Jewish Who's Who Of Boxing
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population (6 billion). Choose any field of human endeavor (including
athletics), and you will find that Jews have disproprotionately excelled in it.
Jews are so few in number, yet so great in ability. With that said, I give to
you:
BARNEY AARON - Premodern English great known as "the star of The East".
1800-1850.
YOUNG BARNEY AARON - 1836-1907. Son of Barney Aaron (surprise) Lightweight
champion of US in 1857.
GEORGE ABRAMS - Middleweight contender (1937-1948). Lost 15 round title fight
to Zale in 1941. Beat Teddy Yarosz, Billy Soose 3 times (once while Soose held
New York version of middle title in 1941), Lou Brouillard and other top
middleweights. 48W, 3D, 10L
RAY ARCEL - The trainer of great fighters. Trained 20 world champs including,
Benny Leonard, Roberto Duran and Ezzard Charles. Elected to the New York Jewish
Sports Hall of Fame in 1999. One of 2 trainers to be elected to the Boxing Hall
of Fame.
SALOMO AROUCH - Greek Jew who was middle-weight champion of the Balkans before
WWII. He was deported to Auschwitz and forced to box in staged fights for the
camp guards. His story is depicted in the film "Triumph of the Spirit",
starring Willem Dafoe.
BOB ARUM - Major boxing promoter who is still very active. One of the two most
important promoters in the game today.
MONTE ATTELL - Abe Attell's brother. World Bantamweight champ 1909. KO'd
Frankie Neil in Colma, California. Lost title in 1910 to Frankie Conley. While
this title was not universally recognized, it was the only time two brothers
held world titles. Very little remains of his overall record. One of three
fighting Attell brothers (Cesar was the third).
ABE ATTELL - Born in San Francisco in 1884. He learned to fight growing up in
an Irish neighborhood. He was featherweight champ for eight years (1901-08).
Overall record was 171-9.
BUDDY BAER - Brother of Max Baer. Lost heavyweight title fight to Joe Louis.
Giant in size, he appeared in over a dozen films including "Quo Vadis".
MAX BAER - Heavyweight champion 1934-35. Fought with a Star of David on his
shorts. Father of Max Baer, Jr. who played "Jethro" on "Beverly Hillbillies".
PHIL BAKER - (1930-1936) Lightweight. Overall record, 92W(41KO), 1D, 23 ND.
SOLDIER BARTFIELD - Born Jacob Bartfeld. Tough Austrian born welterweight
(1912-1925). Fought the best and fought them often, KO Brennan, Kid Graves, Al
McCoy, Jack Britton, Mike O'Dowd, Mike Gibbons, Ted 'Kid' Lewis, Harry Greb,
Benny Leonard, Italian Joe Gans (with whom he had a famous rivalry), Mickey
Walker, and others. Mostly no decisions. 32W(18KO), 8D, 18L, 111ND.
Benny Bass - Featherweight champion, 1927-1928. Won the title vacated by Louis
Kaplan. Fought 197 fights, won 140, 59 by KO.
WILLIE BEECHER - (1909-1917) Lightweight, Overall record 10W(10KO), 3D, 1L 51ND
FABRICE BENICHOU - Spanish bantam/featherweight. (1984-1998). European
Bantamweight champ (1988), IBF Jr. Featherweight champ (1989-1990), European
Featherweight champ (1991-1992). Record, 45W(23KO), 2D, 17L.
JACKIE BERG - Known as Jackie "Kid" Berg. Born Judah Bergman in London. Jr.
Welterweight Champ, 1931. As a marketing ploy, he would wear a tallis (prayer
shawl) into the ring. Madison Square Garden favorite. Lifetime 157-26-9. SAM
BERGER - Won Olympic gold medal for USA as a boxing heavyweight in 1904.
JOE BERNSTEIN - Popular early Jewish featherweight in New York. Fought the
likes of Young Griffo , George Dixon (2),Solly Smith (KO'd Smith in 1899), Dave
Sullivan (3 20-25 round draws), Terry McGovern (3), Young Corbett (2), all of
whom were champions. His overall record is difficult to compile.
JACK BERNSTEIN - (1899-1945). Jr. Lightweight champ, 1923. Fought from 1914 to
1931. 65W, 7D, 23L, 12ND.
HARRY BLITMAN - Featherweight (1926-1930). 52W(23KO), 2D, 4L, 5ND
PHIL BLOOM - English born lightweight (1912-1923). Fought 175 bouts, 99 of
which were No Decision. Overall record 43W(15KO), 11D, 22L, 99ND.
NATHAN BOR - Won Olympic bronze medal for USA as lightweight in 1932.
AARON BRAUNSTEIN - Current major boxing promoter who puts on major fights in
Madison Square Garden and other venues. His daughter is the well-known actress
Natasha Lyonne.
BELASCO BROTHERS - For a period of time in the early to mid 18th century, a
fair number of Jews successfully engaged as pugilists in Britain. They included
the Belasco brothers, Abraham, Israel, Samuel John, as well as, Isaac Bittoon,
Elisha Crabbe, Abraham DeCosta, Bernard Levy and others.
BUDINI BROWN - Bundini Brown was famous mostly for being Muhammed Ali's close
friend, cheerleader, jester, and cornerman. He also had a few bit parts in
movies, including the role of a henchman in the blaxploitation classic,
"Shaft". In the book, "King of the World: Muhammed Ali and the Rise of an
American Hero" by David Remnick, a NY Times bestseller about Ali's early years,
it is noted that Bundini is a convert to Judaism and was married to a woman
named Rhoda Palestine. He also referred to G-d as Shorty. It doesn't say
whether he learned to use this term in his conversion class.
NEWSBOY BROWN - Born Dave Montrose. Held controversial flyweight title when he
defeated Johnny McCoy in L.A. in 1928. Only recignized in California. Lost it
to Johnny Hill in 1929. Brown was undoubtedly one of the best small fighters of
his day. He met four (4) Hall of Famers six times. Genera (2W), La Barba (2D),
'Panama' Al Brown (1W), Chalky Wright (1W). In addition he beat flyweight great
Midget Wolgast, and met and beat the best of his age. Had one shot for
undisputed world title, losing to Izzy Schwartz, whom he had previously beaten.
NATI BROWN - Heavyweight (1928-1949). 56W(21KO), 9D, 17L, 2ND.
MUSHY CALLAHAN - A.K.A. Mushy Sheer. Jr. Welterweight champ, 1926-1930. Lost
title to Jack 'Kid' Berg. 43W, 4D, 12L, 1 ND.
JOE CHOYNISKI - One of the great fighters of the late 19th, early 20th C.
Weighed 160 -170 (employed as a taffy-puller), but mostly fought much bigger
heavyweights. Fought Corbett 3 times, apparand the Choynskis (San Franciscans).
KO'd Jack Johnson at the beginning of Johnson's career.
