HBO: Punch sound effects???
tomkins
Last week I noticed it again during the Mayweather-Vargas fight.
What I'm referring to is a "swisshhh-thud" sound. The reason I think it's
not real is because it always sounds the same -- no matter which fighter
threw the punch, or how hard he threw it. And I can't imagine what makes
the "swiiisssshhh" sound. At first I thought it was the fighter letting
out his breath during the punch. But that didn't seem to follow the
action, and it was always the exact same sound for each fighter, and for
each kind of punch. Surely, one man would sound different from another.
So, if not the exhale, then I figured it must be the glove sliding across
the arm, body, chin, or other surface of the opponent. But that didn't
follow the action, and didn't match the timing of a blocked punch.
I couldn't match the timing of the swiiissshhh with what I see on the
screen. So it must be added, it would seem. Also, some punches would have
the sound, then a second later (in the same place in the ring and at the
same angle) there would be NO sound at all for the same punch! What's
going on? It must be sound effects added by HBO. (I never hear this kind
of punch sound on ESPN either.)
Also, in some rounds (or later in a round) the punch sounds would stop.
This couldn't be because the microphone didn't pick it up--the action was
in the same ring locations as earlier, and the punches were too similar
as before. I figured the sound-effect operator just got tired, or lost
his concentration and rhythm.
Has anyone else noticed this? I hope I'm not crazy (in this respect at
least).
Brian
>I sware that there must be punch sound effects added to some HBO fights.
>Last week I noticed it again during the Mayweather-Vargas fight.
Go see a fight in person to find out for yourself how the punches sound, but get
good seats. Remember HBO has microphones hanging above the fighters.
matt...@i1.net
better on HBO than any other network. Personly, I wish they would just put a
microphone in the ring and get rid of the announcers.
tomkins wrote:
> I sware that there must be punch sound effects added to some HBO fights.
> Last week I noticed it again during the Mayweather-Vargas fight.
>
Melanie Ley
>I haven't noticed a "fake" sound. But I do think that you hear the punches
>better on HBO than any other network. Personly, I wish they would just put a
>microphone in the ring and get rid of the announcers.
Me too - can't stand the HBO guys. Ugh. However, where would
you suggest placing the mic so it wouldn't be a safety hazard?
Mel
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Rikkitavi
blow-by-blow guy in the business. Name one better?
As for the others, I don't think that Larry is all that bad either. He
calls it like he sees it, even though that might be wrong 75% of the time.
George is just terrible and Roy makes good points but could stand an English
lesson or three..
RikkiTavi
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>On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 12:51:01 -0600, matt...@i1.net wrote:
>
>>I haven't noticed a "fake" sound. But I do think that you hear the punches
>>better on HBO than any other network. Personly, I wish they would just put a
>>microphone in the ring and get rid of the announcers.
>
> Me too - can't stand the HBO guys. Ugh. However, where would
>you suggest placing the mic so it wouldn't be a safety hazard?
>
>
>Mel
>
Mel,
With some fighters, the safest
place to put the microphones,
in their gloves.
In real terms, the ring could be
easily "mike" designed for "wide
area" pick-up.
I think our good poster Todd could
provide more info on "miking"
techniques.
Todd, are you reading?
DCI
boymayo.at.boxingchronicle.com
The sound you hear is the fighter's exhaling through their noses. The more
agressive the sound, the more power they're putting into a particular shot.
Variances in sound can also happen depending on the camera angle, as the
handheld cameras in the corner have additional mics on them, while the long/med
shot camera from the rafters only takes audio from the mics hanging above the
screen.
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matt...@i1.net
just by listening to the way he calls the fight. He spends to much time on that
particular fighter, ignores his opponent, and praises him for every little thing
he does and says nothing good about the other guy. Watch any DLH fight. If you
just listened to the fight you would think that Oscar was hitting a heavy bag.
Rikkitavi wrote:
> I guess I'm in the minority here...I think Jim Lampley is the best
> blow-by-blow guy in the business. Name one better?
>
> As for the others, I don't think that Larry is all that bad either. He
> calls it like he sees it, even though that might be wrong 75% of the time.
> George is just terrible and Roy makes good points but could stand an English
> lesson or three..
>
> RikkiTavi
>
> "Melanie Ley" <box...@home.NOSPAMcom> wrote in message
> news:38e16211.9673948@news...
> > On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 12:51:01 -0600, matt...@i1.net wrote:
> >
> > >I haven't noticed a "fake" sound. But I do think that you hear the
> punches
> > >better on HBO than any other network. Personly, I wish they would just
> put a
> > >microphone in the ring and get rid of the announcers.
> >
> > Me too - can't stand the HBO guys. Ugh. However, where would
> > you suggest placing the mic so it wouldn't be a safety hazard?
