Christian cricketers for India
Vicky B. Vigneswaran
David Johnson (in 1996) is the only one I could think of!
Vicky:
Madhusudan Singh
Roger Binny (?) and Noel David (was he Jewish instead ?) come to mind.
p
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> Can someone list the Christian cricketer played for India since 1980?
>
> David Johnson (in 1996) is the only one I could think of!
>
>
It's an odd cultural observation that we are actually interested in the
religion of Indian cricketers whereas with Australia, other than Matt
Hayden, I don't know if any others are considered Christian or anything else
for that matter.
So tell me, of the current Indian touring team, who belongs to what religion
and do they practice the faith diligently, or is it simply an issue of
heritage?
pharro
sriram
Noel who?
Ramakrishnan G
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> On Sunday 28 December 2003 00:13, sriram (an...@ltd.com) held forth in
> rec.sport.cricket (<Xns945EEC8...@207.217.77.206>):
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> >> Roger Binny (?) and Noel David (was he Jewish instead ?) come to mind.
> >
> > Noel who?
>
You dont know the Noel story, do you? :-)
Narendra Karambelkar
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Chandu Borde ?
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> On Sunday 28 December 2003 00:13, sriram (an...@ltd.com) held forth in
> rec.sport.cricket (<Xns945EEC8...@207.217.77.206>):
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>
>>
>>Noel who?
>
>
Prabhu Rangarajan
pharro, most of them are nominal. Except Jacob Martin who came close
to getting into the Indian side couple of years back.
You guys forgot Vijay Samuel Hazare, one of India's most prolific
bats, with a Test avg of 47.65!
yup, Chandu and Johnson are right. However Binny is an Anglo-Indian,
so his roots are English.
As such there are few cricketers of Christian origin in domestic
cricket itself. Can recollect Alfred Burrows of the Railways, in early
80s. Maharashtra had a pretty good bowler called Daniel in early 80s.
Paul Satish Moses(TN, late 70s) made it to South Zone level I think.
Kerala had lots of them like the bespectacled opener Thomas Mathew,
Ranjit Thomas in the 80s. Ashish Winston Zaidi promised much for India
U-xx teams in late 80s. Jerry Fernanadez was a decent opening bowler
for Goa.
The Hyderabad/AP teams have a few like Oscar Vinod Kumar, his bro
Vincent Vinay Kumar, Daniel Manohar. Rowland Barrington(sounds Anglo)
for Karnataka...Connor Williams for Baroda complete the list.
Besides these very little.
Hope Sadiq will throw more info, esp Daniel who had a pretty decent
record.
dodo
Abey Kuruvilla, Roger Binny, Jacob Martin
Chandu Borde, Vijay Hazare
David Johnson, Kripal Singh, Yohannan
In the coming group ... Akash Christian, Yohannan, Barrington Rowland, Binny JNr.
Also found the following thread http://tinyurl.com/yuzmp
Prabhu Rangarajan
Tinu already played didnt he? but rapidly degenerated after
international exposure. His dad was more illustrious - came out of
nowhere into the Teheran Asiad '74 and kicked sand at 8.07m to win the
long jump, an Asian Record to boot. I think it lasted till 1990 and
was broken by Yang Zedong with 8.23m.
How about Sunil Oasis from Kerala?
Is Surti a Parsi surname? I read Rusi Surti's interview once where he
talked about getting his sons 'baptised'. Do Parsees baptise too?
Cheers,
Prabhu
DiiVolunt
> Can someone list the Christian cricketer played for India since 1980?
>
> David Johnson (in 1996) is the only one I could think of!
>
> Vicky:
Complete list:
Roger Binny: Listed as first born christian to play in Illustrated
weekly 1980 circa.
Chandu Borde, Vijay Hazare, Kripal Singh were not born but converted
soon in childhood or via marriage...Hazare seems to have converted
again in his second marriage late in life..
Since then Kiran More (converted), Abey Kuruvilla, Tinu Yohannan,
Jacob Martin, Connor Williams ("the Dennesse test"), David Johnson
complete the group.
So 10 Christian international cricketers, (8 in official tests),...
Parsis have 11 representatives (they are about 1/300rths of
christians) and Sikhs (similar population size as christians) have 14
representatives..