ROBERT COHEN - Bantamweight champion, 1954-1955. Algerian Jew. Reminiscent of
the Hemingway character of same name. He was in a terrible auto accident and
never recovered his form.
LEACH CROSS - His real name was Dr. Louis C. Wallach. Top lightweight
(1906-1916, 1921). 43W(25KO), 2D, 14L, 95ND. Outside of boxing he practiced
dentistry in Hollywood, CA.
AL 'BUMMY" DAVIS - Rough tough middleweight boxer from New York, circa 1948-9.
Davis was shot to death while coming to the defense of his friendly barkeep
during an armed robbery. He is reputed the have broken one robber's jaw before
taking the fatal shot. A tough cookie to say the least. Born Albert Davidoff.
HERMAN DAVIS - Fought as "Jackie Davis", proudly wore the Star of David on his
trunks. Raised in Cleveland's Jewish Orphans Home. Professional 1928-34. Fought
Barney Ross for Chicago Golden Gloves Title in '27. Ranked in top 10 of Ring
Magazine of '32 and '33 in Welter Weight Division, had over 150 pro fights.
Professional referee 1934 to '68 (Sugar Ray Robinson, Jake La Mota, Ezzard
Charles and Jimmy Bevins, more); boxing columnist 1955-1968, Cleveland News and
Press. Died in ring, December 1968 (while reffing a charity event). Elected to
Cleveland, Ohio Sports HOF in '86.
DAVEY DAY - Lightweight contender (1930s). 59W(29KO), 4D, 10L
HAROLD DEVINE - Won Olympic bronze medal for USA as featherwight in 1928.
HARRY DUBLINSKY - (1926-1935) Lightweight. Overall record 73W(15KO), 13D, 30L,
5ND. Beat Tony Canzoneri in 1934.
LEW FELDMAN - Scottish Jew. Some sources identify him as American, unless of
course there are two Lew Feldmans. Fought as lightweight (1928-1941). 182
fights overall. 115W(8KO), 13D, 54L.
JACKIE FIELDS - Born Jacob Finkelstein. World Welterweight champion (1929-1930,
1932-1933) Also, won Olympic gold metal as featherweight in 1924 Olympics.
Overall record, 71W(28KO), 2D, 9L, 3ND
NATHANIEL FLEISCHER - Nat was the founder of "Ring Magazine", the bible of
boxing. Founded in the 1920's, its ranking of boxers was very influential. He
also published the Boxing Encyclopedia. He fought for a cleaner game and more
physical protections for boxers. Died in 1972.
AL FOREMAN - English lightweight (1920-1933), ranked in 30s. Record 125W(80KO),
10D, 10L.
BERNIE FRIEDKIN - Known as "Schoolboy". Highly regarded feather/lightweight
(1935-1943). Came from Brownsville section of Brooklynlike "Bummy" Davis, who
he lost to in 1938. Fought draws against Kid Chocolate. Mike Belloise (2) and
Petey Scalzo. Overall record, 49W(10KO), 15D, 10L.
SAILOR FRIEDMAN - (1916-1924). Lightweight. Overall record, 37W(22KO), 4D, 3L,
38ND. Fits in with Soldier Bartfield and Corporal Izzy Schwartz.
DANNU FRUSH - Featherweight, 1917-1926. Overall record 60W(24KO), 10L, 1D, 17ND
GYORGY GEDO - Hungarian. Winner of the Gold medal in the Light Flyweight
divison at the 1972 Olympics.
LOU GEVINSON - Featherweight out of Washington, D.C. Winner of 5 consecutive
Golden Glove titles. Named the alternate featherweight on 1936 Olympic team,
but refused to accompany the team to Berlin as a "matter of principle,". Fought
3 world champs in a short professional career, losing close fights each time,
once by split decision.
CHARLIE GOLDMAN - Bantamweight (1904-1914. Outstanding fighter of the first
decade of the 20thC. Overall record: 36W(20KO), 1D, 6l, 84ND.
RUBY GOLDSTEIN - Famed referee who was born on the lower East Side. He was a
pro boxer in the '20's, nicknamed "the Jewel of the Ghetto". Started referring
while in the Army during WWII. Referred many impt. fights incl. Louis/Walcott,
Zale/Graziano. Columnist for "Ring". Died in '84.
ABE GOLDSTEIN - Bantamweight champion, 1924-1925. 85W, 5D, 14L, 26ND
HAROLD GREEN - (1942-1953) Middleweight. Beat Rocky Graziano twice in 1944, and
KO'ed Joey Giardello in 1950. Overall record, 70W(23KO), 3D, 14L.
ALPHONSE HALIMI - World bantamweight champ (1957-1959). Algerian Jew like
Robert Cohen. Also twice won European bantam title. 40W(21KO), 1D, 8L WILLIE
HARMON - Welterweight contender. (1920s). Overall record, 50W(24KO), 6D, 15L,
15ND. Worked as bouncer/greeter in Red Hook bar in 40s. Thought he was part
owner.
HARRY HARRIS- First modern Jewish bantamweight champ. Know as the "human
scissors" won the title in 1901, then fought as featherwight. 40W, 7D, 2L, 5ND.
MARVIN HART - (1876-1931) Fern Creek, Kentucky. Heavyweight champion 1905.
MONTGOMERY HERSCOVITZ - AKA Moe Herscovitch. Won Olympic bronze medal for
Canada as middleweight in 1920.
JOE HERTZBERG - Deaf mute lightweight, fought under the name "Dummy Jordan."
Number one contender for several years during the 1910's. Hometown: Chicago,
Illinois.
WALDEMAR HOLDBERG - Danish welterweight (1883-1927). Competed in 1908 Olympics
as a lightweight. Won World Welterweight title in 1914, then lost it same month
on a 6th round disqualification. 31W, 4D, 23L.
ABE HOLLANDERSKY - Known as "Newsboy". Possibly most prolific fighter of all
time. Reputed to have fought some 1,309 bouts.
WILLIE JACKSON - Real name was Oscar Tobler. Top feather/lightweight
(1913-1922). Fought Hall of Famer Johnny Dundee 11 times 2W(1KO), 4D, 5ND.
Overall record 25W(17KO), 8D, 9L, 115ND.
JIMMY JACOBS - Manager and film historian. Outstanding amateur athlete and six
time natl. handball champ.With Bill Cayton assembled a major collection of old
fight films starting in the early '60's--his company, Big Fights, produced 1000
boxing films. Managed Wilfred Benitz, Edwin Rosario, Mike Tyson. Died in '88.
GARY JACOBS - Scottish welterweight (1985-1997). European Welterweight champ
(1993-1994), Great Britain welterweight champ (1992), Commonwealth (1988-1989).
Overall record, 45W(26KO), 8L.
MIKE JACOBS - Major boxing promoter of the '20's and '30's. Began as a ticket
scalper. Signed Joe Louis to an exclusive contract in '35. Put on major fights
in the Garden. Died in '53.
