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Shiva IYER

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Oct 6, 2007, 6:54:06 PM10/6/07
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That's the trillion dollar question these days. We have heard all the
reasons for this new aspect of cricket (or is this cricket), where
teams try to unsettle each other verbally and it's all justified in
the name of aggression and killer instinct.

But is this really required and I'm looking at it from an Indian
context.
How different would have things been if India, after its T20 WC win,
remained humble and gentlemanly towards a formidable opponent like the
Aussies and yet put its best foot on the cricket field?? Something
worth thinking about.

India has been known in the past for its mild mannered cricketing
gentlemen, save a few individuals here and there and many names come
to the mind from the past and present as well. Gundappa Vishwanath
is a name from the past that deserves mention in this regard. But one
of the finest examples of gentlemanship exhibited by a current player
is no doubt our own Rahul Dravid. Now here's a fine mannered person
and a batsman par excellence worthy of respect.

The best example of Rahul's demeanour came into light during the 2001
tour of India by Steve Waugh's Australians. Dravid was hoplelessly
out of form during the beginning of the series and when India were
beaten soundly in the opening test, the criticism of his batting just
increased exponentially. And this criticism was a continuation from
the pathetic Indian batting debacle in Australia during the1999-2000
Indian tour. There was one particular foreign commentator and I
believe it was Ian Chappel that was stingingly critical of Dravid's
defensive approach and he even came close to labelling it as
diffidence. But Rahul being the gentleman he is never reacted.

And then came that epic test match at Eden Gardens, which went on to
become one of the greatest test matches ever for India. Of course,
Laxman was the superstar of that match with his legendary double ton
that changed the tables on the Aussies but that would not have
eventuated if Rahul had not matched him with his equally defiant183,
which was a text book innings of patience and technique and he was his
nickname, the WALL personified. I personally always rate that as one
of the greatest innings of Dravid and even rate it higher than
Laxman's knock in that match only because of the circumstance in which
Rahul hit that magnificent match saving-winning ton. But there was
no verbal counter attack by Dravid towards his critics on his
redemption. He just raised his bat towards the commentary box. Now
here ACTIONS SPOKE LOUDER THAN WORDS and after that innings, Rahul
Dravid WON and most importantly earned the total respect of his
peers. He would have lost that in one stroke had he made any post
match haughty remarks which he could have very well done given the
kind of criticism directed at him.

Even in the dressing rooms, Dravid is known for his gentlemanly
disposition, especially in his dealings with the players from the
opposing teams. He is noted for always taking the first step to go to
the opposing team's lockers and enquire after their wellbeing and in
general congratulating them for their fine performances and being
friends.

So here one can see that one need not be an arrogant sledger in order
to win. It is still good to go back to good old fashioned decency and
make cricket as an example for all other sports in this world of
ruthless competition and me first me-me-me. And what about that great
Kapil Dev. Yes he was known for his fiery Jaat dispositon on the
cricket field but the most striking part of Dev was his ever smiling
buck tooth that became forever etched in hearts of fans.

Is sledging really needed?? But it is not our Indian culture. Our
culture emphasizes "Athithi Devo Bhava" which means the guest that has
come to us is God personified and has to be treated with the highest
accord even if he is your sworn enemy in the outside world. In this
context, the Aussies are our guests and yes we need to match their
fire with fire on the field, but we could always do that minus all
these gimmicks. One of the greatest heroes of Hindu mythology,
Krishna, is known also known as "Jitamanyu", the conqueror of anger.
Even the Mahabharata, the Indian war epic, has countless examples of
gentlemanly conduct in war by sworn enemies even though it was
transgressed by the baddies now and then to their own detriment.
( Krishna took every opportunity to teach the transgressors a
befitting lesson) One also could take examples of other great
gentleman warriors like Bheeshma.

So why the Indian cricket team should be gentlemen?
It is our cultural ethos, the respect for our parents, elders,
teachers, and guests. And today by virtue of being the biggest and
most influential market for the game, we Indians have an unique
opportunity to bring back cricket's finest virtue: gamesmanship as an
example to all others and the rest of the sporting world. Yes we may
be accused of lacking the killer instinct, but IMHO gamesmanship and
performance are two totally different issues and one does not require
to be a foul mouthed bully in order to win. History and culture has
shown us time and time again and all this sledging is just a very
recent eruption which over time would prove to become a very counter-
productive tool. It is no rocket science that by remaining calm and
composed, one gets an advantage over one's opponent.

To conclude: warriors like Bheeshma not only conquered their foes but
won their hearts as well. As another great warrior Arjuna said so
aptly, 'O Krishna, what good is a victory if I have not killed the
hate and resentment of my enemy.' One can only really win if one has
won over the heart of one's enemy and for this one has to extinguish
the hatred in oneself.

All this sledging is a vicious never-ending cycle and will keep going
on and God knows to what newer depths will it descend. If this goes
on, there may be a day in the very near future where players could
actually physically assault each other. The ICC needs to put an end
to this by introducing very lengthy bans for foul language and
behaviour.

And whether this happens or not, India has got a great chance here to
depict its true cultural ethos to the rest of the world: gamesmanship
in these days big money fuelled ruthless competition. Other than its
remarkable economic and technological strides for which it has won
countless accolades, this gamesmanship in cricket could be one more
worthy and maybe the highest feather in its cap.

Shiva IYER
071007
www.sivaramhariharan.com
Satyam-eva-jayate

will_s

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Oct 6, 2007, 7:02:42 PM10/6/07
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"Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> That's the trillion dollar question these days. We have heard all the
> reasons for this new aspect of cricket (or is this cricket), where
> teams try to unsettle each other verbally and it's all justified in
> the name of aggression and killer instinct.
>
> But is this really required and I'm looking at it from an Indian
> context.


The only reason they came down on sledging a few decades ago was the fear
that it would incite crowd violence in places like the sub continent and the
Windies

I can still remember something I was taught many decades ago, its a saying I
am sure plenty have heard before. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but
names wont hurt me"

I am glad to see India letting it all hang out and IMHO it adds more spark
to the game. A good example will be when Sreenath ( forgive the spelling )
comes out to bat in Oz. Hopefully someone like Lee will be brought straight
on and a few balls directed squarely at his head will result and I expect
Sreenath to return the compliment

Rod

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Oct 6, 2007, 7:29:20 PM10/6/07
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:54:06 -0000, Shiva IYER <om.sr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>That's the trillion dollar question these days. We have heard all the
>reasons for this new aspect of cricket (or is this cricket), where
>teams try to unsettle each other verbally and it's all justified in
>the name of aggression and killer instinct.

>All this sledging is a vicious never-ending cycle and will keep going


>on and God knows to what newer depths will it descend. If this goes
>on, there may be a day in the very near future where players could
>actually physically assault each other. The ICC needs to put an end
>to this by introducing very lengthy bans for foul language and
>behaviour.

There's nothing new about it in terms of Cricket or any other sport
I've ever played. I wouldn't contribute it to aggression though. I
don't believe aggression and sledging necessarily go hand in hand.
You can play aggressively without uttering a single word. Perhaps
sledging is new to Indian Cricket, that I wouldn't know.

Sledging never affected me and I rarely indulged in it other than
the odd remark when I had tied a batsmen up and he did everything
but get a tickle on the ball that it was 'well left'.

Sledging is part of any organised team sport in Australia when I
was playing in the 70's, this was well before the advent of stump
mics and any focus being placed on sledging by your idols out on
the field. I have absolutely no problem with general comments
designed to unsettle an opponent whether it be liberally sprinkled
with swear words or not.

