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Could Mike Tyson ever have had multiple personality disorder
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savair
May 3, 2013, 11:11:02 PM5/3/13
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Here is my reasoning for the question and you all tell me if you agree or disagree. There are a lot of people who are friends with Mike Tyson who I am kind of surprised are friends with him, for example I heard Roseanne Barr was good friends with him. Considering she is had several abusive relationships this is kind of surprising. Some people meet Tyson and say he is gentle as a mouse yet others would not go near him. How gentle was he the night he bit Holyfelds ear off though?
Then there is the rape conviction, if he had a multiple personality disorder could it be he did not remember what happened that night, thus not remember raping her? Tyson did not have an easy childhood, and my theory is when he was in the ring he was a different personality. Another argument is how different he looked the night he fought Douglas, if you notice they did not interview him until later, maybe thats when he had cooled down and changed personalities he was a different personality that night.
Now I am not sure if a prison therapist would miss something like this or not? What I find amazing is all the people who have managed to be friends with Tyson and not said he was violent. Yet we see him snap in the ring with Holyfeld and do things that are pretty ridiculous.
Then there is the rape conviction, if he had a multiple personality disorder could it be he did not remember what happened that night, thus not remember raping her? Tyson did not have an easy childhood, and my theory is when he was in the ring he was a different personality. Another argument is how different he looked the night he fought Douglas, if you notice they did not interview him until later, maybe thats when he had cooled down and changed personalities he was a different personality that night.
Now I am not sure if a prison therapist would miss something like this or not? What I find amazing is all the people who have managed to be friends with Tyson and not said he was violent. Yet we see him snap in the ring with Holyfeld and do things that are pretty ridiculous.
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Mentalguy2k8
May 4, 2013, 5:55:10 AM5/4/13
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"savair" <jalex...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:36c08d50-0ea9-42ee...@googlegroups.com...
him the fighter he was. Like many people, I think he was probably an
awkward, shy but angry kid who, for various reasons, needed the "release"
that boxing gave him. I suppose it's lucky for everyone around him back then
that he *did* take up boxing because I get the impression he was always
ready to explode.
Maybe a lot of his later problems came as a result of his success; when he
was young, he looked like he just turned up to a fight, forgot his socks,
borrowed someone's shorts and gloves, knocked the guy out and went home
again to watch some boxing DVDs. But I suspect he later became surrounded by
the usual low-lifes (including Don King) who got into his head, kept telling
him "hey, you're Mike Tyson, you can do and have anything you want". He
obviously had issues with depression as well, and it must have been very
intense and confusing for someone with his poor social skills to deal with
everything. He strikes me as a simple guy, I don't mean retarded but just a
guy who never expected much from life. To suddenly have everything given to
him, millions of dollars, people treating him like a God and plenty of
hangers-on who he couldn't say no to (and who introduced him to drink and
drugs???), must have messed his head up. I don't think he ever really
understood what was expected of him, at press conferences for example. I
think he just wanted to go to the arena, fight and leave again and be left
alone.
And then I suppose later, once he'd started to deal with all these issues,
the realisation that it wasn't going to last must have started messing him
up. I'll never forget the way he looked in the dressing room before the
Lennox fight, there was something in his eyes and I recall saying "he's
already lost this fight". In my opinion, that's when he gave up on boxing.
In all, I think he started off as a quiet, generally respectful guy who
needed to hurt people to make up for his early years and found a way to do
it. I think that's the real Tyson, but I think he's got the anger out of his
system now. Along the way, he got overawed by boxing and the people around
him and tried acting up to what people expected, and thought, of him. I
don't know about his finances but I would bet that he got ripped off by most
people around him because he was too eager to please everyone. I think he
was extremely uncomfortable with the public side of his career. I wonder how
different things might have been if D'Amato had been around for the
"troubled" years?
