ass in this
debate..."
Hey Bobus, i enjoy chess. So i go with the "pawned" version
As in, fan, mitch and mvuong be pwn'ing yo' ass in this
debate..."
of the slang.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pawned
And for our man flint, Mr. Mitch Dengler. Thanks for finally
coming around and admitting I was playing by the rules (your
last post).
I had confidence that you would Eventually. It just took a
few months longer than i expected.
I'm guessing you are quicker to do so on the ultimate
playing field (and far less vitriolic).
Peter Mc
MDSC
mgd.mitch
Sep 18, 2012, 4:15:10 PM9/18/12
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Lance Marput wrote on Tue, 18 September 2012 16:02
You still owe the money if you consider yourself a moral
person. However, you have chosen to be a complete d'bag.
Stealing money from children... quite the class act you
are.
You are playing by the technical rules, much like some of
the rich of this country that abuse tax loopholes to avoid
their responsibility. Quite the company you keep,
slimeball.
and yes, i am less vitriolic on the ultimate field because
my opponents aren't generally unspirited a-holes that steal
from children.
Grow a pair, get some ethics, and pay the $50 you ethically
owe the kids.
person. However, you have chosen to be a complete d'bag.
Stealing money from children... quite the class act you
are.
You are playing by the technical rules, much like some of
the rich of this country that abuse tax loopholes to avoid
their responsibility. Quite the company you keep,
slimeball.
and yes, i am less vitriolic on the ultimate field because
my opponents aren't generally unspirited a-holes that steal
from children.
Grow a pair, get some ethics, and pay the $50 you ethically
owe the kids.
thefan
Sep 18, 2012, 4:20:04 PM9/18/12
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Quote:
bunch of people accusing you of being a deadbeat bet dodger
as "love" and are going with the chess version of slang.
keep it coming. i've got a much clearer picture of the
fellow on the other end developing.
couple this with the "log watching" video and i feel like i
really know you.
> So i go with the "pawned" version of the slang.
man, this has been a real learning day. you refer to a
bunch of people accusing you of being a deadbeat bet dodger
as "love" and are going with the chess version of slang.
keep it coming. i've got a much clearer picture of the
fellow on the other end developing.
couple this with the "log watching" video and i feel like i
really know you.
Lance Marput
Sep 18, 2012, 4:27:44 PM9/18/12
to
dobyns tried twisting the rules and i called him on it. It's
that simple.
I met him 1/2 way by sending half the $100 bet to the
Ultimate Peace folks (in the form of cash). The rest is for
him when he wants it.
You dragged my name around countless times on this going
back several months.....but finally admitted that i was
playing by the rules. Shame on you,etc.
You are obviously an asset to the sport. You just sorta
biffed it in this scenario.
Later,
Peter Mc
MDSC
that simple.
I met him 1/2 way by sending half the $100 bet to the
Ultimate Peace folks (in the form of cash). The rest is for
him when he wants it.
You dragged my name around countless times on this going
back several months.....but finally admitted that i was
playing by the rules. Shame on you,etc.
You are obviously an asset to the sport. You just sorta
biffed it in this scenario.
Later,
Peter Mc
MDSC
Bulb
Sep 18, 2012, 10:40:04 PM9/18/12
to
Lance Marput wrote on Tue, 18 September 2012 16:25
Were you wronged in some way? What is the injustice? You
took the time to sent $50 to UP, and you owed Dobyns another
$50, so what would the downside have been to just sending
$100 to UP and calling it a day?
> dobyns tried twisting the rules and i called him on it.
> It's that simple.
But WHY did you call him on it? What harm did it do you?
> It's that simple.
Were you wronged in some way? What is the injustice? You
took the time to sent $50 to UP, and you owed Dobyns another
$50, so what would the downside have been to just sending
$100 to UP and calling it a day?
Lance Marput
Sep 19, 2012, 10:35:04 PM9/19/12
to
why? cuz thats the way i roll Bulb.
Bobus
Sep 19, 2012, 11:20:05 PM9/19/12
to
At this point I'm not convinced you even paid the $50 to
UP...
Bulb
Sep 20, 2012, 10:00:04 AM9/20/12
to
Lance Marput wrote on Wed, 19 September 2012 22:34
how you roll?
> why? cuz thats the way i roll Bulb.
..being a stickler for rules so you can cop out on debts is
how you roll?
Lance Marput
Sep 20, 2012, 10:15:04 AM9/20/12
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Bobus dude....
you are confused and haven't read the original thread from ~
Feb 2012.
dobyns went outside the rules of betting...but i I met him
halfway and sent $50 to UP. The remaining $50 is here when
he wants it.
My word is good as gold. This is one of the reasons MDSC is
what it is. A successful project in it's 17th year.
we've beat this horse so much we'll probably get a cease and
decist notice from PETA by the end of the work week.
have a good day on that end anonymous guy.
Peter Mc
MDSC
you are confused and haven't read the original thread from ~
Feb 2012.
dobyns went outside the rules of betting...but i I met him
halfway and sent $50 to UP. The remaining $50 is here when
he wants it.
My word is good as gold. This is one of the reasons MDSC is
what it is. A successful project in it's 17th year.
we've beat this horse so much we'll probably get a cease and
decist notice from PETA by the end of the work week.
have a good day on that end anonymous guy.
Peter Mc
MDSC
thefan
Sep 20, 2012, 12:50:04 PM9/20/12
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Quote:
to bed by posting a link to the "rules of betting" to which
you have referred more than once. if only we had access to
those, instead of access to your anecdotal tales of speaking
with one random dip stick after another who "agrees" with
you.
so, for your next post (from that end, of course) will
include a link to the rules of betting, right?
> dobyns went outside the rules of betting..
just imagine how easy it would be for you to put this thing
to bed by posting a link to the "rules of betting" to which
you have referred more than once. if only we had access to
those, instead of access to your anecdotal tales of speaking
with one random dip stick after another who "agrees" with
you.
so, for your next post (from that end, of course) will
include a link to the rules of betting, right?