There was a Youtube link in this group recently that had Sangs
sledging Pollock, perfect example of a great sledge.

However, I absolutely draw the line at personal abuse, including
(and especially) any sort of racial abuse, sexual connotations, etc.
McGrath to Sarwan for instance, TOTALLY unacceptable and Sarwan
responded with the perfect (yet untimely) reply.

Sledging, I don't think you'd ever eradicate it from sporting
culture in Australia no matter how hard you tried to clamp down
on it, but don't put sledging in with abuse because they're two
different things. Newer depths? It's been evolving for more than
100 years in Cricket. What have you observed recently that makes
you believe it's evolved into something more sinister than before?

Cheers,
Rod.

CricketLeague

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"will_s" <willsju...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1191711246.6...@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> That's the trillion dollar question these days. We have heard all the
>> reasons for this new aspect of cricket (or is this cricket), where
>> teams try to unsettle each other verbally and it's all justified in
>> the name of aggression and killer instinct.
>>
>> But is this really required and I'm looking at it from an Indian
>> context.
>
>
> The only reason they came down on sledging a few decades ago was the fear
> that it would incite crowd violence in places like the sub continent and
> the Windies


Translation:

Subcontinental sand niggas and WI niggas are UNCIVILIZED.

> I can still remember something I was taught many decades ago, its a saying
> I am sure plenty have heard before. "Sticks and stones may break my bones
> but names wont hurt me"


Who gives a FUCK about what you were taught as a kid, RACIST AUSSIE KANGAROO
FUCKER.

SLEDGING is NOT AN ACCEPTABLE form of sport tactics and it should be BANNED
from cricket.

Why is SLEDGING ALLOWED but NOT sending off a batsman ?

Answer: AUSSIES, BRITS, proteas and blackcaps LOVE to ABUSE players' mom,
wife, sisters and daughters

Subcontinentals should take control of ICC and CHANGE cricket rules to make
it a LEVEL PLAYING GROUND.

Western countries turned field hockey into a POWER GAME with astro turf
grounds and other rules that FAVOR them.

I hope subcontinentals take over ICC asap and make sure the rules does NOT
favor Aus, UK, NZ and SA

> I am glad to see India letting it all hang out and IMHO it adds more spark
> to the game. A good example will be when Sreenath ( forgive the spelling )
> comes out to bat in Oz. Hopefully someone like Lee will be brought
> straight on and a few balls directed squarely at his head will result and
> I expect Sreenath to return the compliment


Guess what AUSSIE PUSSIE will_s, When SreeSanth bowled the beamer to Kevin
Pietersen, all BRIT PUSSIES here CRIED LIKE BABIES with a thousand comments.
One SUCH PUSSY Mike Hollowman extapolated that beamer to the subcontinentals
disembowling brit players with the stumps.

NOT ONE Indian complained and CRIED like babies (like YOU WESTERN PUSSIES
did) when Gul bowled a beamer to Dhoni at a very crucial stage in T20 finals


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Fish Womper

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Oct 7, 2007, 4:21:30 AM10/7/07
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All of this might hold some water were the subcontinentals not equally
adept at the practice.


fish

Shiva IYER

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>
> Sledging, I don't think you'd ever eradicate it from sporting
> culture in Australia no matter how hard you tried to clamp down
> on it, but don't put sledging in with abuse because they're two
> different things. Newer depths? It's been evolving for more than
> 100 years in Cricket. What have you observed recently that makes
> you believe it's evolved into something more sinister than before?
>
> Cheers,
> Rod.


Certainly there could be a distinction made between light hearted
teasing and abuse as u point. But too often in modern cricket we are
witnessing indiviudals, especially these days, stray into the zone of
personal abuse and even actions like waving the bat in anger towards
the other party. More often, we see players making comments on
personal lives of other players which you rightly say is unacceptable.

Moreover, one can surely see more un-gentlemanly conduct in cricket
these
days compared to the days of old. Good hearted mild sledging could
be part of Aussie sporting culture and that could translate into any
culture
in other forms of expressions and actions. But there is a chance of
degenaration into what I call as "CRICKET_RAGE" the equivalent of
ROAD_RAGE in these days of high stress and astronomical demands on
performance by an individual cricketer trying to cement his place in
his team
and chances for CRICKET_RAGE to occur in any given game
are getting higher and higher these days of high stakes and big
money.
And this is what I mean when I say that it could descend to newer
depths.

Unfortunately in India's case, they seem to ape Australia's sledging
but what
they need to ape really is Aussie's level of CONSISTENT performance on
the
field. And there is nothing wrong in being true to one's cultural
values and ethos
in matters of dealing with one's opponents. Whilst the Aussies
could
resort to their good natured sledging, Indians could very well bring
their
own style into the game. And this would greatly add to cricketing
culture.

Regs
Shiva IYER
071009

Rodney

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Oct 7, 2007, 7:56:13 AM10/7/07
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will_s reckoned:

> "Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1191711246.6...@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> That's the trillion dollar question these days. We have heard all the
>> reasons for this new aspect of cricket (or is this cricket), where
>> teams try to unsettle each other verbally and it's all justified in
>> the name of aggression and killer instinct.
>> But is this really required and I'm looking at it from an Indian
>> context.
> The only reason they came down on sledging a few decades ago was the
> fear that it would incite crowd violence in places like the sub
> continent and the Windies

Not to mention Australia.

--
Cheers,
Rodney Ulyate

"Kill! Kill! Kill!"

dechucka

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"Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> That's the trillion dollar question these days. We have heard all the
> reasons for this new aspect of cricket (or is this cricket), where
> teams try to unsettle each other verbally

snip

Sorry your first sentence is inaccurate, sledging has been going on since
the good Dr graced the fields and probably before that. All teams do it to a
greater or lesser degree.


CricketLeague

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"Fish Womper" <x@x.x> wrote in message
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Subcontinentals were NEVER adept at these WESTERN PRACTICES which is why
field hockey rules were CHANGED to SUIT western style of play.

ICC rules of SLEDGING (ABUSE of players family members with OBSCENE
LANGUAGE) favors Aus/UK/SA/NZ players.

Subcontinentals MERELY REACT and RETALIATE once in a while and when they DO
react, they get FINED by RACISTS Mike Dennis or Chris Broad or some other
fuckers anyway.

CricketLeague

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"Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Western worshipping SLAVISH IDIOT,

If you DO think Australia SLEDGES and Indians are APING them, WHY DONT YOU
FUCKING CRITICIZE Australians for SLEDGING and STOP PREACHING Indian players
?


> they need to ape really is Aussie's level of CONSISTENT performance on
> the
> field. And there is nothing wrong in being true to one's cultural
> values and ethos
> in matters of dealing with one's opponents. Whilst the Aussies
> could
> resort to their good natured sledging, Indians could very well bring
> their
> own style into the game. And this would greatly add to cricketing
> culture.
>
> Regs
> Shiva IYER
> 071009
>

--

Rodney

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dechucka apologised:

> "Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1191711246.6...@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> That's the trillion dollar question these days. We have heard all the
>> reasons for this new aspect of cricket (or is this cricket), where
>> teams try to unsettle each other verbally
> Sorry your first sentence is inaccurate, sledging has been going on since
> the good Dr graced the fields and probably before that.

*Definitely* before that.