BEN JEBY - (Morris Jebaltowski) Held the New York version of the middleweight
title from 1932 to 1933. 54W(22KO), 4D, 14L, 1NC
ROBERT KAHN - Who is he? He is the real-life model for Robert Cohn, the
Princeton boxing champion in Hemingway's "The Sun Also Rises". In the book,
Cohn is criticized for fighting for "the wrong reason". The right reason being
the joy of athletic competition or some other mystical Hemingway macho stuff.
The real Robert Cohn never made it to Paris and, in later years, hardly anyone
remembered him from his Princeton days. He was a quiet young man who didn't
want to have to take an insult from anyone. Therefore, he studied boxing and
became Princeton middleweight champ in the 1920's. He apparently never had a
college fight outside the gym.
LOUIS "KID" KAPLAN - Featherweight champion from 1925- 1927, when he outgrew
the class and gave up his title. 102W, 10D, 13L, 9ND.
PHIL KAPLAN - Known as "K.O.".(1919-1929) Middleweight. Overall record, 69W
(34K), 1D, 14L, 11ND.
JULIE JULIUS JOGON - (1937-1949 ) Very respectable lightweight. Overall record
to 1949, 74W(34KO), 15D, 36L.
DANNY KRAMER - Featherweight contender, 1919-1928. 52W(25KO), 22L, 3D, 13ND.
Lost to Louis (Kid) Kaplan for vacant Featherweight title in 1925.
SOLLY KRIEGER - NBA Middleweight Champion 1938-1939. Fighting 111 fights he had
a higher percentage of KOs (53/111) than every middleweight champion before him
except Stanley Ketchell and Les Darcy. Only Mickey Walker (60) and Lou
Brouillard (66) had more KOs.
HERB KRONOWITZ - Middleweight (1941-1950). 54W(9KO), 5D, 24L. In Coast Guard in
WWII. Two brothers served overseas. His younger brother was killed in Battle of
Bulge.
ART LASKY - Heavyweight (1930-1939). Overall record 42W(34KO), 4D, 7L, 5ND.
BENNY LEONARD - Great Lightweight champ (1917-1925). Hall of Fame. Lost 3
fights first 3 years, then was undefeated over the next 11 years except for a
disqualification loss to Jack Britton for Welterweight title in 1922. Leonard
was beating Britton when he inexplicably fouled him in the 13th round. After
his retirement in 1925 he returned to the ring in 1931 and won 18 out of his
next 19 fights (1 draw) until he was knocked out by Jimmy McLarnin October 7,
1932. Overall record, 89W (71KO), 1D, 5L, 115ND.
ARTIE LEVINE - Middleweight (1941-1949). Most famous fight was with Sugar Ray
Robinson (11/6/46) in which he almost KO'ed Robinson in the 5th round. A long
count might have saved Robinson. Robinson managed to rebound and knock out
Levine in the 10th round, but he never could remember the fight after the 5th
round. It has been claimed that Robinson said no one ever hit him harder than
Levine did in the 5th round of that fight. Levine never got a title shot. His
overall record was 50W(36KO), 6D, 15L.
BATTLING LEVINSKY - One of the few guys known mostly known just by his
nickname. He was light heavyweight champion between 1917 and 1925. Born Barney
Lebrowitz. Levinsky, who originally fought under the name Williams, is believed
to have fought over 400 professional fights, although his early years'
engagements are not recorded. The guy loved to fight.
KING LEVINSKY - Heavyweight (1928-1939). 79W(41KO), 7D, 33L. During his career
he beat the likes of Jimmy Slattery, Tommy Loughran, Primo Carnera, Jack
Sharkey, Leo Lomski.
TED LEWIS - Known as Ted "Kid" Lewis. World Welterweight Champ, 1915-16;
1917-1919. Born Gershon Mendelhoff in England. Tough, hard-hitting fighter from
London's East End. Held many British and European titles. Lifetime: 170-30-14.
HARRY LEWIS - Born Henry Besterman. 1886-1956. Claimant to Welterweight title
in 1908, after KO'ing Frank Mantell and Honey Melody. One of the best
welterweights of his day. 80W, 11D, 16L, 56ND.
SAMMY LUFTSPRING - Canadian amateur welterweight champion, 1930's. Was supposed
to represent Canada at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. However, he joined the boycott
of the games by Jewish (and some other athletes). Mr. Luftspring has been
active in the Jewish sports community and has written his autobiography.
JILL MATTHEWS - Billed as Jill "The Zion Lion" Matthews. One of the top female
professional fighters around today. IFBA and IWBF Junior Flyweight Champ.
AL MCCOY - (Alexander Rudolph). Middleweight champion 1914-1917. McCoy won the
world championship when he defeated George Chip, then champion, who was
standing in for a fight scheduled with his brother Joe Chip. He Ko'd George
Chip in the first round. He was thereafter derogatorily referred to as the
"cheese champion" for being a light hitter who lucked into the championship,
and for fighting many No Decision bouts (like most fighters of the day).
Actually, he may have fought as many as 137 fights before losing for the first
time in 1917 in a championship fight with Mike O'Dowd. Not too shabby, cheesy
or no.
DANIEL MENDOZA - Sephardic Jew who became a famous boxing champion of England
in the 18th Century. He did for English Jews what Jackie Robinson did for
African-Americans two centuries later. Mendoza gave them pride in a champion
who represented his people. Mendoza is credited with introducing "scientific
boxing" to the sport (called, believe it or not, "the Jewish School of Boxing",
during this period). A Mendoza descendant was actor Peter Sellers. Sellers'
mother, whose name was Mendoza, was Jewish. Sellers's son wrote that Peter was
somewhat fascinated by his ancestor and by the "yellowing" prints of the
champion that had been passed down in the Mendoza family. Sellers and his
ancestor, his son wrote, bore a striking physical resemblance to one and other.
There is a short biography of Mendoza on the following link. Mendoza
M. JACOB MICHAELSEN - Won Olympic bronze medal for Denmark as heavyweight in
1928.
RAY MILLER - Lightweight contender (1924-1933). Of note though, he was only man
to ever knock out Jimmy McLarnin, who made an issue out of knocking out Jewish
fighters. Miller was never himself KO'ed in 111 fights. Overall record,
77W(31KO), 4D, 25L.
PEDRO MONTANEZ - Puerto Rican Jew. Outstanding lightweight. (1931-1940) Between
1932 and his loss to Lou Ambers (who he'd previously beaten) in September of
1937; Montanez had 57 wins and 4 draws. Overall record 87W(51KO), 5D, 7L.
YOUNG MONTREAL - Born Morris Billinghoff)Claimant to American Flyweight title,
1919, then competed as a bantamweight. Fought from 1916 to 1929. 56W, 6D, 19L,
22ND.
SAM MOSBERG - Won Olympic gold medal for USA as lightweight in 1920.
