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Sadiq Yusuf
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Approximately the mid-point of the domestic season has been
reached in India, and the cricketing season is in full swing (while we
suffer, newsless, in this cricketing waste-land :-) Recently read up on
a bunch of Bombay newspapers, so thought I'd do a brief recap of the
season thus far.
First off, Ravi Shastri had been assigned by the BCA to find a
sponsor for the Bombay side at the end of last season. He went for the
big fish, and signed a deal with Reebok :-) And its an extremely good
deal, too - in addition to the senior Bombay side (ie, the Ranji team),
Reebok also sponsors *all* the other Bombay teams in domestic cricket.
Thus, the Bombay Under 19 and Under 17 teams are also being outfitted by
Reebok - a wonderful situation for youngsters who often struggled to
outfit themselves in proper cricketing gear due to monetary reasons in
the past.
On the cricketing front, it has been a case of so-far, so-good
for the senior Bombay side.
The Irani Trophy against the Rest of India was almost won in 2
days - an unprecedented feat in Indian cricketing history. The game
finally ended after approximately 1 session of the 3rd day, with Bombay
winning by 9 wickets.
The Ranji season began last December, with Bombay facing Gujarat
first up. The one-day game was won by 8 wickets with almost 28 overs to
spare (Gujarat having been dismissed for 115 - pacemen Abey Kuruvilla,
Amit Dani (debutant) and Manish Patel claiming 4, 3 and 2 wickets
respectively. Sanjay Manjrekar's unbeaten 58 took Bombay home.
In the first Ranji game, Gujarat were beaten by an innings and
110 runs - dismissed twice for scores of 215 and 105 respectively, while
Bombay scored 430 for 8 declared in its only innings. Debutant Amit Dani
was the star of the game - playing only because Paras Mhambrey and Salil
Ankola were away playing for India A in Sharjah, Dani claimed 5 for 40
in the first innings and scored an aggressive 88 before being 8th out
(at which point Bombay declared). Sunil More with 53 and Vinod Kambli
with 138 were the other major contributors to the Bombay innings, while
Abey Kuruvilla had match figures of 8 for 112. And, encouragingly,
Sairaj Bahutule finally emerged from a month-long slump to claim 4 for
15 in the 2nd innings.
The second Ranji One Dayer was against Baroda. This game was won
by 5 wickets, with 9.1 overs to spare - Baroda was restricted to 171 for
9 off 50 overs, with Bahutule claiming 2 for 24 off his 10 overs. Ankola
and Tendulkar also claimed 2 wickets each, as all the bowlers chipped
in. Bombay, chasing 172 to win, received contributions from all its test
stars (Tendulkar 61, Manjrekar 51, Kambli 47*) in its drive to victory.
In the second Ranji game, Baroda were beaten by 5 wickets. On a
pitch taking a lot of spin, the Bombay duo of Bahutule and Nilesh
Kulkarni claimed 9 of the 10 wickets to fall on the first day as Baroda
collapsed to 112 all out - Kulkarni claiming 6 for 37 and Bahutule 3 for
31. Bombay could manage only 238 in response, mainly due to a
belligerent knock of 71 in the late-middle order by Bahutule (who had a
fine all-round game), and a gritty 49 by recalled opener/keeper
Sulakshan Kulkarni. Baroda was dismissed for 211 in their second essay,
Nilesh Kulkarni again doing the major damage with 4 for 87, while
Bahutule and Ankola chipped in with 2 wickets each. Needing 88 to win with
80 mins left on the 3rd day, Bombay ended the day at 49 for 3, and won
on the 4th morning after losing another 2 wickets.
Nilesh Kulkarni, winner of last season's "Bombay Cricketer of
the Year" award, had match figures of 10 for 124.
Thus, so far, Bombay has the maximum 12 points from its Ranji
fixtures and the maximum 4 from its one-day games. However, the sternest
test of the league stage, the game against Maharashtra is yet to be
played.
The Bombay XI for the game against Baroda was strange - it may
have been due to injuries, but Manoj Joglekar, Sameer Dighe and Paras
Mhambrey were all missing from the final XI. They will all be needed in
future games, when the stars are away preparing for the World Cup (thats
if Mhambrey isnt in the squad :-)
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The Kanga League season is over, with National Cricket Club
triumphant for the second year in a row. National CC, in fact, is the
new dominant power in Bombay club cricket - it won the Purshottam Shield
this season as well.