--
Cheers,
Rodney Ulyate

"I doubt if many of my contemporaries, especially the older ones, did
many exercises. I have often tried to picture Evans and Compton doing
press-ups in the outfield before the day's play, but so far have failed
miserably."
Peter May

Shiva IYER

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Do we really have to ape the sledging by Australia?
We don't. What we need really is to outperform them in the field
rather than ape their sledging. And sledging in
any form, IMHO, should be banned. And if we
look at the cold hard facts now, Australia is outperforming
everyone else CONSISTENTLY, save a smattering of
losses here and there.

Let the Aussies do it their way and we will do it
our way when it comes to off the ball and off the field
etiquettes. They have a particular aspect of their
sporting culture which we may not necessarily agree with
and we will have our own with which we agree.

And yes ICC should ban sledging. As to when they
will come around to it, one never knows.

But our main aim should be peformance b4 we resort
to such things as sledging which IMHO is unnecessary
even if one is on top.

Shiva IYER
081007


CricketLeague

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"Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Do we really have to ape the sledging by Australia?


What do you expect Indian players to do ??.........Let the aussie pigs ABUSE
their moms, wives, sisters and daughters ????

Why dont you call a SPADE a SPADE and argue for BANNING SLEDGING players
family members ???

> We don't. What we need really is to outperform them in the field
> rather than ape their sledging.


SLEDING and WINNING are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

Lets talk about AUSSIE SLEDGING FIRST........

>And sledging in
> any form, IMHO, should be banned.


GREAT.......Thats EXACTLY my point........Subcontinental MAFIA (I love the
word) should take control of ICC and CHANGE the FUCKING RULES that so far
have been FAVORABLE to Aus/Eng/NZ/SA players.

>And if we
> look at the cold hard facts now, Australia is outperforming
> everyone else CONSISTENTLY, save a smattering of
> losses here and there.


Because they have TALENT COUPLED with excellent coaching AS WELL AS PSYCHING
out OPPONENTS in the media even before the games start.....

> Let the Aussies do it their way and we will do it
> our way when it comes to off the ball and off the field
> etiquettes. They have a particular aspect of their
> sporting culture which we may not necessarily agree with
> and we will have our own with which we agree.


> And yes ICC should ban sledging. As to when they
> will come around to it, one never knows.
>
> But our main aim should be peformance b4 we resort
> to such things as sledging which IMHO is unnecessary
> even if one is on top.
>
> Shiva IYER
> 081007


SLEDGING should be COUNTERED with SLEDGING by Indian players since Indians
CANT RETALIATE with sending off batsmen or in SOME OTHER FORM....

Shiva IYER

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Oct 7, 2007, 9:01:59 PM10/7/07
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Dear CricketLeague:

I also believe that one should be more harsh and critical on one's own
only because one has nothing but goodwill and sincere desire for
the improvement of one's loved ones. One is more critical of one's
own children and kin as only genuine wellwishers can do out of
pure love. The way one chastises one's own, can one do that to
third persons? That, alas my friend, is the source of all strife and
hatred
and anger in this world.

Yes, one can write all that one wants, verbally bashing Aussies and
other cricketing
opponents of India, but what would that achieve? That is not in anyway
going to improve India's performance, which is critically lacking in
consistency.
And we have so much catching up to do with the cricketing level of the
Aussies.

Of couse, ur virulent verbal barrage would follow. But at least
for once try not to use foul language. Just my advice: Take it
or leave it.

With all good wishes
Shiva IYER
081007


Shiva IYER

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Oct 7, 2007, 9:09:23 PM10/7/07
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Also cricket league:

I have one more thing to add:

U have come-back lines for everything. As much as u have
ur own style of writing, one has to admit that u are man
of high intelligence (no sarcasm intended) and, IMHO, u should
make a very good attorney (who knows whether u are
not already one)

But just one question: Why use this God given high intelligence in
attacking people?? Why??

Shiva IYER
081007

will_s

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"Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Shiv,
You appear to be a gentleman and that is something that is becoming very
rare these days. I disagree with your views because I believe sledging adds
spice to the game.

Only a short reply but it the way I feel

Will

CricketLeague

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"Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dear CricketLeague:
>
> I also believe that one should be more harsh and critical on one's own
> only because one has nothing but goodwill and sincere desire for
> the improvement of one's loved ones. One is more critical of one's
> own children and kin as only genuine wellwishers can do out of
> pure love. The way one chastises one's own, can one do that to
> third persons? That, alas my friend, is the source of all strife and
> hatred
> and anger in this world.


I assume you are talking about US MURDERING 100,000 innocent Iraqis who have
NOTHING TO DO WITH 9-11

I agree with your point.


> Yes, one can write all that one wants, verbally bashing Aussies and
> other cricketing
> opponents of India, but what would that achieve?


I am MERELY RETALIATING to Aussie/Brit/NZ fans' UNJUSTIFIED support of
RACIST Darrell Hair who has already been PROVED as a LIAR by THREE WHITE
BRIT PLAYERS Boycott, Simon Hughes and Angus Fraser.

Why dont you PREACH those SERMONS to ALL the Hairassers COCKSUCKERS will_s,
alvey_shitcast, dechuka, Phil and the rest of the RACIST mafia on rsc

>That is not in anyway
> going to improve India's performance, which is critically lacking in
> consistency.


Indias performance problems are ALL TOGETHER a DIFFERENT MATTER.

This thread is about SLEDGING.


> And we have so much catching up to do with the cricketing level of the
> Aussies.


I agree but DEFINITELY NOT by Indians LEARNING baseball techniques.

Roflmao.......

> Of couse, ur virulent verbal barrage would follow. But at least
> for once try not to use foul language. Just my advice: Take it
> or leave it.
>
> With all good wishes
> Shiva IYER
> 081007
>


I dont need any advice from you for that matter from anybody else.

I myself usually ASK for ADVICE without feeling any ego when I NEED ONE.

CricketLeague

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"Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Also cricket league:
>
> I have one more thing to add:
>
> U have come-back lines for everything. As much as u have
> ur own style of writing, one has to admit that u are man
> of high intelligence (no sarcasm intended) and, IMHO,


I am NOT highly intelligent. I am very mature compared to all the immature
clowns I come across everyday.

> u should
> make a very good attorney (who knows whether u are
> not already one)


I am NOT an attorney but I do have natural skills of being an attorney.
Again that has NOTHING to do with INTELLIGENCE.


> But just one question: Why use this God given high intelligence in
> attacking people?? Why??
>
> Shiva IYER
> 081007
>
>


I ATTACK people who HIDE from FACTS, WHO engage in VICIOUS SPIN to DECEIVE
and MANIPULATE others resulting in INNOCENT people SUFFERING and REAL
CRIMINALS getting away.........

So my attacks are COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED.......

dechucka

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>
> "Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1191805763.5...@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> Also cricket league:
>>
>> I have one more thing to add:
>>
>> U have come-back lines for everything. As much as u have
>> ur own style of writing, one has to admit that u are man
>> of high intelligence (no sarcasm intended) and, IMHO,
>
>
> I am NOT highly intelligent. I

At last I agree with something CL has posted


CricketLeague

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"dechucka" <dech...@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
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That does NOT change the FACT that YOU are a LUNATIC RACIST AUSSIE DUMBCUNT

Shiva IYER

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Oct 8, 2007, 1:04:34 AM10/8/07
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Dear Will:
If we cannot even be civil (leave alone being gentlemen) here on a
forum like RSC,
how then can we have the right to criticize
high caliber cricketers who sometimes explode under the heat of the
situation at opponents or sometimes even at fellow players and
umpires.
How on earth can we ask for sledging to be banned if we cannot even
measure our words in a public forum.

