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Reggie Fanelli

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:09:47 PM11/24/09
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The Observer hand signal for a pull that lands out of bounds beyond
the brick mark is the hand clap and hold overhead....the Classic Brick
signal.

The athletes seldom signal FOR the brick, but just grab the disc and
start heading to the brick mark.

I figure that the observers should signal that the O has the OPTION to
take the disc to the brick mark....since the O doesn't even signal for
it normally.

brick signal, followed by a chop to pointing at the brick mark spot to
direct the disc picker upper where to go.
and immediately...20....mental count down with visual arm chop....
10....continue...321.

Bones

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Nov 25, 2009, 2:25:50 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 24, 7:09 pm, Reggie Fanelli <ageric...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The Observer hand signal for a pull that lands out of bounds beyond
> the brick mark is the hand clap and hold overhead....the Classic Brick
> signal.

No, it's not. RTFM.

Bones
(That unshaven observer.)
(You know which one.)

MyCouchPullsOutButIDon't

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:04:43 AM11/25/09
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I'm lazy, so I'm going on memory. The only thing the person that
picks up the disc has to do is wave one hand above their head (a
touchback signal, instead of a safety) before they pick up the disc.
Either way, I do think the offensive player should have to signal if
they're going to take it to the brick. They can still grab it and run
to the sideline though.

Reggie Fanelli

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:44:49 AM11/25/09
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> No, it's not.  RTFM.


---YII. IWTFM.....so guess again!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


> Bones
> (That unshaven observer.)
> (You know which one.)


---or...i don't.
but i know you know me.

Reggie Fanelli

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:49:00 AM11/25/09
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> I'm lazy, so I'm going on memory.  The only thing the person that
> picks up the disc has to do is wave one hand above their head (a
> touchback signal, instead of a safety) before they pick up the disc.
> Either way, I do think the offensive player should have to signal if
> they're going to take it to the brick.  They can still grab it and run
> to the sideline though.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

---i don't know anything about waving a hand overhead.....
i only know that i never see a player signal......and now the UOA has
a signal FOR them.
it indicates that they MAY take the brick.

pizzaslot

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Nov 25, 2009, 10:17:18 AM11/25/09
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The "walk like an egyptian" signal for a Safety in football is one of
the best probably in all of officiating....Bricks happen way too much
in ultimate to cheapen such a great hand signal.

Torre

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Nov 25, 2009, 10:38:59 AM11/25/09
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ghunt wrote on Wed, 25 November 2009 05:04
> On Nov 25, 2:25 am, Bones <danjbr...@gmail.com[/email]

> I'm lazy, so I'm going on memory. The only thing the
> person that
> picks up the disc has to do is wave one hand above their
> head (a
> touchback signal, instead of a safety) before they pick
> up the disc.
> Either way, I do think the offensive player should have
> to signal if
> they're going to take it to the brick. They can still
> grab it and run
> to the sideline though.


VII.B.6.d.2:
"signaling for a brick or middle by fully extending one hand
overhead and calling brick or middle before gaining
possession of the disc"


--
Posted from http://www.rsdnospam.com

Reggie Fanelli

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Nov 25, 2009, 10:48:06 AM11/25/09
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> VII.B.6.d.2:
> "signaling for a brick or middle by fully extending one hand
> overhead and calling brick or middle before gaining
> possession of the disc"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--1 in a 100 times.

Torre

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Nov 25, 2009, 11:32:08 AM11/25/09
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agerics20 wrote on Wed, 25 November 2009 10:48


maybe on your side of the mountains...

i don't think i've heard someone call "brick" or "middle"...
but lifting the hand(or both hands for some people...) above
the head is quite common over here.

Reggie Fanelli

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:31:31 PM11/25/09
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> maybe on your side of the mountains...
>
> i don't think i've heard someone call "brick" or "middle"...
> but lifting the hand(or both hands for some people...) above
> the head is quite common over here.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


---i don't know what mountains you're talking about....
but what i'm talking about are the 16 games i've observed in the last
2 weeks.

Torre

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:38:49 PM11/25/09
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> ---i don't know what mountains you're talking about....
> but what i'm talking about are the 16 games i've
> observed in the last
> 2 weeks.

i'm talking about the tournaments i have gone to(both
college & club) over the past year(15+)...none of them
observered.

the lack of a brick "signals" by teams may be because at UOA
tournaments, teams probably expect observers to take care of
that.

Stafa

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:26:29 PM11/25/09
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Doesn't this new signal take away from the players requirement to
follow the rules.

If a brick is not signalled by the player before picking up the disc,
then they are taking it from the sideline. Otherwise, my understanding
is its a travel.

If my reading of your new signal (and effective implementation of an
adjusted rule) is correct, then a player picking up the disc can
change their mind between a brick and sideline without communicating
that decision to the field, thus the defence has no idea where the
disc is supposed to come in (sideline or brick).

If no brick signal is made by the player before picking up the disc,
they must take it from sideline. If the brick signal is made before
picking up the disc, it must be from the brick mark.

Why are we now allowing players to ignore the rules simply because the
UOA has an observer at the tournament? Isn't this exactly the type of
argument people have been making againt the use of observer/referees?
That players will only play for the rules that they will get pinged
on?

(Note, i am not for referees/active observers, but also not against
inactive observers who can provided unbiased oppinion on play)

anakin gerics

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Nov 26, 2009, 9:25:08 PM11/26/09
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> the lack of a brick "signals" by teams may be because at UOA
> tournaments, teams probably expect observers to take care of
> that.
~~~~~~~~~~~~

--i was recently at Club Nationals....can't remember too many 'brick'
signals there either.

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