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Some classic Navjot Sidhu commentary lines.

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Rats

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Jul 24, 2001, 6:56:37 PM7/24/01
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He has been using these quite frequently over the SL Triangular Tournament:

1) He's short, he's pokey and he's as agile as a cat.

2) He'll fight a rattle snake and he'll give the rattle snake two bites.

3) A pitch is like a wife. You never know how it's going to turn out.

I am sure there are a few more that I've missed. I hope someone can post
them.

For all NZers reading this; Navjot Sidhu = Murry Mexted of cricket!

I await in eager anticipation at what he'll be dishing out tonight!


Rocky Raccoon

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"Rats" <rats....@galen.co.nz> wrote in message
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[snip]

> I await in eager anticipation at what he'll be dishing out tonight!

Copied from Sulekha
india's last match against nz
"Newzealanders are like bicycles in the cycle stand, if one falls down
the complete row will be down"

in india's match against srilanka yesterday
"A good lather is half the shave..."

To martin crow in a match against new zealand -
"India is going to crush kiwis and martin will need a hanky at that
time" (later he offered a towel instead of hanky when nz scored 209)

a few of the bloopers from ol' Sidhu:

Commenting on Ganguly after he was out for a low score in the 2nd test
against Zimbabwe:
"...looks like a brooding hen over a china egg. "

In the midst of a verbal duel with Tony Greig:
"If ifs and buts were pots and pans,there would be no tinkers. "

Applauding Sodhi's fighting spirit:
"young ricky will fight a rattlesnake and give him the first two
bites.
"

and when Ricky took a wicket:
"He is flowing like a river -simply unstoppable "

In the midst of a verbal duel with Martin Crowe:
"wickets are like wives ,you never know which way they will turn. "

When India were 8 for no loss against New Zealand:
"The indians are going to make mincemeat of the Kiwis and eat them
with tomato sauce."

Other additions:
-- Bajji is awaiting the arrival of the spinners more eagerly than a
kid eyes lollypops in a sweet shop
-- How Murali manages to get the ball to spin through to the wicket is
like a jigsaw puzzle to me!

-- Dave Houghton: Eddo (Brandes) truly deserves this benefit match. He
has served the country's cricket well
Sidhu: I agree. That he has served his country for so long is a matter
of great CREDIBILITY.
-- Players like Sachin, Jayasurya - they are CENTRIFUGAL to their
teams' good performance.

-- Tony Greig: (on seeing a crow on the field) He's keeping a watchful
eye on matters
Sidhu: So many birds today. But i must tell you, I prefer birds of a
different variety. The 36-24-36 variety.

Hindustani

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Jul 24, 2001, 8:24:42 PM7/24/01
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Vinay Santurkar

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Jul 25, 2001, 12:35:16 AM7/25/01
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Since when did being an ex cricketer and knowing fluent English an
adequate qualification to being a commentator? The case of Joe Montana's
pathetic commentry in the NFL is a good case in point. Siddhu is too
smug and arrogant for my liking.

Vinay

Uday Rajan

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Jul 25, 2001, 10:56:57 AM7/25/01
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Rocky Raccoon wrote:
>
> in india's match against srilanka yesterday
> "A good lather is half the shave..."

Haven't seen Sidhu in a while...I assume he's not speaking
from first-hand experience here?
Oh, for the days of the Lala!

Jan Buxton

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Jul 24, 2001, 8:56:19 PM7/24/01
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"Rocky Raccoon" <rro...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> -- Tony Greig: (on seeing a crow on the field) He's keeping a watchful
> eye on matters
> Sidhu: So many birds today. But i must tell you, I prefer birds of a
> different variety. The 36-24-36 variety.

LOL!

Bit more interesting than Mark Nicholas and Ian Smith talking about
Hampshire then.

--
Jan


Matthew van de Werken

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Jul 25, 2001, 9:01:48 PM7/25/01
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Vinay Santurkar wrote:

I thought being smug and arrogant was a pre-requisite...

Cheers,
MvdW

Andrew Dunford

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Jul 26, 2001, 8:53:23 AM7/26/01
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"Rats" <rats....@galen.co.nz> wrote in message
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> He has been using these quite frequently over the SL Triangular
Tournament:
>
> 1) He's short, he's pokey and he's as agile as a cat.
>
> 2) He'll fight a rattle snake and he'll give the rattle snake two bites.
>
> 3) A pitch is like a wife. You never know how it's going to turn out.
>
> I am sure there are a few more that I've missed. I hope someone can post
> them.
>
> For all NZers reading this; Navjot Sidhu = Murry Mexted of cricket!