Moreover, we are NOT under even a fraction of pressure situations on
RSC which
mandate that we should net-rage and abuse each other.

That's why I'm suprised as to why people expend themselves on such
minor disagreements here on RSC as if it is the end of the world..
There are so much bigger battles to fight in life.

We are always fighting a losing battle: Getting older all the time in
this
mindless rat-race of modern life, chasing false utopias and all the
time
heading closer towards death. And come what may, we can't get back
lost time, can't take back words wasted on anger and ego. (And esp
on written forums like RSC, the records are preserved forever.)
And to top all that, we take time to feed our egos on public forums
like RSC as to how much we know better than others.

Without spiritual direction (and this applies to whichever religion or
faith
we profess), everything is a waste and that my friend is
the biggest battle and purpose of our lives and that's where, IMHO,
our
battles need to be fought.

Cricket is life, but life is not cricket.

Best wishes
Shiva IYER
081007


>
> Shiv,
> You appear to be a gentleman and that is something that is becoming very
> rare these days. I disagree with your views because I believe sledging adds
> spice to the game.
>
> Only a short reply but it the way I feel
>

> Will- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


CricketLeague

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"Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dear Will:
> If we cannot even be civil (leave alone being gentlemen) here on a
> forum like RSC,
> how then can we have the right to criticize
> high caliber cricketers who sometimes explode under the heat of the
> situation at opponents or sometimes even at fellow players and
> umpires.
> How on earth can we ask for sledging to be banned if we cannot even
> measure our words in a public forum.


You just DONT GET IT, DO YOU Gandhian Indian Shiva IYER ??

SLEDGING gives an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE to PERVERTED WESTERN PLAYERS.......

When will YOU GET THIS SIMPLE LOGIC into your SKULL ?

Besides I am NOT a gandhian Indian to sit and watch ALL THE SPIN, RACISM,
DECEPTION and MANIPULATION of Aus/Eng/NZ/SA fans on rsc......

If my comments make you SAD, DONT READ THEM..........

You NEVER responded to my comments that great Indian fielders Yuvraj,
Uthappa, Sharma, Solkar, Azharuddin, Jadeja, Robin Singh, Raina NEVER
learned their skills from BASEBALL.........

You keep HYPING a JOKE of a game called baseball meant for AMERICAN PUSSIES
in cricket forum and you expect everybody to ACCEPT it......


> Moreover, we are NOT under even a fraction of pressure situations on
> RSC which
> mandate that we should net-rage and abuse each other.

In this link you said "And yes ICC should ban sledging"

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/11f0847418dc6e8d

and here you are SUPPORTING SLEDGING with STUPID LOGIC of comparing it with
my ANGRY comments...

You have ONE CONFUSED BRAIN.

> That's why I'm suprised as to why people expend themselves on such
> minor disagreements here on RSC as if it is the end of the world..
> There are so much bigger battles to fight in life.


BATTLING RACISTS on rsc and EDUCATING the rest of the Indians and opening
their SLAVISH EYES is WORTH IT.....

TRUST ME........

> We are always fighting a losing battle: Getting older all the time in
> this
> mindless rat-race of modern life, chasing false utopias and all the
> time
> heading closer towards death.


Govts COMMIT CRIMES against innocent people and destroy peoples lives for
decades and decades..........and I am NOT talking about dictatorships, I am
talking about the SUPPOSEDLY PROGRESSIVE, WESTERN FREE SOCIETIES......

For example:

If everybody follows YOUR THEORIES and PHILOSOPHIES and CLOSE THEIR EYES and
DO NOTHING about USA murdering innocent iraqis, TOMORROW IT WILL BE YOU and
YOUR FAMILY that will DIE whereever you live at the hands of CORRUPT EVIL
GOVTS


>And come what may, we can't get back
> lost time, can't take back words wasted on anger and ego.


I wont take back my words, I will stand by my words even in the future WITH
NO REGRETS.....

>(And esp
> on written forums like RSC, the records are preserved forever.)


REAL MEN takes responsibility for their words and actions.........


> And to top all that, we take time to feed our egos on public forums
> like RSC as to how much we know better than others.


Just like in ANY PROFESSION or FORUM.........I dont see anything wrong if
the person bragging is really knowledgeable....

> Without spiritual direction (and this applies to whichever religion or
> faith
> we profess), everything is a waste and that my friend is
> the biggest battle and purpose of our lives and that's where, IMHO,
> our
> battles need to be fought.
>
> Cricket is life, but life is not cricket.
>
> Best wishes
> Shiva IYER
> 081007

You are PREACHING SERMONS to a CERTIFIED RACIST called will_s........

Have you thought about how much time you WASTED just now replying to will_s
?


>>
>> Shiv,
>> You appear to be a gentleman and that is something that is becoming
>> very
>> rare these days. I disagree with your views because I believe sledging
>> adds
>> spice to the game.
>>
>> Only a short reply but it the way I feel
>>
>> Will- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>

--

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"Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dear Will:
> If we cannot even be civil (leave alone being gentlemen) here on a
> forum like RSC,
> how then can we have the right to criticize
> high caliber cricketers who sometimes explode under the heat of the
> situation at opponents or sometimes even at fellow players and
> umpires.
> How on earth can we ask for sledging to be banned if we cannot even
> measure our words in a public forum.
>
> Moreover, we are NOT under even a fraction of pressure situations on
> RSC which
> mandate that we should net-rage and abuse each other.
>
> That's why I'm suprised as to why people expend themselves on such
> minor disagreements here on RSC as if it is the end of the world..
> There are so much bigger battles to fight in life.
>
> We are always fighting a losing battle: Getting older all the time in
> this
> mindless rat-race of modern life, chasing false utopias and all the
> time
> heading closer towards death. And come what may, we can't get back
> lost time, can't take back words wasted on anger and ego. (And esp
> on written forums like RSC, the records are preserved forever.)


If it make you feel better, I really wouldnt mind a few 9-11s/11-9s in
Sydney, Adelaide, Melbourne, Perth and especially Brisbane if RACIST
alvey_shitcast gets INCINERATED while throwing a party to all his RACIST
MAFIA

I know this will be on public forums archives FOREVER...........and I DONT
GIVE A FUCK ABOUT IT......

> And to top all that, we take time to feed our egos on public forums
> like RSC as to how much we know better than others.
>
> Without spiritual direction (and this applies to whichever religion or
> faith
> we profess), everything is a waste and that my friend is
> the biggest battle and purpose of our lives and that's where, IMHO,
> our
> battles need to be fought.
>
> Cricket is life, but life is not cricket.
>
> Best wishes
> Shiva IYER
> 081007
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Shiv,
>> You appear to be a gentleman and that is something that is becoming
>> very
>> rare these days. I disagree with your views because I believe sledging
>> adds
>> spice to the game.
>>
>> Only a short reply but it the way I feel
>>
>> Will- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>

--

Rod

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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:16:32 -0000, Shiva IYER <om.sr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Certainly there could be a distinction made between light hearted


>teasing and abuse as u point. But too often in modern cricket we are
>witnessing indiviudals, especially these days, stray into the zone of
>personal abuse and even actions like waving the bat in anger towards
>the other party. More often, we see players making comments on
>personal lives of other players which you rightly say is unacceptable.
>
>Moreover, one can surely see more un-gentlemanly conduct in cricket
>these
>days compared to the days of old. Good hearted mild sledging could
>be part of Aussie sporting culture and that could translate into any
>culture in other forms of expressions and actions.