Dadar Union, which had been relegated to the B Division after
last year in the Kanga League, won their division by a fair margin and
will hopefully be back up in the big leagues next year.
There was a veteran's 2 day tourney held immediately after the
Kanga leagues :-) All the old stars came out in force for Dadar Union,
who triumphed just as in the old days :-) , with Gavaskar and Ramnath
Parkar starring with the bat in the finals.
The Purshottam Shield was a fun affair this season - good
performances by Dadar Union and Shivaji Park Gymkhana led to both sides
making the semi-finals, and being drawn to play each other, bringing
back memories of the days of yore, when their rivalry was legendary
(people still talk of Gavaskar flying in to play in the game, fresh from
his epic 221 at the Oval :-)
The rivalry is as intense as ever :-) Pravin Amre came in to
play for Shivaji Park just for that game, straight from captaining
Central Zone in the Duleep Trophy. And scored 81, too. Helped by
schoolboy star Salil Vaidya (son of revered coach Anna Vaidya) who made
50, Shivaji Park scored 322 for 8 in its alloted overs.
Dadar Union lost wickets early, and were 25 for 2. But, in the
greatest tradition of the rivalry, they fought on. When the 8th wicket
fell at 260 odd, they appeared sunk. But the 9th wicket hung on for a
while. Finally, when it fell at 300, the task was just too much for last
pair - including about 8 penalty runs, Dadar Union ended up at 320/9, to
lose by 2 runs - a thrilling game worthy of Shivaji Park/ Dadar Union
games from the past.
Thus, the final was between Shivaji Park and National CC.
Shivaji Park batted first and scored 197, Salil Vaidya getting 76.
National replied with 248, with Bombay Under 19 star Wasim Jaffer
scoring 71. Trailing by 53, Shivaji Park got 218 in their 2nd innings,
Salil Vaidya 31, Sandesh Kawle 33. Needing 167 to win, National got
there with 8 wickets in hand, thanks mainly to a brilliant 100* off 113
balls by Wasim Jaffer (14 fours, described as "a classical display of
batsmanship").
National is really a pretty solid side right now. No huge stars,
but lots of good contributing cricketers - Wasim Jaffer, Rajesh Sutar,
Nilesh Kulkarni, Amit Dani, Atul Ranade (the last 2, both pacemen, have
been taking tons of wickets this season - Dani had 7/35 and 5/25 in 2
matches - thats probably why he was picked for the Bombay side).
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The league phase of the Under 19 Cooch Behar tournament is over
- Bombay Under 19's have qualified for the knock out stage. There are
two bats with tons of potential there - Wasim Jaffer (mentioned above)
and Amit Pagnis - and both have scored fairly heavily. Others of note
(most graduating from the Under 17 team of a couple seasons ago) are
Amit Aroskar, Ajit Agarkar, Amol Rane (who doesnt seem to be keeping
anymore - he used to when he was in Shardashram, I think), Manish
Bangera etc. Robin Morris is the leading paceman, Vineet Sarang the
leggie, Jordan D'Silva the left arm slow, and Faisal Sheikh the offie (a
good one - probably the best bowler, and in the West Zone team too).
Nilesh Patwardhan is the keeper (I think Atiq Sayyed, the fine keeper
from last year, has probably graduated out of the Under 19s this
season).
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The league phase of the Under 16s was in progress the last I
heard. Pushkaraj Jadhav, fresh out of the Shardashram stables, is
the leading batsman, along with players like Sudesh Nayak (currently at
Shardashram). Yogesh Kaudhare is the paceman, and seems to be bagging 5
wicket hauls every other innings :-), while Rohan Hirlekar is the offie
and best spinner (fresh from leading IES to a famous triump in the
Harris Shields this season)
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In schools cricket, as mentioned, the long domination of
Shardashram Marathi was broken this season - I dont believe theyve lost
since the days Tendulkar played for them :-)
IES scored 226 in their first innings, and dismissed Shardashram
for 134, gaining a vital 92 run first innings lead, thanks mainly to
offie Rohan Hirlekar who bowled 20 overs, claiming 4 for 21. Shardashram
never recovered, finally losing by 70 or so, with Hirlekar claiming 8 in
the game [details available from Neeran, once he recovers from his
champagne hangover and drunken chants of "Hirlekar, Hirlekar" (no
Bombayite, even when drunk, would *ever* chant "Rohan, Rohan" :-) ]
Shardashram Marathi did win the Under 15 Giles Shield, I
believe, but Iam hazy on the details :-)
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Thats about it, as far as this Bombay season is concerned at
present. A fairly satisfactory season so far, but the real tests are
still to come.