There was a good one from Ravi Shastri tonight: "the one danger man is these
two players".

He was referring to Yuvraj and Sodhi; Yuvraj was out next ball.

Andrew


R. Bharat Rao

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Jul 26, 2001, 11:28:55 AM7/26/01
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> Commenting on Ganguly after he was out for a low score in the 2nd test
> against Zimbabwe:
> "...looks like a brooding hen over a china egg. "

I dunno if Navjot actually meant to say what he did, but thats an absolutely
marvelous and witty quote... I mean, can you imagine, how p***ed a
hen would be after trying for ever so long to get a china egg to hatch??
(Read Ganguly and a string of Test failures...)

I guess Saurav was plenty steamed....

Bharat

--
R. Bharat Rao
E-mail: rao_b...@yahoo-nospam-this.com (remove "-nospam-this")
"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their
level and beat you with experience."

R. Bharat Rao

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Ahhh, the loin of Punjab... Actually, since that was his son,
I wonder what that made him? The washcloth of Punjab?
The loin of Kashmir? Interesting...

Despite his hilarious English, I though Lala actually some
very interesting things to say occasionally about the cricket
on the field. By far the best analyst (read "expert commentator")
from the halcyon days of cricket tv broadcast in India, was
Pataudi -- though he was very unapproachable and distant.
Watching him put down Fernando Perreira (sp?) -- he of
the "I want the tv to look up my nostrils" fame -- was great.
I remember FP going on about some great ball dismissing
a batsman, ending with "What do you think, Tiger?", with
a response -- "ordinary ball, terrible shot" (certainly true)..

The *worst* was Jaisimha -- Jai never committed himself
to anything -- always waited for the replay before saying
anything one way or the other -- and mouthed platitudes.
I'd take the loin over him any day...

Of the modern lot, I like Ravi Shastri and Harsha Bhogle;
both provide fairly balanced analysis -- coming across
as fans of the game, though both have a tendency to be
quite "homer"-ish -- guess its part of the job.

If you follow baseball, check out Vin Scully, who calls
games for the LA Dodgers on KWGN. The complete
package -- superb diction, encyclopaedic knowledge
of the game and its history, combined with the rare
ability to be objective about not only the opposition's
strengths, but also his own teams flaws. Baseball's
equivalent of John Arlott. (Scully also has that rare
ability among tv broadcasters to know when to keep
silent -- during great moments -- and let the pictures
tell the story.)

Who would you say is the doyen of (current) cricket
broadcasters?

Uday Rajan

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Jul 26, 2001, 12:36:17 PM7/26/01
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"R. Bharat Rao" wrote:
>
> Despite his hilarious English, I though Lala actually some
> very interesting things to say occasionally about the cricket
> on the field. By far the best analyst (read "expert commentator")
> from the halcyon days of cricket tv broadcast in India, was
> Pataudi -- though he was very unapproachable and distant.
> Watching him put down Fernando Perreira (sp?) -- he of
> the "I want the tv to look up my nostrils" fame -- was great.
> I remember FP going on about some great ball dismissing
> a batsman, ending with "What do you think, Tiger?", with
> a response -- "ordinary ball, terrible shot" (certainly true)..

Yes, Pataudi was among my favourite commentators. In
1981-82, in the Bombay Test, Eng had collapsed to 73/6,
chasing some 240 to win against India. Botham fell, so now
it's 73/7, and there are no batsmen left. Narottam Puri, who
was a little excitable that day for some reason (normally,
he wasn't), says to Tiger in a can't-control-my-excitement
voice, "So, Tiger, what do you think will happen now?" Very
slight pause, just long enough to let you infer <I can't
believe you just said that>, then Tiger replies "I think
we'll all be going home early".



> Of the modern lot, I like Ravi Shastri and Harsha Bhogle;
> both provide fairly balanced analysis -- coming across
> as fans of the game, though both have a tendency to be
> quite "homer"-ish -- guess its part of the job.

I like Bhogale. Shastri is a little over-the-top sometimes.
From the complaints about Gavaskar on this group, it seems
like I'm in a minority, but, of the Indian commentators, I
do find Gavaskar to be quite perceptive at times.


