Dilip Doshi, Shivlal Yadhav, Laxman SivaRamaKrishnan, Sadanand Vishwanath .........
srinivas jasthi
I agree with Shyam P Talluri about Maninder Singh's career. But what about those unfortunate cricketers Dilip Doshi, Shivlal Yadhav and L.SivaRama
who promised much and but never could hang around. Whenever I think of those
unsung and unfortunate cricketers, the first to remember is Dilip Doshi, a gem
of a spinner no body in the last few years can match his rythm or deceptive
flight. The prime reason for the end of his career was the big names Sunil
Gavaskar, Bishen Bedi & to some extent Kapil Dev. Gavaskar never liked Doshi
in team, infact he went on to bring a Bombay street spinner Ravi Shastri all
the way to Newzealand for Doshi. As long as he was there Doshi lost his career.
Kapil took over the captaincy creating a great hope in Doshi, but he rather
preferred young Maninder, Kirti Azad or even the old Venkatraghvan for couple
of tests against Pakistan after worldcup-83, thus ending a promising spinners
career at the bud stage.
Another classic example of cricket politics is Shivlal Yadhav. Through
out his peak of career he was a prey to Gavaskar's classy politics. Though he
did play for some years under Kapil Dev's captaincy but it was almost dawn of
his career.
The interesting fact about little Siva's career was nobody can
ever exactly make out for his sudden loss of touch and flying into the
oblivion. It was rather very strange he was bowling superbly specially against
England in home series 1985. Nobody can ever forget his beautiful and match
winning spells in Benson & Hedges-1985 and the glorious spell against
Pakistan in Rothmans Cup first match which India managed to win despite scoringonly 129, the delivery he bowled to Imran was a real beauty.
Another interesting Combination with siva was the sharp and agile
wicket keeper Sadanand Vishwanath. Neither Kiran More or Vijay Yadhav or even
Kirmani can match Sadanand's sharpness.
It is rather unfortunate that a cricket playing country like India loose its
vast talents before the actually come good.
A tribute to those Young Cricketers who remained only "One day wonders".
Srinivas Jasthi.
--
Spaceman Spiff
says:
>
>flight. The prime reason for the end of his career was the big names Sunil
>Gavaskar, Bishen Bedi & to some extent Kapil Dev. Gavaskar never liked Doshi
that's odd. doshi introduced gavaskar to the future mrs. sunny in 1974 or
thereabouts so i would have thought that they would have been quite
friendly.
>
> Another classic example of cricket politics is Shivlal Yadhav.
>Through out his peak of career he was a prey to Gavaskar's classy politics.
gavaskar's captaincy. never again did he show that kind of form or wicket
taking ability.
>Though he did play for some years under Kapil Dev's captaincy but it was almost
>dawn of his career.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
huh??
Stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff
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> The interesting fact about little Siva's career was nobody can
>ever exactly make out for his sudden loss of touch and flying into the
>oblivion.
An alcohol problem, I believe. Very disturbing, if true, for one
so young.
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> The interesting fact about little Siva's career was nobody can
>ever exactly make out for his sudden loss of touch and flying into the
>oblivion. It was rather very strange he was bowling superbly specially against
>England in home series 1985. Nobody can ever forget his beautiful and match
>winning spells in Benson & Hedges-1985 and the glorious spell against
>Pakistan in Rothmans Cup first match which India managed to win despite scoringonly 129, the delivery he bowled to Imran was a real beauty.
>
> Another interesting Combination with siva was the sharp and agile
>wicket keeper Sadanand Vishwanath. Neither Kiran More or Vijay Yadhav or even
>Kirmani can match Sadanand's sharpness.
>
>It is rather unfortunate that a cricket playing country like India loose its
>vast talents before the actually come good.
>
>A tribute to those Young Cricketers who remained only "One day wonders".
These two spoiled their own careers. After the BH and Sharjah success these
two kind of took it for granted their place and never practised seriously.
Both had problems with alcohol and bad behaviour. Success at a very early
age spoiled their careers. At one point of time both were struggling to even
get into the state side. Though they tried to make a comeback they were never
the same again.
>Srinivas Jasthi.
Sincerely yours,
M.P.Premkumar
Shankar Naraynan
> Hi,
>
> I agree with Shyam P Talluri about Maninder Singh's career. But what about those unfortunate cricketers Dilip Doshi, Shivlal Yadhav and L.SivaRama
> who promised much and but never could hang around. Whenever I think of those
> unsung and unfortunate cricketers, the first to remember is Dilip Doshi, a gem
> of a spinner no body in the last few years can match his rythm or deceptive
> flight. The prime reason for the end of his career was the big names Sunil
> Gavaskar, Bishen Bedi & to some extent Kapil Dev. Gavaskar never liked Doshi
> in team, infact he went on to bring a Bombay street spinner Ravi Shastri all
> the way to Newzealand for Doshi. As long as he was there Doshi lost his career.