The Under 19 team doesnt seem quite as good as a couple
of years ago, but both Jaffer and Pagnis have another year left at
that level, I believe, so it should be better next year.
As for the senior squad, it has had a magical run for the past 2
seasons - the end has to come sometime. It would be nice to see the end
of the run postponed as long as possible :-), but with the stars
probably gone later this season, the team might well struggle then -
especially given the poor recent form of Amol Muzumdar and considering
the fact that Paranjpe et al have played only about 2 games in the past
couple of seasons.
Sadiq [ who read *lots* of newspapers ] Yusuf
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Saileshwar Krishnamurthy
In article <4d5bps$f...@news.iastate.edu> si...@iastate.edu (Sadiq Yusuf) writes:
Sadiq> Statutory warning : The note below deals almost
Sadiq> entirely with Bombay cricket. All non-Bombayites be
Sadiq> warned - you may find this boring and/or a waste of
Sadiq> bandwidth. To avoid it, hit 'n' now :-)
Point taken. Now I'm giving you an opportunity to expound further
on Bombay Cricket (warily of course :).
What exactly is the Kanga League ? Who plays in it ?
I remember when Vengsarkar was suspended for a year by the BCCI
(for writing a syndicated column) he wrote (again in his column,
"off the bat" in The Hindu) that "my hands itch to pick up the
bat in the Kanga League, but the Board won't let me and so on
...".
How about some historic information ?
[and there will come a time when TN triumphs again :) I remember
(correctly, I hope) when TN won the Ranji Trophy some years (6-7
?) back, it was after 33 years. Next time it will be sooner :)]
Cheers
Sailesh (kr...@cs.purdue.edu) "God is void* in EVERY declaration"
".... And India are the new WORLD CUP CHAMPIONS !!!!!!!!"
- from radio and tv commentary in Feb-March 1996 :)
Saileshwar Krishnamurthy
In article <jmallela.821549914@cern04> jmallela@cern04 (Jagannath Mallela) writes:
Jag> si...@iastate.edu (Sadiq Yusuf) writes: [enlightening
Jag> article about Kange league deleted]
>> Hmm. 32 years, you mean ? :-) Seriously, does Madras have
>> a monsoon type league like this ? This isnt the only thing
>> - Times Shield etc are probably the main leagues, but the
>> Kanga is specifically a monsoon league with all levels of
>> cricketers playing. Anything similar elsewhere ?
Jag> Therefore, I guess the HCA league, since it has
Jag> satisfied all the "requirements", can be bracketed along
Jag> with the Kanga league. Apart from this Hyderabad also
Jag> has a something called the HDCA (Hyderabad District
Jag> Cricket Association) league which has a similar
Jag> structure.
I guess most states/big-cities have similar league
_structures_. What Sadiq seems to be talking about is a monsoon
league.
Jagannath Mallela
[enlightening article about Kange league deleted]
> Hmm. 32 years, you mean ? :-) Seriously, does Madras have a
>monsoon type league like this ? This isnt the only thing - Times Shield
>etc are probably the main leagues, but the Kanga is specifically a
>monsoon league with all levels of cricketers playing. Anything similar
>elsewhere ?
The Hyderabad Cricket Association has a league called the HCA league. When
I played there used to be several divisions in the league, A through E, with
subdivisions within each grade such as A-1, A-2, etc. As far as I know all
test players emerging from Hyderabad have played this league at one time or
the other and some of them continue to do so. There is a promotion system
in the league whereby if you end up in the top two teams of your division
you are promoted autmatically to the next higher division, ex., from A-2 to
A-1. This league is played over a period of approximately 4 to 5 months
part of which falls within the monsoon season. It is also a pretty old
league much like the Kanga league. Therefore, I guess the HCA league, since
it has satisfied all the "requirements", can be bracketed along with the Kanga
league. Apart from this Hyderabad also has a something called the HDCA
(Hyderabad District Cricket Association) league which has a similar structure.
-jag mallela
> Sadiq [ who can go on for ever about the
> Kanga League - and often does :-) ] Yusuf
>>Cheers
>>Sailesh (kr...@cs.purdue.edu) "God is void* in EVERY declaration"
>>".... And India are the new WORLD CUP CHAMPIONS !!!!!!!!"
