5-266 OC Scott WI v Eng Kingston 1929-30
5-228 MH Mankad Ind v WI Kingston 1952-53
5-212 PA Strang Zim v Pak Sheikhupura 1996-97
5-198 MH Mankad Ind v Eng Lord's 1952
5-182 RW Price Zim v Ind Nagpur 2001-02
5-181 T Richardson Eng v Aus Sydney(1) 1894-95
5-181 RW Price Zim v SAf Bulawayo 2001-02
5-180 SP Gupte Ind v WI Kingston 1952-53
aslam
GO PACERS!!!
> Here are all instances where a bowler took five wickets in a Test
> innings while conceding 180 or more runs.
>
> 5-266 OC Scott WI v Eng Kingston 1929-30
> 5-228 MH Mankad Ind v WI Kingston 1952-53
^^^^^^^^^
> 5-212 PA Strang Zim v Pak Sheikhupura 1996-97
> 5-198 MH Mankad Ind v Eng Lord's 1952
^^^^^^^^^
> 5-182 RW Price Zim v Ind Nagpur 2001-02
> 5-181 T Richardson Eng v Aus Sydney(1) 1894-95
> 5-181 RW Price Zim v SAf Bulawayo 2001-02
> 5-180 SP Gupte Ind v WI Kingston 1952-53
^^^^^^^^^
Mankad
Mankad
Gupte.
guess what is common between them ;-)
RK-
> Here are all instances where a bowler took five wickets in a Test
> innings while conceding 180 or more runs.
>
> 5-266 OC Scott WI v Eng Kingston 1929-30
> 5-228 MH Mankad Ind v WI Kingston 1952-53
> 5-212 PA Strang Zim v Pak Sheikhupura 1996-97
> 5-198 MH Mankad Ind v Eng Lord's 1952
I don't dare to correct Aslam, but I was wondering if this should be
5/196.
-Samarth.
Excellent Indian spinners of the 50s and 60s. :-)
-Samarth.
>
> RK-
>
>
> Mankad
> Mankad
> Gupte.
>
> guess what is common between them ;-)
If you are implying that they are both Bombay bowlers, you
would be wrong! Vinoo Mankad did not move to Bombay until
pretty late in his career. He is a Saurashtra man all
the way. Belongs to the famous 'naagar' community that
is so prominent is Saurashtra.
Amarsingh, Ranji, Duleep, V. Mankad, Jadeja, Gandhi, ....
all Saurashtra players!
Suresh Abraham
Peace,
Lenin
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<rk_u...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3C7BA766...@yahoo.com...
> Aslam Siddiqui wrote:
>
> > Here are all instances where a bowler took five wickets in a Test
> > innings while conceding 180 or more runs.
<snip>
> Mankad
> Mankad
> Gupte.
>
> guess what is common between them ;-)
Duh... They all appear on Aslam's list, of course. :)
Moby
I can't quite put my finger on it but Mankad and Mankad seem to have a lot
in common
jai
cut the crap Aslam, all of the above at least took five wickets
however
Fazal Mahmood 85.2 20 247 2
Khan Mohammad 54 5 259 0
the above when Sobers scored 365*
Umm. If youre just talking over 180 runs and *not* getting 5 wickets, ie
just poorish figures overall, I'll see your Fazal Mahmood and raise you.
Chauhan 78 8 276 1 (9nb, 3w)
Kumble 72 7 223 1 (6nb)
Kulkarni 70 12 195 1
The above when Jayasuriya scored 340.
BTW, Muralitharan misses out narrowly a few times on Aslam's list (but
not on yours, on a few occasions).
