Calvin Grove fights...
Alister Scott Ottesen
between a young Calvin Grove and some guy called Kelvin Seabrooks form the
Tiger Eye boxing days, 1985 I think. It was a pretty entertaining fight
with Grove having to fight his way back from an early knockdown. I remember
he went on to win a title some years later, but has in recent years been
served as cannon fodder for guys like Gatti, Manfredy and Tszyu.
I am not familiar with Grove's career apart from the aforementioned fights
and I am wondering if anybody knows anything about him. Has he been in any
other memorable fights?
Thanks.
Alister
Wesley White
bag of wet cement and as the camara zooms in, blood is spewing like a
fountain.
He also had a pretty good fight with Reggie Tuur.
http://community.webtv.net/wyteboy/WesleysWebpage
Petri Paimander
1st of all, Kelvin Seabrooks is not a "some guy". When he finally got wise &
quit fighting guys 2-3 divisions bigger than him, he became IBF bantaweight
champ by 1987 by travelling to Colombia! and knocking out local star (and
cocaine addict) Miguel Maturana in 5. Made 3 HUGELY exciting title defences
in Europe before losing his title in a great scrap to Orlando Canizales by
15th-round stoppage. Canizales won the return in 11 & Seabrooks faded out of
sight....
Then to Calvin. Yep, he won a title too... IBF feather crown by KOing
Antonio "Torito" Rivera in France. i think that was 1987 as well. There was
a round-of-the-year-candidate as Rivera floored Grove in the 4th, Grove
barely beat the count, only to rally & have Rivera down thrice for automatic
TKO in the same round.
Grove defended his title with a points win over late sub Myron Taylor, then
in another great, memorable fight lost his title to then-totally-unknown
Jorge Paez in Tijuana/Mexicali bull ring. The fight had the last-ever 15th
round of a major title fight. Grove seemingly had the fight in the bag
before wilting in Mexican July heat, Paez put him down thrice in 15th &
secured the closest margin in cards by virtue of that 10-7 round.
After losing his title Grove had another go (stopped) vs. Paez, lost a
disputed hairline decision against very passive Azumah Nelson (these for
world titles) & basically fought Who is Who of lighter divisions. Some
mentionable victories came over Troy Dorsey, Regilio Tuur, Jeff Fenech (a
rare Grove KO win) and then-hot-prospect Dennis Cruz. Grove also suffered
several traumatic defeats (even before his "cannon-fodder" stage) against
such underdogs as Bryant Paden & 35-year-old Bernard Taylor who both knocked
somewhat fragile Grove out&cold.
pp
Someone with a record book in his hand can fill the gaps & check the
mistakes...
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"Petri Paimander" <petri.p...@rostek.fi> wrote in message
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Wow! Thanks for the information. I must say I did not know Kelvin Seabrooks
was a then-future champ when I watched the tape. I was guessing he was just
another journeyman of that era, you know, like he would have been to if
Grove (who was 19-0 then) was a prospect today.
By the way, just watched another old tape now, Anthony Witherspoon (Tim's
brother) vs. Tim Broady. Anyone remember that one? Short fight, but sweet as
hell. I gotta go through old tapes more often.
Alister
Ivan Weiss
> Going through some old boxing tapes a few days ago, I found an old fight
> between a young Calvin Grove and some guy called Kelvin Seabrooks form the
> Tiger Eye boxing days, 1985 I think. It was a pretty entertaining fight
> with Grove having to fight his way back from an early knockdown. I remember
> he went on to win a title some years later, but has in recent years been
> served as cannon fodder for guys like Gatti, Manfredy and Tszyu.
> I am not familiar with Grove's career apart from the aforementioned fights
> and I am wondering if anybody knows anything about him. Has he been in any
> other memorable fights?
> Thanks.
"Some guy named Kelvin Seabrooks" had a pretty good career, too, holding
the IBF featherweight title from 1987-88, despite having double figure
losses. As for Grove, he held the (IIRC) IBF featherweight title, which he
lost in one of the most memorable fights I ever saw, to Jorge Paez in the
heat of the Tijuana (or was it Mexicali) bull ring on USA. Paez, down by a
whopping margin going into the 15th round, floored Grove 3 times to eke
out the win on the scorecards. To be fair, the heat did Grove in, too.
Grove, who had been a classy boxer with a lot of skill but not a big
punch, wasn't quite the same fighter after that, and IMO he hung on much
too long afterward. I had heard he was getting into training. I hope so,
because he had a lot of skill, and in his prime was great to watch.
Ivan Weiss YEAR, n. A period of three hundred and sixty-five
Vashon WA disappointments.
-- Ambrose Bierce: The Devil's Dictionary
abc
Wesley White <wyt...@webtv.net> wrote in article
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> Your right about that wes, but i'm sure you'll agree that fenech was
pretty much used up at this point in his career. I don't know what
happened to fenech after the first nelson fight but he was never the same
after that. If fenech had anything left he would've walked through grove
with ease!
Robert Phillips
abc wrote:
> Your right about that wes, but i'm sure you'll agree that fenech was
> pretty much used up at this point in his career. I don't know what
> happened to fenech after the first nelson fight but he was never the same
> after that. If fenech had anything left he would've walked through grove
> with ease!
Fenech was used up, but he was also favoured over Grove (I think), who was
ALSO quite used up. There were two big surprises in that fight - that Fenech
got flattened like that, and that Grove was the one who did it.
Pie
Petri Paimander
Seabrooks
> was a then-future champ when I watched the tape. I was guessing he was
just
> another journeyman of that era, you know, like he would have been to if
> Grove (who was 19-0 then) was a prospect today.
> By the way, just watched another old tape now, Anthony Witherspoon (Tim's
> brother) vs. Tim Broady. Anyone remember that one? Short fight, but sweet
as
> hell. I gotta go through old tapes more often.
>
> Alister
>
>
At the point when he met Grove, Seabrooks was just another journeyman. The
transition he made when he moved from feathers/super-feathers down to
bantams was very remarkable. Remember, he had some 11-12 losses before that
move & burst to to world-class.....
pp