the most difficult shot in curling
W. Tschirhart
of our game revolves around "the most difficult shot" that one might
attempt. This is no joke! Although subjective in nature, I have never
had anyone disagree with my choice for "the most difficult shot" in
curling. Now, that being said, if you have ever attended a course that I
have given or have, in some other forum, heard my explanation for this,
I hope that you will hold yor fire and let the "rookies" try to conjure
up the answer on their own. There's no prize but I will acknowledge the
correct answer if and when it arrives on this newsgroup.
I will save you some time and tell you to forget about the perfect
freeze or the draw to the button and all that "usual" stuff. Let's have
some fun with this and GOOD LUCK!
Bill Tschirhart
Philip Tilker wrote in message
<35F60838...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>...
>Is there a reward for coming up with a, God forbid, harder shot than the
one
>you are referring to?
>Philip
>Life without CURLING just isn't a life!
>
>
Philip Tilker
Dennis Lylyk
David McMurray
> Next to a discussion on strategy, one of the most talked about aspects
> of our game revolves around "the most difficult shot" that one might
> attempt. This is no joke! Although subjective in nature, I have never
> had anyone disagree with my choice for "the most difficult shot" in
> curling. [...]
The freeze and roll.
--
David
David A Aitcheson
>
> The hardest shot to make in curling is the next one you have to throw.
Especially when the open side rink is fogged to the point that you can
not see the all of the house that you are throwing from when standing at
the hack.
Jim Jordan
Philip Tilker <plti...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>Is there a reward for coming up with a, God forbid, harder shot than the one
>you are referring to?
>
>
>> Next to a discussion on strategy, one of the most talked about aspects
>> of our game revolves around "the most difficult shot" that one might
>> attempt.
Angle-raise triple-kill to lie eight?
Jim
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Kinko123
>
>> Next to a discussion on strategy, one of the most talked about aspects
>> of our game revolves around "the most difficult shot" that one might
>> attempt.
how about those tricky septtuple-takeouts for two in the 10th end, while down
1?
-dan brennan, schenectady ny
Allison Coombe
I would say that the hardest shot would be the tick.. nothing
extraordinary about my answer.. but it's pretty tough in my opinion
Allison
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Life is curling. Nothing else matter.
rockwatch
Curling,With a Rock on the left hand side of the 12ft.at the T-line,make the
double on a Rock that is on the right hand side at the T-line in the 12ft.
Philip Tilker wrote in message
<35F60838...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>...
>Is there a reward for coming up with a, God forbid, harder shot than the
one
>you are referring to?
>
>W. Tschirhart wrote:
>
>> Next to a discussion on strategy, one of the most talked about aspects
>> of our game revolves around "the most difficult shot" that one might
>> attempt. This is no joke! Although subjective in nature, I have never
>> had anyone disagree with my choice for "the most difficult shot" in
gro...@auracom.com
Dennis...@UManitoba.CA wrote:
> The hardest shot to make in curling is the next one you have to throw.
>
How about the one you just missed... you never get the chance to make it...
(guess that I am a pessimist...)
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>
> In article <35F60838...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>,
> Philip Tilker <plti...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> >you are referring to?
> >
> >W. Tschirhart wrote:
> >
> >> Next to a discussion on strategy, one of the most talked about aspects
> >> of our game revolves around "the most difficult shot" that one might
> >> attempt.
>
I agree with the Angle-raise triple kill to lie eight.
The next toughest is a draw to any part of the house in the middle of a
spring heatwave as the ice melts out from under you. I think we have all
been there at least once.
Jim
>
> --
> W. Jim Jordan, Nortel, Stop 314 Qualicum,
> PO Box 3511 Stn C, Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 Canada
> I do not speak for Nortel.
> Unsolicited commercial or bulk e-mail may attract an invoice.
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Chris Hall
Win or lose, THAT is a tough shot.
Chris Hall
VCC
bonh...@ibm.net
On Mon, 07 Sep 1998 23:57:09 -0400, "W. Tschirhart" <bi...@golden.net>
wrote:
>Next to a discussion on strategy, one of the most talked about aspects
>of our game revolves around "the most difficult shot" that one might
Mark Grice
second day of a bonspiel following three extra
end games the day before followed by closing down
the bar, emptying the minibar in the motel room
and waking up just 20 mins before the game on the
floor of another team's room? I seem to recall
that one being pretty tough.
Just a couple more weeks !!!!
Mark
mun...@netcom.ca
button!! Some ports are just too narrow :)
Jonathan Penney
jtpe...@istar.ca
Dave Parkhill
my ginger after the game!
Cheers!
Dave
Jim Henderson
the middle ends of the third game of a day long fun spiel after quaffing
about a dozen beers when as you look down the ice you see three or four
brooms and all of them are moving. So you close your left eye to help you
focus and as you're into the forward part of your delivery you fall on your
face . You forgot to remove your gripper.