>> - from radio and tv commentary in Feb-March 1996 :)
>>
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Sadiq Yusuf
Saileshwar Krishnamurthy <sai...@cs.purdue.edu> wrote:
>
>Point taken. Now I'm giving you an opportunity to expound further
>on Bombay Cricket (warily of course :).
>
Ah, an opportunity :-) Goodie :-)
>What exactly is the Kanga League ? Who plays in it ?
>
The Kanga League is a monsoon league played in Bombay. Club
cricket, lots of divisions (goes all the way down to "F" or "G", with
"A" being the top). Thus, lots of people play - even players who arent
very good, former school-boy cricketers, play in the lower divisions.
The "A" division, however,has some of the toughest cricket in
the world. Everyone plays - all the test players, and all the Ranji
players. And not just the Bombay Ranji players either - the Amre's and
Prashant Vaidya's of the world often play as well. As do the former
players - Vengsarkar still turns out for his club team, for example, as
do several others (Mayank Khandwala, old Bombay left arm slow, is still
a force to be reckoned with - probably better than he ever was :-)
And what makes the league really hard are the conditions - this
is a monsoon league, played through the monsoon season (from about July
to the start of October or so - 13 weeks in all, I believe). Thus, a lot
of games are washed out, and the ones that are played are on
underprepared pitches, in drizzles, on wet pitches (no covers, of
course), with lots of moisture in the air and the ball moving all over
the place. I recall this game I watched CCI play about 3 summers ago
(the first time I saw Amol bat - and no, I didnt paraphrase what was
once said about Bruce Springsteen - "I have seen the future of Indian
Cricket and his name is Amol Muzumdar" - but probably only because I
didnt think of it :-). Anyway. This game was played on an overcast day,
on a wet and underprepared pitch of variable bounce - CCI had Jaideep
Mathur (Rajasthan Ranji player at the time) and Abhijit Kale (India
Under 19 at the time) opening, and were still reduced to 16/4 before
Amol did the rescue act with an unbeaten 50. In addition, the grass had
not been cut - only one boundary was hit all day, as everything hit just
rolled to a halt in the tall grass. Batting and scoring runs is just
incredibly difficult in the Kanga Leagues - bowlers like Balwinder Singh
Sandu are absolutely devastating under those conditions :-)
>I remember when Vengsarkar was suspended for a year by the BCCI
>(for writing a syndicated column) he wrote (again in his column,
>"off the bat" in The Hindu) that "my hands itch to pick up the
>bat in the Kanga League, but the Board won't let me and so on
>...".
>
>How about some historic information ?
>
The Kanga League is named after H.D. Kanga - first President of
the Bombay Cricket Association, I believe. I *think* it started way
back in the 1930's - I'll see if I can look it up sometime. All the
great Bombay players through history have had their early baptism in the
Kanga's - and since scoring is so difficult, it is a good way of
separating the men from the boys, as far as batting is concerned. Of
late, for example, Shastri, Manjrekar,Kambli, Sachin etc have all won
"Young Player of the Year" awards in the Kanga's when they were about 15
or 16.
Games played on Sundays only, a one day game, no over limits, 8
ball overs, about 8 hours of play in the day (beginning 9am, with dew
still on the pitch :-) Thus, even if a team is relatively weak, they can
just try to bat all day against an overwhelmingly strong team and thus
come out with shared points (if the first innings are not completed). To
get points and win, you have to actually *win*, ie get wickets and prise
teams out. Also conducive to building an inning when early wickets fall,
rather than a one-day bash (after 16/4, Amol scored 50* as CCI got
125/6 in about 4 hours and a bit. They were then going to declare and
thought the opposition would chase - except it rained and the game was
called :-)
As for who plays - its a division system, so the clubs in the A
division are promoted and relegated each year. But the big names,
traditionally, are Shivaji Park Gymkhana, Dadar Union, CCI, PJ Hindu
Gymkhana, Islam Gymkhana etc. Powerhouses from the 1980s onwards are
teams like Shivaji Park Youngsters (the Chandu Pandits, Raju Kulkarni's
etc all playerd for SPY as kids,and stuck with it instead of playing for
the sister club Shivaji Park as time went on - thus SPY became a power
:-).