> If you follow baseball, check out Vin Scully, who calls
> games for the LA Dodgers on KWGN.

I don't follow live baseball, much. What little I've seen
is usually on ESPN, and Joe Morgan makes a decent expert, I
think.

> Who would you say is the doyen of (current) cricket
> broadcasters?

Don't really watch/listen to much cricket these days. I was
a big fan of Richie Benaud on TV, and
Arlott/Cozier/McGilvray on the radio. What little I've seen,
Gower makes a very "pleasing" commentator. Rather like his
batting. Since you have that 61" TV (thanks for the
correction, Kurt), who sounds good on it?

Rocky Raccoon

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"R. Bharat Rao" <rao_b...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Uday Rajan" <ura...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
> news:3B5EDE39...@andrew.cmu.edu...
> > Rocky Raccoon wrote:
> > >
> > > in india's match against srilanka yesterday
> > > "A good lather is half the shave..."
> >
> > Haven't seen Sidhu in a while...I assume he's not speaking
> > from first-hand experience here?
> > Oh, for the days of the Lala!
>
> Ahhh, the loin of Punjab... Actually, since that was his son,
> I wonder what that made him? The washcloth of Punjab?
> The loin of Kashmir? Interesting...
>
> Despite his hilarious English, I though Lala actually some
> very interesting things to say occasionally about the cricket
> on the field.

Salim Durani was hilarious. He used to say "Rogers Binny" &
"Marshall Malcomn"

samarth harish shah

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My grandfather still says "Bothan" and "Imram", despite our correcting him
for nearly 20 years now. :-) Luckily he's not a commentator.

-Samarth.

Ravi Krishna

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rro...@bigfoot.com says...

>Salim Durani was hilarious. He used to say "Rogers Binny" &
>"Marshall Malcomn"

Lala Amarnath always use to call Mudassar Nazar as Nazar Mohd (his
father who use to play with Lala during pre partition days).

RK-

Aslam Siddiqui

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Welcome back! I hope you had a good time in Toronto. I happened to see your
name in the Daily Bulletin a couple of times - at the ACBL site, couldn't
make it over there myself this time.

aslam

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Amol Cricketwallah

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"R. Bharat Rao" <rao_b...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<UPW77.1993$ym4....@iad-read.news.verio.net>...

>
> Despite his hilarious English, I though Lala actually some
> very interesting things to say occasionally about the cricket
> on the field. By far the best analyst (read "expert commentator")
> from the halcyon days of cricket tv broadcast in India, was
> Pataudi -- though he was very unapproachable and distant.
> Watching him put down Fernando Perreira (sp?) -- he of
> the "I want the tv to look up my nostrils" fame -- was great.

Huh. Who? I dont remember this guy at all.

> I remember FP going on about some great ball dismissing
> a batsman, ending with "What do you think, Tiger?", with
> a response -- "ordinary ball, terrible shot" (certainly true)..
>

Tiger was great - he didnt bother about soundbites for the TV, and
just told you what he actually thought (which was usually quite
perceptive). I last heard him in the early 90s, where for a while they
tried him out as a *Hindi* commentator! He was doing some stuff with
Jasdev Singh. Sheesh. *That* was a waste - but then those were the
same days they tried Shastri as a Hindi expert for a bit as well (when
the Hindi commentators rotation came up), and he was the worst you'll
ever hear, mostly because he cant speak Hindi for toffee :-) Used to
struggle along mightily with some Bambaiyya Hindi, with lots of English
thrown in out of desperation ("aur unhe try karna chahiye, ki woh lots of
singles and twos work kar sake" :-)


>
> Of the modern lot, I like Ravi Shastri and Harsha Bhogle;
> both provide fairly balanced analysis -- coming across
> as fans of the game, though both have a tendency to be
> quite "homer"-ish -- guess its part of the job.
>

Shastri was an excellent expert in his early days, with some very
perceptive analysis. Unfortunately I think he's doing less of that
these days, and much more of "commentating", while working with
another analyst. I much preferred the old days when a commentator
worked with an "expert", rather than 2 former-player-experts
together.