JOHNNY MURRAY - Born Herman Sloves 1899-1957. Featherweight. Nickname "The
Bronx bone-crusher". Overall record, 1916-1921, 42W(38KO), 4L, 66ND. Fought at
least 87 fights before losing his first bout in 1920. After retiring was active
in Democratic party politics in the Bronx.
ARTIE O' LEARY - (Arthur Lieberman). Claimant to Junior lightweight title
(1917-1919).
BOB OLIN - Light-heavyweight champion from 1934-1935. Owned a restaurant for a
short while.
YOUNG OTTO - Born Arthur Suskind. Very active lightweight (1903-1923). Fought
196 recorded fights. 93W(70KO), 4D, 10L, 93ND. After his retirement was an
instructor, judge and referee for New York State Athletic Commission.
BOB PASTOR - Heavyweight (1935-1942). Fought Louis for title in 1939, lost by
KO in 11. Previously had lost 10 round decision to Louis. Clearly a top
contender prior to 1942. 53W (17KO), 5D, 7L. Note: This fighter may be
half-Jewish, but we don't have more information. If you know, contact us. which
side.
DAVEY PEARL - Referee. Pearl worked over 3,000 bouts. He was based in Las Vegas
and worked such famous matches at Marvin Hagler/Tommy Hearns and Ali/Leon
Spinks. He is in the boxing hall of fame.
VICTOR PEREZ - Known as Victor(Young) Perez. World Flyweight champ (1931-1932)
Tunisian Jew. Believed to have died in German prison camp in 1942. 89W(26KO),
16D, 26L.
AUGIE RATNER - Top ranked middleweght boxer in l920's.
DAVE ROSENBERG - World Middleweight claimant, held New York Title for awhile in
1922 until losing it to O'Dowd on a disqualification in the 8th round. Never
KO'd in 57 or 65 fights, depending on which record you trust.
CHARLEY PHIL ROSENBERG - Another bantamweight champ, 1925-1927 (real name
Charles Green). Won the title from the guy who defeated Abe Goldstein.
Apparently started out by taking a fight for a friend named Rosenberg.
Continued to use the name. Lost title by suspension for making an unauthorized
agreement with Bushy Graham.
DANA ROSENBLATT - Rosenblatt is the best Jewish boxer fighting today. Born in
Malden, Massachusetts, he has held several middleweight and super middleweight
titles. Rather than summarize his career and 'how perfect' he is as a 'role
model'--we urge you to visit the following links. He is 37-1 with 23 knockouts
as of August, 2001. However, given the nature of boxing, he probably will never
hold a unified crown, even if (a 'big' if) he had the talent to beat everyone
in his class.
MAXIE ROSENBLOOM - Known as "Slapsie Maxie". Light Heavyweight champion from
1930-34. Later appeared as comic actor in Hollywood "B" movies. Maxie fought
289 professional fights of which he won 210. That makes him the winningest
lightheavy ever.
JOHNNY ROSNER - Johnny (Young) Rosner. Claimant to American Flyweight title,
1917, by KO over Young Zulu Kid. Lost claim in 1919 against Young Montreal.
BARNEY ROSS - World lightweight champ from '33-35; welterweight '34;'35-38.
Grew up in an Orthodox home in Chicago, and his father opposed him going into
the ring--wanted him to be a Hebrew teacher. After his father's death, Ross
became the family's support. He was a war hero and becamed addicted to morphine
for his wounds. Sucessful fight back from addiction was made into the movie
"Monkey On My Back". Born Barnet Rashofsky.
MIKE ROSSMAN - Won WBA Light Heavyweight title in 1978 and wore a Star of David
on his trunks. Rossman's mother was 'probably' Jewish. Different reports have
surfaced over the years. We will checking with our boxing mavens and get the
definitive answer. (Updated: 2/02).
SHAMIL SABYROV - Won Olympic gold medal for USSR as light-flyweight in 1980.
DMITRIY SALITA - Salita, a lightweight, has emerged as one of the best Jewish
prospects in American boxing in a long time. Salita's career is covered very
well in the linked piece from the April 15, 2002 issue of "New York Magazine'.
A few highlights: He is a 20 year old emigre from Odessa, Russia. He won the
2001 NYC "Golden Gloves" in his division. Salita is 6-0 since turning
professional, with five knockouts. Salita is an Orthodox Jew and does not fight
on the Sabbath. Quoting the linked piece, "You won't, however, find Salita in
the ring on a Friday night: He's Orthodox and hangs with the Lubavitcher
Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn. That means he doesn't fight from Friday night till
dusk on Saturday. It's in his contract. 'If anyone wants a whupping from me,'
says Salita, 'they got to wait until after sundown.'"
DUTCH SAM - (Samuel Elias) 1775-1816. International Boxing Hall of Fame. The
second great Jewish fighter, after Mendoza, though in his weight class probably
more dominant (135pounds). He fought from 1801-1810, was known (I kid you not)
as a 'legendary' puncher, and is reputed to have invented the uppercut. Came
from same town as two other Hall of Fame Jewish fighters from England, Jackie
'Kid' Berg and Ted 'Kid' Lewis.
ALBERT SCHNEIDER - Won Olympic gold medal for Canada as welterweight in 1920.
CPL IZZY SCHWARTZ - Flyweight Champion 1927-1929.
ERIC SEELIG - German middleweight (1931-1940) Record through 1938, 43W, 3D, 5L.
KO'ed Mickey Walker in Walker's last fight. Also beat Ken Overlin.
MAXIE SHAPIRO - Lightweight contender (1938-1948). Never had a title shot. Beat
NBA titleholders Jackie Callura (1W), Phil Terranova (1W,1L) and Sol Bartolo
(3W,1D,2L), and World Light champ Bob Montgomery (1W,1L). Overall record
87W(26KO), 6D, 30L.
AL SINGER - (1909-1961) Lightweight champ 1930. KO'd Sammy Mandell (not Jewish)
in first round for title, then lost the title when Tony Canzoneri KO'd Singer
in 1st round later that year. 60W, 2D, 8L.
BARNEY SNYDER - Born Barney Schneider, he was the National Amateur Flyweght
Champion of the United States in 1913. Barney was born on March 4, 1892 in
London, England and died in February l987 in Boston.
JACK SOLOMONS - The most impt. promoter in the history of British boxing. His
family were fish marketers, he changed jobs and ended up promoting 26 title
fights and brought scores of American boxers to Britain. His heyday was the
40's-60's, but was working until he died in 1979.
ALLIE STOLTZ - Lightweight contender (1937-1946) Lost controversial title fight
with Sammy Angott on May 15, 1942. Split decision, referee gave Stolz 11 of 15
rounds. To most observers Stolz won the fight. 73W, 2D, 10L.
LEW TENDLER - Hall of Famer, who unfortunately had to beat Benny Leonard for
the World Light title, and didn't quite make it. Had Leonard dazed and on the
ropes (figuratively speaking), but Benny outsmarted him (1923). Then barely
lost 15 round decision for World Welterweight title to a heavier Mickey Walker
in 1924. Considered by some the best southpaw fighter of his day in any
division.