And CCI has a wonderful team, when its all together. In one of
the 2 matches I saw that summer, they had a line-up of Kale, Mathur,
Tendulkar, Kambli, Amol, Kuruvilla, Ankola, Mhambrey, Khandwala, Rohan
Gavaskar to mention a few (of course, Mhambrey was 19 and not in the
Ranji team,and Rohan Gavaskar was about 15 and 12th man for that game
:-)
This, coming to think of it, is the best feature of the Kanga
Leagues. The club managers are good people,and have the future interest
of Bombay cricket at heart. Thus,they will play the Amol's, the
Joglekar's, and now the Pagnis's and the Jaffer's (National CC) in the
Kanga Leagues. Thus, even when a future good player is about 14 years
old, he gets to play against bowlers of the calibre of Ankola,
Kuruvilla, Mhambrey, Bahutule (PJ Hindu Gym), Nilesh Kulkarni (National
CC) etc, under adverse conditions - that can only further his
cricketing education and help in his development, and toughen him for
the future. (I saw Rohan Gavaskar play a game at age 15, with a raging
fever,under awful conditions. He came back to the tent and threw up,
after he was out. But he played, and the manager would have it no other
way - "his father made a test ton with fever", he told me, "Iam not
going to let him be a baby, he has to learn to be tough" :-)
If Bombay has had a successful cricketing history in the Ranji
Trophy, the Kanga Leagues have played a vital part in it over the years
- especially in the early development of the players that brought Bombay
glory.
>[and there will come a time when TN triumphs again :) I remember
>(correctly, I hope) when TN won the Ranji Trophy some years (6-7
>?) back, it was after 33 years. Next time it will be sooner :)]
>
Hmm. 32 years, you mean ? :-) Seriously, does Madras have a
monsoon type league like this ? This isnt the only thing - Times Shield
etc are probably the main leagues, but the Kanga is specifically a
monsoon league with all levels of cricketers playing. Anything similar
elsewhere ?
Sadiq [ who can go on for ever about the
Sadiq Yusuf
Yep, exactly. The Kanga, remember, is played *only* on Sunday,
for 13 weeks (half of which are sometimes washed out :-) Its purely a
One Day game, and a one-day game *without* over limits, and purely a
monsoon league. Also 8 ball overs and stuff, but thats unimportant,
relatively :-)
I presume the structure of promotions and relegations etc is
similar for most leagues, anyway. I just wondered if there is high level
and competitive monsoon cricket on a large, relatively well-organized
scale in lots of other places too.
Sadiq [ oh for the green green grass of Azad and Cross ] Yusuf
>
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Neeran M. Karnik
WHOA, thanks for the updates Sadiq :) Just a few comments...
> On the cricketing front, it has been a case of so-far, so-good
>for the senior Bombay side.
Well put. Although they've won matches, it hasn't been a dominating
performance in the Ranjis like last season.
> In the first Ranji game, Gujarat were beaten by an innings and
>110 runs - dismissed twice for scores of 215 and 105 respectively, while
>Bombay scored 430 for 8 declared in its only innings. Debutant Amit Dani
>was the star of the game - playing only because Paras Mhambrey and Salil
>Ankola were away playing for India A in Sharjah, Dani claimed 5 for 40
>in the first innings and scored an aggressive 88 before being 8th out
I believe Dani could have become the first Indian (?) to score 100
AND take a 5WI on debut, but he was dismissed for 88 :-( BTW, this
game was played at Valsad. The next one vs Baroda was at Baroda, so
despite spending the month of December in Bombay, I didn't get to
watch any cricket at the Wankhede :-(
>fixtures and the maximum 4 from its one-day games. However, the sternest
>test of the league stage, the game against Maharashtra is yet to be
>played.
This game will (probably) be played in Bombay and this stand some
chance of ending in a result :-) The Pune pitch (at Nehru Stadium)
is again living up to its reputation and producing ridiculous
scores.
>Kanga leagues :-) All the old stars came out in force for Dadar Union,
>who triumphed just as in the old days :-) , with Gavaskar and Ramnath
>Parkar starring with the bat in the finals.
A bit of sad news -- sometime around new year's day, Ramnath Parkar
was involved in a road accident and was in a coma, in critical
condition as of Jan 2. If anyone has heard any further news, please
post a followup here.
> The league phase of the Under 16s was in progress the last I
>heard. Pushkaraj Jadhav, fresh out of the Shardashram stables, is
>the leading batsman, along with players like Sudesh Nayak (currently at
Jadhav (haven't I booked the #1 fan status already? :-) also made
plenty of runs in the inter-collegiate tournament. A few more big
innings and he could break into the Bombay Ranji side.