> If you follow baseball, check out Vin Scully, who calls
> games for the LA Dodgers on KWGN. The complete
> package -- superb diction, encyclopaedic knowledge
> of the game and its history, combined with the rare
> ability to be objective about not only the opposition's
> strengths, but also his own teams flaws. Baseball's
> equivalent of John Arlott. (Scully also has that rare
> ability among tv broadcasters to know when to keep
> silent -- during great moments -- and let the pictures
> tell the story.)
>

Scully is a legend, but then he's been doing it for 50 years :-)
If you think he is good on TV, you should hear him on the radio!
Brilliant. Best way to spend a late summer afternoon :-) A couple yrs
ago the radio guys here picked him up for the World Series, and it
was awesome to just turn down the TV sound and listen to him do it
over the radio while one watched.

Of the young guys, I really do like Pat Hughes :-)

> Who would you say is the doyen of (current) cricket
> broadcasters?
>

There isnt one. Benaud, probably, but he's really getting on, and as
a former player should really qualify more as a "colour" man IMHO. For
pure commentators, there arent any good ones around at the moment, I
dont think.

Though if you want really *bad* ones, you should have listened to a
couple of Indian journos over the internet in Zimbabwe - Ashish Shukla,
and especially Joseph Hoover. Wow :-)

Sadiq [ who, by the end of the Ind/Aus series,
started turning down the sound for 20
minutes the moment Tony Grieg appeared ] Yusuf


> Bharat

Amol Cricketwallah

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"Rocky Raccoon" <rro...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:<9jpl1m$qgba$1...@ID-27262.news.dfncis.de>...

>
> Salim Durani was hilarious. He used to say "Rogers Binny" &
> "Marshall Malcomn"

No he didnt! It was Ro-jus Binny, and Mar-shuls Male-com.

Giving rise to one of my all-time memorable commentary listens while I
was in the next room. When I *swear* I heard "Mar-shuls Male-com, Ro-jus
Binny ko, aur yeh hook shot, cover boundary, chaar run! Bahut khoobsoorat
shot! "

Since I was in the next room, I still havent figured out precisely what
happened on that ball. Did the hook shot actually go to the cover
fence? If so, how did it simultaneously manage to be a beautiful shot?


Sadiq [ who still wonders about it sometimes ] Yusuf

samarth harish shah

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On 26 Jul 2001, Amol Cricketwallah wrote:

> "R. Bharat Rao" <rao_b...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<UPW77.1993$ym4....@iad-read.news.verio.net>...
> >
> > Despite his hilarious English, I though Lala actually some
> > very interesting things to say occasionally about the cricket
> > on the field. By far the best analyst (read "expert commentator")
> > from the halcyon days of cricket tv broadcast in India, was
> > Pataudi -- though he was very unapproachable and distant.
> > Watching him put down Fernando Perreira (sp?) -- he of
> > the "I want the tv to look up my nostrils" fame -- was great.
>
> Huh. Who? I dont remember this guy at all.

Yeah, neither can I. The closest I can think of is Feredun Divetre (sp?).
But the two names really aren't very similar at all.

-Samarth.

Ravi Krishna

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Jul 26, 2001, 8:19:10 PM7/26/01
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Aslam,

When I was waiting for Bharat Rao at the lobby of the hotel, I
saw a list of all participants of ACBL. Something was telling
me that there is a rscer who plays Bridge at the national level,
but I couldn't recollect at that time.Now I recollect. It was you.

Now only if I could have met you along with Bharat :-(.

RK-

asid...@iupui.edu says...

R. Bharat Rao

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> On 26 Jul 2001, Amol Cricketwallah wrote:
>
> > "R. Bharat Rao" <rao_b...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > Despite his hilarious English, I though Lala actually some
> > > very interesting things to say occasionally about the cricket
> > > on the field. By far the best analyst (read "expert commentator")
> > > from the halcyon days of cricket tv broadcast in India, was
> > > Pataudi -- though he was very unapproachable and distant.
> > > Watching him put down Fernando Perreira (sp?) -- he of
> > > the "I want the tv to look up my nostrils" fame -- was great.
> >
> > Huh. Who? I dont remember this guy at all.
>
> Yeah, neither can I. The closest I can think of is Feredun Divetre (sp?).
> But the two names really aren't very similar at all.
>
> -Samarth.

Good Lord; I really am getting on... it is Ferdenun (I think) -- of the
nostrils frame!

