Can non-striker batsman remove pads on last ball?

mr_go...@yahoo.co.uk

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Jul 20, 2014, 1:32:32 PM7/20/14

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Thinking of that "underarm bowl" limited overs Australia v New Zealand game thing years back;

If say in a one-day or T20 game, there is one ball left and a team need one more run, can the non-striker's end batsman quickly remove all of his pads and helmet etc so that he can run quicker and therefore have less chance of being run out?

(In fact can even the receiving batsman remove all of his protection too even if risking being hit so that both can run quicker? Is there are an actual rule saying you can't? If facing a spin-bowler it would be worth risking it)

I suppose though that the bowler would also be within his rights to then bowl that last ball when the batsmen were halfway through taking their stuff off!

Arindam Banerjee

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Jul 21, 2014, 1:00:05 AM7/21/14

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Good thoughts. Once Venkatraghavan while umpiring tried instinctively to catch a ball going past his head. I wondered what would have happened if he really caught it and then handed it to the bowler also instinctively say. Would that be out??

hamis...@gmail.com

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Jul 21, 2014, 1:11:42 AM7/21/14

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On Monday, July 21, 2014 3:00:05 PM UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
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> Good thoughts. Once Venkatraghavan while umpiring tried instinctively to
> catch a ball going past his head. I wondered what would have happened if he
> really caught it and then handed it to the bowler also instinctively say.
> Would that be out??

I believe you can be out caught if the ball bounces off an umpire so I'd assume so.
OTOH I suspect that the umpires would call dead ball once they stopped laughing and being mortified.

hamis...@gmail.com

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Jul 21, 2014, 1:13:41 AM7/21/14

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On Monday, July 21, 2014 3:32:32 AM UTC+10, mr_go...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> Thinking of that "underarm bowl" limited overs Australia v New Zealand game thing years back;
>
>
>
> If say in a one-day or T20 game, there is one ball left and a team need one
>more run, can the non-striker's end batsman quickly remove all of his pads and
> helmet etc so that he can run quicker and therefore have less chance of being
> run out?
>

Ricky Ponting did it at the end of a domestic 20/20 or one dayer a couple of years back.>

>
> (In fact can even the receiving batsman remove all of his protection too even
> if risking being hit so that both can run quicker? Is there are an actual
> rule saying you can't? If facing a spin-bowler it would be worth risking it)
>

I don't believe there's any rule saying what protective gear you have to wear.

>I suppose though that the bowler would also be within his rights to then bowl
> that last ball when the batsmen were halfway through taking their stuff off!

No he wouldn't. The bowler isn't entitled to bowl until the batsman is ready.

Sir Leslie Bottocks

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Jul 21, 2014, 1:47:17 AM7/21/14

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I believe he can go butt naked if he likes, although I'd leave on jock-strap
and box

Bob Dubery

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Jul 21, 2014, 3:25:47 AM7/21/14

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On Sunday, 20 July 2014 19:32:32 UTC+2, mr_go...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Thinking of that "underarm bowl" limited overs Australia v New Zealand game thing years back;
>
>
>
> If say in a one-day or T20 game, there is one ball left and a team need one more run, can the non-striker's end batsman quickly remove all of his pads and helmet etc so that he can run quicker and therefore have less chance of being run out?
>
>
>
> (In fact can even the receiving batsman remove all of his protection too even if risking being hit so that both can run quicker? Is there are an actual rule saying you can't? If facing a spin-bowler it would be worth risking it)

Where is all that kit going to go?

I don't believe a batsman has to wear pads etc, but once he is at the crease and so equipped if he starts shedding gear then where does it go? The fielding side have to stow unused helmets behind the keeper to minimise chances of the ball hitting it - but it's not their business to take care of the batsman's gear.

I'd think it'd be ruled out as time wasting.

willsutton

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Jul 21, 2014, 8:32:37 PM7/21/14

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are you sure of that ? I would think once the ball hit an umpire it
would be ruled dead ball .....

hamis...@gmail.com

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Jul 21, 2014, 8:38:46 PM7/21/14

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I wasn't completely certain (I remembered it as something I'd read that surprised me but that's different from being sure)

checking at
http://www.lords.org/mcc/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-32-caught-1/
3. A fair catch

Providing that in every case
neither (i) at any time the ball
nor (ii) throughout the act of making the catch as defined in Law 19.4, any fielder in contact with the ball is, as described in Law 19.3(b), touching the boundary or grounded beyond the boundary, a catch shall be considered to be fair if

<snip>
(d) a fielder catches the ball after it has touched an umpire, another fielder or the other batsman.

So yeah, you can be caught after the ball has hit an umpire.

jzfredricks

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Jul 21, 2014, 8:52:37 PM7/21/14

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On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:38:46 AM UTC+10, hamis...@gmail.com wrote:
> So yeah, you can be caught after the ball has hit an umpire.

I thought this was common knowledge!

As for an umpire CATCHING the ball, and handing/throwing it to a fielder... goodness, what a can of worms.

The main ump could call it dead if he ruled the players assumed it was dead (Law 23.1b) after he "caught" it.