Not particularly. 25 odd years ago you had Lillee attempting to kick
Miandad and Miandad about to clobber him over the head with his bat.

Codes of conduct have been introduced to afford penalties to those
found in breach and are significantly harsher to those meted out to
Lillee.

Don't confuse sportsmen acting aggressively (particularly fast
bowlers) for anything more than what it is. I don't have Foxtel so I
haven't seen much of the ODO (not that I'd really want to, mind you)
and reading reports it seems more like a few verbals in the media and
a few chest beating exercises out in the middle. All in all, sounds
like a nice warmup for the upcoming test series.

Cheers,
Rod.

Rodney

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dechucka announced, disbelievingly:

Seconded. I was following your snip-war with mild amusement before it
lost its novelty.

--
Cheers,
Rodney Ulyate

"Geoffrey [Boycott] is the only fellow I've met who fell in love with
himself at a young age and has remained faithful ever since."
Dennis Lillee

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I hope you were able to GET YOUR NOODLE DICK up to FUCK YOUR PET DOGS and
PET CATS, Rodney.........

Shiva IYER

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Cricket-league:
>From ur posts, I believe that u are the same person
as the one who nicknamed under Benjamin Franklin. (Am I right??
and I was wondering what happened to him.)

Right now I'm reading Sundeep Misra's book on Indian Hockey
about that mercurial Indian forward Dhanraj Pillai titled
"Forgive me Amma" and here's a quote concerning Pillai from that well
written
book that may be relevant here.

"Genius and arrogance go together. Unfortunately, it is always the
arrogance that buries the genius" (Sundeep Misra)

I am telling u again (without sarcasm) that u are a very intelligent
man,
no doubt. A witty mind. Got comebacks and answers for everything.
But unfortunately for u, all that gets
buried under ur vituperative and inflammatory postings. And
unfortunately in this world, people only concentrate on
the short comings of a person, even if 99.99 % of that person's
qualities are really good. It would be a pity if an intelligent mind
like yours
gets quoted and misquoted for all the wrong reasons how much ever good
the actual intentions are in ur heart.

Of course, I know that u do not care. But maybe one day as time goes
by
u may wish that u could have done/said things a bit different, ESP ON
PUBLIC FORUMS.

If someone is being racist, u being racist back is NOT GOING TO
ACHIEVE A THING. Love and respect can MOVE MOUNTAINS my
friend. Here's an old Bollywood Kishore song from "Muqqadar ka
Sikandar"

Woh sikandar kya tha jisne, zulm se jeeta jaahan
Pyaar se jeete jo dilon ko, woh jhukha de aasman
Jo sitaaron par kahaani pyaar ki likh jaayega
Woh Muqqadar ka Sikandar jaaneman kehlaayega.

The power of our words is also amply illustrated in this line from
the
immortal Upanishads: OM-ITI-EKA-AKSHARAM-BRAHMA.
So one should treasure the words coming out of one's mouth
and in this case, the key-strokes.

And I'm not a meek Gandhian placating and supplicating
and wagging my tail like a dog to make friends with one and all:
If it comes to REAL and GRAVE injustice, I don't
believe in keeping quiet. That's what Krishna instructed the
warrior Arjuna in our Gita. But there is a way to do it
minus all the counter hatred and reckless actions and words.

Let us fight the bigger battles of life and not these trivial
difference of opinions on RSC.

S.Iyer
091007
www.sivaramhariharan.com
Satyam-eva-jayate


CricketLeague

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"Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Cricket-league:
>>From ur posts,

Why did you SNIP all my comments ?


>I believe that u are the same person
> as the one who nicknamed under Benjamin Franklin. (Am I right??
> and I was wondering what happened to him.)


I have no idea who Benyamin Franklin or the other shithead Sam path are. In
any case why dont you follow your own advice and worry about YOURSELF and
CHANGE YOURSELF instead of wasting your time complaining about me.

> Right now I'm reading Sundeep Misra's book on Indian Hockey
> about that mercurial Indian forward Dhanraj Pillai titled
> "Forgive me Amma" and here's a quote concerning Pillai from that well
> written
> book that may be relevant here.
>
> "Genius and arrogance go together. Unfortunately, it is always the
> arrogance that buries the genius" (Sundeep Misra)


Why are you telling me all this crap. I am NOT a genius in field hockey and
I dont care about Sundeep Misra.

> I am telling u again (without sarcasm) that u are a very intelligent
> man,
> no doubt. A witty mind. Got comebacks and answers for everything.


No idea what you are talking about. I am just an average fella with
maturity. Intelligent people NEVER get into trouble. Its the DUMB ones that
ALWAYS SUFFER in this world.


> But unfortunately for u, all that gets
> buried under ur vituperative and inflammatory postings. And
> unfortunately in this world, people only concentrate on
> the short comings of a person, even if 99.99 % of that person's
> qualities are really good. It would be a pity if an intelligent mind
> like yours
> gets quoted and misquoted for all the wrong reasons how much ever good
> the actual intentions are in ur heart.


I know that human beings are VERY IMMATURE. There is NOTHING I can do to
help them. If they attack and abuse me for my 1% inflammatory and
vituperative posts, WHAT CAN I DO ?

> Of course, I know that u do not care. But maybe one day as time goes
> by
> u may wish that u could have done/said things a bit different, ESP ON
> PUBLIC FORUMS.


What was DONE TO ME is a MILLION TIMES WORSE than what I have done by making
some comments on this forum.

> If someone is being racist, u being racist back is NOT GOING TO
> ACHIEVE A THING. Love and respect can MOVE MOUNTAINS my
> friend.


Dude, you just told me that people will ONLY FOCUS on the 1% BAD SIDE even
if one has 99% GOOD SIDE.

I LOST a lot in life because I tried moving mountains with LOVE and
RESPECT...........Trust me, it DOES NOT WORK and it will NEVER WORK.....


>Here's an old Bollywood Kishore song from "Muqqadar ka
> Sikandar"

> Woh sikandar kya tha jisne, zulm se jeeta jaahan
> Pyaar se jeete jo dilon ko, woh jhukha de aasman
> Jo sitaaron par kahaani pyaar ki likh jaayega
> Woh Muqqadar ka Sikandar jaaneman kehlaayega.
>
> The power of our words is also amply illustrated in this line from
> the
> immortal Upanishads: OM-ITI-EKA-AKSHARAM-BRAHMA.
> So one should treasure the words coming out of one's mouth
> and in this case, the key-strokes.


Its TOOOOO LATE...........I might as well go the whole hog.....


> And I'm not a meek Gandhian placating and supplicating
> and wagging my tail like a dog to make friends with one and all:
> If it comes to REAL and GRAVE injustice, I don't
> believe in keeping quiet. That's what Krishna instructed the
> warrior Arjuna in our Gita. But there is a way to do it
> minus all the counter hatred and reckless actions and words.

Ok what is that way to do ?

I am all ears..........


> Let us fight the bigger battles of life and not these trivial
> difference of opinions on RSC.
>
> S.Iyer
> 091007
> www.sivaramhariharan.com
> Satyam-eva-jayate
>
>
>
>

--

dechucka

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"CricketLeague" <Cricket...@USA.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1191883101.3...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Cricket-league:
>>>From ur posts,
>
> Why did you SNIP all my comments ?
>
>
>>I believe that u are the same person
>> as the one who nicknamed under Benjamin Franklin. (Am I right??
>> and I was wondering what happened to him.)
>
>
> I have no idea who Benyamin Franklin or the other shithead Sam path are.

another symptom of "ice" psychosis

snip


CricketLeague

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"dechucka" <dech...@vomithotmail.com> wrote in message
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Even lunatics think they are expert psycho-analysts I guess

dechucka

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snip
>
> Even lunatics think they are expert psycho-analysts I guess

you being the exception to your rule


alvey

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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:54:06 -0000, Shiva IYER wrote:

> That's the trillion dollar question these days.

