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Kevin Hartmann

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Oct 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/22/96
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I love the sport of boxing but the decisions the judges are coming up
with are outragous. Billy Irwin lost at least 10 of 12 rounds on Friday
night yet still won the fight. Now the African fighter ( sorry name slips me)
has a blemished record. His chances for a big money fight are not nearly as
good at this point.


Something has to be done. Any ideas what the world of pro boxing can
realistically do about this problem?


Kevin

Nelson Patenaude

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Oct 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/22/96
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Kevin Hartmann (khar...@direct.ca) wrote:
> I love the sport of boxing but the decisions the judges are coming up
> with are outragous. Billy Irwin lost at least 10 of 12 rounds on Friday
> night yet still won the fight. Now the African fighter ( sorry name slips me)
> has a blemished record. His chances for a big money fight are not nearly as
> good at this point.

David Tetteh was robbed first by his management for making him as the
champion fight in Canada and then secondly by the judges.

> Something has to be done. Any ideas what the world of pro boxing can
> realistically do about this problem?

I cant see anything that can be done.


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Dublin 1

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Oct 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/23/96
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Hey, they just put the same assholes (commissioners) in charge of boxing
everywhere with the boxing bill just signed by Bill.
That will cure all you FANS sores.
Boxing is now legitimate!
But, waite, these are the same guys that have been ripping off fighters
with their crooked officials for years, but they hate fighters that change
their name and fight to keep control of their lives.
We have a new federal boxing commission that will solve all the corruption
in boxing, but who will handle the corruption they impose?
I love boxing fans!
They think the govmnt will solve their problems, but they never admit that
the govmnt is the cause of their problems.
Hey, boxing is saved. A commissioner, who yesterday was a engineer, but
gave money to the right party, will now solve all the problems boxing fans
have will corrupt decisions!
Ain't the newe socialist american socitey great!
Dub

Christopher Lane Filbey

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Oct 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/23/96
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Kevin Hartmann wrote:
>
> I love the sport of boxing but the decisions the judges are coming up
> with are outragous. Billy Irwin lost at least 10 of 12 rounds on Friday
> night yet still won the fight.

I didn't see the first three rounds of this, but I saw a very
ineffective Billy Irwin. What makes this even worse is that two judges
gave the fight to Irwin, while one called it a draw, likely because he
knew Irwin lost but didn't want to blemish his perfect record (shades of
Whitaker/Chavez). Now Irwin wants to take on the lightweights from the
"Big Three"? Hah! If he performs like that, no biased decision will save
him.

> Now the African fighter ( sorry name slips me)
> has a blemished record. His chances for a big money fight are not nearly as
> good at this point.
>

> Something has to be done. Any ideas what the world of pro boxing can
> realistically do about this problem?

One thing that comes to mind immediately - hold fights on neutral
ground. If you hold a fight in someone's hometown or even "home area",
it doesn't matter where the judges are from, they don't want the crowd
to be disappointed (again, shades of what should have been Chavez's
first loss). Make no mistake, Irwin won that fight because he was the
"hometown boy".

Chris

TIM BLAKE

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Oct 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/23/96
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In a previous article, dub...@aol.com (Dublin 1) says:

>We have a new federal boxing commission that will solve all the corruption
>in boxing, but who will handle the corruption they impose?

Where do you get this ludicrous stuff? The law, whether you like it
or not, does *not* create any federal boxing commission. Why not try
reading it before spewing more of these incoherent ramblings?

>I love boxing fans!
>They think the govmnt will solve their problems, but they never admit that
>the govmnt is the cause of their problems.

Perhaps some confused souls cause their own problems, what?

>Hey, boxing is saved. A commissioner, who yesterday was a engineer, but
>gave money to the right party, will now solve all the problems boxing fans
>have will corrupt decisions!
>Ain't the newe socialist american socitey great!
>Dub

Yeh, right, a late captalist "socialist" U.S. A commie under every
bed too, eh? About as socialist as my Irish ***.
--
TJB@PHXAZUSA

Dublin 1

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Oct 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/24/96
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Where do you get this ludicrous stuff? The law, whether you like it
or not, does *not* create any federal boxing commission. Why not try
reading it before spewing more of these incoherent ramblings?

Are you real?
Yes, there is no boxing Czar. But there is a pletheroa of power hunger
jerks in every state that now have the power over working Americans to
decide their future, and extort their living.
Socialism rules, because your friendly govm commissioner can root out all
boxing guys that don't kick back to him, and take their license, and now
that will be held up country wide.
Let me ask you something genius, what in that bill, and I have read it,
says anything about finding new punishment for commissioners who violate
the law?
New laws for those that create opportunity for fighters, but those that
have unfunded mandates delivered by govmt edict, to demonstrate to the
straights of the world how much they care about fighters, there is no
minimum sentences.
A small example, effecting a few, but just a bit more of your freedom
given up for security.
Eat it!
Dub!

TIM BLAKE

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Oct 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/24/96
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In a previous article, dub...@aol.com (Dublin 1) says:

>Yes, there is no boxing Czar. But there is a pletheroa of power hunger
>jerks in every state that now have the power over working Americans to
>decide their future, and extort their living.
>Socialism rules, because your friendly govm commissioner can root out all

Someone mentioned having taken a college logic course. You need
a basic poli. sci. course.
--
TJB@PHXAZUSA

jmla...@ivory.trentu.ca

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Oct 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/24/96
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In article <54hmn5$k...@aphex.direct.ca>, khar...@direct.ca (Kevin Hartmann) writes:
> I love the sport of boxing but the decisions the judges are coming up
>with are outragous. Billy Irwin lost at least 10 of 12 rounds on Friday
>night yet still won the fight. Now the African fighter ( sorry name slips me)

>has a blemished record. His chances for a big money fight are not nearly as
>good at this point.
>
>
>Something has to be done. Any ideas what the world of pro boxing can
>realistically do about this problem?
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
While the judging in the Irwin-Tetteh fight was very questionable,
the judging in the previous fight (Eric Lucas versus Frazier)
(same judges) was the worst I have ever witnessed.
Lucas fought essentially the same fight he did against Roy Jones,
holding his gloves high and peeking out behind them,
throwing very few punches each round and landing single digit
totals in some rounds, while the other guy dominated the last
seven rounds and won at least nine. One judge had Lucas seven or
eight rounds ahead. Sobering.

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