Message has been deleted
ultimatep...@gmail.com
Sep 20, 2012, 1:09:42 PM9/20/12
to
Woops.
Bulb
Sep 20, 2012, 4:28:40 PM9/20/12
to
Lance Marput wrote on Thu, 20 September 2012 10:10
because Dobyns broke a meaningless and probably made up
rule, is hardly meeting him halfway.
Lance Marput wrote on Thu, 20 September 2012 10:10
acronym MDSC:
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MDSC
In other news, PADA is #3! Only out of 6, but hey, I'll
take it.
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/pada
Although I would definitely be interested in attending the
Personal Aircraft Design Academy. Can't believe it's all
the way at #6.
> dobyns went outside the rules of betting...but i I met
> him halfway and sent $50 to UP.
Hoarding money so less fortunate kids can't have it, just
> him halfway and sent $50 to UP.
because Dobyns broke a meaningless and probably made up
rule, is hardly meeting him halfway.
Lance Marput wrote on Thu, 20 September 2012 10:10
> My word is good as gold. This is one of the reasons MDSC
> is what it is. A successful project in it's 17th year.
So successful, it's now the 13th most popular result for the
> is what it is. A successful project in it's 17th year.
acronym MDSC:
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MDSC
In other news, PADA is #3! Only out of 6, but hey, I'll
take it.
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/pada
Although I would definitely be interested in attending the
Personal Aircraft Design Academy. Can't believe it's all
the way at #6.
Lance Marput
Sep 20, 2012, 4:45:08 PM9/20/12
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You guys are such chuckle heads....
But have a good week on that end anyway.
later,
Peter Mc
MDSC
But have a good week on that end anyway.
later,
Peter Mc
MDSC
mgd.mitch
Sep 20, 2012, 5:15:03 PM9/20/12
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Bulb wrote on Thu, 20 September 2012 16:27
party payment is either invalid or valid. You know, gotta
follow the absolute letter of unofficial rules rather than
just being a stand up guy and following the spirit of them.
> Hoarding money so less fortunate kids can't have it,
> just because Dobyns broke a meaningless and probably made
> up rule, is hardly meeting him halfway.
Peter either owes KD $100 in cash or owes UP $50 since 3rd
> just because Dobyns broke a meaningless and probably made
> up rule, is hardly meeting him halfway.
party payment is either invalid or valid. You know, gotta
follow the absolute letter of unofficial rules rather than
just being a stand up guy and following the spirit of them.
Lance Marput
Sep 20, 2012, 5:30:04 PM9/20/12
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hey mitch,
If dobyns was right...and i was wrong ...don't you think
he'd post an avalanche of his purple prose and say so?
Instead all he did was make a personal attack and then
disappear.
I beat dobyns at his own game and you guys are still having
temper tantrums many months later. Some funny shit. Of
course Todd Leber walked away from the bet completely 6 or 7
months after it was made.
Todd Leber owes me a $100 and I owe Dobyns $50. Yes, $50 was
sent to Ultimate Peace months ago. Dobyn's knows I'll pay
him.
He just hasn't sent the needed info. (mailing address).
Peter Mc
MDSC
Anyway
If dobyns was right...and i was wrong ...don't you think
he'd post an avalanche of his purple prose and say so?
Instead all he did was make a personal attack and then
disappear.
I beat dobyns at his own game and you guys are still having
temper tantrums many months later. Some funny shit. Of
course Todd Leber walked away from the bet completely 6 or 7
months after it was made.
Todd Leber owes me a $100 and I owe Dobyns $50. Yes, $50 was
sent to Ultimate Peace months ago. Dobyn's knows I'll pay
him.
He just hasn't sent the needed info. (mailing address).
Peter Mc
MDSC
Anyway
adam.tinker
Sep 20, 2012, 6:15:04 PM9/20/12
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I hate that I'm getting into this, but I thought you had his
address? Reference this post, made by you in January of this
year:
http://www.rsdnospam.com/index.php?t=msg&th=36971&goto=109119&#msg_109119
I'll quote here, also:
Lance Marput wrote on Thu, 05 January 2012 17:53
> calm down nancys...i have his address...hell get cash
> this month.
>
> Later,
> peter mc
> mdsc
Did you have his address, then lose it? Cue lame jokes about
archiving.
address? Reference this post, made by you in January of this
year:
http://www.rsdnospam.com/index.php?t=msg&th=36971&goto=109119&#msg_109119
I'll quote here, also:
Lance Marput wrote on Thu, 05 January 2012 17:53
> calm down nancys...i have his address...hell get cash
> this month.
>
> Later,
> peter mc
> mdsc
Did you have his address, then lose it? Cue lame jokes about
archiving.
Jed
Sep 20, 2012, 7:32:48 PM9/20/12
to Lance Marput
On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:45:06 PM UTC-4, Lance Marput wrote:
> ultimatesamwood - Feb 3, 2012 post.
>
>...
> ultimatesamwood - Feb 3, 2012 post.
>
>
> If we replaced "ultimate peace" with "UOA," would we still defend Mr Dobbyns request of Mr Mc?
>
>
>
> Or to take it further, what if we replaced "ultimate peace"
>
> with "White Revolution," one of the more violent American
>
> neo-Nazi groups.
>
Ultimate Sam Wood seems to think that McDbag might have grounds for his stance, if he considers Ultimate Peace to be a deplorable cause (akin to a violent American neo-Nazi groups). I guess that must be the case, since he considers the matter "cleared up".
> If we replaced "ultimate peace" with "UOA," would we still defend Mr Dobbyns request of Mr Mc?
>
>
>
> Or to take it further, what if we replaced "ultimate peace"
>
> with "White Revolution," one of the more violent American
>
> neo-Nazi groups.
>
cooper
Sep 20, 2012, 9:10:03 PM9/20/12
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Mike G:
Is this happening? Is Toad going for an AUDL franchise or a
new, rival league?