(one Kripal gets counted in both :-))
Scheduled Tribals with 4 times their population has one Lalchand
Rajput.
UP with nine times that population has four. (though Nikhil Chopra,
Akash Chopra, Robin Singh, LR Shukla and several others were born
thereabouts)..
Engineer is probably only parsi to play one day internationals?
regards
PRanshu B Saxena
regards
Pranshu B SAxena
DiiVolunt
> international exposure. His dad was more illustrious - came out of
> nowhere into the Teheran Asiad '74 and kicked sand at 8.07m to win the
> long jump, an Asian Record to boot. I think it lasted till 1990 and
> was broken by Yang Zedong with 8.23m.
>
> How about Sunil Oasis from Kerala?
>
> Is Surti a Parsi surname? I read Rusi Surti's interview once where he
> talked about getting his sons 'baptised'. Do Parsees baptise too?
>
> Cheers,
> Prabhu
surti like bedi and sobers married an australian wife.
regards
Pranshu B
h r i p a t h i k a m a t h @hotmail.com Shripathi Kamath
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<snip>
> surti like bedi and sobers married an australian wife.
Is polyandry legal in Australia?
--
Shripathi Kamath
Amol Cricketwallah
>
> talked about getting his sons 'baptised'. Do Parsees baptise too?
>
I'd guess Surti is Parsi, yes - Rusi is very common Parsi name as
well (Rusi Modi was a very good Indian batsman in the early days).
Rusi Surti's family probably got the name because they were from
the Surat area of Gujarat.
Parsis dont actually baptise, but they do have a ceremony called a
"navjot" - sort of a rite of passage in life that makes a boy into
a man etc, not entirely different from "Confirmation" I suppose (if
not quite baptism). They also have quite terrific food to celebrate
navjots, BTW - always make it a point to try and cadge an invitation
to one when Iam in Bombay :-)
Anyway, maybe that was what Surti was referring to, and translating
it for an English audience. Or, else, he might have converted - he
has been in Australia for a very long time now.
Sadiq [ Hyderabad's next good fast bowler will be Alfred Absolom ] Yusuf
P.S. Also, Kerala has a kid who was one of only 3 Indian kids selected
to go to the Aussie Academy for training - people like Parthiv, Irfan
Pathan etc have been selected for that before now. Name of Raiphy
Vincent Gomez. Might see him in a Kerala team, and maybe even an
Indian team, down the road (he's a bit of an allrounder, too).
> Cheers,
> Prabhu
Vicky B. Vigneswaran
Parsi names I could relate with Indian cricket.
Have a look at these links, which list a number of Parsi cricketers.
Fielding a Parsi by Ramachandra Guha
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/mag/2002/08/18/stories/2002081800240300.htm
A landmark year for cricket literature
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/2001/09/01/stories/0701028s.htm
Interetingly, there is a claim that the first Indian team to tour a
foreign nation ever was the Parsi team. It went to England in 1886.
Prabhu Rangarajan
Did Michael Dalvi ever play for India?
Wasnt aware that Kiran 'Shankar' More converted for his marriage.
Did V.S.Hazare convert midway? I thought the Samuel in VSH remained
right through his career.
Cheers,
Prabhu
Any info on 'Pilloo Reporter's peculiar name and its orgins?
Narendra Karambelkar
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More converted for marriage ? His wife is grand daughter of famours late
Marathi singer Jyostna Bhole from Pune. Bhole family is well known & they
are Maharashtrian Hindu's. I think More married as soon as the girl tuned
18. Dont really know why he had to convert for this marriage.
Narendra Karambelkar
> Is Surti a Parsi surname? I read Rusi Surti's interview once where he
> talked about getting his sons 'baptised'. Do Parsees baptise too?
>
> Cheers,
> Prabhu
Baptism by fire on the field .... :))))
DiiVolunt
Hi,
we had a full discussion on old parsi tours of 1886, 1888 where they
did better too and parsi wins over harris 's guys in 1892 and over
authentics in 1902-03...
even in 1926, when first ever Indian XI assembled to play MCC in first
ever unofficial test, 54 year old KM Mistry was the captain and
scored 51 at #9.