>wicket hauls every other innings :-), while Rohan Hirlekar is the offie
>and best spinner (fresh from leading IES to a famous triump in the
>Harris Shields this season)
YES!
>----------------------------
> In schools cricket, as mentioned, the long domination of
>Shardashram Marathi was broken this season - I dont believe theyve lost
YESSS!
> IES scored 226 in their first innings, and dismissed Shardashram
>for 134, gaining a vital 92 run first innings lead, thanks mainly to
>offie Rohan Hirlekar who bowled 20 overs, claiming 4 for 21. Shardashram
>never recovered, finally losing by 70 or so, with Hirlekar claiming 8 in
>the game [details available from Neeran, once he recovers from his
>champagne hangover and drunken chants of "Hirlekar, Hirlekar" (no
>Bombayite, even when drunk, would *ever* chant "Rohan, Rohan" :-) ]
YESSSSSS!! Hirlekar incidentally, took 4-24 in 20 overs in the
second innings, to go with the 4-21 in the first! And remember,
this game is played with over limits, so the economy factor was
also important! Let's not forget Niranjan Kawatkar either -- the
IES captain made the top score of the match, 97 in the first
innings (next highest in the match was 40). I'll have the entire
scorecard typed in and available on CricInfo sometime soon...
For those who haven't guessed already, IES is my alma mater. We
came close to breaking the Shardashram monopoly in the last couple
of years (lost the final last year) and finally did it this time.
This was IES's first Harris win in more than 20 years. The last
time we won was in 1972 I think, when Dilip Vengsarkar was our star
batsman!
> Shardashram Marathi did win the Under 15 Giles Shield, I
>believe, but Iam hazy on the details :-)
ISTR that the semifinalists were Shardashram Marathi, Shardashram
English, IES Eng(Dadar), and IES Modern Eng(Bandra). Don't remember
whether Shardashram Eng or IES Modern Eng made it to the finals
(and lost).
> The Under 19 team doesnt seem quite as good as a couple
>of years ago, but both Jaffer and Pagnis have another year left at
>that level, I believe, so it should be better next year.
Certainly ought to be better in a couple of years, with these
schoolboys making the grade. Jadhav, Sudesh Nayak, Sukhdev Walia
(all Achrekar pupils), Hirlekar, Kawatkar, etc.
> As for the senior squad, it has had a magical run for the past 2
>seasons - the end has to come sometime. It would be nice to see the end
>of the run postponed as long as possible :-), but with the stars
Hey, remember the magical run in the 50s and 60s! We can dream,
can't we? :-)
>Sadiq Yusuf
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Sadiq Yusuf
Neeran M. Karnik <kar...@cs.umn.edu> wrote:
>si...@iastate.edu (Sadiq Yusuf) writes:
>
>WHOA, thanks for the updates Sadiq :) Just a few comments...
>
>
>> On the cricketing front, it has been a case of so-far, so-good
>>for the senior Bombay side.
>
> Well put. Although they've won matches, it hasn't been a dominating
> performance in the Ranjis like last season.
>
Yeah. Though, really, it wasnt a dominating performance last
year either, in the League stage - it was dominating only from the last
league match against Gujarat onwards ( innings win vs Gujarat in 2.5
days, followed by similar results against TN in the quarters and MP in
the semis). Should that tell us something about the standards of the
Ranji teams in the West Zone, compared to the rest of the country :-) ?
Though, actually, the stars were out in full force in the knockouts
only, last season, so there is an excuse :-)
> I believe Dani could have become the first Indian (?) to score 100
> AND take a 5WI on debut, but he was dismissed for 88 :-( BTW, this
> game was played at Valsad. The next one vs Baroda was at Baroda, so
> despite spending the month of December in Bombay, I didn't get to
> watch any cricket at the Wankhede :-(
>
Yeah. I believe the 3rd match, v/s Maharashtra, was at the
Wankhede - it was due to begin about the 9th or so of January. Havent
heard a word on what occured, unfortunately (anyone with news, a post or
email would be greatly appreciated :-)
The stars will play against Maharashtra, but not against
Saurashtra in the final game - they'll be in the WC camp by then. The
team for the Saurashtra game has been announced - I dont have it, but I
believe Barucha and Paranjpe have been recalled to the 14.