Lance M:
You can count me as another man that thinks you aren't
acting like one.
Is this happening? Is Toad going for an AUDL franchise or a
new, rival league?
Lance M:
You can count me as another man that thinks you aren't
acting like one.
Lance Marput
Sep 21, 2012, 9:25:04 AM9/21/12
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Adam T....
nope...i thought i had it at one point but KD had instead
sent me the address of Ultimate Peace (which i did use for
payment of half the bet owed). He hasn't sent me his mailing
address for the other $50.
Todd Leber definitely knows how to get in touch with me for
the $100 he owes me. His defense for walking out on the bet
was "that isn't what I meant to bet on"....when it was in
fact spelled out for him here on rsd.
You guys agreeing with KD's shenanigans seem to think "rules
are just for the little people."
Have a good work day on that end and please consider making
a donation to www.ultimatepeace.org
Peter Mc
MDSC
"Archiving disc sports since 1997."
nope...i thought i had it at one point but KD had instead
sent me the address of Ultimate Peace (which i did use for
payment of half the bet owed). He hasn't sent me his mailing
address for the other $50.
Todd Leber definitely knows how to get in touch with me for
the $100 he owes me. His defense for walking out on the bet
was "that isn't what I meant to bet on"....when it was in
fact spelled out for him here on rsd.
You guys agreeing with KD's shenanigans seem to think "rules
are just for the little people."
Have a good work day on that end and please consider making
a donation to www.ultimatepeace.org
Peter Mc
MDSC
"Archiving disc sports since 1997."
Lance Marput
Sep 21, 2012, 9:35:03 AM9/21/12
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Jed,
You have completely mis-read samwood's words. Neither he or
I are implying UltimatePeace.org is a deplorable cause. You
know this,etc.
Peter Mc
You have completely mis-read samwood's words. Neither he or
I are implying UltimatePeace.org is a deplorable cause. You
know this,etc.
Peter Mc
Reggie Fanelli
Sep 21, 2012, 9:38:12 AM9/21/12
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On Sep 20, 5:30 pm, Lance Marput <lancemar...@gmail.com> wrote:
---curiously...you post stupid crap like....'have a great week'....but
then immediately post again.
doesn't 'have a great week' sort of imply that you're going to shut
the fuck up for at least a week?
---curiously...you post stupid crap like....'have a great week'....but
then immediately post again.
doesn't 'have a great week' sort of imply that you're going to shut
the fuck up for at least a week?
Reggie Fanelli
Sep 21, 2012, 9:39:35 AM9/21/12
to
On Sep 20, 6:15 pm, adam.tinker <adam.tin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I hate that I'm getting into this, but I thought you had his
> address? Reference this post, made by you in January of this
> year:http://www.rsdnospam.com/index.php?t=msg&th=36971&goto=109119&#msg_10...
> I hate that I'm getting into this, but I thought you had his
> address? Reference this post, made by you in January of this
>
> I'll quote here, also:
>
> Lance Marput wrote on Thu, 05 January 2012 17:53
>
> > calm down nancys...i have his address...hell get cash
> > this month.
>
> > Later,
> > peter mc
> > mdsc
>
> Did you have his address, then lose it? Cue lame jokes about
> archiving.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I'll quote here, also:
>
> Lance Marput wrote on Thu, 05 January 2012 17:53
>
> > calm down nancys...i have his address...hell get cash
> > this month.
>
> > Later,
> > peter mc
> > mdsc
>
> Did you have his address, then lose it? Cue lame jokes about
> archiving.
---HELL...i'm going to applaud your posting of the quote rather than
just providing a line of blue text!
nice work!
and...quite a nice find in the archives!
Reggie Fanelli
Sep 21, 2012, 9:47:24 AM9/21/12
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On Sep 20, 9:10 pm, cooper <thundercats_ho2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mike G:
> Is this happening? Is Toad going for an AUDL franchise or a
> new, rival league?
~~~~~~~~
> Mike G:
> Is this happening? Is Toad going for an AUDL franchise or a
> new, rival league?
---hey...readers...this guy cooper is the namesake of an unstoppable
play taught at WUFF Camp.
'give me a name of a person NOT on your team'.......is how we name the
play at each camp.
i love teaching and getting a new name for this play every time a team
attends Camp....
i always picture them calling the play during a
game....."CALEB!"...then running the play....so that the next time
they call the play...."CALEB"...an opposing defender saying, based on
the previous time the play was run..."that's my man, i got him, this
is the guy cutting for the goal, someone help poach!"........and then
the play running to a totally different 'caleb'.....love it.
....it's never been stopped...never...ever....not yet.
Toad and the AUDL or a rival league?.......i have no idea. i just
thought it'd be a good post that might draw some interesting replies.
Reggie Fanelli
Sep 21, 2012, 9:49:28 AM9/21/12
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> "Archiving disc sports since 1997."
---i've been archiving disc sports since 91.......
Lance Marput
Sep 21, 2012, 10:00:07 AM9/21/12
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Since 1991? that's great Mike...
But unlike your private effort, MDSC is open to the public
and stored in a an actual archive/historical society.....not
gathering mold somewhere in your house. And will still be
here when you and I are feeding the worms a few decades from
now.
So consider donating your files to MDSC when your wife
eventually asks you to "get this crap out of the basement."
Peter Mc
MDSC
Columbia, MO
But unlike your private effort, MDSC is open to the public
and stored in a an actual archive/historical society.....not
gathering mold somewhere in your house. And will still be
here when you and I are feeding the worms a few decades from
now.
So consider donating your files to MDSC when your wife
eventually asks you to "get this crap out of the basement."
Peter Mc
MDSC
Columbia, MO
thefan
Sep 21, 2012, 10:05:03 AM9/21/12
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Quote:
betting"? why can't you send them out to us? post them?
did you not archive them?
how embarassing.
> You guys agreeing with KD's shenanigans seem to think
> "rules are just for the little people."
what rules? is this another reference to those "rules of
> "rules are just for the little people."
betting"? why can't you send them out to us? post them?
did you not archive them?
how embarassing.
