rahul dravid - half tamil???
rkusenet
from this article it seems he is out and out M'trian.
http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2003/apr/02vijeta.htm
There is no mention of his mom being a tamil.
rk-
Karan
>From: "rkusenet" rkus...@sympatico.ca
>I have read some posts in rsc that RD is half tamil. However
>from this article it seems he is out and out M'trian.
Some here are total asshole bigots...to go after a cricketer's caste, state,
city, nukard they are always on the lookout to find out sala what state...what
town what maulahha what nukkard some cricketer lives in and oh not to forget
caste...jat, chamar, bhramin..kutta kamena etc...chutiye payada hue thaey
chutiye hi marengey! divide and rule time ki payadavar!
#cheers
karan
rkusenet
>caste...jat, chamar, bhramin..kutta kamena etc
Which caste is kutta kamena?? Must be yours.
rk-
Karan
>From: "rkusenet"
>>caste...jat, chamar, bhramin..kutta kamena etc
>
>Which caste is kutta kamena?? Must be yours.
>
>
rk you are getting yr memory back, slowly but surely...words u have heard
before are making u recover from selective amnesia slowly.:) Last time I
checked u claimed I was a jat..trin trin ring a bell?
:)
#cheers
karan
Devdas
> Last time I
> checked u claimed I was a jat..trin trin ring a bell?
Hmmm...no wonder you support Kapil and Sehwag to the hilt
not to mention your other posts filled with hate.
Can't expect anything better from a jat. Have read
that Jats are the main participants in the bloody
inter-caste wars in the villages and towns of Rajasthan,
Haryana and UP.
>>have read some posts in rsc that RD is half tamil. However
>>from this article it seems he is out and out M'trian.
RD's grandfather was a Tamil brahmin. His father is a hybrid between
Tamil and Marathi, his mother is a Marathi. So that makes
him 3/4th marathi.
Devdas
Aditya Basrur
Without knowing the full history, I agree. I think people who bring up
caste and race really serve no purpose in doing so. It reminds me of
the following post that I found some time back ...
====
From: ppan...@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: SANE WARNE IS 9 - Full 9.
In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.990625...@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu>,
samarth harish shah <shs...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Wedge Antilles wrote:
>
> > what is 9? and what team is Newlezan?
>
> A '9' is a euphemism for a eunuch. This is tamil slang... the
relationship
> between the number and the sexual orientation is a little complex to
> explain.
>
Mr.Shah marwadi type fellow - don't think you are having guru devar
type
of knowledge on sexual orientation of numbers. I am saying what I am
seeing in the open for sane warne fellow is doing not male type of
behavior. You are giving some complete story about number of sexual
fellowa having orientation.
Why like that you are?
Becuase you are Shah Patel type of fellow. You are comin this country
from open door of India and having money and kiciking out worker who
are
not making own money. Everybody is saying Shah Patel is Gurjathi
Marwadi
fellow. He is owning Hotels, restraunts, motels, bedrooms, stores,
shops, fountain and other money for profit type of companies. Why? I
am
not telling you what 9 is meaning in Marwadis. Why are trying to tell
what it is having in Tamil? Are you speaking Tamil? One word also is
not
coming from your money mouth. In mumpai they are not speaking Tamil.
In
Marwadi Gurjath also they are not speaking tamil. Then why you are
giving meaning to next fellow for 9?
In Tamil we are saying "the false saying mouth will not get rice".
Don't
try to forget it.
Yours Faithfully
Perumselva Pandiyan
Shah Patel fellows are also owning Theatres, cinemas, house, field
type
of profit companies.
> -Samarth [ who is not an expert on these matters and hopes that he's
> right, in this case ].
=====
This is what it can become in the end. Generalisations are
unjustified. Inevitably, it is the poor Samarths of this world who are
victimised.
Aditya
Sanjiv Karmarkar
Had the pleasure of meeting Rahul at a Marathi wedding.
His whole family is very maharastrian (Deshastha Brahman
to be exact) and seemed very proud of their extraction
and lineage.
Incidently, Dravid is a fairly common last name in the
Marathi Brahman community. There was a Dravid in the
"Godse gang" that Perpetrated to kill M. K. Gandhi.
