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Mentalguy2k8
May 14, 2013, 1:08:42 PM5/14/13
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Former WBA heavyweight champion David Haye has pulled out of his proposed 29
June bout with Manuel Charr due to a hand injury sustained in training.
The Briton had hoped a strong showing against Lebanon-born German Charr, 28,
would help set up a world title fight with one of the Klitschko brothers.
It is not yet clear whether the fight, which was scheduled for the
Manchester Arena, will be rearranged.
"I'm absolutely gutted to have to pull out of this fight," said Haye, 32.
"I need to rest it up for at least four weeks. I pick up injuries now and
again in training, and sometimes carry them into fights, but this was one I
simply couldn't recover from in time.
"I apologise to Manuel Charr and to everybody involved with the promotion.
But most of all I want to say sorry to the thousands of fans who bought
tickets to the fight. I felt it was important to let them know about the
cancellation as soon as possible, so they can now make other plans.
zzzzZZZZZzzzzz......
June bout with Manuel Charr due to a hand injury sustained in training.
The Briton had hoped a strong showing against Lebanon-born German Charr, 28,
would help set up a world title fight with one of the Klitschko brothers.
It is not yet clear whether the fight, which was scheduled for the
Manchester Arena, will be rearranged.
"I'm absolutely gutted to have to pull out of this fight," said Haye, 32.
"I need to rest it up for at least four weeks. I pick up injuries now and
again in training, and sometimes carry them into fights, but this was one I
simply couldn't recover from in time.
"I apologise to Manuel Charr and to everybody involved with the promotion.
But most of all I want to say sorry to the thousands of fans who bought
tickets to the fight. I felt it was important to let them know about the
cancellation as soon as possible, so they can now make other plans.
zzzzZZZZZzzzzz......
Mr.Will Music
May 14, 2013, 5:18:29 PM5/14/13
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DCI
May 14, 2013, 9:10:43 PM5/14/13
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DCI
Mentalguy2k8
May 15, 2013, 6:48:04 AM5/15/13
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"DCI" <50b...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >
>>
>> > zzzzZZZZZzzzzz......
>>
>> yes exactly.........I'd injure my hand if nobody was buying
>> tickets.......
>
>
> Mr. Will, he must sell tickets!
>
his "die hard" fans bought them before they knew the opponent, looks like
the real boxing fans saw the announcement and decided to give it a swerve.
I suppose he'll be on every TV show now publicising his next fight, and may
even "bump into" Derek Chisora outside a nightclub somewhere, with the
paparazzi coincidentally being around. Let's hope Adam Booth remembers where
he's supposed to stand this time... :)
DCI
May 15, 2013, 1:39:10 PM5/15/13
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DCI
Emanuel Berg
May 15, 2013, 8:16:31 PM5/15/13
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DCI <50b...@gmail.com> writes:
> Sort of reminds of the fight joke. A fighter has been taking one
> hell of a beating from his opponent. Whe he gets knock flat down,
> the referee starts his count. The fight looks up just as the referee
> counts *. The fighter asks, "Is he gone yet."
Ha ha ha!
> Sort of reminds of the fight joke. A fighter has been taking one
> hell of a beating from his opponent. Whe he gets knock flat down,
> the referee starts his count. The fight looks up just as the referee
> counts *. The fighter asks, "Is he gone yet."
But tell me: why are you guys always so angry with Haye?
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DCI
May 15, 2013, 9:04:52 PM5/15/13
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On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:16:31 PM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> DCI <50b...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>
> > Sort of reminds of the fight joke. A fighter has been taking one
>
> > hell of a beating from his opponent. Whe he gets knock flat down,
>
> > the referee starts his count. The fight looks up just as the referee
>
> > counts *. The fighter asks, "Is he gone yet."
>
>
>
> Ha ha ha!
>
>
>
> But tell me: why are you guys always so angry with Haye?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Emanuel Berg
where in the world did you ever assume that I am angry with Haye?
> DCI <50b...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>
> > Sort of reminds of the fight joke. A fighter has been taking one
>
> > hell of a beating from his opponent. Whe he gets knock flat down,
>
> > the referee starts his count. The fight looks up just as the referee
>
> > counts *. The fighter asks, "Is he gone yet."
>
>
>
> Ha ha ha!
>
>
>
> But tell me: why are you guys always so angry with Haye?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Emanuel Berg
DCI
Emanuel Berg
May 15, 2013, 10:13:00 PM5/15/13
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DCI <50b...@gmail.com> writes:
> Where in the world did you ever assume that I am angry with Haye?