> Kapil took over the captaincy creating a great hope in Doshi, but he rather
> preferred young Maninder, Kirti Azad or even the old Venkatraghvan for couple
> of tests against Pakistan after worldcup-83, thus ending a promising spinners
> career at the bud stage.
> ----------
>Dilip Doshi got more than a fair share for representing his country.He got
his chance when Bedi,Chandra & Pras quit the scene.He was only a steady left arm
spinner.Having played in the English county league,he had the experience
but was not definetly not in the class of Bedi or in fact either Paddy Shivalkar
or Rajinder Goel.His only advantage was that he was about 5 years younger and
there were nobody to fill the vacuum.Moreover his fielding and batting abilitieswere strictly not of international class.
Maninder Singh anyday is a better spinner with a nice loop and a great arm
ball.His fielding and current batting status ( last year he got a Ranji 100 )
put him in a differnt league.
Doshi should rather consider him fortunate that Paddy Shivalkar and Rajinder
Goel were born a few years before him.Otherwise his only credentials would have been ,played for Northants ( or Nottinghamshire),ex-captain of Bengal.................
Doshi played for India well into his 30's and he was a ripe fruit when he
called it a day.
C.S. Sudarshana Bhat
>In article <1njlui...@crcnis1.unl.edu>, sja...@cse.unl.edu (srinivas jasthi)
>says:
>>
>>flight. The prime reason for the end of his career was the big names Sunil
>>Gavaskar, Bishen Bedi & to some extent Kapil Dev. Gavaskar never liked Doshi
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>that's odd. doshi introduced gavaskar to the future mrs. sunny in 1974 or
Not odd ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
Ciao.
Porky!
[...]
Siddharth Dasgupta
>In article <1njlui...@crcnis1.unl.edu>, sja...@cse.unl.edu (srinivas jasthi)
>says:
>>
>>flight. The prime reason for the end of his career was the big names Sunil
>>Gavaskar, Bishen Bedi & to some extent Kapil Dev. Gavaskar never liked Doshi
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>that's odd. doshi introduced gavaskar to the future mrs. sunny in 1974 or
>thereabouts so i would have thought that they would have been quite
>friendly.
I read a book review in a recent issue of India Today on Dilip Doshi's
book - I forget the name. The reviewer seemed to think Doshi was
complaining too much about his perceived unfair treatment in
Gavaskar's hands rather than concentrating on other aspects of the
game. The tenor of the book seems to indicate that things were not
very cordial between these two!
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Siddharth Dasgupta (s...@wag.caltech.edu) (818) 397-2725
Materials & Molecular Simulation Center, Beckman Institute, CALTECH,Pasadena
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Shashank Nemawarkar
>
> I agree with Shyam P Talluri about Maninder Singh's career. But what about those unfortunate cricketers Dilip Doshi, Shivlal Yadhav and L.SivaRama
>who promised much and but never could hang around. Whenever I think of those
>unsung and unfortunate cricketers, the first to remember is Dilip Doshi, a gem
>of a spinner no body in the last few years can match his rythm or deceptive
>flight. The prime reason for the end of his career was the big names Sunil
>Gavaskar, Bishen Bedi & to some extent Kapil Dev. Gavaskar never liked Doshi
>in team, infact he went on to bring a Bombay street spinner Ravi Shastri all
>the way to Newzealand for Doshi. As long as he was there Doshi lost his career.
>Kapil took over the captaincy creating a great hope in Doshi, but he rather
>preferred young Maninder, Kirti Azad or even the old Venkatraghvan for couple
>of tests against Pakistan after worldcup-83, thus ending a promising spinners
>career at the bud stage.
>
One needs to note the fact that Doshi was not at "the bud stage" of his career when
he got a chance to play in tests. In fact most of his career got overshadowed
by Bishen Singh Bedi, who was exactly the same type of bowler, unfortunately
during the same time span. Kirti Azad was not a substitute for Doshi, while
the recalled Venkataraghavan was an off-spinner like Shivlal Yadav.
Shashank
Bhaskar Natarajan
>>flight. The prime reason for the end of his career was the big names Sunil
>>Gavaskar, Bishen Bedi & to some extent Kapil Dev. Gavaskar never liked Doshi
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>that's odd. doshi introduced gavaskar to the future mrs. sunny in 1974 or
>thereabouts so i would have thought that they would have been quite
>friendly.
Yes, but 1974 was ages ago. By 1984 it is understandable if Sunny
developed a deep-seated grouse against Doshi ;-) ;-)
Cheers
Bhaskar
>Spaceman Spiff