And i quote the author from "Gentleman's Game: Indian Cricket
Captains":
Saurav Ganguly is soon going to be nominated as India ‘s captain for
the ICC world Cup. Logic dictates, a coup-de-etat aside, he will also
lead the Indian team out on a warm November morning at Bangbandhu
Stadium as India ‘s next Test captain, having held the ODI crown for
close to 5 months now. It will be a warm morning because of the joys
and jubilation of the millions of Bengalis celebrating the accession
of the third successor state of British empire as the Tenth
test-playing nation. It would be fitting tribute as a Bengali Indian
skipper will go out to toss with his Bangladeshi "brother" captain, in
more than one sense of the word.
It gave me pause to look at Indian captains, official and Un-official
over the past hundred years and follow the history of our cricket
through the reigns of its rulers on the field, The Indian captains.
Records tell us that Parsis of Mumbai, who were the first Indians to
embrace what was to become the national madness took out two cricket
tours to United Kingdom in summers of 1886 and 1888, latter year being
a more fruitful visit.
Please forgive the lack of details and a patchy narrative of those
early years, as I search through "Pranshu ‘s frayed notebooks" for
details I recorded over years and noted down on bits of papers where I
could find them. These I deemed more worthy than that C++ manual when
I embarked on the journey into United States.
The few scribbled lines tell of a tour undertaken under the leadership
of Vernon and included Walker, Lord Hawke, CI Thornton among others.
They defeated the All Ceylon XI easily in two matches they played vs.
them. Then they started a merry journey across the sub-continent,
interspersed among shikars and princely banquets; they played some
games against the Indian sides.
At Allahbad's Alfred Park, (Prayag for the traditionalists), the chief
English garrison center on the confluence of Ganga and Yamuna, the
first even All India XI assembled to give battle to the English. India
scored 159 in the first essay with Masham scoring 56 (the name written
in pencil now illegible on the yellowed parchment), England replied
with 154 as All India took first innings lead. In the second knock,
India XI mustered 191 as our first hero of the pages, NV Bapasola
scored 58. A parsi gentleman from Bombay, he mixed curious aggression
with obdurate defense and presence of mind in stealing singles,
frowned down by many of his colleagues as not honorable way of
accumulating runs. The English amateurs lead by Walker ‘s 108, scored
197/4 to win that first encounter. In the year before, an even weaker
English team toured South Africa; none of the players would make the
county starting lineups next season and played 1st Official Test
matches with them. The south african sides scrambled to make 47 and 43
in the second "TEST".
In India, GF Vernon ‘s stronger side fought tooth and nail against the
European sides and Parsi sides in India, honors shared by both sides.
In Mumbai, the great Parsi bowler (and our first hero of these
annals), M.E. Pavri took 7/34 in second innings to restrict English to
61 all out, one of the lowest scores ever by visitors on Indian
subcontinent and then struck 21 of the best to take Parsi side to
victory at 77/6. For statistically minded, the scores were English 97
& 61 vs. Parsis 82 & 77/6.
In the return match, English 325 (Walker 61, Hawke 65, Gibson 55)
easily defeated the Parsis 158 & 127 all out.
I did not record and was not able to find out the name of the Indian
skipper for the Allahbad match who in sense was the first Indian
"skipper". Maybe, another connoisseur of that era has that important
detail.
Whoever that personage was, his place has been eclipsed through the
fog of history just like that of America ‘s 1st President, Peyton
Randolph of Virginia who was overshadowed by his illustrious
successor, George Washinton. Similar fate befell India ‘s First
Chairman of Constituent assembly, Dr. Sachhidanand Sinha. These
personages appear momentarily to guide the path of new ventures,
existing in the realm between "Not-there" and "Now" and after
fulfilling their obligations, they fade away from the public memory
and pages of history, thrusting their burdens on more popular
shoulders. In case of Indian Cricket History, those shoulders were
those of M.E. Pavri.
In 1892-93, Lord Hawke, later Governor of Madras, brought to the
subcontinent a successful side, which had defeated South Africans in
Test matches, and twice humbled the pride of Philadelphia and Canada
in 1891 and then later in 1894.
This was a momentous season for Indian cricket. This was the year when
matches in India gained the first class status with First Presidency
matches taking place between Europeans and Parsis. Parsi side was lead
by M.E. Pavri, their opening bowler and sometime opening batsman. His
deputy being NC Bapasola.