OK! Maybe not you... but a lot of messages are making fun of him. And
not just this time around. I don't think he is that exciting. But it
seems some people almost hold a personal grudge. (?)
> Where in the world did you ever assume that I am angry with Haye?
OK! Maybe not you... but a lot of messages are making fun of him. And
not just this time around. I don't think he is that exciting. But it
seems some people almost hold a personal grudge. (?)
Vanman
May 15, 2013, 11:36:38 PM5/15/13
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Well one could make the case that he is a "media whore" who ironically could
not deliver after the obnoxious hype before the Wlad fight (ended up being a
wallflower).
"Emanuel Berg" <embe...@student.uu.se> wrote in message
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not deliver after the obnoxious hype before the Wlad fight (ended up being a
wallflower).
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Mentalguy2k8
May 16, 2013, 6:57:02 AM5/16/13
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"Vanman" <Vanc...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Well one could make the case that he is a "media whore" who ironically
> could not deliver after the obnoxious hype before the Wlad fight (ended up
> being a wallflower).
terms of self-hype versus result, he's beginning to look like the new
Audley.
That SOB Van Owen
May 16, 2013, 7:20:06 AM5/16/13
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On Thu, 16 May 2013 04:13:00 +0200, Emanuel Berg <email clipped>
wrote:
>DCI <email clipped> writes:
>
>> Where in the world did you ever assume that I am angry with Haye?
>
>OK! Maybe not you... but a lot of messages are making fun of him. And
>not just this time around. I don't think he is that exciting. But it
>seems some people almost hold a personal grudge. (?)
I've always found Britons to be trenchantly critical of their own
fighters, and certainly those of their Irish neighbors, and all the
more so when the fighter steps out on a world stage. I assume a lot of
it is just bluster, and that deep down his worst critics are actually
fond of David Haye.
That SOB Van Owen
wrote:
>DCI <email clipped> writes:
>
>> Where in the world did you ever assume that I am angry with Haye?
>
>OK! Maybe not you... but a lot of messages are making fun of him. And
>not just this time around. I don't think he is that exciting. But it
>seems some people almost hold a personal grudge. (?)
fighters, and certainly those of their Irish neighbors, and all the
more so when the fighter steps out on a world stage. I assume a lot of
it is just bluster, and that deep down his worst critics are actually
fond of David Haye.
That SOB Van Owen
That SOB Van Owen
May 16, 2013, 7:41:39 AM5/16/13
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On Tue, 14 May 2013 22:18:29 +0100, "Mr.Will Music" <email clipped>
wrote:
>yes exactly.........I'd injure my hand if nobody was buying tickets.......
Funny, yes. Uncalled for, yes. ;)
Tha SOB Van Owen
wrote:
>yes exactly.........I'd injure my hand if nobody was buying tickets.......
Tha SOB Van Owen
Mentalguy2k8
May 16, 2013, 9:00:29 AM5/16/13
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"That SOB Van Owen" <spa...@not.com> wrote in message
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boxing in the 80s were spoiled, we had so many fighters to get behind
(especially middleweight). The only one I can think of who really divided
opinion was Eubank, and that was for his ridiculous behaviour outside the
ring. But they all gave us value for money, Frank Bruno was a bit of a joke
figure but everyone loved him and supported him. I don't ever remember
watching a Brit fighting and hoping he would lose because I didn't like him,
or I thought he was more mouth than talent. We used to talk about what they
did (or could do in the future) *in* the ring rather than read months of
trash talk in the papers and then watch them run away for 12 rounds because
of a sore toe.
We had a mini-revival of (British) heavyweight boxing more recently with
Danny Williams, Skelton, Gary Mason, Sprott, Julius Francis etc., but it's
all gone stale now. We just don't have the fighters any more who make you
like them outside the ring and keep you supporting them. Fury is an
obnoxious imbecile, David Price has no personality. What Fury doesn't
realise is that his behaviour might sell tickets to his biggest fans, but
he's turned the rest of us off him. There's a fine line between mouthing off
but backing it up (Eubank) and making people think "I want to pay to go and
watch this guy win/get beat" and having them think (Fury) "this guy isn't a
great fighter but he's arrogant and dismissive, I'm going to watch on free
TV or stream a PPV channel online and hope he gets flattened".
We like guys who give everything, Bruno always did, so did Calzaghe, Eubank,
Benn, John "The Beast" Mugabi (remember him??), we can always forgive
anything if we can see they've done their best. Haye still has to earn that,
and I'm not sure he ever will.
