Unlucky Indian cricketeers in 90's
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2)Vijay Yadav.I dare say that he is a much better batsman (especially in
one- days )much better than Nayan Mongia(imagine being sent as a
pinch-hitter in Sharjah and having a strike rate of less than 1)(anyone who
remembers his maiden one-day cameo effort of 32* against the likes of Donald
et co will know what I am talking about.
Although Yadav might have been a good pinch-hitter, he was a passable keeper
at most. Remember, the prime objective of a keeper is to keep wickets and
then make runs.
Anyday, I'd have a Mongia over Yadav.
I clearly remember the Hero Cup SemiFinal v/s Sth Africa in Calcutta. India
defending 195 had Srinath in full steam, but what does Mr. Yadav do -- Drop
a dolly off Hudson in the 2 nd over. Hudson went on to score 61. I do not
want to belittle him, just on the basis of one performance, but even in
other matches his keeping was inconsistent.
After that cup, Yadav was dropped - NOT for his lack of runs - but for his
below par performance behind the wickets. He did make comeback, I think,
but didn't last long and was dropped again.
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I am tempted to include Rahul Dravid in this list. Rahul, imo, is one of
best batsmen in the world today. But the 90s are not over yet, and Rahul
*will* prove his fans right and selectors wrong soon! Rah-rah-Rahul!
**However**, the list of unlucky players cannot be completed w/o the
mention of Amol Muzumdar. For the most of the 90s, he was one of
the best batsmen in India; perfect technique and great temperament.
I believe he would have a been an international superstar if he was
given even a single opportunity.
Then there are these two allrounders who barely even get mentioned.
Padmanabhan of Kerala and Jedhe of Maharashtra. Both these players are
perfect for the ODI game. Awesome fielding, fast and technically sound
batting and tight bowling. In the meantime Sanghvi, with his very
mediocre record, gets picked cuz his dad is so-and-so. sigh!!
> 1)Samir Dighe In an exhibition match against a full fledged Pakistan attack
> when all the other famous batsmen were back in the pavilion he alone almost
> took India to victory.
Didn't he leave cricket? He did not even play for B'bay last
year. He might be back this year for Bombay though. Pity; cuz to go
with his sound batting, he had very sure hands as well.
> 2)Vijay Yadav.I dare say that he is a much better batsman (especially in one-
> days )much better than Nayan Mongia(imagine being sent as a pinch-hitter
Yadav's keeping is suspect. Mongia, albeit not great, is a
much better keeper.
> 3)Vinod Kambli:Injuries and freak incidents continue to bog his
> career.Hopefully he shall soon be a regular.He has tremendous class.
Au contraire, he is very lucky! His average would have been a lot
lower if he had continued to play, imo. Now, he will go down in the
records as one of the very few Indian middle order batsmen with 40+
average; and that list includes greats like Vishy, Jimmy, Vengy,
and Polly - not to mention the legendary Hazare! You think Kambli
would still be on that list if he was healthy?
Speaking of unlucky, another player on the 40+ MOBs is Pravin Amre.
And now, he is being shuttled around at the Ranji level.
> 4)Abey Kuruvilla:Should have been in the Indian team way back around 1991
With Abey, it is a mixed bag. He was very unlucky not to play in the
early 90s. On the other hand, he was very lucky to play in the mid and
late 90s. He was way past his prime and Prasad had much better control.
You should also consider Chandrakant Pandit and Sugwekar for this list.
Offie, you comments?
Suresh
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Shridhar
>shan...@bu.edu (Shantanu Desai) wrote:
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>I am tempted to include Rahul Dravid in this list. Rahul, imo, is one of
>best batsmen in the world today. But the 90s are not over yet, and Rahul
>*will* prove his fans right and selectors wrong soon! Rah-rah-Rahul!
Not meaning to offend Dravid as a batsman, isn't he getting enough chances
already even after failing with the bat against the likes of Kenya ??? How can
you call him unlucky ?????
>In the meantime Sanghvi, with his very
>mediocre record, gets picked cuz his dad is so-and-so. sigh!!
Hasn't he proved himself somewhat in the matches that he played ??? If you prove
yourself finally, why pick on the ifs and buts ??? I can't comment on
Padmanabhan and Jedhe, probably they would have doe well, probably they would
not have. Its better to analyse the facts than speculate about things, isn't it
???
Shridhar
Neeran M. Karnik
>I am tempted to include Rahul Dravid in this list. Rahul, imo, is one of
>best batsmen in the world today.