The season started with Europeans drawing a rainy match vs. Parsis,
Bapasola 12/3 and Kanga 30/4. In the second encounter, Parsis defeated
Europeans at Poona to become the first Indian champions. Pavri
contributing to victory by taking 25/3 in1st innings and top scoring
with 31 in 87/7 in second innings to score the win. Not only, his
deeds with bat and ball but his brain also contributed to the win
where his batting order changes defeated the sticky-dog pitch, NC
Bapasola going in at #11 scored 11 runs, invaluable in a match where
37 wickets fell for 365 runs. Interestingly, these matches had 5-ball
overs.
Then against Lord Hawke ‘s side, four of the seven matches they played
were considered were later enrolled in Wisden as first class matches.
These included two encounters with Parsis, one against the Bombay
Presidency and final one vs. All India XI at where else but Allahbad.
Versus Parsis in the first encounter, AGJ Hill took 5 for 7 in Parsis
93 all out; in reply Bapasola 37/4 restricted English to 73. In second
innings, Bapasola scored 52 of the best, setting a target of 163 for
Hawke's XI. They scored 93 as Pavri bowled through out the innings
36/6 and Kanga took 32/4 to spoil the visitor's Christmas.
Hawke ‘s side then easily defeated the Bombay presidency and set up a
rematch against the Parsis over the new year. Hornsby restricted
Parsis to 127 after Hawke XI was shot out for 139. Writer then
proceeded to bowl out the visitors for 85, claiming 8 wickets for 35
runs (12 for 51 for the match.). A target of 98 turned into an ascent
for Everest on the watered pitch as Bapasola was left unconquered but
defeated as Parsis were all out for 90; JHJ Hornsby followed up his 23
& 21 with bat with 7/46 and 8/40 with the ball. Even in lower levels
of cricket, such an all round performance would be a rare find.
Calcutta gentleman restored honor when they nearly defeated Hawke ‘s
side after following on and only time prevented the visitor's second
defeat.
At Muzzeferpur, Parsis dominated the local side and inflicted second
defeat on the visitors, Pavri taking 5/30 while Writer 7/43.
Finally, the festivities and the tour came to end at Allahbad where
again an All-India XI was assembled under Pavri to take on the
visitors. Troup scored 49 and Pavri 29 but the later batsmen collapsed
setting a trend for later Indian sides to emulate. India mustered 139.
Hawke ‘s XI, lead by GF Vernon thanks to his lordship ‘s delicate
constitution, scored 343 lead by Hill ‘s 132 and fifties by Gibson and
Vernon himself. Bapasola fought a lone battle with 65 as India side
failed to build on another good start and was all out for 199 to lose
by innings and five runs.
It was an interesting lesson for Indian cricket and we took our first
baby steps towards international recognition as a Cricketing power. It
was course of events which saw that infancy last a forty years before
we played our first test match at Lord's 1932.
As for Allahbad ‘s Alfred Park, where Indian cricket took those
fledgling steps towards the test status, it has since became a
pilgrimage center of a different kind. Here in its soil is mixed the
blood of India ‘s great son, Chandrasekhar Azad. He played out the
last innings of his life fighting the British for a different yet
similar kind of international recognition till his bullets ran out
amidst the verdant grove. He used the last bullet on himself and
became immortal. The place where All-India XI assembled for first time
is now called the Shaheed Chandrasekhara Azad Park.
On that note, let us close the first chapter.
regards
Pranshu B Saxena
DiiVolunt
> prabh...@hotmail.com (Prabhu Rangarajan) wrote in message news:<b0325b5a.03122...@posting.google.com>...
> >
> > Is Surti a Parsi surname? I read Rusi Surti's interview once where he
> > talked about getting his sons 'baptised'. Do Parsees baptise too?
> >
>
> it for an English audience. Or, else, he might have converted - he
> has been in Australia for a very long time now.
>
>
> Sadiq [ Hyderabad's next good fast bowler will be Alfred Absolom ] Yusuf
>
Absolom is the name around for a long time...remember reading bible
long time back, was'nt it name of solomon' brother...one who was a
villain of sorts to solomon or david.. got hanged by his long hair..or
maybe one who kills the villain...john dryden had a great poem which
was an allegory titled absolom something...Interesting name...also
Faulkner 's civil war tale was titled Absolom! Absolom!
interesting name...wonder what it meant..peace something
regards
Pranshu B Saxena
p.s. Rowland Barrington means Famous in Town of Barr..parents should
check the meaning before naming kids...