Sanjiv
Devdas
> Had the pleasure of meeting Rahul at a Marathi wedding.
> His whole family is very maharastrian (Deshastha Brahman
> to be exact) and seemed very proud of their extraction
> and lineage.
>
> Incidently, Dravid is a fairly common last name in the
> Marathi Brahman community. There was a Dravid in the
> "Godse gang" that Perpetrated to kill M. K. Gandhi.
>
> Sanjiv
Dravid is a surname of Tamil Iyengars too. There was an
article in rediff in 1996 that Dravid spoke in fluent
Tamil on Sun TV in one of their programmes.
Devdas
rkusenet
Sanjay Karmakar wrote:-
> Had the pleasure of meeting Rahul at a Marathi wedding.
> His whole family is very maharastrian (Deshastha Brahman
> to be exact) and seemed very proud of their extraction and lineage.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Just to let you know that I asked that question out of
curiosity.
What do u mean "proud of their extraction and lineage".
Did he go around to everyone attending the wedding saying
"I am proud to be a M'trian Deshasta Brahmin"
"I am proud to be a M'trian Deshasta Brahmin".
"I am proud to be a M'trian Deshasta Brahmin".
"I am proud to be a M'trian Deshasta Brahmin".
rk-
Nikhil Deo
LOL!
It must have been
"I am proud to be a M'trian Deshasta Brahmin... but we are not related to
'that' Dravid"
"I am proud to be a M'trian Deshasta Brahmin... but we are not related to
'that' Dravid"
.
.
.
.
dodo
> Sanjay Karmakar wrote:-
> > Had the pleasure of meeting Rahul at a Marathi wedding.
> > His whole family is very maharastrian (Deshastha Brahman
> > to be exact) and seemed very proud of their extraction and lineage.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Just to let you know that I asked that question out of
> curiosity.
>
> What do u mean "proud of their extraction and lineage".
Dravid's in-laws to be also make a big deal about being D'shastha at
the end of this article.
http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2003/apr/02vijeta.htm
BTW, this stuff about caste and all is interesting. Brought up in
India with a "secular" education in a school run by Christians, I
ended up with a "civics" inspired dislike for questions such as caste,
and the like.
However, now I feel this keeps part of our history away from us... and
I find myself curious to learn these details
Narayanan
"Devdas" <devdas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> s_kar...@hotmail.com (Sanjiv Karmarkar) wrote in message
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>
> > Had the pleasure of meeting Rahul at a Marathi wedding.
> > His whole family is very maharastrian (Deshastha Brahman
> > to be exact) and seemed very proud of their extraction
> > and lineage.
> >
> > Incidently, Dravid is a fairly common last name in the
> > Marathi Brahman community. There was a Dravid in the
> > "Godse gang" that Perpetrated to kill M. K. Gandhi.
> >
> > Sanjiv
>
> Dravid is a surname of Tamil Iyengars too.
Not true.
>There was an
> article in rediff in 1996 that Dravid spoke in fluent
> Tamil on Sun TV in one of their programmes.
No he didn't. Actually the programe was in 1997(Pepsi Ungal
Choice). He however understood tamil quite well. By that I mean
he understood some of the usages which was spoken by the
viewers over the phone little more than an avg Banglorean would
speak/understand. He responded only in English. My impression
was he would be able to speak tamil but wasn't sure of formal way
of speaking etc. And he seemed to be aware of some contemporary
Tam film songs.
Balaji Murthy
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>
> Had the pleasure of meeting Rahul at a Marathi wedding.
> His whole family is very maharastrian (Deshastha Brahman
> to be exact) and seemed very proud of their extraction
> and lineage.
Deshastha is not exclusively Maharashtrian nor does it automatically
imply Maharashtrianism. In fact, Deshastha Brahmans are very
common in Karnataka among Madhwas. From what I know
Konkanastha are more prevalent in Maharashtra than Deshasthas.
- Balaji
desi
The suburb he grew up in blore(Indiranagar???) and also the fact he
played lot of cricket in madras must have helped his tamil more than
family lineage.