Chris Hall wrote in message <35f8bfad...@news1.ibm.net>...
>My vote goes to a stiff Cuervo.
>Win or lose, THAT is a tough shot.
>
>Chris Hall
>VCC
>bonh...@ibm.net
>
>On Mon, 07 Sep 1998 23:57:09 -0400, "W. Tschirhart" <bi...@golden.net>
David McMurray
[...]
> > >W. Tschirhart wrote:
> > >
> > >> Next to a discussion on strategy, one of the most talked about aspects
> > >> of our game revolves around "the most difficult shot" that one might
> > >> attempt.
[...]
> The next toughest is a draw to any part of the house in the middle of a
> spring heatwave as the ice melts out from under you. I think we have all
> been there at least once.
It now appears that the whole purpose of Mr. Tschirhart's "question" was
to compile a list of valid e-mail addresses so that he and his buddies
could spam any respondents.
I suggest that he take his shot and stick it in his ear, if not lower
down.
--
David
Cam McLelland
the toughest shot in curling at a high performance camp near Saskatoon
in March of 1998. For a few minutes I thought I could provide a hint.
But then I realised none of you would do the same for me until after the
shot had been selected and missed. So think hard. And that's all I
will say. I really enjoyed listening to Bill at this camp and would
encourage anyone who has to opportunity to go to a camp at which he is
instructing to do so. He is probably too modest to admit that he has 4
excellent papers on the "Icing"(I think that is it) web site that one
should check out as well.
Cam McLelland Hub City Curling Club
Saskatoon, Sask.
W. Tschirhart wrote:
>
> Next to a discussion on strategy, one of the most talked about aspects
> of our game revolves around "the most difficult shot" that one might
Marvin
> It now appears that the whole purpose of Mr. Tschirhart's "question" was
> to compile a list of valid e-mail addresses so that he and his buddies
> could spam any respondents.
>
> I suggest that he take his shot and stick it in his ear, if not lower
> down.
>
> --
> David
Impatient.
Lee Edward Stickles
I can see from the responses that have been received on the most
difficult
shot in curling people still appear to be missing the point of what you
were asking - within the rules of curling, what would be the most
difficult shot 'in theory' ... not what what is the most difficult shot
someone has tried in an actual game ...
Curling, like most sports, has unique situations within the rules that
address a situation that is extremely unlikely but if it should
happen a rule covers it ... in this specific situation, today with
measuring devices using micrometers it is unlikely that 2 rocks would
be 'tied', but curling is an old game and for most of its history
measurments were 'eyeballed' so tied rocks may have occasionally
occured,
thereby justifying the rule.
I viewed your question to be no different than say -
o what is the maximum number of 'recorded' outs that you can get in an
inning of baseball (4) - or -
o what is the maximum number of 'recorded' hits that you can get in an
inning without scoring a run (6)
Hope this settles things ...
Later,
Lee
>-----Original Message-----
>Subject: Re: the most difficult shot in curling
>Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:37:18 -0400
>From: "Bill Tschirhart" <bi...@golden.net>
>To: <lee_st...@ibm.net>
>
>Congratulations Lee! Are are quite correct (in my opinion). I believe that
>would indeed be the most difficult shot in curling.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>From: Lee Edward Stickles <lee_st...@ibm.net>
>>To: bi...@golden.net <bi...@golden.net>
>>Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 11:39 AM
>>Subject: Re: the most difficult shot in curling
>>Bill:
>>
>>Your posting generated a number of intersting speculation about shots
>>people saw or could strategize ... but from a shot that is
>>'theoritically' possible to be called & thrown but 'virtually'
>>impossible to make would be -
>> o a draw to 'tie' shot rock
>>
>>This would be a situation where the opponent has shot rock that is
>>inaccessable but you can't afford to giveup a steal & don't want to take
>>a point - e.g., you one point down playing the secondlast end, with
>>hammer and the opponent lying shot rock guarded ... if you take the
>>point your tied in the last end but without hammer & if you giveup the
>>steal you two down with hammer, neither of which are desirable
>>situations ... so with your last rock you attempt a draw to 'tie' shot
>>rock & if the measurement shows the rocks are 'tied' its a blankend and
>>you retain the hammer for the last end, one down ...
>>
>>This type of situation shot is 'theoritically' possible, in about 25
>>years of curling I have never come across a situation where the rocks
>>were 'tied' and only been involved in one situation where the '6 foot'
>>stick couldn't determine if a rock was on or off the rings ...
>>
>>Hope this is what you were looking for ...
>>
>>Later,
>>
>>Lee
Christopher Hodgkin
How about you have last rock, your opponent has all 8 rocks lined up in
a straight line across the house, centered on the button, you have no
rocks in play, and the shot is to blank the end.