SID TERRIS - Outstanding amateur who went on to be a lightweight contender
(1922-1931). In 1925 beat Jimmy Goodrich, Rocky Kansas, Johnny Dundee (2), Ace
Hudkins and Jack Bernstein (2). Overall record, 85W(12KO), 4D, 13L, 6ND.
BENNY VALGAR - Outstanding lightweight (1916-1929). Overall record 77W(19KO),
3D, 15L, 97ND (total of 191 fights).
JOEY VAROFF - Classy Lightweight (1939-1950) Overall record 55W(5KO), 7D, 5L.
MATT WELLS - (1886-1953). Held British Lightweight and British Empire titles.
Won British title from Freddie Welsh in 1911. British amateur champ from
1904-1907, turned professional at the relatively old age of 25.
CHARLEY WHITE - Hardhitting British lightweight (career 1906 to 1923, 1930).
Fought between 145 and 172 fights (depending on sources), 80W (51 KOs), 8D, 16L
(including KO in 1930 at age 39), 40 ND. Defeated for Lightweight title twice,
Freddie Welsh and Benny Leonard. Otherwise fought and beat many of the best of
his day.
BENNY YANGER - Lightweight (1899-1909) usually identified as Italian (Frank
Angone), but listed as Jewish in a very reputable source. KO'ed Abe Attell in
1902. Overall record 51W(25KO), 20D, 10L, 3ND
Mike Haught
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>MAX BAER - Heavyweight champion 1934-35. Fought with a Star of David on his
>shorts. Father of Max Baer, Jr. who played "Jethro" on "Beverly Hillbillies".
I believe it was Ray Arcel who was quoted. After seeing Max Baer, naked in the
shower, "He ain't Jewish."
-mwh
Miss Sharon Cobb
boxers.
Max Baer's brother fought Dempsey, among many others.
There is actually a book on Jewish boxers, and I can't remember the name, but I
am fairly sure you could find it n the web.
Sharon*yes I am Jewish"
Cobb
DarrinT68
>From: misssha...@aol.com (Miss Sharon Cobb)
>Date: 8/3/02 7:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20020803192604...@mb-fp.aol.com>
What's cooking!? TIM BOXER (I kid you not!ehe) is one of the foremost Jewish
authors on Jewish celebrities & notables.
I believe you may be alluding to one of his books. Incidentally, BAER was
included on my list. Please go back and read it! -D, NYC "The first American
scientist ever awarded the Nobel prize was Jewish - ALBERT ABRAHAM MICHAELSON"
DarrinT68
>Date: 8/3/02 6:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <%ZY29.33021$15.1...@www.newsranger.com>
LOL! As a side note, there have been many East European Jews who weren't
circumcised until they migrated to America. While circumcision is the defining
ritual for a Jew, occurring on the eighth day of life, over 60% of newborns
(regardless of ethnicity) are circumcised each & every year in America. Jews
imbued the world with Kosher & circumcision. They eventually became adopted by
other cultures, due to health and hygienic reasons. In the end, circumcision is
still the safest & most commonly performed medical procedure, occurring more
frequently than tooth extraction. -D, NYC "The first sex symbol in movie
history was Jewish - THEDA BARA" (b. Goodman)
The Sanity Cruzer
news:20020803192604...@mb-fp.aol.com...
So, is your name pronounced: sha RON?
The Sanity Cruzer
news:20020803181834...@mb-ca.aol.com...
> Remember, Jews comprise a measly 1/4 of 1% (13 million) of the world's
> population (6 billion).
So what? I have zero interest in someone posting to RSB about what one race
or religion has or has not accomplished.
Robert Phillips
DarrinT68 wrote:
> "The first sex symbol in movie history was Jewish - THEDA BARA" (b. Goodman)
>
Hey, Theda Bara was a bona-fide hottie! And ironically, she was promoted as being
of exotic Arab heritage. I saw a couple of her silents some years ago, and oh
yeah, she was a looker. True beauty always shows, though changing fashions
sometimes obscure it.
And to change the subject a little bit, back to earlier discussions about whether
early death adds to a celebrity's fame, I stumbled across this one sentence on a
Theda Bara page just now: "She did not have the career-enhancing fate of an early
death which gave Rudolph Valentino, Marilyn Monroe, and James Dean such morbid
cachet." ( http://www.classicimages.com/1996/july/theda_2.html )
Pie
Keith Patrick
father, Yoel.
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> You left out Zab Judah (and for that matter, his brother, Daniel, and his
> father, Yoel.
And Sammy Davis, Jr.
Keith Patrick
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Big Dawg
Maybe he just thought he was. He did whip himself into shape and hand
a serious beating to Max Schmeling (TKO 10) in the name of Jewishness.
Probably his best fight. A good minute of the last round of that fight
is on the "Kings of the Ring" documentary. Maxie is just hitting
Schmeling with EVERYTHING! Hard to believe this is the same guy that
lost the HW title by goofing off for 15 rounds against Jimmy Braddock.
BD
D. Flynn
Chris Tsao
>Cobb
Is Cobb an Irish name?
--
Easy as Dell.
Ivan Weiss
DarrinT68 has trolled every other sports newsgroup on Usenet with this.
Please don't feed him. He is every bit as much a troll as the resular
suspects here are.
----
Ivan Weiss
Vashon WA http://www.baseball116.com
http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0219/nc-fullerton2.shtml
Marc Lichtenfeld
just in case you don't there is a terrific book called When Boxing was a
Jewish Sport. Anyone interested in Jewish Boxing history should pick it up.
One omission I can think of on the list below. Kenny "Bang Bang" Bogner.
Fought on the cards from Ice World in Totowa, NJ in the early days of ESPN.
"DarrinT68" <darr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Miss Sharon Cobb
I kept my ex husband's last name after our divorce.
Best,
Sharon
Miss Sharon Cobb
>Please don't feed him. He is every bit as much a troll as the resular
>suspects here are.
>----
>Ivan Weiss
Ivan,
My bad. I didn't know. I will, in the future, try not to feed the trolls.
Apologies,
Sharon
Big Dawg
> father, Yoel.
>
Savior, couldn't 'a done it with out Him yadda yadda" after his
fights. They are not Jews but Fundamentalist Christians. Daniel, Yoel
and Zab(akiah) are the names of Old Testament prophets, many Fundies
name themselves and their kids after them.
Cheers,
BD
DarrinT68
>Date: 8/4/02 10:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <aijd2q$no0$1...@feed.centurytel.net>
>
>
>"The Sanity Cruzer" <sanity...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:wC_29.11130$cI.8...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
>> "DarrinT68" <darr...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:20020803181834...@mb-ca.aol.com...
>> > Remember, Jews comprise a measly 1/4 of 1% (13 million) of the world's
>> > population (6 billion).>>
>> So what? I have zero interest in someone posting to RSB about what one
>race>> or religion has or has not accomplished.>
>DarrinT68 has trolled every other sports newsgroup on Usenet with this.
