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What's the REAL story behind Nayan Mongia?

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Cricketer

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Oct 23, 2001, 7:38:53 PM10/23/01
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It has been said that the senior players don't like his attitude. Does
anyone know of any specific incidents that led to this? I heard he had some
conflict with Ganguly before the Chennai test because he thought he'd be
playing but wasn't chosen? What's the REAL story? What is it about Nayan
Mongia that rubs the players or the selectors the wrong way?


Prasad Shetty

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Oct 23, 2001, 9:58:55 PM10/23/01
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What is it about Nayan
> Mongia that rubs the players or the selectors the wrong way?

It rubs the fans the wrong way too. When people talk of attitude ( or a lack
of it ) they talk of incidents on the field, rather than off. I remember one
incident in one of those (meaningless) sharjah cups where we were chasing a
large total, Mongia and Azhar/Jadeja were at the crease. Mongia didn't show
a hint of urgency, nor refused to rotate strike. didn't take singles where
two's were possible, let alone ones. Little things like these, show his lack
of heart and willingness for the team cause. Its almost like he thinks about
himself everytime he comes out to bat.
Of course, there is this one incident some columnist mentioned in rediff (
which you might have read by now ) I don't remember if this is what happened
exactly, someone pls confirm..

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2001/oct/22guest.htm
"Remember the drama during the last over on Day 2 of the First Test between
India and Australia at Bombay? Mongia got hit on his finger, on the first
ball of the day's last over. Instead of playing out the remaining balls
calmly, he refused to play any further! Sachin walked in for the last five
balls! Agreed the ball hit him severely; agreed the injury could have got
critical. But with five balls remaining, how serious would it really have
got? Couldn't the guy stand there with a bit of determination, a bit of
heart, a bit of 'positive' attitude and go through for the remaining five
deliveries? For heaven's sake, it was the Wankhede pitch not the Perth
wicket!! Sachin must have surely told himself that I'm batting tomorrow, but
now had to go because Mongia had come back with unfinished business! It's no
big deal for the little master to switch his mindset, but the question
arises,did Mongia do the right thing? You ask me, I say no! "

Augustus Fink-Nottle

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Oct 24, 2001, 1:51:34 AM10/24/01
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umm. Wasnt this the same chap whose name came up during the
match-fixing scandal? There are too many Mongias so I hope I am
not confusing him with another. But in any case, it is possible that
he may have (unofficially) lost the trust of the board and the team.
This is mere conjecture on my part.

- Gussie

Thavash

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Oct 24, 2001, 2:48:22 AM10/24/01
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I heard Sunil Gavaskar commentating on South African TV on the SA/ Kenya
match and
Robin Jackman asked him about what happened to Nayan Mongia.
His reply was that although Mongia was probably the best keeper in India
they need an all-rounder
who can bat well. Also they are looking towards the 2003 World Cup


Cricketer

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Oct 24, 2001, 3:53:15 AM10/24/01
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Looks like Gavaskar gave an evasive answer as well. Mongia batting is as
good/bad as that of his rivals.

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Cricketer

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Oct 24, 2001, 3:54:27 AM10/24/01
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There has got to be something more than just this. But in the media most
people don't seem to know the reason either.


Cricketer

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Oct 24, 2001, 3:58:34 AM10/24/01
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Extract From:
http://in.sports.yahoo.com/011024/57/17bt0.html

"It’s very disappointing and hard to believe that this has happened,” Mongia
said. “I was very confident about making it (to the South Africa-bound Test
team.) I had a good run in the Irani Trophy and my chances looked bright.
But this disappointment is part of the game and I have to take in my stride
and keep playing and performing well,” said the Indian wicketkeeper after
his Sun-Grace team’s manager Anant Joshi broke the news of his omission at
tea time yesterday.

Mongia is unclear about the reasons for his omission — be it cricketing or
external. “I can’t point a finger on anything. I have no idea of what the
reasons are, but I know that once I have the reasons, I will work towards
clearing those flaws if there are any,” he said.


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Wombat

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Oct 24, 2001, 4:44:27 AM10/24/01
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"Cricketer" <cric...@domain.com> wrote in message
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I believe there was also an incident in the recent series against Australia
where he batted in his domestic team's (Tamil Nadu?) yellow helmet, rather
than the navy blue helmet of India, despite being asked by team managers not
to do so.

Wombat

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Cricketer

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Oct 24, 2001, 4:47:37 AM10/24/01
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> I believe there was also an incident in the recent series against
Australia
> where he batted in his domestic team's (Tamil Nadu?) yellow helmet, rather
> than the navy blue helmet of India, despite being asked by team managers
not
> to do so.

But that's a pretty petty reason for the supposed professionals in the team
management to dislike him so much.

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Wombat

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Oct 24, 2001, 5:24:26 AM10/24/01
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"Cricketer" <cric...@domain.com> wrote in message
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Batting in the wrong helmet on its own might be considered to be a fairly
minor thing, but I don't know of too many coaches, managers, selectors or
captains who take too kindly to any player defying a direct order.

Wombat

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R Saravanan

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Oct 24, 2001, 6:00:34 AM10/24/01
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I think Mongia is representing Baroda.(or MP?) but, certainly not from TN.
Also don't forget about his slow batting with Manoj Prabhakar. It seems
Sachin doesn't speak with Mongia after that incident...

saravanan.

Vishal Khullar

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Oct 24, 2001, 4:26:16 PM10/24/01
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Not to mention that incident during our last visit to SA..
It was during the first final (the one that got rained out)...he was batting
with Azhar (who was on 50 something)...and there was a mixup between the 2
players...and instead of sacrificing his wicket...he just stood his ground
at the non-striker's end and stared at Azhar as if saying "why shoud i be
out?"....even the then SA wicket keeper (Dave Richardson) gave him an
opportunity for him to sacrifice his wicket before taking off the stumps to
run Azhar out.

"R Saravanan" <rsar...@austin.ibm.com> wrote in message
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R Saravanan

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Oct 25, 2001, 2:02:31 AM10/25/01
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Interestingly, when the final was played the next day, he was axed from the
squad.. :-)
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