That he is, but why exactly does he belong in the "unlucky"
cricketers' list? Just because he's been in and out of the one-day
side? I'm not at all sure that's a bad thing for him.
>**However**, the list of unlucky players cannot be completed w/o the
>mention of Amol Muzumdar. For the most of the 90s, he was one of
>the best batsmen in India; perfect technique and great temperament.
Especially for the Test middle-order, yes... If he has a good season
or two now, he *might* still make it when Azhar retires.
>> 1)Samir Dighe
>Didn't he leave cricket? He did not even play for B'bay last
>year. He might be back this year for Bombay though. Pity; cuz to go
>with his sound batting, he had very sure hands as well.
He didn't leave cricket; for a while last season, he was unavailable
because he was undergoing training as a flight purser (he works for
Indian Airlines). He should be back this season, although it's not
clear whether the Bombay selectors will pick him or stay with
Sulakshan for the 4-day games.
>> 3)Vinod Kambli:Injuries and freak incidents continue to bog his
>> career.Hopefully he shall soon be a regular.He has tremendous class.
>Au contraire, he is very lucky! His average would have been a lot
>lower if he had continued to play, imo. Now, he will go down in the
>records as one of the very few Indian middle order batsmen with 40+
>average; and that list includes greats like Vishy, Jimmy, Vengy,
>and Polly - not to mention the legendary Hazare! You think Kambli
>would still be on that list if he was healthy?
Err yes, I do anyway. His health has nothing to do with it, by the
way. He certainly had his problems against the short ball, but so
did Azharuddin. To a certain extent, Azhar has improved his batting
against the short stuff, and certainly managed to keep a 45+ average
comfortably. Given Kambli's obvious class and talent, there's no
reason to believe that he wouldn't work out his technical flaws.
>Speaking of unlucky, another player on the 40+ MOBs is Pravin Amre.
>And now, he is being shuttled around at the Ranji level.
Yes, an unfortunate case. He's now back in Bombay and hoping to
break into his home team. I hope they do pick him, and further make
him captain. Bombay need an experienced pro to replace Manjrekar in
the lineup, especially when Tendulkar and Kambli are not available.
>With Abey, it is a mixed bag. He was very unlucky not to play in the
>early 90s. On the other hand, he was very lucky to play in the mid and
>late 90s. He was way past his prime and Prasad had much better control.
Control? I didn't think control was a problem; he had lost pace,
however. Having seen him bowl fiery stuff around 1990 (and cursed
him loudly for *that* runout in *that* Ranji final), his recent
medium-paced avatar was somewhat pitiful...
>You should also consider Chandrakant Pandit and Sugwekar for this list.
Pandit wasn't particularly unlucky... More was clearly a better
'keeper. And we weren't so obsessed with ODIs then, so the better
keeper won the race. Sugwekar was, of course, done in by the curse
of Nehru Stadium, Pune.
>Suresh
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> 5)Rajesh Chouhan:
> He is one of the few Indian players who is mentally tough.Imagine what must be
Mental toughness not backed by talent isnt enough.
jagadish
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> I am tempted to include Rahul Dravid in this list. Rahul, imo, is one of
That is one of the most ridiculous statements.
He has a test avg of 50+ from 20+ tests, without being out for a duck yet.
agreed, he isnt a permanent fixture in the odi team but who knows what toronto
might come up with ! but to classify him as being unlucky (that is if u arent
referring to his inability to convert 75+ to 100 => 9 out of his total 15 50s
are 75+ !!)
> With Abey, it is a mixed bag. He was very unlucky not to play in the
> early 90s. On the other hand, he was very lucky to play in the mid and
> late 90s. He was way past his prime and Prasad had much better control.
Crap !
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Abey Kuruvilla is one of India's best bowlers post Kapil Dev. He deserves to
be in the team at all costs because he was a good substitute for Srinath in
the WI tour
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Shridhar
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>> I am tempted to include Rahul Dravid in this list. Rahul, imo, is one of
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>That is one of the most ridiculous statements.
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>He has a test avg of 50+ from 20+ tests, without being out for a duck yet.
>agreed, he isnt a permanent fixture in the odi team but who knows what toronto
>might come up with ! but to classify him as being unlucky (that is if u arent
>referring to his inability to convert 75+ to 100 => 9 out of his total 15 50s
>are 75+ !!)
Obviously, your bone-headedness, he was referring to ODIs. BTW, as i said
before, how can he be unlucky when he comes back into the team after failing
against Kenya ??!!
Shridhar
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