>Please don't feed him. He is every bit as much a troll as the resular
>suspects here are.>---->Ivan Weiss
Ivan, you obtained the above misinformation from where!? LOL! Once again,
whether Jew or Gentile, political correctness does not discriminate! You being
a perfect example! eh I do not automatically become a troll or bigot, simply
because you suffer from touchy-feely ideology. Remember, truth before
sensitivity shall set you free! There are plenty of Jews & Gentiles (on this
very forum) who responded in a self-assured manner, without KVETCHING like you!
eh -D, NYC "This English-Jewish athlete won gold and silver medals at the Paris
Olympics of 1924, and was the subject of the movie, "Chariots of Fire" - HAROLD
ABRAHAMS"
DarrinT68
>Message-id: <20020804152626...@mb-ch.aol.com>
>
>>DarrinT68 has trolled every other sports newsgroup on Usenet with this.
>>Please don't feed him. He is every bit as much a troll as the resular
>>suspects here are.
>Ivan,>My bad. I didn't know. I will, in the future, try not to feed the
trolls.>Apologies,>Sharon>>
Sharon, are you that impressionable!? I guess so! Sigh.. -D, NYC "Orville and
Wilbur Wright were influenced in their invention of the airplane by this
Austrian- Jew who had made two thousand controlled glider flights - OTTO
LILIENTHAL"
DarrinT68
>Date: 8/3/02 9:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <eG%29.37$7e5.19...@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>
>You left out Zab Judah (and for that matter, his brother, Daniel, and his
>father, Yoel.>
Firstly, thanks for the addition! eh Secondly, thanks for responding in a
civilized and self-assured manner. Keep 'em coming! eh -D, NYC "The discovery
of petroleum was made by a Jew - ABRAHAM SCHREINER"
Bob Sheehy
like Max Baer, has worn the Star of David on his trunks, and who is
every bit as Jewish as Max was.
The circumcision practices of Jews born in Eastern Europe are
fascinating. Baer was born in the Eastern European country of Nebraska.
Brian Davis
Was there ever a thought aboout someone making a movie about Randall's life and
career? i don't know much about his personal life, but his boxing and
kickboxing career is more than enough material for a movie.
In article <20020804152457...@mb-ch.aol.com>,
Brian Davis
Riverdale, IL
PETE ROSE BELONGS IN THE HALL OF FAME!
Miss Sharon Cobb
When we were married, I tried to get him to write about his life, but he really
wasn't too interested in doing so. But he might be now.
I agree, his professional career was remarkable; fought
Shavers,Mecardo,Dokes,Douglas,Norton...all in their prime before he had 80
ROUNDS..not fights..but rounds of experience. To the best of my knowledge, he
is also the only man to fight for both the heavyweight championship in both
boxing and kick-boxing.
As far as a movie about his life, he is pretty bitter about how things turned
out. He is still blaming everyone else for his woes, and sadly, that
overshadows what he did accomplish. He continues to be his own worst enemy.
Bottom line, a movie about a whiney warrior, obviously a contradiction in
terms, just wouldn't sell in this already self indulgent society where spoiled
athletes are pitied for losing millions because they were blowing it on blow
and hookers, while the rest of us can only dream of being given the opportunity
to earn millions, and thank G-d for the chance to do so.
I have never given up on him, though. I hope that some day he will accept
responsibility for his woes, make right what he did wrong, and then he really
would have a story that Hollywood would want.
Professionally speaking, the thing that irks me is he is known as a punching
bag because of losing 15 out of 15 rounds against Larry Holmes, yet you never
hear about how he retired Shavers, and managed to accomplish what he did with
absolutely no amateur career. For his sake, I wish he had gotten a second
chance at the title. Because of his style of fighting, he would have beat
Tyson.(In the 80s) Tex told me,(and everyone around us) to bet the farm on
Buster Douglas when he fought Tyson. (Neither his friends nor I listened,
unfortunately) He knew Buster would win because when Tex fought Buster, they
went toe to toe..fighting on the inside, and Tex felt very strongly that
Tyson was very beatable if you fought him toe to toe. So, I feel badly that he
didn't get a shot at Tyson in Tyson's prime.
I am fairly sure, that at the age of 49, (In December) Tex would take a fight
against Tyson or anyone else.
Anyhow, that was a long answer to a short question!
Best,
Sharon
The Sanity Cruzer
> As far as a movie about his life, he is pretty bitter about how things
turned
> out. He is still blaming everyone else for his woes, and sadly, that
> overshadows what he did accomplish. He continues to be his own worst
enemy.
> Bottom line, a movie about a whiney warrior, obviously a contradiction in
> terms, just wouldn't sell in this already self indulgent society where
spoiled
> athletes are pitied for losing millions because they were blowing it on
blow
> and hookers, while the rest of us can only dream of being given the
opportunity
> to earn millions, and thank G-d for the chance to do so.
> I have never given up on him, though. I hope that some day he will accept
> responsibility for his woes, make right what he did wrong, and then he
really
> would have a story that Hollywood would want.
In the few times I saw Tex on talk shows (and it's been many years since
I've seen him on TV), he never struck me as being that way. Maybe he wasn't
complaining, yet, back then.
The character he portrayed in "Raising Arizona" is a classic.
It's too bad he's not satisfied with how things turned out. I believe, we
have everything we want*. The point being, if we really wanted something
badly enough, we'd do what it took to get that something. IMO, saying you
want something and not having your actions in alignment with your words put
you out of integrity. It sounds as if Tex would be best served to want what
he's got instead of complaining about what he 'should have'.
*When I say "want", I'm not talking about pipedreams, fantasies or wish
lists.
darr...@aol.com
> "The Sanity Cruzer" <sanity...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:wC_29.11130$cI.8...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > "DarrinT68" <darr...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20020803181834...@mb-ca.aol.com...
> > > Remember, Jews comprise a measly 1/4 of 1% (13 million) of the world's
> > > population (6 billion).> >
> > So what? I have zero interest in someone posting to RSB about what one
> race> > or religion has or has not accomplished.
> DarrinT68 has trolled every other sports newsgroup on Usenet with this.
> Please don't feed him. He is every bit as much a troll as the resular
> suspects here are.
Ivan, your definition of "every other sports newsgroup" must differ
from the rest of the world!heh FYI: I have only posted to one other
sports newsgroup - rec.sport.baseball. DOH! As to the other YUTZ who
claims that religion has no bearing on anything!? Like it or not, race
& religion exists, and race & religion can matter. Jews are separate
from any other religion due to 5 simple factors: They comprise a
measly 1/4 of 1% of the world's population (99% of the world is non
Jewish), they have been persecuted for centuries, they have lost 6
million in the Holocaust, they are universally acknowledged as the
source of many of the religions of the world, and they have persevered
to a disproportionate extent that has yet to be seen in any other
religion. You must care! Do you think it's just a coincidence!? Of the
660 Nobel prizes from 1901-1990, 160 have been won by Jews. That
number translates into winning 40x more than should be expected of
them, simply based upon their small populous numbers. In the end, Jews
win more Nobel prizes in medicine & science than any other ethnicity.