sugarl...@gmail.com
May 4, 2013, 1:01:39 PM5/4/13
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On Saturday, May 4, 2013 5:55:10 AM UTC-4, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
> "savair" <jalex...@aol.com> wrote in message news:36c08d50-0ea9-42ee...@googlegroups.com... Here is my reasoning for the question and you all tell me if you agree or disagree. There are a lot of people who are friends with Mike Tyson who I am kind of surprised are friends with him, for example I heard Roseanne Barr was good friends with him. Considering she is had several abusive relationships this is kind of surprising. Some people meet Tyson and say he is gentle as a mouse yet others would not go near him. How gentle was he the night he bit Holyfelds ear off though? Then there is the rape conviction, if he had a multiple personality disorder could it be he did not remember what happened that night, thus not remember raping her? Tyson did not have an easy childhood, and my theory is when he was in the ring he was a different personality. Another argument is how different he looked the night he fought Douglas, if you notice they did not interview him until later, maybe thats when he had cooled down and changed personalities he was a different personality that night. Now I am not sure if a prison therapist would miss something like this or not? What I find amazing is all the people who have managed to be friends with Tyson and not said he was violent. Yet we see him snap in the ring with Holyfeld and do things that are pretty ridiculous. I think Tyson channelled his childhood issues into his boxing, which made him the fighter he was. Like many people, I think he was probably an awkward, shy but angry kid who, for various reasons, needed the "release" that boxing gave him. I suppose it's lucky for everyone around him back then that he *did* take up boxing because I get the impression he was always ready to explode. Maybe a lot of his later problems came as a result of his success; when he was young, he looked like he just turned up to a fight, forgot his socks, borrowed someone's shorts and gloves, knocked the guy out and went home again to watch some boxing DVDs. But I suspect he later became surrounded by the usual low-lifes (including Don King) who got into his head, kept telling him "hey, you're Mike Tyson, you can do and have anything you want". He obviously had issues with depression as well, and it must have been very intense and confusing for someone with his poor social skills to deal with everything. He strikes me as a simple guy, I don't mean retarded but just a guy who never expected much from life. To suddenly have everything given to him, millions of dollars, people treating him like a God and plenty of hangers-on who he couldn't say no to (and who introduced him to drink and drugs???), must have messed his head up. I don't think he ever really understood what was expected of him, at press conferences for example. I think he just wanted to go to the arena, fight and leave again and be left alone. And then I suppose later, once he'd started to deal with all these issues, the realisation that it wasn't going to last must have started messing him up. I'll never forget the way he looked in the dressing room before the Lennox fight, there was something in his eyes and I recall saying "he's already lost this fight". In my opinion, that's when he gave up on boxing. In all, I think he started off as a quiet, generally respectful guy who needed to hurt people to make up for his early years and found a way to do it. I think that's the real Tyson, but I think he's got the anger out of his system now. Along the way, he got overawed by boxing and the people around him and tried acting up to what people expected, and thought, of him. I don't know about his finances but I would bet that he got ripped off by most people around him because he was too eager to please everyone. I think he was extremely uncomfortable with the public side of his career. I wonder how different things might have been if D'Amato had been around for the "troubled" years?