>
>>fixtures and the maximum 4 from its one-day games. However, the sternest
>>test of the league stage, the game against Maharashtra is yet to be
>>played.
>
> This game will (probably) be played in Bombay and this stand some
> chance of ending in a result :-) The Pune pitch (at Nehru Stadium)
> is again living up to its reputation and producing ridiculous
> scores.
>
Yep. All I know about Maharashtra is the first game, against
Baroda, when they successfully chased 550 to get the first innings
points :-) Bhave, of course, scored a double ton :-)
> A bit of sad news -- sometime around new year's day, Ramnath Parkar
> was involved in a road accident and was in a coma, in critical
> condition as of Jan 2. If anyone has heard any further news, please
> post a followup here.
>
That is indeed sad. Hadnt heard about this at all - I second the
plea for a followup, if anyone has news.
>
>> The league phase of the Under 16s was in progress the last I
>>heard. Pushkaraj Jadhav, fresh out of the Shardashram stables, is
>>the leading batsman, along with players like Sudesh Nayak (currently at
>
> Jadhav (haven't I booked the #1 fan status already? :-) also made
> plenty of runs in the inter-collegiate tournament. A few more big
> innings and he could break into the Bombay Ranji side.
>
No, youre #2,I believe :-) I dont know about the Bombay side,
though - I really think Amit Pagnis and Wasim Jaffer are probably ahead
of him (as they should be - he hasnt even played at the Under 19 level
yet). Id really like to see one of Pagnis/Jaffer (probably Pagnis)
picked for the 14 while the stars are away, actually, but I doubt it
will happen - players like Amit Velaskar, Kiran Pawar (former India
Under 19 *captain*) etc are all doing well at the club level, and havent
gotten a whiff of a chance.
[ unseemly gloating at IES's triumph deleted :-) ]
>> The Under 19 team doesnt seem quite as good as a couple
>>of years ago, but both Jaffer and Pagnis have another year left at
>>that level, I believe, so it should be better next year.
>
> Certainly ought to be better in a couple of years, with these
> schoolboys making the grade. Jadhav, Sudesh Nayak, Sukhdev Walia
> (all Achrekar pupils), Hirlekar, Kawatkar, etc.
>
True. Though, the batting is always in fair shape. Its the fast
bowling at the age group levels thats usually the problem - the
Mhambrey's, Kuruvilla's, Dani's etc didnt come out of the Under 19
system either - they probably just werent as good at that age. Know much
about this Yogesh Kaudhare, BTW ?
Also, happen to know how old Salil Vaidya is ? I havent seen his
name in the Under 19s, and he's been doing very well in the club games -
was wondering why.
>> As for the senior squad, it has had a magical run for the past 2
>>seasons - the end has to come sometime. It would be nice to see the end
>>of the run postponed as long as possible :-), but with the stars
>
> Hey, remember the magical run in the 50s and 60s! We can dream,
> can't we? :-)
>
Yeah :-) Wadekar apparently gently reminded the crowd after
Bombay's Ranji win last year in a speech that Bombay had once won 16 in
a row, so this wasnt really a big deal, yet :-) Ah well. Something to
aim for, I suppose :-)
Sadiq [ who hopes for a return to those glory days :-) ] Yusuf
>>Sadiq Yusuf
>
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Neeran M. Karnik
> Yeah. I believe the 3rd match, v/s Maharashtra, was at the
>Wankhede - it was due to begin about the 9th or so of January. Havent
>heard a word on what occured, unfortunately (anyone with news, a post or
>email would be greatly appreciated :-)
Just got a first-day update on that game. It's being played at the
Dadoji Konddev Stadium, in Thane, by the way (now is that a home
ground for Bombay or Maharashtra???). Bombay batting first, were
270-odd for 4 at the end of D1, with Muzumdar batting 110. Looks
like Muzumdar is getting back in form... he also scored a 50 in the
OD game a day earlier (scorecard for that one should appear soon on
rsci).
> Yep. All I know about Maharashtra is the first game, against
>Baroda, when they successfully chased 550 to get the first innings
>points :-) Bhave, of course, scored a double ton :-)
I wonder how many centuries Bhave has in Ranji, might be closing in
on the record? Amarjeet Kaypee recently scored his 22nd, I believe,
equalling Ashok Mankad and Vijay Hazare. Also, in a Delhi vs
Services Ranji game, Delhi's Sumeet Dogra and Akash Malhotra were
involved in a huge partnership (probably a world record). I know
Dogra got 200+ not out and Malhotra made 197. Not sure about the
partnership though...