Welll one of them anyway.
The first qustion you need to get satisfactorily resolved is 'What exactly
is sledging'?

alvey
in briz, not accepting 'What Australians do' as a definition.

Rodney

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Shiva IYER exhorted CricketLeague:

> From ur posts, I believe that u are the same person
> as the one who nicknamed under Benjamin Franklin. (Am I right??

You most certainly are.

> and I was wondering what happened to him.)

Tera News was down for a while, and that black-hearted allonym went down
with it.

Most inspiring, Shiva, but you're preaching to inconvertible.

--
Rodney Ulyate

"As in life so in death lies a bat of renown,
"Slain by a lorry (three ton);
"His innings is over, his bat is laid down;
"To the end a poor judge of a run."
An English gravestone

Shiva IYER

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Cricket League:

I throw up my hands in total defeat and despair.
As u have rightly said, I should have known better
than try to sermonize to u, an advice that I will
heed to the letter from now on.

Some people like me take longer than others to
learn and often they end up doing it the hard way..

Looking now at all these previous responses of mine
to u on this particular thread, I have indeed made a total fool
of myself ... I can't help but laugh at myself.

A lesson that I have learnt now for sure.

Best wishes
Shiva IYER
101007
Satyam-eva-jayate

rodney...@gmail.com

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On Oct 8, 6:06 pm, "CricketLeague" <CricketlLea...@USA.com> wrote:
> "Rodney" <rodney.uly...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:470a0db2$0$26378$8826...@free.teranews.com...
> > dechucka announced, disbelievingly:
> >> "CricketLeague" <CricketlLea...@USA.com> wrote in message
> >>news:4709819e$0$26392$8826...@free.teranews.com...
> >>> "Shiva IYER" <om.srig...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >>>news:1191805763.5...@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> >>>> Also cricket league:
> >>>> I have one more thing to add:
> >>>> U have come-back lines for everything. As much as u have
> >>>> ur own style of writing, one has to admit that u are man
> >>>> of high intelligence (no sarcasm intended) and, IMHO,
> >>> I amNOThighly intelligent. I

> >> At last I agree with something CL has posted
> > Seconded. I was following your snip-war with mild amusement before it lost
> > its novelty.
> I hope you were able to GET YOUR NOODLE DICK up to FUCK YOUR PET DOGS and
> PET CATS, Rodney.........

The aptly-monickered CretinLeague*, taking to all-new depths the
piteous perversions for which we've come to hate him, barfed:


> "Rodney" <rodney...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:470a0db2$0$26378$8826...@free.teranews.com...
>> dechucka announced, disbelievingly:
>>> "CricketLeague" <Cricket...@USA.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4709819e$0$26392$8826...@free.teranews.com...
>>>> "Shiva IYER" <om.sr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1191805763.5...@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Also cricket league:
>>>>> I have one more thing to add:
>>>>> U have come-back lines for everything. As much as u have
>>>>> ur own style of writing, one has to admit that u are man
>>>>> of high intelligence (no sarcasm intended) and, IMHO,
>>>> I am NOT highly intelligent. I
>>> At last I agree with something CL has posted
>> Seconded. I was following your snip-war with mild amusement before it lost
>> its novelty.

> I hope you were able to GET YOUR NOODLE DICK up to FUCK YOUR PET DOGS and
> PET CATS, Rodney.........

Now why on Earth would you hope that? Surely bestiality ain't another
of your innumerable failings?

<pauses in queasy contemplation>

Erm ... on second thought, don't answer that. I've far more important
(and altogether less nauseating) things to sound you out about.

Ahem.

A feller of my established worldliness -- and, trust me, I've been
around -- comes across all types in life, and it's only natural that
some of them, like you, should be half-baked beatniks. However, being
a reasonably tolerant bloke, that really doesn't bother me.

Where I do have a problem, however, is in that one essential
ingredient which separates you from the rest of your brainless ilk:
with them, there's at least *some* glow of moral fibre sparkling
through the anaemic mist; with you ... well, you're just anaemia
incarnate, aren't you?

Basically what I'm trying to say (unsuccessfully, I'm sure) is that,
where most members of your perplexing species are endowed with balls
(those globose incarnations of courage and honesty), you,
emphatically, aren't.

Still, I've been having very little trouble of late with your
cretinous cowardice, jejune jibes and servile slander -- primarily
because I'm not seeing them anymore. My killfile's been doing a quite
magnificent job of safeguarding my virgin eyes -- but, unfortunately,
its capabilities only extend so far: I can't killfile one Andrew
Dunford without killfiling the other.

Dechuka-inspired guilt aside, the main reason for my (probably only
temporary) deletion of that killfile is really quite simple: I want to
make a direct and explicit request to your most prolifically defective
identity (and, what the heck, I'll capitalise it, too):

IF YOU WANT TO BEHAVE LIKE A PESTILENTIAL DUNDERHEAD, KINDLY REFRAIN
FROM DOING SO UNDER THE NAME OF ONE WHO ISN'T.

Unlike poor Shiva, I'm not naive enough to believe that this request
(capitalised though it is) will fall on open ears. So, after your
inevitable slip into that characteristic paroxysm of vitriolic
madness, and then prove yourself sadly incapable of bringing to an end
your ripping impersonations of Dunford, don't be overly surprised to
find Tera News a trifle less accommodating.

--
Rodney Ulyate

"I might be a shit cricketer, but I'm a shit cricketer in a
premiership team, which is more than any of you blokes can say."
Dave Nadel

* With apologies to Wog George.

rodney...@gmail.com

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That came out strangely (the result of a badly-made cut-'n'-paste from
my now-defunct Tera News account), but the meaning remains the same.

rodney...@gmail.com

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Shiva IYER wrote:
> Cricket League:
> I throw up my hands in total defeat and despair.
> As u have rightly said, I should have known better
> than try to sermonize to u, an advice that I will
> heed to the letter from now on.

I hope that that's not an apology, because you definitely don't owe
him one.

> Some people like me take longer than others to
> learn and often they end up doing it the hard way.

> Looking now at all these previous responses of mine
> to u on this particular thread, I have indeed made a total fool
> of myself ... I can't help but laugh at myself.

CretinLeague's the laughingstock.

> A lesson that I have learnt now for sure.

Indeed.

--
Rodney Ulyate

"Three's a crowd."
Interstate cricket spectator

"Good crowd in."
Bill Lawry

CricketLeague

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<rodney...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The only man who stood up alone to virtual gods on this planet and beat the
crap out of them can never fail in anything. You dont think that guy has any
respect for you, do you ?

But you might think he respects you since you are one of those DUMBFUCKS who
think they are are ALL GENIUSES......

> <pauses in queasy contemplation>
>
> Erm ... on second thought, don't answer that. I've far more important
> (and altogether less nauseating) things to sound you out about.


Brits ABUSE Yankees to be STINKING SKUNKS, Yankees ABUSE Germans to be
STINKING SKUNKS, Germans ABUSE Brits to be STINKING SKUNKS.

American pussies clearly mention in their ads they are looking for
caucasians who does not STINK.