Cric8wala
Not all that peculiar, I dont think.
Piloo is another fairly common Parsi name - there are several Piloo's in
Bombay, dozens probably :-) Piloo, Khusru, Rusi, Manek, Cyrus, Jamshed etc -
all fairly common names for Parsi boys I think. Have seen the name Piloo before
more than once (and have always presumed it was Parsi, though I suppose not all
have to be). Piloo Modi was a pretty famous parliamentarian and leader in the
60s and 70s as well, nationally famous.
As for "Reporter" - lots of those kinds of names too, especially in India. And
even more so among the Parsi community, really - Ive heard of Parsis with the
names "Mistry", "Engineer", "Writer", "Doctor", "Captain", "Lawyer" and so on.
All probably came from the professions of people many generations ago (one of
my "uncles" in Bombay is "Oonwala", which literally means wool-person, since
the family probably traded in wool in the old days).
Sadiq [ who hasnt had Parsi food in a while ] Yusuf
Prabhu Rangarajan
Missed out on Alan Sippy as well - was knocking on the doors of the
Indian team in mid eighties when they were looking for a left hander.
I'm not sure if his origin is Christian - first names may be
misleading :)
DiiVolunt
Vijay Hazare was baptized when young converted to different
denomination on first marriage and again on second marriage...they all
might be christian denominations...his son by second marriage was
hardly 20 in late 80s when he studied at IIT indicated that he (Vijay)
was not catholic anymore...
Pilloo reporter was/is Parsi....Reporter was common parsi last
name...Pilloo is common trading caste name in western coasts...many
parsis settled into trading community and hence adopted some customs
or customs might have come from persia itself as persia was our major
trading partner for centuries and persians and indians are close
cousins ethnically....
I dont know wether Kiran More converted for marriage or found God...he
was baptized..
regards
PRanshu B Saxena
Prabhu Rangarajan
Good info Sadiq/Pranshu. This probably sums up most of the FC
cricketers we have/had.
Most probably hockey had the highest minority representation down the
ages - Sikhs, Muslims, Christians....
Prabhu Rangarajan
Of course the usual history of Bedi and Glenn Turner being close
friends - Turner marrying a Sikh girl Sukhbir and Bishen marrying an
Aussie.
Gafoor
> Most probably hockey had the highest minority representation down the
> ages - Sikhs, Muslims, Christians....
I am not sure you can Sikhs a minority. They are probably as much
a minority as Tamils or Kannads or Maharashtrians or Bengalis.
Minority in the context of India is a population spread across the
country & not really concentrated in 1 state etc.
Aditya Basrur
If Bishen was a close friend of Turner's, the last thing he'd do would be to
marry an Australian. But considering the girls in NZ, I wouldn't say he was
necessarily unwise.
Incidentally, Sukhi Turner was mayor of Dunedin for quite some time. Her
family has a successful chain of Indian restaurants (called Little India)
all over the South Island. I think they may have opened a branch in
Wellington as well. Great Saag Paneer.
Aditya
Aditya Basrur
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I think it's fairly obvious from the context that Prabhu is talking about
religious minorities. Even in your twisted world-view, Sikhs should qualify
as religious minorities. Your point on "population spread across the
country" may well be valid - in another thread. This is what happens when
you jump into a discussion without knowing anything about it - but you'd
know all about that.
Even your other falsified condition - of "a population spread across the
country and not really concentrated in 1 state" - is met by the Sikhs. There
are large concentrations of Sikhs all over India, from what I've seen. Yes,
they are distinguished by both language and religion. The linguistic aspect
does not nullify or even contradict the religious one. And the situation is
completely distinguishable from "Tamils or Kannads or Maharashtrians or
Bengalis". Sikhs are a subset of Punjabi-speakers and not the only speakers
of the Punjabi language. But then again, this is what you "probably meant"
and you were "just kidding", right?
Great post, Bhuvan. Happy New Year.
Aditya
Prabhu Rangarajan
> a minority as Tamils or Kannads or Maharashtrians or Bengalis.