Bharat [who probably has met a more forgetful person that himself;
but forgets who that was]


R. Bharat Rao

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"Aslam Siddiqui" <asid...@iupui.edu> wrote in message
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> Welcome back! I hope you had a good time in Toronto. I happened to see
your
> name in the Daily Bulletin a couple of times - at the ACBL site, couldn't
> make it over there myself this time.

Had (having) a great time here Aslam... Returning Saturday...

Bharat


R. Bharat Rao

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"Uday Rajan" <ura...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
> Don't really watch/listen to much cricket these days. I was
> a big fan of Richie Benaud on TV, and
> Arlott/Cozier/McGilvray on the radio. What little I've seen,
> Gower makes a very "pleasing" commentator. Rather like his
> batting. Since you have that 61" TV (thanks for the
> correction, Kurt), who sounds good on it?

Alas, all the wretched KBS has shown is the India-Aus series;
though, I think that alone makes the whole thing worthwhile...

The best -- hard to answer. No one came across as being the
best. Bhogle didn't do the series, though he was pretty good
in the Ind-Pak series. No one as good; though Shastri had
some excellent insight at times -- particularly at Calcutta.

The worst -- thats easy -- Tony Greig; I muted the tv
volume when he was on -- thats how bad he was -- regardless
of who else was on the air. Manjrekar was also pretty bad;
making zero effort to hide his Mumbai bias -- and making
generally stupid statements in the process. (He tried excusing
Dighe's errors, calling them tough plays, and woofed up
Bahutule's bowling, at a time he bowled pretty ordinarily
Particularly, on the morning of Day 2, Chennai, when
Tendulkar and Harby mowed through the Aussies, with
Tendulkar going wicketless, he kept making a
case for Bahutule to be brought on.. --
though some of this criticisms of Ganguly's captaincy
regarding handling the bowling were on the mark.)

Shastri was competent, though he probably looked
better than he actually was in comparison... None of
the Aussie/English comms stood out as particularly
insightful or uninsightful either.

Tera Baap

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In article <a374a779.01072...@posting.google.com>, Amol Cricketwallah
says...

No one can beat Sushil Doshi for Hindi commentry. The way he used to build up
tension for every ball describing the field was great to hear on radio. I
also once heard him on TV commentating for a Tennis match
"Aur yeh sunder cross-court smash tippa Khaa Kar Baseline ke bahar" :-)


Vinay Santurkar

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"R. Bharat Rao" <rao_b...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Watching him put down Fernando Perreira (sp?) -- he of
> the "I want the tv to look up my nostrils" fame -- was great.
> I remember FP going on about some great ball dismissing
> a batsman, ending with "What do you think, Tiger?", with
> a response -- "ordinary ball, terrible shot" (certainly true)..

I think you are referring to Fredun De Vitre from Mumbai DD. I cannot
recall anybody called Fernando Perreira doing the cricket commentary.
Even Fredun was not a regular commentator but must have filled in a
test match at Mumbai. Actually Fredun was Mumbai DD's man for all
seasons for sporting events. He had a nice personality and had a
lively talking style.

> The *worst* was Jaisimha -- Jai never committed himself
> to anything -- always waited for the replay before saying
> anything one way or the other -- and mouthed platitudes.
> I'd take the loin over him any day...

There were guys like Akash Lal to run Jaisimha close. He was regular
during the Delhi test. The guy (Akash Lal) spoke with an American
twang.

Thanks,

Vinay

Vinay Santurkar

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Jul 27, 2001, 7:31:44 AM7/27/01
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samarth harish shah <shs...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
> Yeah, neither can I. The closest I can think of is Feredun Divetre (sp?).
> But the two names really aren't very similar at all.
>
> -Samarth.
>

Fredun De Vitre - it was I think. He was a regular on Mumbia DD. Not
much of a cricket commentator though. For those who remember Mumbai DD
in the 70's, Fredun was a legend. And John Crasto was a regular for
Hockey and Soccer.

Vinay

Amol Cricketwallah

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"R. Bharat Rao" <rao_b...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<_T887.2115$ym4....@iad-read.news.verio.net>...

> "samarth harish shah" <shs...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.GSO.4.31.01072...@ux11.cso.uiuc.edu...
> >
> > Yeah, neither can I. The closest I can think of is Feredun Divetre (sp?).
> > But the two names really aren't very similar at all.
> >
> > -Samarth.
>
> Good Lord; I really am getting on... it is Ferdenun (I think) -- of the
> nostrils frame!
>


Heh :-) *Him* I remember very well. Its Fredun De Vitre (sort of an
anglicized name, the usual Parsi version is Fardoon). He used to do
"Sportstime" on the telly as well, was much more a regular at that than
at cricket. Also compiled a little collection of cricket stories that
were published in book form (called "Willow Tales" or some such, IIRC).