Choose any field of human endeavor, and you will find that Jews have
excelled in it. Jews are so few in number, yet so great in ability.
Jews were given a special gift - the gift of disproportionate talent
in every field of human endeavor. Remember, to say that Jews are
better than anyone else is to be guilty of a politically incorrect
kind of chauvinism. But one thing is certain - Jews really are smart!
There is simply no way to deny it! There must be a reason - and I can
give you at least three: HEREDITY, ENVIRONMENT and A UNIQUE VALUE
SYSTEM!..HEREDITY - Historians have pointed out a fascinating
difference between Jews and Christians. In Christianity, as well as in
many other religions, holiness was identified with asceticism, great
spirituality with the practie of celibacy. For centuries the finest
minds among Christians were urged to join the church and become
priests. That effectively condemned their genetic pool of intelligence
to an untimely end. Jews, on the other hand, took quite seriously the
first commandment to mankind - to be fruitful and multiply. Sex was
never seen as sinful, but rather as one of those things created by God
that he surely must have had in mind when he declared, in reviewing
his work, that "Behold everything was ver good." Among Jews, the most
intelligent were encouraged to become religious leaders. As rabbis,
they had to serve as role models for their congregants as procreators
and "fathers of their countries." Brains got passed on from generation
to generation, and Jews today are still reaping the benefits of the
frequent sexual activities of their ancestors... ENVIRONMENT - If
challenge and response are the keys to creativity and achievement,
it's no surprise that Jews are smart; they've been challenged more
than anyone else on earth. The school of hard knocks is a wonderful
teacher. Jews had no choice but to learn to be better than anyone else
since the odds were always so very much stacked against them. When
you're born with a silver spoon in your mouth, you tend to get fat and
lazy. When you're born with the lash of a whip on your back, you
quickly learn to become crafty, street smart, and knowledgeable in
everything that will help you make it through life... A UNIQUE VALUE
SYSTEM - Jews are smart because they have been raised in a tradition
that treasures education above everything else, that considers study
the highest obligation of mankind, and that identifies the intellect
as part of us created in "the image of God." To be illiterate was
unheard of in the Jewish world, not only because it was a sign of
stupidity, but, more significantly, because it was a sin. Jews are
obligated by law to review the Bible in its entirety every year,
dividing it into manageable weekly sections. The widespread custom
when a child turned three years old was to write the letter of the
Hebrew alphabet on a board in honey and have the child learn them as
he licked them off, equating their meaning with the taste of
sweetness. Jews studied the Midrash, and it taught them: The Sword and
the Book came from Heaven together, and the Holy One said: "Keep what
is written in this Book or be destroyed by the other." Jews studied
the Mishra and it taught them, "Say not when I have leisure I will
study; you may not have leisure." The Jews absorbed the teachings of
the Ethics of The fathers, and they understood its insight, "If you
have acquired knowledge, what do you lack? If you lack knowledge, what
have you acquired?" Philosophical Tevye, that delightful creation of
the Yiddish writer Sholem Aleichem and the star of Fiddler On The
Roof, explained that Jews always wear hats because they never know
when they will be forced to travel. What he didn't say, which is
probably more important, is that they always made sure to have
something under their hats and inside of their heads- because physical
possessions could be taken from them, but what they accumulated in
their minds would always remain the greatest "merchandise" a Jew
possesses. -D, NYC "Jews represent over 23% of Ivy League schools, yet
they comprise a measly 2% of the American population. On recent
College Boards, Jews averaged 1161. Unitarians did somewhat better
(1209), but the national average was 1020"
Brian Davis
both he and the opponet tested positive to Ganja Weed?
Miss Sharon Cobb
Tex tested positive for pot, not cocaine as Sports Illustrated reported. (SI
later corrected that mistake)
Sports Illustrated wrote a story about that fight called "The Fix Was In."
After all this time, it is still in the courts.
In fact, it finally reached the Supreme Court last week, after the 6th Circuit
Court threw out the verdict that had favored Tex.
I do not know, (nor does anyone) whether the Supreme Court will decide to hear
this case.
That's all the info I have at this time.
Best,
Sharon
Robert Phillips
As for Darrin's trolling, he at least manages to troll in a decent assortment of newsgroups, in
different threads (meaning, he doesn't just cross-post the same crap simultaneously in separate groups,
even if a lot of his text is cut and pasted or at least prepared prior to posting). So you gotta give
him that. But a prolific troll is still a troll.
Pie
Mike Haught
Cruzer says...
>
>"Miss Sharon Cobb" <misssha...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20020804194925...@mb-ch.aol.com...
>
>> As far as a movie about his life, he is pretty bitter about how things
>turned
>> out. He is still blaming everyone else for his woes, and sadly, that
>> overshadows what he did accomplish. He continues to be his own worst
>enemy.
>> Bottom line, a movie about a whiney warrior, obviously a contradiction in
>> terms, just wouldn't sell in this already self indulgent society where
>spoiled
>> athletes are pitied for losing millions because they were blowing it on
>blow
>> and hookers, while the rest of us can only dream of being given the
>opportunity
>> to earn millions, and thank G-d for the chance to do so.
>> I have never given up on him, though. I hope that some day he will accept
>> responsibility for his woes, make right what he did wrong, and then he
>really
>> would have a story that Hollywood would want.
>
>In the few times I saw Tex on talk shows (and it's been many years since
>I've seen him on TV), he never struck me as being that way. Maybe he wasn't
>complaining, yet, back then.
>
seemed to take himself too seriously.
>The character he portrayed in "Raising Arizona" is a classic.
>
One of the best comedies ever made, one of the best chase scenes ever filmed and
one of the most unforgetable comic villains (Leonard Smalls, Tex's character).
Thing is, there was just enough reality in that character (and I've known a few
guys like that character) to make the caricature very funny. He did a great
job.
>It's too bad he's not satisfied with how things turned out. I believe, we
>have everything we want*. The point being, if we really wanted something
>badly enough, we'd do what it took to get that something. IMO, saying you
>want something and not having your actions in alignment with your words put
>you out of integrity. It sounds as if Tex would be best served to want what
>he's got instead of complaining about what he 'should have'.
>
>*When I say "want", I'm not talking about pipedreams, fantasies or wish
>lists.
>
In most cases, very true. At least in the eventuality of how we work things
out.
Personally, I've always found Tex to be an honest, amusing and likable fellow.
I hope things go well for him. I think the last time I saw him on the screen
was in "Diggstown."
-mwh
the Nay Sayer
> Your list of great Jewish fighters omits James "Lights Out" Toney, who,
> like Max Baer, has worn the Star of David on his trunks, and who is
> every bit as Jewish as Max was.