Jed
Sep 21, 2012, 10:49:30 AM9/21/12
to Lance Marput
Lance Marput
Sep 21, 2012, 11:00:04 AM9/21/12
to
congrats appreciated Jed,
This could become the most memorable $100 bet in the sport
of ultimate.
Folklore is fun !
Where did euh groups go anyway? hmmmm
Later,
This could become the most memorable $100 bet in the sport
of ultimate.
Folklore is fun !
Where did euh groups go anyway? hmmmm
Later,
Reggie Fanelli
Sep 21, 2012, 11:35:06 AM9/21/12
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> This could become the most memorable $100 bet in the sport
> of ultimate.
---now...if you could do something worthwhile and memorable...or do
something that's worthwhile of being memorable...you'd be on to
something....something....equally stupid as yourself...but on to
something....
Lance Marput
Sep 21, 2012, 12:30:04 PM9/21/12
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Lance Marput
Sep 21, 2012, 1:00:04 PM9/21/12
to
not sure why that link didn't work....googling the below
caption will bring you to the original document in the MDSC
holdings.
>> Correspondence from Irv Kalb about the first
inter-collegiate Ultimate Frisbee Game (WHAM-O
correspondence).
caption will bring you to the original document in the MDSC
holdings.
>> Correspondence from Irv Kalb about the first
inter-collegiate Ultimate Frisbee Game (WHAM-O
correspondence).
thefan
Sep 21, 2012, 1:20:04 PM9/21/12
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Quote:
keep referring to whilst defending your welching ways. the
rules that dobyns believes are just for the little people.
the rules you "called" him on.
post a link to that.
> not sure why that link didn't work
because it's not a link to the rules of betting that you
keep referring to whilst defending your welching ways. the
rules that dobyns believes are just for the little people.
the rules you "called" him on.
post a link to that.
Lance Marput
Sep 21, 2012, 1:45:04 PM9/21/12
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video of Jimmy the fan Holtzman fighting the good fight....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjoMQJf5vKI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjoMQJf5vKI
Knappy
Sep 21, 2012, 2:40:06 PM9/21/12
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Peter/Lance/Kristina dentina, etc.,
Out of curiosity, how many people have to call you out for
being wrong before you'll admit the possibility that what
you did is wrong?
I'm sort of serious here -- you're like the asshole on the
field who claims he was "in" even when a dozen bystanders
tell him he's out of bounds. Stubbornly clinging to his
call, even when a team mate points to his footprint in the
mud on the other side of the line.
I had no issues with you before this whole Dobyns & debt
debacle began. I think you remain stubbornly entrenched in
your opinion because you just don't like Dobyns, even though
you admitted that you never once played against him or met
him in person. Before all this, you seemed like a harmless,
goofy denizen of RSD. Now, I think you're a douchebag.
Admit you're out. Drop the disc. Let's move on.
Out of curiosity, how many people have to call you out for
being wrong before you'll admit the possibility that what
you did is wrong?
I'm sort of serious here -- you're like the asshole on the
field who claims he was "in" even when a dozen bystanders
tell him he's out of bounds. Stubbornly clinging to his
call, even when a team mate points to his footprint in the
mud on the other side of the line.
I had no issues with you before this whole Dobyns & debt
debacle began. I think you remain stubbornly entrenched in
your opinion because you just don't like Dobyns, even though
you admitted that you never once played against him or met
him in person. Before all this, you seemed like a harmless,
goofy denizen of RSD. Now, I think you're a douchebag.
Admit you're out. Drop the disc. Let's move on.
Tony Hat
Sep 21, 2012, 2:50:05 PM9/21/12
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Knappy wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 11:36
> I had no issues with you before this whole Dobyns & debt
> debacle began. I think you remain stubbornly entrenched in
> your opinion because you just don't like Dobyns, even
> though you admitted that you never once played against him
> or met him in person. Before all this, you seemed like a
> harmless, goofy denizen of RSD. Now, I think you're a
> douchebag.
Exactly how I feel.
> debacle began. I think you remain stubbornly entrenched in
> your opinion because you just don't like Dobyns, even
> though you admitted that you never once played against him
> or met him in person. Before all this, you seemed like a
> harmless, goofy denizen of RSD. Now, I think you're a
> douchebag.
Lance Marput
Sep 21, 2012, 3:55:08 PM9/21/12
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knappy...
I totally understand your observations....
But....the legal expert I spoke with, in person, said my
instincts were indeed Correct. When it comes to betting, one
is not obligated to pay a 3rd party unless it was agreed to
when the bet was made. Period.
This is essentially what ultimatesamwood noted many months
ago. Nobody has really challenged Sam's input.
Dobyns went a grandiose route with his win...With his "When
Dobyns wins, Ultimate Peace wins!" thread. He was assuming i
wouldn't do what I'm doing, calling him out on an error in
his ways.
So i dragged my feet but agreed to pay half the $100 bet to
Ultimate Peace (A very worth organization). That $$ was sent
months ago. KD can have the other $50 when he contacts me
with mailing address,etc.
You are correct though, I'm only sticking to my guns due to
the dobyns factor. fighting fire with fire you might say. Or
out idioting the idiots as i like to say.
I've enjoyed ultimate and other disc sports for over 3
decades. This is just a protest to him getting into the hall
of fame.
Hell, the sports governing body doesn't even believe he
truly belongs there.
In short, KD essentially did a "clap spike" and I called him
on it. Now THAT is a good analogy.
Have a good weekend on that end.
Sincerely,
Peter Mc
MDSC
I totally understand your observations....
But....the legal expert I spoke with, in person, said my
instincts were indeed Correct. When it comes to betting, one
is not obligated to pay a 3rd party unless it was agreed to
when the bet was made. Period.
This is essentially what ultimatesamwood noted many months
ago. Nobody has really challenged Sam's input.