He wasnt terrible, IMHO - could hold a conversation, at least :-)

Sadiq [ who even saw Narottam Puri on TV a couple months ago ] Yusuf

Amol Cricketwallah

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"R. Bharat Rao" <rao_b...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<R0987.2117$ym4....@iad-read.news.verio.net>...

> in the Ind-Pak series. No one as good; though Shastri had
> some excellent insight at times -- particularly at Calcutta.
>
> The worst -- thats easy -- Tony Greig; I muted the tv
> volume when he was on -- thats how bad he was -- regardless
>

If you can force yourself to struggle through writing by Raju
Bharatan,
the below is what he has to say on the subject.

Sadiq [ who made it thru an entire Raju
Bharatan article after several months ] Yusuf

-----------

All this brings home, visually arrestingly, how there has been an
ocean change in the lexicon of commentary by the U-turn of the
century. It is all of 75 years since C.P. Scott came up with his
famous point in the Manchester Guardian: ``Comment is free but facts
are sacred.'' Facts are no longer all that sacred on a TV where the
frenetic pace is set by Tony Greig. The height of hype is what the
tall-talking Tony represents, so that he could string you along
without your being even aware of it. Navjot, therefore, is best
counselled to keep his mike at arm's length when in Tony Greig's
intimidating company. Sidhu has stepped into the box-seat almost from
the theatre of action in the middle. This places Navjyot in a unique
position of vantage, I feel, as a commentator. It is for Sidhu, now,
to turn this happening into his priceless telecasting asset. Having
been the nation's opener till the other day, Sidhu has the kind of
ringside view that no other Indian commentator enjoys today. As a
movie song-buff, Vani Jairam's ``Bole re papihara'' is, I know, a
Navjot pet. As ``Hyperbole re papihara'' never must it be hummed.

I myself have been through this seat-occupational hazard, so I
instinctively know how tempting it could be for a fresher- commentator
to superimpose a pre-prepared text on the playing scene. Such an
approach to `live' commentary could become a dangerous fixation. ``We
are all Adam's children!'' is a turn of phrase that should spring from
the play. Repeated more than once, it loses its edge. Acknowledged
that Sidhu's strength as a commentator lies in emotion and passion.
Yet the alert commentator never commits himself to a set sentence in
advance. In fact, the norm, for the practised commentator, is to wait
for two-three seconds before making his pinpointed observation. There
are ways and ways of ensuring that such a calculated-commentary pause
remains a significant one on TV. See how Sunil Gavaskar delivers after
a pregnant pause! By now, Sidhu and Gavaskar have jousted sufficiently
often, on TV, for us to comprehend the nuances in their antithetic
attitude to the mike job in hand. Navjot is not expected to be Sunil.
Navjot must remain Navjot. And, within that ambit, devise a telly
idiom ensuring that the commentator does not have to eat his words
before lunch.Sidhu's command on the language is obvious. His gift of
expression is what one would expect from the son of an Attorney
General of Punjab. For all his polish here, Sidhu wears his heart on
his sleeve - a sleeve of which his bat was but an extension. But even
that six-happy Sidhu willow discerned, after the consecutive 1987
World Cup run of 73 vs Australia, 75 vs New Zealand, 51 vs Australia
and 55 vs Zimbabwe, that it needed Mohinder Amarnath, at the other
Test end, to guide it on stroke selection! Sidhu speedily learnt to
adapt his `stroking' technique to the situation centrepitch. So should
he now evolve a commentary vocabulary ringingly remote-controlled. If
Ravi Shastri continues to be current TV coin, it is because he has, by
now, brought a certain temperance to his tele-appearance. `Idiot
Box-Office' it looked as Ravi Shastri and Trevor Quirk came up with
that back-to-back gimmick, on TV, during a Test series, at home,
between India and South Africa. Ravi has travelled a long way since -
to evolve as `live' TV competition to Sunil Gavaskar. Moderation is
not the essence of modern-day television commentary, I know.
Otherwise, Tony Greig would not still be where he is. But Tony slips
into a saddle all his own. Tony is what I would call the dangerous
model. In fact, commentators as a tribe know that they have to be
ultra-watchful when they are doing duty in Tony's provocative company.
Seasoned commentators like Ian Chappell and Michael Holding have
turned, into a fine art, the craft of neutralising Tony Greig. In a
sense, Tony Greig has been even more tough for Sunil Gavaskar to take
on than Geoffrey Boycott. Geoffrey might make his point pungently. But
he still functions within the orbit of cricket.