No wonder WESTERNERS spend BILLIONS OF DOLLARS on Perfumes and
Colognes..........

I am sure YOUR PET DOGS and PET CATS request you to use Colognes and
Perfumes when you FUCK THEM........

Enjoy YOUR MOM, SISTERS, WIFE and DAUGHTERS and your fellow PERVERTED
WESTERNERS "RAPING" ANIMALS

http://www.amateuralbum.org/

http://hqvirgins.com/galleries/animal/horse/hf2/a/a.html

http://www.xxxpower.net/

http://www.extreme-realm.com/

http://www.bestiality-porn-animals.com/

> Ahem.
>
> A feller of my established worldliness -- and, trust me, I've been
> around -- comes across all types in life, and it's only natural that
> some of them, like you, should be half-baked beatniks. However, being
> a reasonably tolerant bloke, that really doesn't bother me.
>
> Where I do have a problem, however, is in that one essential
> ingredient which separates you from the rest of your brainless ilk:
> with them, there's at least *some* glow of moral fibre sparkling
> through the anaemic mist; with you ... well, you're just anaemia
> incarnate, aren't you?
>
> Basically what I'm trying to say (unsuccessfully, I'm sure) is that,
> where most members of your perplexing species are endowed with balls
> (those globose incarnations of courage and honesty), you,
> emphatically, aren't.

Courage and Honesty ???

Westerners have removed those words from their dictionary eons ago.


> Still, I've been having very little trouble of late with your
> cretinous cowardice, jejune jibes and servile slander -- primarily
> because I'm not seeing them anymore. My killfile's been doing a quite
> magnificent job of safeguarding my virgin eyes -- but, unfortunately,
> its capabilities only extend so far: I can't killfile one Andrew
> Dunford without killfiling the other.
>
> Dechuka-inspired guilt aside, the main reason for my (probably only
> temporary) deletion of that killfile is really quite simple: I want to
> make a direct and explicit request to your most prolifically defective
> identity (and, what the heck, I'll capitalise it, too):

There are PLENTY OF INDIAN SLAVES here who are MIGHTY IMPRESSED with your
english vocabulary skills. They will SUCK YOUR NOODLE DICK for FREE.


> IF YOU WANT TO BEHAVE LIKE A PESTILENTIAL DUNDERHEAD, KINDLY REFRAIN
> FROM DOING SO UNDER THE NAME OF ONE WHO ISN'T.


Its like a MURDERER preaching virtues, ethics and morals to others.

No wonder the rest of the world has SO MUCH HATRED for you EVIL MURDERERS.

> Unlike poor Shiva, I'm not naive enough to believe that this request
> (capitalised though it is) will fall on open ears. So, after your
> inevitable slip into that characteristic paroxysm of vitriolic
> madness, and then prove yourself sadly incapable of bringing to an end
> your ripping impersonations of Dunford, don't be overly surprised to
> find Tera News a trifle less accommodating.
>
> --
> Rodney Ulyate
>
> "I might be a shit cricketer, but I'm a shit cricketer in a
> premiership team, which is more than any of you blokes can say."
> Dave Nadel
>
> * With apologies to Wog George.


You can NEVER IMPRESS ME.........Dont waste your time writing all that
english vocabulary.

CricketLeague

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<rodney...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> That came out strangely (the result of a badly-made cut-'n'-paste from
> my now-defunct Tera News account), but the meaning remains the same.
>


One can see how INTELLIGENT you are from this comment.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/8b24942bce69e610

You have so many INTELLIGENT FANS on this newsgroup, they even RATED and
RECOMMENDED this comment.

rodney...@gmail.com

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On Oct 10, 9:01 pm, "CricketLeague" <CricketlLea...@USA.com> wrote:
> <rodney.uly...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1192037209.4...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > On Oct 8, 6:06 pm, "CricketLeague" <CricketlLea...@USA.com> wrote:
> >> "Rodney" <rodney.uly...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:470a0db2$0$26378$8826...@free.teranews.com...
> >> > dechucka announced, disbelievingly:
> >> >> "CricketLeague" <CricketlLea...@USA.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:4709819e$0$26392$8826...@free.teranews.com...
> >> >>> "Shiva IYER" <om.srig...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>news:1191805763.5...@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>> Also cricket league:
> >>>>>> I have one more thing to add:
> >>>>>> U have come-back lines for everything. As much as u have
> >>>>>> ur own style of writing, one has to admit that u are man
> >>>>>> of high intelligence (no sarcasm intended) and, IMHO,
> >>>>> I am NOT highly intelligent. I
> >>>> At last I agree with something CL has posted
> >>> Seconded. I was following your snip-war with mild amusement before it
> >>> lost
> >>> its novelty.
> >> I hope you were able to GET YOUR NOODLE DICK up to FUCK YOUR PET DOGS and
> >> PET CATS, Rodney.........
> > Now why on Earth would you hope that? Surely bestiality ain't another
> > of your innumerable failings?
> The only man who stood up alone

Hm? When you're the only man, you're generally *always* alone.

> to virtual gods on this planet and beat the
> crap out of them can never fail in anything. You dont think that guy has any
> respect for you, do you ?

Which guy? You're not referring to yourself in the third person again,
are you? Or are talking about one from your multitudinous collection
of nom de plumes?

> > <pauses in queasy contemplation>
> > Erm ... on second thought, don't answer that. I've far more important
> > (and altogether less nauseating) things to sound you out about.
> Brits ABUSE Yankees to be STINKING SKUNKS, Yankees ABUSE Germans to be
> STINKING SKUNKS, Germans ABUSE Brits to be STINKING SKUNKS.

Ah.

> American pussies clearly mention in their ads they are looking for
> caucasians who does not STINK.

I see.

> No wonder WESTERNERS spend BILLIONS OF DOLLARS on Perfumes and
> Colognes..........

You don't say?

> I am sure YOUR PET DOGS and PET CATS request you to use Colognes and
> Perfumes when you FUCK THEM........

This might come as a horrific shock to you (being a deluded ice-addict
and all), but dogs and cats don't actually speak.

> Enjoy YOUR MOM, SISTERS, WIFE and DAUGHTERS and your fellow PERVERTED
> WESTERNERS "RAPING" ANIMALS

No thanks. I find it worrying (but not at all surprising) that you
know where to find that stuff.

> > Basically what I'm trying to say (unsuccessfully, I'm sure) is that,
> > where most members of your perplexing species are endowed with balls
> > (those globose incarnations of courage and honesty), you,
> > emphatically, aren't.
> Courage and Honesty ???

Yes, fool; that's what it said.

> Westerners have removed those words from their dictionary eons ago.

I'll think you'll find that they didn't.

> > Dechuka-inspired guilt aside, the main reason for my (probably only
> > temporary) deletion of that killfile is really quite simple: I want to
> > make a direct and explicit request to your most prolifically defective
> > identity (and, what the heck, I'll capitalise it, too):
> There are PLENTY OF INDIAN SLAVES here who are MIGHTY IMPRESSED with your
> english vocabulary skills. They will SUCK YOUR NOODLE DICK for FREE.

No thanks.

> > IF YOU WANT TO BEHAVE LIKE A PESTILENTIAL DUNDERHEAD, KINDLY REFRAIN
> > FROM DOING SO UNDER THE NAME OF ONE WHO ISN'T.
> Its like a MURDERER preaching virtues, ethics and morals to others.

An odd analogy. What is it makes you think that I'm a murderer. I
confess to having slain a few 'roaches in my time, but that doesn't
count, surely.