Dobyns went a grandiose route with his win...With his "When
Dobyns wins, Ultimate Peace wins!" thread. He was assuming i
wouldn't do what I'm doing, calling him out on an error in
his ways.
So i dragged my feet but agreed to pay half the $100 bet to
Ultimate Peace (A very worth organization). That $$ was sent
months ago. KD can have the other $50 when he contacts me
with mailing address,etc.
You are correct though, I'm only sticking to my guns due to
the dobyns factor. fighting fire with fire you might say. Or
out idioting the idiots as i like to say.
I've enjoyed ultimate and other disc sports for over 3
decades. This is just a protest to him getting into the hall
of fame.
Hell, the sports governing body doesn't even believe he
truly belongs there.
In short, KD essentially did a "clap spike" and I called him
on it. Now THAT is a good analogy.
Have a good weekend on that end.
Sincerely,
Peter Mc
MDSC
thefan
Sep 21, 2012, 4:00:05 PM9/21/12
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Quote:
an animal. dead or alive.
> video of Jimmy the fan Holtzman fighting the good
> fight....
everyone knows i don't wear ties and would never, ever hit
> fight....
an animal. dead or alive.
thefan
Sep 21, 2012, 4:05:04 PM9/21/12
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AND everyone knows you're a welcher.
you know, for a second there, i thought i might be clicking
on a link to the rules of betting.
for $50, i bet you could buy a website and post some rules
of betting that vindicate your welching.
you know, for a second there, i thought i might be clicking
on a link to the rules of betting.
for $50, i bet you could buy a website and post some rules
of betting that vindicate your welching.
Knappy
Sep 21, 2012, 4:50:10 PM9/21/12
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Peter, I'm probably wasting my time here. Regardless, since
this link somehow escaped mention from you, here it is
again:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-18765015
The betting agency had to make good on a 100K (pounds) bet
to a third party charity, because the original bettor
stipulated that in his will.
In essence, he did the same thing as Kenny: don't pay me
(or, in his case, my heirs), pay my charity. And the betting
agency paid 100K to Oxfam.
Explain that to your anonymous legal scholar &
Ultimatesamwood & let me know what they say.
In your view, f the HOF voters*, f the vast majority of RSD
posters, f the fact that you can't cite legal precedent for
your BS claim about third party betting, f everyone because
you like to "out idiot the idiots".
Mission accomplished. You're king of the idiots.
*Full HOF blurb is below, emphasis on the paragraph that
Peter claims as justification for hating a person he neither
met nor played against
Kenny Dobyns has been called the most intense competitor to
ever play the game, a force of nature, and a living legend.
During a twenty year career that spanned the 80s and 90s,
Dobyns displayed an indomitable will to win, as well as, a
penchant for making spectacular plays seem routine. As the
soul of the NYNY dynasty, he helped lead the team to six
National and four World championships, displaying a singular
ability to step up when the game was on the line. But he was
more than a physical marvel.
Dobyns had brains as well as brawn. He was an innovator in
ultimate strategy and tactics, incorporating a system of
structured, set-play offenses, complicated, switching
defenses, and a serious training regimen that made NYNY
nearly unbeatable during their reign atop the sport. He was
a dedicated leader, inspiring teammates and opponents alike
with his passionate intensity and willingness to sacrifice
his body in order to make a play.
While the ferocity of Dobyns' competitive spirit has
prompted some to question his commitment to the Spirit of
the Game, he earned the respect of those who played against
him at the highest levels of competition by playing hard,
fair, and with tremendous heart. As one long-time rival put
it, Kenny never gave up. Not on a play. Not in a game.
Dobyns lives now in Pawling, NY, still finds the time to
play summer league, and is currently working to grow youth
involvement in ultimate through a new organization, DiscNY.
this link somehow escaped mention from you, here it is
again:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-18765015
The betting agency had to make good on a 100K (pounds) bet
to a third party charity, because the original bettor
stipulated that in his will.
In essence, he did the same thing as Kenny: don't pay me
(or, in his case, my heirs), pay my charity. And the betting
agency paid 100K to Oxfam.
Explain that to your anonymous legal scholar &
Ultimatesamwood & let me know what they say.
In your view, f the HOF voters*, f the vast majority of RSD
posters, f the fact that you can't cite legal precedent for
your BS claim about third party betting, f everyone because
you like to "out idiot the idiots".
Mission accomplished. You're king of the idiots.
*Full HOF blurb is below, emphasis on the paragraph that
Peter claims as justification for hating a person he neither
met nor played against
Kenny Dobyns has been called the most intense competitor to
ever play the game, a force of nature, and a living legend.
During a twenty year career that spanned the 80s and 90s,
Dobyns displayed an indomitable will to win, as well as, a
penchant for making spectacular plays seem routine. As the
soul of the NYNY dynasty, he helped lead the team to six
National and four World championships, displaying a singular
ability to step up when the game was on the line. But he was
more than a physical marvel.
Dobyns had brains as well as brawn. He was an innovator in
ultimate strategy and tactics, incorporating a system of
structured, set-play offenses, complicated, switching
defenses, and a serious training regimen that made NYNY
nearly unbeatable during their reign atop the sport. He was
a dedicated leader, inspiring teammates and opponents alike
with his passionate intensity and willingness to sacrifice
his body in order to make a play.
While the ferocity of Dobyns' competitive spirit has
prompted some to question his commitment to the Spirit of
the Game, he earned the respect of those who played against
him at the highest levels of competition by playing hard,
fair, and with tremendous heart. As one long-time rival put
it, Kenny never gave up. Not on a play. Not in a game.
Dobyns lives now in Pawling, NY, still finds the time to
play summer league, and is currently working to grow youth
involvement in ultimate through a new organization, DiscNY.
Lance Marput
Sep 21, 2012, 5:25:07 PM9/21/12
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If dobyns dies anytime soon knappy... I'll consider it
divine intervention and pocket the $$. He has of course had
Months to collect the remaining $50 dudeski.