In the case of Tony Greig, there is no knowing when he will drop a
clanger. And that, as co-commentators well know, is what accounts for
Tony's longevity in the box. Tony `caricatures' the game. That is his
very special punchline. He is not to be emulated. He is baiting fellow
commentators all the time. The thing to do is glibly to sidestep him -
all the way down to the barbed wire. For that is the emotionally
sensitive boundary-line of the game from where Tony, subtly and
impishly, endeavours to take the commentator, seated by his side, for
a joy-ride. This rollercoaster is best shunned on TV. Navjot Singh
Sidhu projects a persona that is telegenic enough already. All that he
has now to learn to do is to be `mikogenic', too, for the voice to
blend bountifully with the vision in the world's most demanding medium
- TV, unlovely TV.

---------

> Bharat

R. Bharat Rao

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> "R. Bharat Rao" <rao_b...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > in the Ind-Pak series. No one as good; though Shastri had
> > some excellent insight at times -- particularly at Calcutta.
> >
> > The worst -- thats easy -- Tony Greig; I muted the tv
> > volume when he was on -- thats how bad he was -- regardless
> >
>
> If you can force yourself to struggle through writing by Raju
> Bharatan,
> the below is what he has to say on the subject.

<tripe deleted>

Good Lord; that was worse than sitting through an hour of Tony.
Turgid doesn't even begin to describe Mr. Bharatan's prose...

Cricfan

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>
>
> Heh :-) *Him* I remember very well. Its Fredun De Vitre (sort of an
> anglicized name, the usual Parsi version is Fardoon). He used to do
> "Sportstime" on the telly as well, was much more a regular at that than
> at cricket. Also compiled a little collection of cricket stories that
> were published in book form (called "Willow Tales" or some such, IIRC).
>

Sheesh..and you guys were making fun of Durrani :-)

It is Fredun De Vitre (as in Portugese, not Bawa). And the name of the
programme was "Sports Round Up". The 'honour' of conducting this
programme was shared between Fredun and Milind Wagle. Much later,
Harsha Bhogle did a sports quiz on this show (or something similar on
Mumbai DD), became famous and the rest is history.

Another notable Pataudi - Fredun encounter during the 1981-82 test vs
Eng at Mumbai was the (in)famous Srikkanth run out on debut. Srikkanth
played a ball defensively and started walking merrily. Emburey at
silly point saw that he was out of the crease and promptly knocked the
stumps out.

Fredun: Amazing piece of alert fielding there by Emburey.
The Noob: It was very silly of Srikkanth really. Did he think he was
taking a walk down Juhu beach or something?

Soon after that test, Srikkanth walked, but towards square leg and
well within the crease :-)

A royal snub (RS) was when Fredun & Pat were paired in 1983-84 when WI
played India.
Fredun: And you know something else, Tiger? Jackie Hendricks & Jeff
Dujon went to the same school!
Pataudi: (deadpan) Yes, you mentioned that twice already.

Crasto did the comms on Mumbai tv for soccer and hockey. As far as I
know he is still writing columns for Midday. Very grouchy voice (if
you know what I mean). Reminded me of a principal at school.

Suresh Surraiya was relegated to doing comms for all sorts of
tournaments in Mumbai, especially the ones organized by Mafia dons,
which were all the rage in the early 90's.

We Bombayites hated it when the national network took over. Mumbai tv
had awesome newsreaders - Sarita Sethi, Harish Bhimani, Siddarth Kak,
Luku Sanyal, et al. Bikram Vohra did 'Young World' and A.F.S.(Bobby)
Talyarkhan did "Looking back, Looking forward". They were replaced by
incompetents like Delhi's Salma Sultan, Raman. Aaargh. The current
generation do not know what we went through under the Congress (I)'s
tyrannical propaganda policies.