Lax
> Choice). He however understood tamil quite well. By that I mean
> he understood some of the usages which was spoken by the
> viewers over the phone little more than an avg Banglorean would
> speak/understand. He responded only in English. My impression
> was he would be able to speak tamil but wasn't sure of formal way
> of speaking etc. And he seemed to be aware of some contemporary
> Tam film songs.
I remember watching this prog., though I know not a word of Tamil.
There was a huge ad in "The Hindu" that morning abt. the prog.
Those days cricketers in a non-cricket prog. on TV was a novelty(is it
still?) and I remember watching this huge, heavily made-up fatso lady
stading next to Dravid. He answered all the while in English.
I actually remember him mouthing a phrase of Telugu.
It was some kind of a promo for HYD. Ranji player M.V.Sridhar's prog.
on Eenadu TV, some "Vijayam Manade" or like (Eng: Victory is ours) and
the promo was a series of shortcuts of cricketers mouthing "Vijayam
Manade". Though just two words, Dravid looked quite OK in Telugu,
anyone know if he can speak Telugu.
I believe Venkatesh Prasad can.
Lax
rkusenet
I got a reply from Sanjay Karmakar and he clarified it. Makes
interesting reading. Actually that statement (proud of their
extraction and lineage)
was about Rahul's father.
rk-
Ramakrishnan G
"desi" <cheer...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Indira Nagar, it is! 12th Main, to be precise. One can spot the Dravid
residence immediately. I am not sure about this 'played a lot of cricket in
madras' part though. Did he at all? Dravid mentioned Keki Tarapore as his
coach. Where was he based out of? Surely not Madras?
samarth harish shah
<snip>
> Indira Nagar, it is! 12th Main, to be precise. One can spot the Dravid
> residence immediately. I am not sure about this 'played a lot of cricket in
> madras' part though. Did he at all? Dravid mentioned Keki Tarapore as his
> coach. Where was he based out of? Surely not Madras?
Dravid played a lot of club cricket in Madras in the 90s. He was well
known in Madras club circles before his international cricket days and he
continued to play in the Madras leagues even after gaining international
stardom. Most of the Karnataka players played club cricket in Madras at
some time or another, including international stars such as Kumble and
Dravid. Dravid played for HCL-HP's Vijay CC team in the mid- to late-90s
and was supposedly involved in getting other Karnataka players signed up
in the Madras leagues at the time. A college team-mate of mine used to
play for the same club.
-Samarth.
Devdas
> Not true.
I have met an Iyengar family with this surname.
BTW, the way Dravid speaks English has a distinct south indian/tamil
tone to it. I don't think North Indians/Maharshtrians based in
Bangalore have such an accent.
Devdas
Aditya Basrur
Yes. He did go to St Josephs in Bangalore - likely to be where he learnt his
English.
For what it's worth, all the Bangalore Josephites I've met speak excellent
English. Free of inflections or grammatical imperfections. Their offspring
are also upstanding individuals who know a great deal about Cricket and look
great in Nehru-coats.
Aditya [Figure out why I've focused on offspring, and I'll send you 5
turkish lira by Western Union Money Transfer] Basrur
Spaceman Spiff
Aditya Basrur <firstname...@hotmail.com> drummed on his chest and
bellowed:
>
> Aditya [Figure out why I've focused on offspring, and I'll send you 5
> turkish lira by Western Union Money Transfer] Basrur
so you're a chip of an old josephite blockhead, are you?
--
stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff
She lit a burner on the stove and offered me a pipe
I thought you'd never say hello, she said
You look like the silent type.
Then she opened up a book of poems and handed it to me
Written by an Italian poet from the thirteenth century
And every one of them words rang true and glowed like burnin' coal
Pourin' off of every page like it was written in my soul from me to you
Tangled up in blue
Aditya Basrur
> Raising himself from all fours,
> Aditya Basrur <firstname...@hotmail.com> drummed on his chest
> and bellowed:
>>
>> Aditya [Figure out why I've focused on offspring, and I'll send you 5
>> turkish lira by Western Union Money Transfer] Basrur
>
> so you're a chip of an old josephite blockhead, are you?
Well, I would have said Dad's head was more round.
Aditya