At Lucknow vs India: (Sachin 142, Sidhu 124)
Muralitharan 41.5 3 162 5
At Bangalore vs India: (Azhar 108, Sachin 96, Sidhu 99, Kambli 82)
Muralitharan 65 11 179 4
At Colombo vs India: (Sachin 143, Azhar 126, Sidhu 111)
Muralitharan 65 9 174 2 (8nb)
At Chandigarh vs India: (Sidhu 131, Ganguly 109)
Muralitharan 75 30 174 3 (5nb, 1w)
At Perth vs Australia: (Slater 219, Boon 111, Taylor 96, Ponting 96)
Muralitharan 54 3 224 2 (4nb)
On the first occasion, he misses making Aslam's list by 18 runs. On the
rest, he would make your list presumably, if you make the qualifier 170
runs instead of 180 :-)
Sadiq [ Sachin, Azhar, Sidhu - all 3 missing vs Murali this
season, no wonder he did so well against India :-) ] Yusuf
Disagree, of course :-)
Ranji and Duleep were both English players, Gandhi was a Bengal player
(unless you mean MK?), Jadeja was a Delhi player :-)
Seriously, maybe Ranji and Duleep qualify for Nawanagar - though Ranji was
much more an English player than anything else, even in terms of development
of his cricket IMHO. Amarsingh and Mankad are the two greatest Nawanagar
players in history. Gandhi cant be anything but a Bengal player - thats
the only place he ever played and learned his cricket IMHO. Same with
Jadeja - father an MP, grew up and learned his cricket in school and
college in Delhi before moving to Haryana on the word of Kapil, purely
a North player IMHO, no matter where his heritage was from (kind of like
Kuruvilla is a dyed-in-the-woold Bombay player, not a Kerala player :-)
And its Nawanagar, not Saurashtra - big difference, even if the area is
the same IMHO :-) Princely state with princely sponsorship of cricket,
same reason why Hazare was a Baroda man really. When the princely support
for cricket went away from Nawanagar and it became Saurashtra, it stopped
producing cricketers worth the name (See? Princely States were not all
bad :-) (And no, I shall refuse to deign to respond to those low-down-X(***#
who make cracks saying Bombay similarly stopped producing cricketers
when it changed its name :-)
Sadiq [ Indrajit, Colah, Ramji also played tests from Nawanagar IIRC] Yusuf
> Suresh Abraham
Do you know that you are doomed in the next issue of Larry's
guide to RSC posters ?
>"Amol Cricketwallah" <cricke...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:a374a779.02022...@posting.google.com...
>> Sadiq [ Sachin, Azhar, Sidhu - all 3 missing vs Murali this
>> season, no wonder he did so well against India :-) ] Yusuf
>
>Do you know that you are doomed in the next issue of Larry's
>guide to RSC posters ?
>
Depends what you mean by "doomed", doesn't it? Being slagged off by
Larry is surely one of the greatest honours to which an rsc poster can
aspire.
Cheers,
Mike
> sgab...@hotmail.com (Suresh Abraham) wrote in message
> > Amarsingh, Ranji, Duleep, V. Mankad, Jadeja, Gandhi, ....
> > all Saurashtra players!
> >
>
> Disagree, of course :-)
>
> Ranji and Duleep were both English players, Gandhi was a Bengal player
> (unless you mean MK?), Jadeja was a Delhi player :-)
You had to nitpick, didn't you? Hey if Jagdale, Adhikari, and
Gaekwad are lumped together as Maharashtra players in RSC, why
can't I call Jadeja and Debang Gandhi Saurashtra players? (-:
I was referring to their heritage and geographical location of
their home-towns, of course. Ranji, Duleep, and now Jadeja
belong to the princely Rajput families of Saurastra, Amarsingh
was another 'darbaar', Mankad was a 'naagar' and Debang was
born in Saurashtra before moving to Bengal! (Although, if you
live in Bhavanipur, are you really living in Bengal? (-: )
> (See? Princely States were not all bad :-)
Let us not even get started on this very non-PC topic! I
will stop at saying that an EU soccer team will be lot
inferior to the teams from each EU nation!