Emanuel Berg
May 16, 2013, 10:27:03 AM5/16/13
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*Laughter*!
Although I won't argue with any of this - because I don't know UK
boxing, really - but the post is a fine illustration of what I
meant. Three paragraphs of bashing Haye, Fury, and Price.
But: I agree Haye and Price are a bit lame.
As for Fury, he is still young (and a sport star at that). I'll let
him grow up before I pass judgment.
Although I won't argue with any of this - because I don't know UK
boxing, really - but the post is a fine illustration of what I
meant. Three paragraphs of bashing Haye, Fury, and Price.
But: I agree Haye and Price are a bit lame.
As for Fury, he is still young (and a sport star at that). I'll let
him grow up before I pass judgment.
Mentalguy2k8
May 16, 2013, 3:00:24 PM5/16/13
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make of themselves calling out rival families for a bareknuckle scrap, even
the 50+ year-olds.
The point I was trying to make was we knew that the guys I mentioned would
give it everything they had (I'm sure Nigel Benn was hospitalised at least
once with exhaustion after a fight and pissing blood), Bruno would tire from
about 30 seconds into the first round but he had the heart of a lion until
he got KOd. They were real warriors, I think the current trio are just heavy
punchers. I stand to be corrected of course. It's very hard to get behind a
guy like Haye after the Klitshko fight and his toe excuse when we've had
fighters KO opponents despite dislocated shoulders and go 12 rounds with
broken hands.
> *Laughter*!
>
> Although I won't argue with any of this - because I don't know UK
> boxing, really - but the post is a fine illustration of what I
> meant. Three paragraphs of bashing Haye, Fury, and Price.
>
> But: I agree Haye and Price are a bit lame.
>
> As for Fury, he is still young (and a sport star at that). I'll let
> him grow up before I pass judgment.
Fury is a gypsy, they never grow out of it. Youtube is full of videos they
>
> Although I won't argue with any of this - because I don't know UK
> boxing, really - but the post is a fine illustration of what I
> meant. Three paragraphs of bashing Haye, Fury, and Price.
>
> But: I agree Haye and Price are a bit lame.
>
> As for Fury, he is still young (and a sport star at that). I'll let
> him grow up before I pass judgment.
make of themselves calling out rival families for a bareknuckle scrap, even
the 50+ year-olds.
The point I was trying to make was we knew that the guys I mentioned would
give it everything they had (I'm sure Nigel Benn was hospitalised at least
once with exhaustion after a fight and pissing blood), Bruno would tire from
about 30 seconds into the first round but he had the heart of a lion until
he got KOd. They were real warriors, I think the current trio are just heavy
punchers. I stand to be corrected of course. It's very hard to get behind a
guy like Haye after the Klitshko fight and his toe excuse when we've had
fighters KO opponents despite dislocated shoulders and go 12 rounds with
broken hands.
That SOB Van Owen
May 16, 2013, 3:04:26 PM5/16/13
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On Thu, 16 May 2013 20:00:24 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8" <email clipped>
wrote:
>Fury is a gypsy, they never grow out of it.
Finally, you offer compliment.
That SOB Van Owen
wrote:
>Fury is a gypsy, they never grow out of it.
That SOB Van Owen
Mentalguy2k8
May 17, 2013, 8:47:29 AM5/17/13
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Maybe I'm too cynical or the passion isn't there any more, but when fighters
mouth off after they've knocked over bum number 20, about how they're one
fight away from the World Title and when you see the blatant things they say
and do to fleece the fans, I start supporting the "other guy". It's almost
as if we start to treat anyone who publicises themselves mercilessly, with
the contempt they treat us with. It used to mean something when fighters
talked about knocking each other's head off or eating their children, it
doesn't any more. When Nigel Benn or Mike Tyson promised a war, that's what
we got.
David Haye promised us all kinds of carnage on Wlad, even had t-shirts
printed with him holding the K brothers' decapitated heads. And then he
pranced around for 12 rounds out of range, blaming a broken toe. I'd have
had much more respect for him if he'd given his all for a round and a half
before being KOd, that's what us British want. We love a trier, doesn't
matter if he gets splattered as long as he gave it a good go.
> On Thu, 16 May 2013 20:00:24 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8" <email clipped>
> wrote:
>
>>Fury is a gypsy, they never grow out of it.
>
> Finally, you offer compliment.
I try to give credit where it's due....
> wrote:
>
>>Fury is a gypsy, they never grow out of it.
>
> Finally, you offer compliment.