Worse, the sports comms were "all rounders". So you had Joga Rao and
Ravi Chaturvedi's brother (whatsisname) do the comms for every sport
imaginable :-(

..and then there were Sushil Doshi-isms..
"stadium kachakach bhara huan"
"sundar kaliyeeoan ka upyog karte huen..."
"Laxman Sivaramakrishnan, char bhagwanoanka milap, ek vyakti mein"
etc

Cheers
Arun

Samir Dhume

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Amol Cricketwallah <cricke...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Heh :-) *Him* I remember very well. Its Fredun De Vitre (sort of an
> anglicized name, the usual Parsi version is Fardoon). He used to do
> "Sportstime" on the telly as well, was much more a regular at that than
> at cricket. Also compiled a little collection of cricket stories that
> were published in book form (called "Willow Tales" or some such, IIRC).

> He wasnt terrible, IMHO - could hold a conversation, at least :-)

I remember Fredrun De Vitre quite clearly. He was an amiable
likable sort of guy, always with a smile or a joke. He commentated on
everything from car rallys to badminton.

Arvind Lavakare (the same dude who writes rubbish on rediff these days)
used to host a show/interview thingy on Bombay DD. Guy used to speak from
the corner of his mouth and that's about all I remember of him, so he
couldn't have been particularly good.

samir

umesh dandekar

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here's another one - sushil doshi describing [a then young] sachin tendulkar's
fielding

"tendulkar tendu-a ki tarah chust, mustaid aur furteele"
this he must have said atleast several hundred times...

My favourite though was narrottam puri! And not to forget
henry 'earings' blofeld!! He was probably azhar's biggest
fan. Every time azhar would flick [and that would be
everytime he played a ball :-)], blofeld would start singing
about 'oriental wrist work'!

>
> Cheers
> Arun

Ramakrishnan G

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> >
> > ..and then there were Sushil Doshi-isms..
> > "stadium kachakach bhara huan"
> > "sundar kaliyeeoan ka upyog karte huen..."
> > "Laxman Sivaramakrishnan, char bhagwanoanka milap, ek vyakti mein"
> > etc
> here's another one - sushil doshi describing [a then young] sachin tendulkar's
> fielding
>
> "tendulkar tendu-a ki tarah chust, mustaid aur furteele"
> this he must have said atleast several hundred times...
>

More Doshi-isms...
"Darshakon mein romanch, apeksha ka vatavaran!"
and by way of variety..
"Darshakon mein apeksha, romanch ka vatavaran!"
"gend tappa khakar ruki.. fir aage badi"

Andrew Dunford

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I think the less said about Blowers and his wrist work the better.

Andrew


Slowhand

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I have heard this story about how either
Sushil Doshi or Murli Manohar Manju
(remember him?) once got very excited
after someone hit a 4 and India won a test,
and said
'Aur iske saath Bharath test jeeth gaye.
Bharath mata ki jai...Indira Gandhi
ki jai'
Has anyone else heard this story?!

Slowhand

Andrew Dunford

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"Slowhand" <sl...@slow.com> wrote in message
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> > > ..and then there were Sushil Doshi-isms..
> > > "stadium kachakach bhara huan"
> > > "sundar kaliyeeoan ka upyog karte huen..."
> > > "Laxman Sivaramakrishnan, char bhagwanoanka milap, ek vyakti mein"
> > > etc
> > here's another one - sushil doshi describing [a then young] sachin
> tendulkar's
> > fielding
> >
> > "tendulkar tendu-a ki tarah chust, mustaid aur furteele"
> > this he must have said atleast several hundred times...

> I have heard this story about how either
> Sushil Doshi or Murli Manohar Manju
> (remember him?) once got very excited
> after someone hit a 4 and India won a test,
> and said
> 'Aur iske saath Bharath test jeeth gaye.
> Bharath mata ki jai...Indira Gandhi
> ki jai'
> Has anyone else heard this story?!
>
> Slowhand

Can't say I have, but it's beginning to sound a bit like the one about the
Norwegian football commentator and Lady Thatcher.

Andrew


The Chess Addict

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Aug 2, 2001, 9:20:07 PM8/2/01
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>
> More Doshi-isms...
> "Darshakon mein romanch, apeksha ka vatavaran!"
> and by way of variety..
> "Darshakon mein apeksha, romanch ka vatavaran!"
> "gend tappa khakar ruki.. fir aage badi"

One more..

"Aasman me kale kale badal, lekin barish ka kahi
namonishan nahin!"

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