Both posts reflect a mood swing scenario, genuine MPD being the most uncommon psychologic/psychiatric diagnosis in the book
> "savair" <jalex...@aol.com> wrote in message news:36c08d50-0ea9-42ee...@googlegroups.com... Here is my reasoning for the question and you all tell me if you agree or disagree. There are a lot of people who are friends with Mike Tyson who I am kind of surprised are friends with him, for example I heard Roseanne Barr was good friends with him. Considering she is had several abusive relationships this is kind of surprising. Some people meet Tyson and say he is gentle as a mouse yet others would not go near him. How gentle was he the night he bit Holyfelds ear off though? Then there is the rape conviction, if he had a multiple personality disorder could it be he did not remember what happened that night, thus not remember raping her? Tyson did not have an easy childhood, and my theory is when he was in the ring he was a different personality. Another argument is how different he looked the night he fought Douglas, if you notice they did not interview him until later, maybe thats when he had cooled down and changed personalities he was a different personality that night. Now I am not sure if a prison therapist would miss something like this or not? What I find amazing is all the people who have managed to be friends with Tyson and not said he was violent. Yet we see him snap in the ring with Holyfeld and do things that are pretty ridiculous. I think Tyson channelled his childhood issues into his boxing, which made him the fighter he was. Like many people, I think he was probably an awkward, shy but angry kid who, for various reasons, needed the "release" that boxing gave him. I suppose it's lucky for everyone around him back then that he *did* take up boxing because I get the impression he was always ready to explode. Maybe a lot of his later problems came as a result of his success; when he was young, he looked like he just turned up to a fight, forgot his socks, borrowed someone's shorts and gloves, knocked the guy out and went home again to watch some boxing DVDs. But I suspect he later became surrounded by the usual low-lifes (including Don King) who got into his head, kept telling him "hey, you're Mike Tyson, you can do and have anything you want". He obviously had issues with depression as well, and it must have been very intense and confusing for someone with his poor social skills to deal with everything. He strikes me as a simple guy, I don't mean retarded but just a guy who never expected much from life. To suddenly have everything given to him, millions of dollars, people treating him like a God and plenty of hangers-on who he couldn't say no to (and who introduced him to drink and drugs???), must have messed his head up. I don't think he ever really understood what was expected of him, at press conferences for example. I think he just wanted to go to the arena, fight and leave again and be left alone. And then I suppose later, once he'd started to deal with all these issues, the realisation that it wasn't going to last must have started messing him up. I'll never forget the way he looked in the dressing room before the Lennox fight, there was something in his eyes and I recall saying "he's already lost this fight". In my opinion, that's when he gave up on boxing. In all, I think he started off as a quiet, generally respectful guy who needed to hurt people to make up for his early years and found a way to do it. I think that's the real Tyson, but I think he's got the anger out of his system now. Along the way, he got overawed by boxing and the people around him and tried acting up to what people expected, and thought, of him. I don't know about his finances but I would bet that he got ripped off by most people around him because he was too eager to please everyone. I think he was extremely uncomfortable with the public side of his career. I wonder how different things might have been if D'Amato had been around for the "troubled" years?
Edmund
May 4, 2013, 2:26:21 PM5/4/13
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wouldn't give up my day job just yet.
Edmund
Emanuel Berg
May 10, 2013, 9:31:09 PM5/10/13
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Great post by Mentalguy2k8, and I agree. About Tyson's jail days,
those were probably not bad for him at all.
savair: You can be affectionate sometimes, and cruel sometimes, and
that's not necessarily some fancy personality split. The ear thing was
a result of frustration: the fight didn't go his way and he couldn't
handle it. The rape thing: as Mentalguy said, he couldn't handle fame,
money, or women, and he sure had his fair share. I'm not making
excuses; only, for a guy like Tyson - with his background, low
self-esteem, barely-controlled aggression, and too-early fame - I
think we could have played the tape a hundred times, and the outcome
would still be more or less the same. He is the Michael Jackson of
boxing.
--
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those were probably not bad for him at all.
savair: You can be affectionate sometimes, and cruel sometimes, and
that's not necessarily some fancy personality split. The ear thing was
a result of frustration: the fight didn't go his way and he couldn't
handle it. The rape thing: as Mentalguy said, he couldn't handle fame,
money, or women, and he sure had his fair share. I'm not making
excuses; only, for a guy like Tyson - with his background, low
self-esteem, barely-controlled aggression, and too-early fame - I
think we could have played the tape a hundred times, and the outcome
would still be more or less the same. He is the Michael Jackson of
boxing.
--
Emanuel Berg - programmer (hire me! CV below)
Norge, søker jobb: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/brev_no.pdf
computer projects: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
internet activity: http://home.student.uu.se/embe8573
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