I smell weekend.
later,
Peter Mc
MDSC
divine intervention and pocket the $$. He has of course had
Months to collect the remaining $50 dudeski.
I smell weekend.
later,
Peter Mc
MDSC
Euh
Sep 21, 2012, 7:05:07 PM9/21/12
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Jed wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 07:49
Did I ever say anything about it ? Maybe I did but I dont
remember. I dont do drugs, they do me.
remember. I dont do drugs, they do me.
Euh
Sep 21, 2012, 7:10:06 PM9/21/12
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Lance Marput wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 07:58
> Where did euh groups go anyway? hmmmm
Someone offered me 1000 $ to shup up......oops
Bulb
Sep 21, 2012, 7:25:06 PM9/21/12
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Lance Marput wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 15:51
organization an ERROR in his ways???
Regardless of whether it is because you lost a bet or not,
you owe Dobyns $50. It could be because you lost a bet, or
because you purchased something from him, or because he
spotted you $50 at a strip club. It doesn't matter anymore.
You owe the man, and he is asking you to give the money to
a charitable organization. He didn't "assume" anything
about what you would or wouldn't do, whether you'd "call him
out" for donating money to charity. And now, instead of
paying, you are sheepishly clinging onto your money like a
baby. Grow up, dude.
> Dobyns went a grandiose route with his win...With his
> "When Dobyns wins, Ultimate Peace wins!" thread. He was
> assuming i wouldn't do what I'm doing, calling him out on
> an error in his ways.
How the HELL is asking that a debt be given to a charitable
> "When Dobyns wins, Ultimate Peace wins!" thread. He was
> assuming i wouldn't do what I'm doing, calling him out on
> an error in his ways.
organization an ERROR in his ways???
Regardless of whether it is because you lost a bet or not,
you owe Dobyns $50. It could be because you lost a bet, or
because you purchased something from him, or because he
spotted you $50 at a strip club. It doesn't matter anymore.
You owe the man, and he is asking you to give the money to
a charitable organization. He didn't "assume" anything
about what you would or wouldn't do, whether you'd "call him
out" for donating money to charity. And now, instead of
paying, you are sheepishly clinging onto your money like a
baby. Grow up, dude.
Reggie Fanelli
Sep 21, 2012, 10:15:11 PM9/21/12
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> I'm sort of serious here -- you're like the asshole on the
> field who claims he was "in" even when a dozen bystanders
> tell him he's out of bounds.
---sorry to interrupt......
is the guy in your story saying.......'it's my call. it's my call.
it's my call.'?
Reggie Fanelli
Sep 21, 2012, 10:18:14 PM9/21/12
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Before all this, you seemed like a harmless,
> goofy denizen of RSD. Now, I think you're a douchebag.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> goofy denizen of RSD. Now, I think you're a douchebag.
---it only took me one single post from the guy about 8 years ago.
how did you not notice sooner?
please everyone......come on.
Reggie Fanelli
Sep 21, 2012, 10:28:52 PM9/21/12
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> But....the legal expert I spoke with
---seriously?
what sort of person with a disability are you?
can your job coach reply for you?
Reggie Fanelli
Sep 22, 2012, 8:27:07 AM9/22/12
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On Sep 21, 10:00 am, Lance Marput <lancemar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Peter Mc
~~~~
--hey dingle dork,
do you have anything 'dobyns' in your load of crap flyers?
> Peter Mc
~~~~
--hey dingle dork,
do you have anything 'dobyns' in your load of crap flyers?
Lance Marput
Sep 22, 2012, 10:10:04 AM9/22/12
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i heart Bulb
( t shirt idea )
kdisin...@gmail.com
Sep 22, 2012, 11:02:17 AM9/22/12
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Not sure why anyone hasn't posted this yet, all information is from the public domain and freely available on the web (check the phone books).
Kenny Dobyns
24 Birch Ter
Pawling, NY 12564-2324
When Muppet sends the check, do NOT cash it. Sign it directly over to UP and send to them (take a picture so he knows exactly how it was done in case there was any question about how to do it).
You have the mailing address, make good on your words.
Kenny Dobyns
24 Birch Ter
Pawling, NY 12564-2324
When Muppet sends the check, do NOT cash it. Sign it directly over to UP and send to them (take a picture so he knows exactly how it was done in case there was any question about how to do it).
You have the mailing address, make good on your words.
Lance Marput
Sep 22, 2012, 11:09:11 AM9/22/12
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someone just sent me dobyns' mailing address ...$50 cash to
that address this wed ( payday) u nancys.
peter mc
mdsc
viva la josh moore
that address this wed ( payday) u nancys.
peter mc
mdsc
viva la josh moore
ultimatesamwood
Sep 24, 2012, 11:40:05 AM9/24/12
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Knappy wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 16:49
up, allow me to expand on that. And I'll preface this by
saying I'm no legal expert.
I don't think Peter is wrong to not want to pay a third
party. (This is different than the OxFam example cited
above: there was a stipulation in the will. I am aware of
no such pre-bet stipulation between Peter and Kenny.)
That said, I don't think Peter is right in insisting on not
funneling the entire bet to Ultimate Peace. (If I abhor
someone to whom I lost a bet, and s/he gives me the
opportunity to make good by doing something for an entity I
support, I'm doing that posthaste.)
In summation: On principle, Peter's not wrong (but that
doesn't mean he's right). In reality, Peter's not right
(but that doesn't mean he's wrong--perhaps just a dbag, as
many on RSD believe).
Me? I pay $100 to Ultimate Peace. But I often let reality
get in the way of principles. Just my two cents.
> The betting agency had to make good on a 100K (pounds)
> bet to a third party charity, because the original bettor
> stipulated that in his will.
>
> In essence, he did the same thing as Kenny: don't pay me
> (or, in his case, my heirs), pay my charity. And the
> betting agency paid 100K to Oxfam.
>
> Explain that to your anonymous legal scholar &
> Ultimatesamwood & let me know what they say.