>
It also omits Zab JUDAH.....
the Nay Sayer
the Nay Sayer
> "Ivan Weiss" <ivan....@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:<aijd2q$no0$1...@feed.centurytel.net>...
> Jews are separate
> from any other religion due to 5 simple factors: They comprise a
> measly 1/4 of 1% of the world's population (99% of the world is non
> Jewish)
I'd bet that if you'd ask that 1/4 of 1% to PROVE their 'Jewishness'
they'd have a hard time doing it....
>, they have been persecuted for centuries, they have lost 6
> million in the Holocaust,
And that makes you special? Others have suffered FAR worse than you.
Ask the Ethiopians of WWII....
> they are universally acknowledged as the
> source of many of the religions of the world,
Many? What 'many' would those be? And please, don't Include Islam in
your 'many'. Islam has NOTHING to do with Jews or Judaism.....
> and they have persevered
> to a disproportionate extent that has yet to be seen in any other
> religion.
Preserved what? The Torah? Funny how the oldest manuscripts, the
Dead Sea Scrools(you know, the ones discovered in 1947), only date
back to about 100 years before the birth of Jesus. It's also funny
how the Catholic Church has decided to make MAJOR REVISONS to your
so-called 'Holy' book based of the information learned from the
scrools......
> kind of chauvinism. But one thing is certain - Jews really are smart!
> There is simply no way to deny it! There must be a reason - and I can
> give you at least three: HEREDITY, ENVIRONMENT and A UNIQUE VALUE
> SYSTEM!
Ok, you asked for it. If Jews are so smart, as you claim, then why
are they LOSING the PR war to the Palestinians? Why has the whole of
the civilized world CONDEMNED their actions in Palestine? Why has the
UN passed so many resolutions that have effectively declared Israel a
colonial power? If Jews are so smart, as you claim, then why can't
they seem to grasp the idea that they will NEVER be rid of the
Palestinians? Why can't they grasp the idea that they WILL have to
give up Gaza, the West Bank, and the Heights or be removed from the
face of the Earth? If Jews are so smart, as you claim, then why can't
they deal with the ONGOING problem of Suicide Bombers?
> That effectively condemned their genetic pool of intelligence
> to an untimely end. Jews, on the other hand, took quite seriously the
> first commandment to mankind - to be fruitful and multiply.
Boy, you're really showing us all that supreme Jewish intelligence of
yours. If Jews 'took quite seriously the first commandment to mankind
- to be fruitful and multiply' as you claim then WHY do you ONLY
comprise a WHOPPING 1/4 of 1% of the worlds population?
> Sex was
> never seen as sinful, but rather as one of those things created by God
> that he surely must have had in mind when he declared, in reviewing
> his work, that "Behold everything was ver good." Among Jews, the most
> intelligent were encouraged to become religious leaders. As rabbis,
> they had to serve as role models for their congregants as procreators
> and "fathers of their countries." Brains got passed on from generation
> to generation, and Jews today are still reaping the benefits of the
> frequent sexual activities of their ancestors...
>
Well, maybe they were too smart. Instead of procreating, they we
thinking about procreating.....
<Meaningless waste of bandwidth snipped>
> On recent
> College Boards, Jews averaged 1161. Unitarians did somewhat better
> (1209),
Ok, mr. Genius, can you explain this statistic? Someone else smarter
than Jews. How can that be?
PS. I don't see the Unitarians here bragging about their 'brain
power'? Maybe they actually use they brains instead of bragging about
them....
the Nay Sayer
the Nay Sayer
> "Keith Patrick" <kpat...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<eG%29.37$7e5.19...@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>...
> > You left out Zab Judah (and for that matter, his brother, Daniel, and his
> > father, Yoel.
> >
> I suppose that's why Zab gives props to "Jesus Christ, his Lord and
> Savior, couldn't 'a done it with out Him yadda yadda" after his
> fights.
When, where? I've never heard Zab say diddly squat about JC....
the Nay Sayer
nixonjavie...@gmail.com
On Saturday, August 3, 2002 at 6:18:34 PM UTC-4, DarrinT68 wrote:
> Remember, Jews comprise a measly 1/4 of 1% (13 million) of the world's
> population (6 billion). Choose any field of human endeavor (including
> athletics), and you will find that Jews have disproprotionately excelled in it.
> you:
>
Loose Cannon
Windy Dryden
Emanuel Berg
> Remember, Jews comprise a measly 1/4 of 1% (13
> million) of the world's population (6 billion).
> Choose any field of human endeavor (including
> athletics), and you will find that Jews have
> disproprotionately excelled in it. Jews are so few
> in number, yet so great in ability.
in sports.
Here is the combined total Olympics top ten nations,
and Israel. [1]
Sure, there have been so many wars. And _a lot_ of
things to do in Israel, including physical things,
e.g. construction. Obviously they do not have the
populations and/or resources compared to many of the
top ten nations. Israel was founded, and recognized
by the US, only on 1948-05-14, a mere 72y 4m 14d ago. [2]
So no disrespect to Israel who, I agree, have been
very energetic and creative in many areas, and from
a tough starting point at that...
Still, all said and done, the digits are what they
are... enjoy :)
combined total, summer/winter olympics:
gold silver bronze sum
---------------------------------------
1. USA 1127 907 794 2828
2. Russia 726 593 591 1910
3. Germany 578 589 587 1754
4. UK 274 299 310 883
5. France 248 276 316 840
6. Italy 246 214 241 701
7. China 237 195 176 608
8. Sweden 202 216 234 652
9. Norway 188 174 158 520
10. Hungary 176 149 173 498
.. .. .. .. .. ..
?. Israel 1 1 7 9 [3]
---------------------------------------
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table
[2] https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/creation-israel
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gal_Fridman
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Darrin T
> Windy Dryden wrote:
>
> > Remember, Jews comprise a measly 1/4 of 1% (13
> > million) of the world's population (6 billion).
> > Choose any field of human endeavor (including
> > athletics), and you will find that Jews have
Darrin T
Emanuel Berg
>> combined total, summer/winter olympics:
>>
>> gold silver bronze sum
>> ---------------------------------------
>> 1. USA 1127 907 794 2828
>> 2. Russia 726 593 591 1910
>> 3. Germany 578 589 587 1754
>> 4. UK 274 299 310 883
>> 5. France 248 276 316 840
>> 6. Italy 246 214 241 701
>> 7. China 237 195 176 608
>> 8. Sweden 202 216 234 652
>> 9. Norway 188 174 158 520
>> 10. Hungary 176 149 173 498
>> .. .. .. .. .. ..
>> ?. Israel 1 1 7 9 [3]
>> ---------------------------------------
>> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gal_Fridman
> Emanuel, are you playing the selective game? I was
OK, well, the table above is about the Olympic games where
Israel has a very weak record, so yes, that is something
else then...
*ernie
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Google. Who is he?