> No wonder the rest of the world has SO MUCH HATRED for you EVIL MURDERERS.

I need not inform you that they feel the same way about you and your
bestial inclinations.

> > "I might be a shit cricketer, but I'm a shit cricketer in a
> > premiership team, which is more than any of you blokes can say."
> > Dave Nadel
> > * With apologies to Wog George.
> You can NEVER IMPRESS ME.........

Of course not, but I can *confuse* you, and that's always great fun.

rodney...@gmail.com

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On Oct 10, 9:03 pm, "CricketLeague" <CricketlLea...@USA.com> wrote:
> <rodney.uly...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:1192037495.8...@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> > That came out strangely (the result of a badly-made cut-'n'-paste from
> > my now-defunct Tera News account), but the meaning remains the same.
> One can see how INTELLIGENT you are from this comment.
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/8b24942bce69e610

Indeed.

> You have so many INTELLIGENT FANS on this newsgroup, they even RATED and
> RECOMMENDED this comment.

"They"? Only one poster ranked it.

CricketLeague

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<rodney...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 10, 9:03 pm, "CricketLeague" <CricketlLea...@USA.com> wrote:
>> <rodney.uly...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1192037495.8...@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> > That came out strangely (the result of a badly-made cut-'n'-paste from
>> > my now-defunct Tera News account), but the meaning remains the same.
>> One can see how INTELLIGENT you are from this comment.
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/8b24942bce69e610
>
> Indeed.


Yup......one more time for you.....

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/8b24942bce69e610


>> You have so many INTELLIGENT FANS on this newsgroup, they even RATED and
>> RECOMMENDED this comment.
>
> "They"? Only one poster ranked it.

Dumb me and my English......I must be an uncivilized subcontinental like
SreeSanth and you are a SECULAR, PEACEFUL and TRANQUIL westerner...

CricketLeague

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<rodney...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I do refer to myself in 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th.........infinity
person. You gotta problem with that GENIUS Rodney ?

> are you? Or are talking about one from your multitudinous collection
> of nom de plumes?


You are WASTING YOUR TIME and ENERGY trying to IMPRESS ME...........

Indian SLAVES here will SUCK YOUR NOODLE DICK for free FOR YOUR english
vocabulary skills.....

>> > <pauses in queasy contemplation>
>> > Erm ... on second thought, don't answer that. I've far more important
>> > (and altogether less nauseating) things to sound you out about.
>> Brits ABUSE Yankees to be STINKING SKUNKS, Yankees ABUSE Germans to be
>> STINKING SKUNKS, Germans ABUSE Brits to be STINKING SKUNKS.
>
> Ah.

STINKING Yanks, Brits and German men MUST be NAUSEATING for their women like
YOU are to your WIFE.....

>> American pussies clearly mention in their ads they are looking for
>> caucasians who does not STINK.
>
> I see.


But American pussies think African NIGGERS STINK TOO.......

>> No wonder WESTERNERS spend BILLIONS OF DOLLARS on Perfumes and
>> Colognes..........
>
> You don't say?


STUPID CUNT

>> I am sure YOUR PET DOGS and PET CATS request you to use Colognes and
>> Perfumes when you FUCK THEM........
>
> This might come as a horrific shock to you (being a deluded ice-addict
> and all), but dogs and cats don't actually speak.


They DO since you STINK THAT MUCH when you RAPE THEM in the privcacy of your
home

>> Enjoy YOUR MOM, SISTERS, WIFE and DAUGHTERS and your fellow PERVERTED
>> WESTERNERS "RAPING" ANIMALS
>
> No thanks. I find it worrying (but not at all surprising) that you
> know where to find that stuff.

http://www.amateuralbum.org/

http://hqvirgins.com/galleries/animal/horse/hf2/a/a.html

http://www.xxxpower.net/

http://www.extreme-realm.com/

http://www.bestiality-porn-animals.com/

Keeping track of WHAT THE WESTERN PERVERTS like YOU do is MY JOB

Check out those websites, you might find YOUR MOM, WIFE and DAUGHTERS in
some of those videos.......

I am sure the DEVELOPED, CIVILIZED, SECULAR, PEACEFUL, TRANQUIL, PROGRESSIVE
WESTERNERS have SO MUCH TO TEACH the UNCIVILIZED subcontinentals........

LoL...........


>> > Basically what I'm trying to say (unsuccessfully, I'm sure) is that,
>> > where most members of your perplexing species are endowed with balls
>> > (those globose incarnations of courage and honesty), you,
>> > emphatically, aren't.
>> Courage and Honesty ???
>
> Yes, fool; that's what it said.


YES GENIUS Rodney, thats what I am SURPRISED and SHOCKED about.......

I guess COURAGE is DEFINED as MURDERING people on the ground with LASER
GUIDED BOMBS from the SKY and then calling the dead "COLLATERAL DAMAGE"

Roflmao..........

>> Westerners have removed those words from their dictionary eons ago.
>
> I'll think you'll find that they didn't.


They DID.........

COURAGE is DEFINED as MURDERING people on the ground with LASER GUIDED BOMBS
from the SKY from F-16s and then calling the dead "COLLATERAL DAMAGE"

>> > Dechuka-inspired guilt aside, the main reason for my (probably only
>> > temporary) deletion of that killfile is really quite simple: I want to
>> > make a direct and explicit request to your most prolifically defective
>> > identity (and, what the heck, I'll capitalise it, too):
>> There are PLENTY OF INDIAN SLAVES here who are MIGHTY IMPRESSED with your
>> english vocabulary skills. They will SUCK YOUR NOODLE DICK for FREE.
>
> No thanks.


Then why the FUCK are you SPENDING so much time SHOWING OFF YOUR ENGLISH
VOCABULARY SKILLS on a cricket newsgroup ??

>> > IF YOU WANT TO BEHAVE LIKE A PESTILENTIAL DUNDERHEAD, KINDLY REFRAIN
>> > FROM DOING SO UNDER THE NAME OF ONE WHO ISN'T.
>> Its like a MURDERER preaching virtues, ethics and morals to others.
>
> An odd analogy. What is it makes you think that I'm a murderer. I
> confess to having slain a few 'roaches in my time, but that doesn't
> count, surely.


And you think you are an ENGLISH LANGAUGE EXPERT..........LoL.......

>> No wonder the rest of the world has SO MUCH HATRED for you EVIL
>> MURDERERS.
>
> I need not inform you that they feel the same way about you and your
> bestial inclinations.


I did NOT see ANY subcontinentals on these websites.......

http://www.amateuralbum.org/

http://hqvirgins.com/galleries/animal/horse/hf2/a/a.html

http://www.xxxpower.net/

http://www.extreme-realm.com/

http://www.bestiality-porn-animals.com/

>> > "I might be a shit cricketer, but I'm a shit cricketer in a


>> > premiership team, which is more than any of you blokes can say."
>> > Dave Nadel
>> > * With apologies to Wog George.
>> You can NEVER IMPRESS ME.........
>
> Of course not, but I can *confuse* you, and that's always great fun.

You can NEVER CONFUSE me if I focus 100% of the time on WHAT YOU DO........

You know that for a FACT, I know that for a FACT.........

rodney...@gmail.com

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The sick baffoon that is CretinLeague (and Benjamin Franklin and
Sampath and Kunal and ManlyGame and Andrew Dunford's impostor)
confessed:

You visit them often, then?

--
Rodney Ulyate

"What know they of cricket who only cricket know?
C.L.R. James

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