Since my one post on the subject occasionally gets brought
> bet to a third party charity, because the original bettor
> stipulated that in his will.
>
> In essence, he did the same thing as Kenny: don't pay me
> (or, in his case, my heirs), pay my charity. And the
> betting agency paid 100K to Oxfam.
>
> Explain that to your anonymous legal scholar &
> Ultimatesamwood & let me know what they say.
up, allow me to expand on that. And I'll preface this by
saying I'm no legal expert.
I don't think Peter is wrong to not want to pay a third
party. (This is different than the OxFam example cited
above: there was a stipulation in the will. I am aware of
no such pre-bet stipulation between Peter and Kenny.)
That said, I don't think Peter is right in insisting on not
funneling the entire bet to Ultimate Peace. (If I abhor
someone to whom I lost a bet, and s/he gives me the
opportunity to make good by doing something for an entity I
support, I'm doing that posthaste.)
In summation: On principle, Peter's not wrong (but that
doesn't mean he's right). In reality, Peter's not right
(but that doesn't mean he's wrong--perhaps just a dbag, as
many on RSD believe).
Me? I pay $100 to Ultimate Peace. But I often let reality
get in the way of principles. Just my two cents.
Dan Naylor
Sep 24, 2012, 12:05:06 PM9/24/12
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In a way, paying the charity directly is potentially a
letoff. Assuming you can make full use of the deduction
(admittedly a dicey proposition for some people), you're
probably getting back somewhere between 15-35% of the cost
of the bet next april.
If you send the money to the person first, and they give it
to taxes, you don't get to deduct your gambling loss, unless
you have an offsetting gambling win, that you were going to
pay taxes on in the first place, and, at least in this case,
the IRS I think would have to acknowledge, after reading
this completely insane and petty thread, that this was a
valid bet, and not some sort of sham loss.
In any event, I doubt Peter has a ton of gambling winnings
to offset, so he should've just paid of ultipeace in full,
and happily taken the deduction that Dobyns was offering.
letoff. Assuming you can make full use of the deduction
(admittedly a dicey proposition for some people), you're
probably getting back somewhere between 15-35% of the cost
of the bet next april.
If you send the money to the person first, and they give it
to taxes, you don't get to deduct your gambling loss, unless
you have an offsetting gambling win, that you were going to
pay taxes on in the first place, and, at least in this case,
the IRS I think would have to acknowledge, after reading
this completely insane and petty thread, that this was a
valid bet, and not some sort of sham loss.
In any event, I doubt Peter has a ton of gambling winnings
to offset, so he should've just paid of ultipeace in full,
and happily taken the deduction that Dobyns was offering.
Knappy
Sep 24, 2012, 1:35:05 PM9/24/12
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"I am aware of no such pre-bet stipulation between Peter and
Kenny."
Samwood, my understanding is that there was no pre-bet
Kenny."
stipulation in the Oxfam case either. Dude made a bet. Wrote
it into his will later. Died. Oxfam wins 100K pounds.
mgd.mitch
Sep 24, 2012, 2:15:04 PM9/24/12
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Lance Marput wrote on Sat, 22 September 2012 11:08
words, 3rd party payment is not part of the bet. You
haven't given KD any money, so the balance owed would be
$100. Would be good to see UP get an extra $50 out of this
in the long run to act as interest and penalty. :)
> someone just sent me dobyns' mailing address ...$50 cash
> to
> that address this wed ( payday) u nancys.
Don't you mean $100? The bet was for $100 and, in your own
> to
> that address this wed ( payday) u nancys.
words, 3rd party payment is not part of the bet. You
haven't given KD any money, so the balance owed would be
$100. Would be good to see UP get an extra $50 out of this
in the long run to act as interest and penalty. :)
ultimatesamwood
Sep 24, 2012, 6:25:04 PM9/24/12
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Knappy wrote on Mon, 24 September 2012 13:31
of how s/he's going to pay it? That doesn't seem kosher to
me. (Again, not a legal expert, especially in British law).
Anyway, how I view things doesn't have to jibe with law
(and you can use that against me if you want, but I'm
guessing everyone has views that don't jibe with law).
In my opinion, if you lose a bet, you pay the party to whom
you lost unless there are pre-bet conditions. Maybe that
sets me at odds with how most of RSD posters view bets.
That said, if I'm Peter, I'd rather give my money to UP
rather than Kenny. But I'm not Peter, and he handled this
differently than I (and most RSDers) would.
What I was doing with my months-ago original post was
clarifying the principle under which Peter was not paying
Ultimate Peace. While I understand from where he is coming,
I don't necessarily agree with it. Essentially, I'm
agnostic on the whole thing. (Okay, there's a bit of
Devil's Advocacy in my original post, but I'm neither pro-
nor anti-Peter on this one.)
Just for shits and giggles, how would we react given the
following hypothetical:
Peter bets Kenny $100 he'll never get into UPA HoF. Kenny
wins. Peter says, "I'm not paying you, Kenny. Instead, I'm
giving the money to Ultimate Peace."
For more shits and giggles: what happened to toad anyway?
> "I am aware of no such pre-bet stipulation between Peter
> and Kenny."
>
> Samwood, my understanding is that there was no pre-bet
> stipulation in the Oxfam case either. Dude made a bet.
> Wrote it into his will later. Died. Oxfam wins 100K
> pounds.
One loses a bet but, vis-a-vis one's will, changes the terms
> and Kenny."
>
> Samwood, my understanding is that there was no pre-bet
> stipulation in the Oxfam case either. Dude made a bet.
> Wrote it into his will later. Died. Oxfam wins 100K
> pounds.
of how s/he's going to pay it? That doesn't seem kosher to
me. (Again, not a legal expert, especially in British law).
Anyway, how I view things doesn't have to jibe with law
(and you can use that against me if you want, but I'm
guessing everyone has views that don't jibe with law).
In my opinion, if you lose a bet, you pay the party to whom
you lost unless there are pre-bet conditions. Maybe that
sets me at odds with how most of RSD posters view bets.
