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Tosh

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Jan 4, 2003, 9:34:52 PM1/4/03
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in japan, that drawing right hand back to near the ear so easily seen the motion of the punch called "telephone punch."

because the pose right hand taking back to near the ear is like putting the receiver to the ear.

is this word "telephone punch" used in english?

Bomber

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Jan 4, 2003, 10:03:41 PM1/4/03
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you can "telegraph" a punch, but Ive never heard of a telephone punch.

In English, to telegraph a punch is to show it before you throw it -
somewhat similar to what you said, but doesnt have to be a shot from an ear.


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Ruddell

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Jan 4, 2003, 11:30:20 AM1/4/03
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Bomber wrote:

> you can "telegraph" a punch, but Ive never heard of a telephone punch.
>
> In English, to telegraph a punch is to show it before you throw it -
> somewhat similar to what you said, but doesnt have to be a shot from an ear.


Ok, this is boring but it has to be said...

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those who just don't know)


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Dennis Beebe

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Jan 5, 2003, 1:13:30 AM1/5/03
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You sure? I think it was Reo Speedwagon.

Tosh

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Jan 5, 2003, 3:13:12 AM1/5/03
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thanks to all.

there are some "wasei-eigo (japanese english)" in boxing term.
"telephone punch" is one of them.
famous writer and machmaker joe koizumi also use this word in his report.
so almost all japanese fan recognize "telephone punch" is pure english.

some terms i doubted japanese english or misunderstanding words are below. (example)


open blow: hitting with the open glove
inside blow: same as "open blow"
detroit style: hearns-like left hand hunging style
hitman style: same as "detroit style"
cross: punches over the opponent's shoulder or arm
slipping away: defensive movement that turn his face away
(orlando canizales uses this defense)
ring generalship: sportsmanlike manner. i think it is "ring gentlemanship."

Billy

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Jan 5, 2003, 9:33:55 AM1/5/03
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"Tosh" <cag0...@pop12.odn.ne.jp> wrote in message
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> thanks to all.


> slipping away: defensive movement that turn his face away
> (orlando canizales uses this defense)

slipping a punch means you're using just enough head movement to allow the
punch to whizz by and that puts you in a good position to counter before he
can bring the punch back. Really good fighters can slip and punch at the
same time but the movement is usually so quick that lots of spectators miss
what just happened.

There is also another move similar to slipping but it's different. It's when
you see the punch coming too late to slip so you turn your head "with" the
punch to take away it's force, and then counter. Roberto Duran was a flat
out *master* at that. You'd see him get hit and his head would turn and
water would fly off his hair and you'd swear he just got clobbered, but he
wasn't hurt because he took the energy out of the punch by going with it
that way.
I'm not sure if they have a specific name for that move or not, but it's a
smart thing to do when it's too late to get out of the way of a punch.

speedy

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Jan 5, 2003, 12:07:35 PM1/5/03
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"Ruddell" <ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
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I am beginning to worry about you Dennis !!

rich.


SkippyPB

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Jan 5, 2003, 12:14:30 PM1/5/03
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On Sat, 04 Jan 2003 10:30:20 -0600, Ruddell
<ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@accesscomm.ca> enlightened us:

Bzzzt..too much holiday cheer Dennis? Not a Joe Walsh album but
rather Champaign, IL's famous REO Speedwagon, released in 1978.

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Melanie Ley

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Jan 5, 2003, 2:21:36 PM1/5/03
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 17:13:12 +0900, "Tosh" <cag0...@pop12.odn.ne.jp>
wrote:

>some terms i doubted japanese english or misunderstanding words are below. (example)
>
>
>open blow: hitting with the open glove

Also known as "slapping."

>inside blow: same as "open blow"

Never heard it used in that context. "Working on the inside"
generally describes getting past an opponent's punches and landing
blows to the body.

>detroit style: hearns-like left hand hunging style

Never heard that one, either. "Detroit" or "Philly" styles
could describe a fighter who is flashy, or showboats, i.e., Floyd
Mayweather.

>ring generalship: sportsmanlike manner. i think it is "ring gentlemanship."

Ring generalship is generally used to describe the fighter who
has command of the fight - landing the majority of punches, dictating
the pace, making the other fighter come to him - being in charge.

Youre "ring gentlemanship" would translate into "good
sportsmanship." An example of that would be a fighter who loses
congratulating the winner and admiting he (the winner) was the better
man that fight.


Mel

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Simon Halifax

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Jan 5, 2003, 8:59:09 PM1/5/03
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"rolling with" a punch?

Billy

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Jan 6, 2003, 9:01:16 AM1/6/03
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"Simon Halifax" <shal...@gosympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> "rolling with" a punch?
>

Sounds like a judo move but it makes sense.

Ruddell

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Jan 6, 2003, 11:30:18 AM1/6/03
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In article <3E17CD16...@telus.net>, be...@telus.net says...

> You sure? I think it was Reo Speedwagon.


I sit corrected...pass the egg nog Skippy

Dennis


(sheesh, wonder how many times that's happened?)

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Ruddell

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Jan 6, 2003, 11:30:30 AM1/6/03
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In article <BEC18C6F58B4D5CA.E1231AE17A61A1EA.D2A77E3DAF07EBD6
@lp.airnews.net>, swie...@NOSPAM.neo.rr.com says...

> On Sat, 04 Jan 2003 10:30:20 -0600, Ruddell
> <ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@accesscomm.ca> enlightened us:
>
> >
> >
> >Bomber wrote:
> >
> >> you can "telegraph" a punch, but Ive never heard of a telephone punch.
> >>
> >> In English, to telegraph a punch is to show it before you throw it -
> >> somewhat similar to what you said, but doesnt have to be a shot from an ear.
> >
> >
> >Ok, this is boring but it has to be said...
> >
> >You can tune a piano, but you can't tuna fish...(Joe Walsh Album for
> >those who just don't know)
> >
> >
> >Dennis
>
> Bzzzt..too much holiday cheer Dennis? Not a Joe Walsh album but
> rather Champaign, IL's famous REO Speedwagon, released in 1978.


Burp!


Dennis

Ellis

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Feb 17, 2003, 4:08:10 AM2/17/03
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"Simon Halifax" <shal...@gosympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> "rolling with" a punch?

I've heard it called riding a punch.

Ellis
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