Suresh Abraham
Of course I did :-)
> Hey if Jagdale, Adhikari, and
> Gaekwad are lumped together as Maharashtra players in RSC, why
> can't I call Jadeja and Debang Gandhi Saurashtra players? (-:
>
Ah, but rsc is wrong, so why be wrong in return? :-)
> I was referring to their heritage and geographical location of
> their home-towns, of course. Ranji, Duleep, and now Jadeja
> belong to the princely Rajput families of Saurastra, Amarsingh
> was another 'darbaar', Mankad was a 'naagar' and Debang was
> born in Saurashtra before moving to Bengal! (Although, if you
> live in Bhavanipur, are you really living in Bengal? (-: )
>
True. The one's I actually dont think count as "Saurashtra players" are
Gandhi and Jadeja, I think they both learned most of their cricket
elsewhere and that is the important thing (sort of like Abey being a
Bombay product, not a Kerala product - or even Zaheer being a Bombay
product, of course ;-). The others, Ranji, Duleep, Amar, Mankad, they
pretty much all qualify with Nawanagar being probably the biggest influence
on their cricketing lives - even Ranji and Duleep, while getting very good
in England, were already pretty good by the time they left Nawanagar
I suppose :-)
> > (See? Princely States were not all bad :-)
>
> Let us not even get started on this very non-PC topic! I
> will stop at saying that an EU soccer team will be lot
> inferior to the teams from each EU nation!
>
Heh :-)
BTW, did you get final updates on the West Zone U22s? Meant to ask in the
other thread, but never got around to it - so will do so here (and tell
you what I know, which is mostly Bbay stuff only unfortunately).
Bombay U22, after playing those weak first 2 games, played another quite
ordinary game against Maharashtra U22 but managed to win by an innings
nevertheless. Bowled Maharashtra U22 out for 127 on the first day, with
Rajesh Verma getting another 5-fer (he had 10 wickets in the previous
2 games IIRC, including a 5-fer vs Saurashtra). But Bombay U22 in response
were awful to start with, sliding to 60/5 on the first day with some quite
godawful batting - I have rarely seen such bitterness expressed towards
any Bombay batting side as on the performance of that day :-) The lineup
was Vinayak Mane, Aziz Shaikh, Amit Dhulap, Sushant Manjrekar and
someone-else - I dont know why Shaikh was opening, but there it is. Mane
left early (run out IIRC, but not sure), Shaikh actually hung in for a
while. The rest of the middle order batted poorly, trying to play too many
shots too early - Dhulap IIRC tried to hoick his very first ball with the
side about 50/4, and was bowled! Oh, I think Thakkar was the 5th wicket to
fall actually - hung in for a bit but didnt last either. Another crappy
batting performance by the U22 top and middle-order.
Pushkaraj Jadhav got together with Rajesh Pawar and steadied the innings,
taking the score to 89/5 by days end however (this was Rajesh Pawar's first
U22 game of the season, BTW, confirmed that fact). Then they batted very
well on the 2nd day - Pushkaraj got 67 and put on about 140 with Pawar,
having Bombay firmly in the lead before he fell. Pawar went on to get
129, his first ton in any kind of cricket IIRC, a terrific innings. With
Bombay well in command, Wilkin Mota came in down the order and slogged
54 in quick time, and Bombay ended up 320+ IIRC.
Then, on 2nd innings, Bombay bowled Maharashtra U22 out once again for
125 - this time Rajesh Verma had 21 overs, 6/46 and thus an 11-fer in
the match! Rohan Bane had 3/37, and in the end a quite comfortable
innings win for Bombay, despite the very weak early batting performance.
Last match of the U22s was against Baroda U22 at Baroda. Very sketchy
news on this one. Bombay U22 batted first, and batted quite brilliantly
apparently - Vinayak Mane finally got his form back this season, and
scored 201 ! Sushant Manjrekar got 90, and Pushkaraj Jadhav had 109* (Iam
not sure what the total was, only got the above news for the moment). And
then the match had to be abandoned due to the riots in Gujarat, from
what I hear.
If you have any other news (on either the 3rd or 4th round of matches),
do share it :-)
Sadiq [ who thinks Verma might have moved to next in line for Bbay ] Yusuf
> Suresh Abraham