That said, if I'm Peter, I'd rather give my money to UP
rather than Kenny. But I'm not Peter, and he handled this
differently than I (and most RSDers) would.
What I was doing with my months-ago original post was
clarifying the principle under which Peter was not paying
Ultimate Peace. While I understand from where he is coming,
I don't necessarily agree with it. Essentially, I'm
agnostic on the whole thing. (Okay, there's a bit of
Devil's Advocacy in my original post, but I'm neither pro-
nor anti-Peter on this one.)
Just for shits and giggles, how would we react given the
following hypothetical:
Peter bets Kenny $100 he'll never get into UPA HoF. Kenny
wins. Peter says, "I'm not paying you, Kenny. Instead, I'm
giving the money to Ultimate Peace."
For more shits and giggles: what happened to toad anyway?
Pete
Sep 24, 2012, 7:15:04 PM9/24/12
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Can we go back to the posts that included the words
"samwood" and "white revolution", please?
"samwood" and "white revolution", please?
mgd.mitch
Sep 24, 2012, 9:05:05 PM9/24/12
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ultimatesamwood wrote on Mon, 24 September 2012 18:24
winner's consent is not even remotely comparable to the
winner asking their rightfully owed money be given to
someone else. The winner gets to decide that they do with
their winnings. KD merely asked a step be removed in the
process of getting it to the recipient of his choice while
McD'bag decided giving money to kids might help improve KD's
image a bit too much.
Instead, Peter has brought more line of sight his own idiocy
and also to KD's donation. Win-win-win for KD,
lose-lose-lose for Peter.
> Just for shits and giggles, how would we react given the
> following hypothetical:
>
> Peter bets Kenny $100 he'll never get into UPA HoF.
> Kenny wins. Peter says, "I'm not paying you, Kenny.
> Instead, I'm giving the money to Ultimate Peace."
The loser giving the money to someone else without the
> following hypothetical:
>
> Peter bets Kenny $100 he'll never get into UPA HoF.
> Kenny wins. Peter says, "I'm not paying you, Kenny.
> Instead, I'm giving the money to Ultimate Peace."
winner's consent is not even remotely comparable to the
winner asking their rightfully owed money be given to
someone else. The winner gets to decide that they do with
their winnings. KD merely asked a step be removed in the
process of getting it to the recipient of his choice while
McD'bag decided giving money to kids might help improve KD's
image a bit too much.
Instead, Peter has brought more line of sight his own idiocy
and also to KD's donation. Win-win-win for KD,
lose-lose-lose for Peter.
Lance Marput
Sep 26, 2012, 2:00:04 PM9/26/12
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I put $50 cash in the mail to Dobyns during lunch ....bump.
Consider donating to www.ultimatepeace.org (but the url
doesn't seem to be working right now).
Peter Mc
MDSC
Consider donating to www.ultimatepeace.org (but the url
doesn't seem to be working right now).
Peter Mc
MDSC
Lance Marput
Sep 27, 2012, 10:00:05 AM9/27/12
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The http://www.ultimatepeace.org/ website seems to be
up and running again. I had trouble bringing it up
yesterday. Please consider donating to their worthwhile
cause.
side note: Be the first on your block to view the newest
Lance Marput action video. It was shot, edited and posted on
you tube just yesterday.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zax5QBzdesw
(Mitch "the mitch" Dengler is gonna totally dig this.)
Peter Mc
MDSC
Columbia, MO
"Planet Earth's premier public disc sports collection. Bar
none."
http://shs.umsystem.edu/manuscripts/collections/mdsc/index.s
html
up and running again. I had trouble bringing it up
yesterday. Please consider donating to their worthwhile
cause.
side note: Be the first on your block to view the newest
Lance Marput action video. It was shot, edited and posted on
you tube just yesterday.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zax5QBzdesw
(Mitch "the mitch" Dengler is gonna totally dig this.)
Peter Mc
MDSC
Columbia, MO
"Planet Earth's premier public disc sports collection. Bar
none."
http://shs.umsystem.edu/manuscripts/collections/mdsc/index.s
html
Euh
Sep 27, 2012, 11:10:05 AM9/27/12
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Lance Marput wrote on Thu, 27 September 2012 06:59
Might want to hide your own address
Lance Marput
Sep 27, 2012, 11:20:03 AM9/27/12
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nah...
Anyway... as one of your very-brave anonymous buddies
pointed out earlier in this thread, it's public
information.
Have a good work day on that end.
Peter McCarthy
MDSC
zip 65201
Anyway... as one of your very-brave anonymous buddies
pointed out earlier in this thread, it's public
information.
Have a good work day on that end.
Peter McCarthy
MDSC
zip 65201
Lance Marput
Oct 1, 2012, 7:35:04 PM10/1/12
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i started this thread bump...
Reggie Fanelli
Oct 1, 2012, 10:26:21 PM10/1/12
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~~~~~~~~~
---and it was about three posts about the topic you chose, and about
94 about you being sort of a dumbass...in particular, about betting.
---and it was about three posts about the topic you chose, and about
94 about you being sort of a dumbass...in particular, about betting.
disc...@yahoo.com
Oct 1, 2012, 11:08:36 PM10/1/12
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On Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:25:04 AM UTC-7, Lance Marput wrote:
> Toad Leber sure hasn't spewed much... if anything...on rsd
>
> in the last few months. And not a peep out of anyone on the
>
> subject? what the heck...
>
>
>
> Anybody read obits in that part of the country?
>
>
>
> Peter Mc
>
> MDSC
wow, this is now officially the lamest thread i have ever read.
sean
> Toad Leber sure hasn't spewed much... if anything...on rsd
>
> in the last few months. And not a peep out of anyone on the
>
> subject? what the heck...
>
>
>
> Anybody read obits in that part of the country?
>
>
>
> Peter Mc
>
> MDSC
wow, this is now officially the lamest thread i have ever read.
sean
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