>
> Minority in the context of India is a population spread across the
> country & not really concentrated in 1 state etc.
As Aditya wrote, I meant minority in terms of religious
representation.
If Rusi Modi and Rusi Surti are Parsees, does it mean Modi is
necessarily a Parsi surname, or does it cut across religions? We had a
'Syed Modi', there are Hindus with Modi surname and I have heard of
Muslims with the surname Surti.
Cheers,
Prabhu
Gafoor
> "Gafoor" <rro...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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>> I am not sure you can Sikhs a minority. They are probably as much
>> a minority as Tamils or Kannads or Maharashtrians or Bengalis.
>>
>> Minority in the context of India is a population spread across the
>> country & not really concentrated in 1 state etc.
>
> As Aditya wrote,
I will try to check what he wrote - looks like the little fool
is back from a vacation or whatever.
> I meant minority in terms of religious
> representation.
OK.
>
> If Rusi Modi and Rusi Surti are Parsees, does it mean Modi is
> necessarily a Parsi surname, or does it cut across religions? We had a
> 'Syed Modi', there are Hindus with Modi surname and I have heard of
> Muslims with the surname Surti.
I don't understand what this is reference to.
Amol Cricketwallah
> "Gafoor" <rro...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:<bssv6q$16e4u$1...@ID-27262.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>
> necessarily a Parsi surname, or does it cut across religions? We had a
> 'Syed Modi', there are Hindus with Modi surname and I have heard of
> Muslims with the surname Surti.
>
Modi cuts across all religious lines - its a profession-based name
originally IIRC. Syed Modi was a Muslim, Rusi Modi was a Parsi as
mentioned above, and the famous Narendra Modi is quite obviously
a Hindu :-) It can be sort of like Patel - another name that can cut
across several religions. Rusi Modi is obviously a Parsi, however,
due to the combination of his first and last names (Rusi is a very
Parsi name). You can often tell by the combination - Rashid Patel
was a Muslim, as is Munaf Patel (who also goes by Munaf Mirza
sometimes).
The name Surti also does - but its regional-based, from Surat IIRC.
People from different religions had that name when they moved from
there in the old days probably - and retained it.
It might start to sound complicated, but it really isnt - much harder
to tell the difference between Iyers and Iyengars (and Vadagalai's
and Thengalai's) just from looking at names IMHO :-) Once asked that
question on rsc (expecting perhaps 2 responses), and it turned into
a thread that ran into about a 100 posts, IIRC :-)
Sadiq [ who found out things he had no clue about ] Yusuf
> Cheers,
> Prabhu
DiiVolunt
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> cricketers we have/had.
> Most probably hockey had the highest minority representation down the
> ages - Sikhs, Muslims, Christians....
Tennis, Snooker/Billiards even Athletics can be added to the list of
higher minority representation than population figures...
In India, religious minorities are about 18% of population and in
cities they are much higher in number almost 30% in many cases...also
class divide favours certain minorities...sports are an urban
phenomena and hence expect a urban trend towards representation...some
sports have major class divide hence expect a even more religious to
population disparity in representation...
hockey can be termed a rural game but game is very popular is certain
castes (rajputs and jats) and they dominate the scene... also these
are the castes which are religiously polyandrous....there are sikh,
hindu and muslim jats and rajputs...also hockey is a sport which is
built for cool winter afternoons prevalent in northern india and
pakistan evolving as it did from infantry excercises of a unmounted
martial population disdaining the cavalry sport of polo and is also
sport which requires minimum of equipment...so hockey partly bridges
the rural-urban divide and richest rural states are punjab and haryana
hence overwhelming representation from these states in the hockey
areana...right across the jamuna lies the same castes with same
traditions and same martial antecedents (uttarakhand alone supplies
more soldiers than punjab to national army) but poorness of villages
and economy shows in hockey team representation...
regards
Pranshu B Saxena
paull...@gmail.com
> Can someone list the Christian cricketer played for India since 1980?
>
> David Johnson (in 1996) is the only one I could think of!
>
> Vicky:
jwic...@gmail.com
> Can someone list the Christian cricketer played for India since 1980?
>
> David Johnson (in 1996) is the only one I could think of!
>
> Vicky:
https://vision180.org.au/2018/04/14/playing-gods-game-marnus-labuschagne/