[Re Pushkaraj Jadhav]
> No, youre #2,I believe :-) I dont know about the Bombay side,
>though - I really think Amit Pagnis and Wasim Jaffer are probably ahead
>of him (as they should be - he hasnt even played at the Under 19 level
Hey, and you claim to be the #1 fan? :) If Jadhav is really
'special' (and the selectors can easily confirm that with
Achrekar), he may get pushed. After all, Tendulkar and Kambli
didn't play u-19 either :-)
> [ unseemly gloating at IES's triumph deleted :-) ]
_Unseemly_? Bah :-) To borrow a line: WE ARE THE CHAMPS!!! :-)
> True. Though, the batting is always in fair shape. Its the fast
>bowling at the age group levels thats usually the problem - the
>Mhambrey's, Kuruvilla's, Dani's etc didnt come out of the Under 19
>system either - they probably just werent as good at that age. Know much
>about this Yogesh Kaudhare, BTW ?
Not much, really. Opening bowler for Shardashram, did decently over
the last two years at school, but I didn't hear of any sensational
performances (unlike the lefty spinner Sukhdev Walia, or offie
Faisal Mamlekar). Kaudhare is also a decent lower-order bat
though.
> Also, happen to know how old Salil Vaidya is ? I havent seen his
>name in the Under 19s, and he's been doing very well in the club games -
>was wondering why.
Salil Vaidya (who BTW is Anna Vaidya's *grandson*, not his son)
must be around 17, since he played the Giles (u-15? or u-16?) two
seasons ago for Balmohan Vidyamandir.
J Sreedhar
|> Yeah :-) Wadekar apparently gently reminded the crowd after
|> Bombay's Ranji win last year in a speech that Bombay had once won 16 in
|> a row, so this wasnt really a big deal, yet :-) Ah well. Something to
|> aim for, I suppose :-)
|>
|>
|> Sadiq [ who hopes for a return to those glory days :-) ] Yusuf
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nope!! While I hope that Bombay continues to grow in strength, I
certainly don't want it to win 16 in a row again!! That wouldn't bode
well for the rest of India!!
--Sreedhar
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mahate fazal
Neeran M. Karnik <kar...@cs.umn.edu> wrote:
> Just got a first-day update on that game. It's being played at the
> Dadoji Konddev Stadium, in Thane, by the way (now is that a home
> ground for Bombay or Maharashtra???). Bombay batting first, were
This is a home game for Bombay. Bombay often plays home games at Thane.
> 270-odd for 4 at the end of D1, with Muzumdar batting 110. Looks
> like Muzumdar is getting back in form... he also scored a 50 in the
> OD game a day earlier (scorecard for that one should appear soon on
> rsci).
>
>> Yep. All I know about Maharashtra is the first game, against
>>Baroda, when they successfully chased 550 to get the first innings
>>points :-) Bhave, of course, scored a double ton :-)
>
> I wonder how many centuries Bhave has in Ranji, might be closing in
> on the record? Amarjeet Kaypee recently scored his 22nd, I believe,
> equalling Ashok Mankad and Vijay Hazare. Also, in a Delhi vs
> Services Ranji game, Delhi's Sumeet Dogra and Akash Malhotra were
> involved in a huge partnership (probably a world record). I know
> Dogra got 200+ not out and Malhotra made 197. Not sure about the
> partnership though...
S. Bhave is tied at second spot with these 2 guys.
>
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+
> | Neeran M. Karnik | #1 fan of Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar on r.s.c. :-> |
> | Dept. of CompSci.| "Pele in football, Becker in tennis, Ali in |
> | U of Minnesota | boxing. Sachin is in that league." - Tony Cozier |
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Fazal M. Mahate
Shivanand Bhajekar
Neeran M. Karnik <kar...@cs.umn.edu> wrote:
> This was IES's first Harris win in more than 20 years. The last
> time we won was in 1972 I think, when Dilip Vengsarkar was our star
> batsman!
Didnt IES(Eng) win in the late 70s or early 80s when Sanjay
Manjrekar was the captain? He used to score a 100 and take 5 wickets
in almost every game. Or was it only the Giles Shield? In those days,
if I remember right, a "Anjuman Islam vs C.L. Boys" Harris shield
final was almost guaranteed.
--
shivanand