Fuckin Pakistan cheats Siddle caught off his shoulder
dechucka
the replays/hotspot suggest no contact with the bat from Siddle. I assume
that Aus has no more referrals but I would put this down as a howler and
suggest that under a fairer system of the 3rd umpire initiating referrals
this would be not out.
So what shit happens
Will S
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Australia wasted 2 referrals, and I mean wasted so blame those 2
dechucka
"Will S" <wi...@nomail.com.au> wrote in message
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Referrals should not be a tactic they should be for removing howlers from
the game. I don't blame anybody but ( as I have stated in a previous
thread ) rather the system.
Ironically my understanding is that the players were the ones who wanted to
control the referrals
Fran
Nope ... I'm with Will S on this one. Clarke knew he was out and so
did Haddin but they calculated that the chance of surviving was
greater than the value of saving a howler later on.
They should have just copped it.
That said, the Siddle decision didn't look bad enough to overturn. It
looked like it either brushed the glove or went close enough for
someone to believe it did. There was something that looked like a 'hot
spot' in the right area.
If Pakistan do go on to win, it will be because they'd played better
more often when it counted, and messed up when it mattered less often
than Australia. Australia dug this hole for themselves on Day 1, when,
at worst, they should have got 220 to 250 and they've also dropped
chances which they'd normally hold.
At 3-51 I'd say the chances were 60-40 Pakistan's way. One more wicket
in the next 20 runs and its 50-50. That's way better for Australia
than at the start of play and we now have an absorbing contest.
What's not to like?
Fran
PS the technology and UDRS has saved us a howler that would have
tainted the game by picking up that inside edge ...
Again, what's not to like?
jzfredricks
predicted this!!!!
eusebius
> a thread that you will never see Angoor start. On a more important matter
> the replays/hotspot suggest no contact with the bat from Siddle.
Last time I checked you can also be caught out off the glove.
Funny since in this case it looked like a pretty clear case of the
ball hitting Siddle's glove before hitting his shoulder.
The morons who screamed and screamed for the referral system (not all
calling for the referral system were morons, though) are likely the
same ones demanding '100% accuracy'. This can never happen. Reasonable
decisions need to be made, without 100% proof.
I am totally happy with the Siddle decision, I thought it was the
right one. Whether Angoor could say the same without being a
hypocrite, is a different kettle of stinking fish.
dechucka
"eusebius" <euseb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> a thread that you will never see Angoor start. On a more important matter
> the replays/hotspot suggest no contact with the bat from Siddle.
Last time I checked you can also be caught out off the glove.
Funny since in this case it looked like a pretty clear case of the
ball hitting Siddle's glove before hitting his shoulder.
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Of course it did NOT
Michael Banner
> "eusebius" <eusebiu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Sure looked out to me watching it live, and no replay I saw changed my
mind about that.
Andrew Dunford
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>
Well, you could argue that it makes more sense for the referrals to be used
up by higher order batsmen Clarke and Haddin than to be saved for Siddle.
Even if Siddle now turns out to be a batter batsman than the others.
One thing we are seeing is that batsmen are frequently very poor judges of
themselves as lbw candidates. Clarke nearly got lucky with a no ball, but
otherwise it was a ridiculous review. Perhaps they should be saving lbw
reviews for instances when they know the ball was inside edged.
Andrew
Andrew Dunford
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> A howler being made with no referrals?! MY GOD! If only we could have
> predicted this!!!!
We could certainly have predicted your response.
It was comfortably within Australia's power to have reviews in hand at the
end of the innings.
Andrew
Ian Galbraith
The system is fine, the blame should be fairly and squarely on Clarke and
Haddin with their ridiculous appeals. They tried to game the system and
reaped the consequences.
--
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against your pickups in order to achieve the sound of Earth's final
thunderstorm, or a pterodactyl on his way to a fight... but that's why we
have Neil Young and Old Black." - Greg Mcgarvey
dechucka
"Ian Galbraith" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 13:39:49 +1100, dechucka wrote:
>
>> a thread that you will never see Angoor start. On a more important matter
>> the replays/hotspot suggest no contact with the bat from Siddle. I assume
>> that Aus has no more referrals but I would put this down as a howler and
>> suggest that under a fairer system of the 3rd umpire initiating referrals
>> this would be not out.
>>
>> So what shit happens
>
> The system is fine, the blame should be fairly and squarely on Clarke and
> Haddin with their ridiculous appeals. They tried to game the system and
> reaped the consequences.
The system is not fine if it allows obviously wrong decisions through and
allows time to be wasted by frivolous referrals. The idea of introducing the
system was to get rid as much as possible the blatantly wrong decisions like
caught off the shoulder, it is not doing this in its current format.
dechucka
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Looked out to me live but when the replays showed it missed everything apart
from his shoulder I changed my mind. If the use of the technology was not
allowed I would have been happy with the Umpires decision.