> >
> >
> > Mel
> >
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Rikkitavi
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nospa...@sydcom.net (Rikkitavi) wrote:
>I guess I'm in the minority here...I think Jim
>Lampley is the best blow-by-blow guy in the
>business. Name one better?
I wonder how much Oscar pays Jim Lampley? Has anybody else noticed how
Lampley makes up all these excuses for Oscar when he's getting beat up.
The one thing I like about the HBO commentators is when Oscar is getting
beat up, and they all start arguing with each other.
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Melanie Ley
<nospa...@sydcom.net> wrote:
>That being said, I hope Shane really puts it on De La Hoya, I just don't care for Oscar. All I'm trying to say is that Lampley calls it objectively and is the best blow-by-blow guy in the business. I'll ask the question again: Who would you put in Lampley's seat?
Al Bernstein. Rich Morotta (sp?).
Rikkitavi
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Brian Clifton
tomkins <tomt...@netcom.com> wrote:
> I sware that there must be punch sound effects added to some HBO
fights.
>
>
C'mon, be serious... Think about what it would take to add sound
effects like that during a live fight. If that were the case, every
time a fighter feinted a punch you would hear the swish...
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Melanie Ley
<nospa...@sydcom.net> wrote:
>No way, those guys are sidekicks, "color" analysts.
They are both better than Limpley.
DM...@webtv.net
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RikkiTavi wrote:
>When has Oscar ever been "beaten up"?
Fights Oscar has lost Tito, Pernell, Ike. Also Oscar got help in the
Pernell, and Ike fight.
Miguel Gonzales gave him a beating, he also shutted his right eye, and
was the first fighter to make him run.
Carr gave Oscar a beating too. The HBO commentators were making comments
that Oscar got Old. "In this fight it was supposed to be a celebration
with his fans, but it ended up being disappointment," said Larry. The
fans were stunned and quiet.
I don't think that anyone would claim that Quartey "was beating up
Oscar" - even when he dropped him with that flash knockdown.
I'll claim that Ike gave him the worst beating of his life. Ike out
powered, out jabbed, and overwhelmed him speed. Before the knockdown Ike
already had him hurt. The hook Ike hit Oscar with didnt look like it had
much power behind it. After Oscar got up Ike clubbed him some more and
then Oscar holds on for dear life, and then the ref gives Oscar a couple
more seconds to survive. After the fight Oscar thought he got caught by
a right hand, when it actually was a left hook. Oscar was still out
after the fight.
>During the final 3-4 rounds against Trinidad,
>Lampely said several times that Oscar was "out
>of gas" and "on his bike." I don't believe that
>those are excuses.
I dont remember Lampely saying those comments. When Tito was beating
Oscar, and he was running alway Lampely kept his mouth shut. When i want
to see a fighter run, and see the desperation in face. I watch the TIto
vs. Oscar fight. When im watching this fight I cant stop laughing see
Oscar run for his life. The one thing that gives me pleasure is when
Foreman is screaming to Oscar, Oscar do something, throw something with
power, so that Tito can respect you. Its funny but Oscar never threw
anything with power, but kept on running. You run you survive, you stand
and fight you get knocked out.
>I'll ask the question again: Who would you put
>in Lampley's seat?
mea...@yahoo.com
>
> Miguel Gonzales gave him a beating, he also shutted his right eye, and
> was the first fighter to make him run.
WTF? Jesus, you're stupid....
tomkins
boy...@aol.comxspamx says...
> >I sware that there must be punch sound effects added to some HBO fights.
>
> agressive the sound, the more power they're putting into a particular shot.
> Variances in sound can also happen depending on the camera angle, as the
> handheld cameras in the corner have additional mics on them, while the long/med
> shot camera from the rafters only takes audio from the mics hanging above the
> screen.
>
sound effects operator could keep up with the punches. But I couldn't
figure out what the sound actually was -- from my living room.
i cheehuahua.
You're going to hell for that line!!!
i cheehuahua
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> mea...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> >Miguel Gonzales gave him a beating, he also
> >shutted his right eye, and was the first fighter to
> >make him run.
>
>
> facts, and if you dont believe me watch the fight again. I know you
did
> agree that Carr did give Oscar a good beating, because you left his
post
> out. Like I said before Carr started the combinations, and he ended.
First, I'm not an oscar fan. and I don't give a shit wether you suck his
dick or not. oscar beat gonzalez with his jab alone, not the other way
around you like you put it. i didn't see the carr fight. oscar used
gonzalez's head like a punching bag night long. for once report some
truths, you dumb-f*ck.
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David Bush
<nospa...@sydcom.net> wrote:
> Roy makes good points but could stand an English
> lesson or three..
Actually a diction lesson would do.
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