Maybe I'm too cynical or the passion isn't there any more, but when fighters
mouth off after they've knocked over bum number 20, about how they're one
fight away from the World Title and when you see the blatant things they say
and do to fleece the fans, I start supporting the "other guy". It's almost
as if we start to treat anyone who publicises themselves mercilessly, with
the contempt they treat us with. It used to mean something when fighters
talked about knocking each other's head off or eating their children, it
doesn't any more. When Nigel Benn or Mike Tyson promised a war, that's what
we got.
David Haye promised us all kinds of carnage on Wlad, even had t-shirts
printed with him holding the K brothers' decapitated heads. And then he
pranced around for 12 rounds out of range, blaming a broken toe. I'd have
had much more respect for him if he'd given his all for a round and a half
before being KOd, that's what us British want. We love a trier, doesn't
matter if he gets splattered as long as he gave it a good go.
Emanuel Berg
May 17, 2013, 3:23:48 PM5/17/13
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"Mentalguy2k8" <Mental...@gmail.com> writes:
> I'd have had much more respect for him if he'd given his all for a
> round and a half before being KOd, that's what us British want. We
> love a trier, doesn't matter if he gets splattered as long as he
> gave it a good go.
What about Amir Khan? Super-skilled, warrior-heart, over-confident,
> I'd have had much more respect for him if he'd given his all for a
> round and a half before being KOd, that's what us British want. We
> love a trier, doesn't matter if he gets splattered as long as he
> gave it a good go.
not afraid to take a punch (although he's not very good at it). I've
written a couple of articles on him but haven't heard one word (?) of
him from the UK people (correct me if I'm wrong).
If the heavyweight division is only so-so interesting right now, why
waste time being frustrated? There are tons of other divisions, many
of which have been ten times as interesting for a very long time.
Mr.Will Music
May 18, 2013, 10:39:58 AM5/18/13
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Think with tv and all the money etc fighters are rushed into the limelight -
I mean Audley Harrison headlining a show on national tv for his second or
third fight - same with Amir Khan - the likes of Bruno, Eubank, Benn etc we
didnt see until they were pretty much title contender ready. Obnoxious folk
like Tyson Fury who are quite carefully matched to date are hardly the same
level of inspiration, more pantomime - and sadly thats where David Haye has
thrown himself. To be fair, Haye battled at cruiserweight for a long time
and his career was fantastic there, but he finally figured out the only way
to get people watching was to resort to all that nonsense, and while its
very much "X factor" in terms of getting folk excited, just like "X factor"
its all very paper thin and without substance - at SOME point people will
get bored of the pretence.
Thats why the likes of PrizeFighter have been so successful - people really
don't care for the standard of fighter too much, provided honest efforts are
being given. I think Khan was never a huge ticket seller, but people had the
impression of him being carefuly managed and matched up (with the few KO's
against him confirming it in their minds).
As for Bruno - I always thought he got a bit of a raw deal in the British
Public's eyes. He had the most success out of the UK heavyweights up until
Lewis, and certainly never embarrased himself in the ring (except maybe the
second Tyson fight). Most heavies from these shores were beaten once
fighting on the "world" level. It would have been good to see him fight the
likes of Tyson Fury et al........
Mr.Will
I mean Audley Harrison headlining a show on national tv for his second or
third fight - same with Amir Khan - the likes of Bruno, Eubank, Benn etc we
didnt see until they were pretty much title contender ready. Obnoxious folk
like Tyson Fury who are quite carefully matched to date are hardly the same
level of inspiration, more pantomime - and sadly thats where David Haye has
thrown himself. To be fair, Haye battled at cruiserweight for a long time
and his career was fantastic there, but he finally figured out the only way
to get people watching was to resort to all that nonsense, and while its
very much "X factor" in terms of getting folk excited, just like "X factor"
its all very paper thin and without substance - at SOME point people will
get bored of the pretence.
Thats why the likes of PrizeFighter have been so successful - people really
don't care for the standard of fighter too much, provided honest efforts are
being given. I think Khan was never a huge ticket seller, but people had the
impression of him being carefuly managed and matched up (with the few KO's
against him confirming it in their minds).
As for Bruno - I always thought he got a bit of a raw deal in the British
Public's eyes. He had the most success out of the UK heavyweights up until
Lewis, and certainly never embarrased himself in the ring (except maybe the
second Tyson fight). Most heavies from these shores were beaten once
fighting on the "world" level. It would have been good to see him fight the
likes of Tyson Fury et al........
Mr.Will
Emanuel Berg
May 18, 2013, 3:40:28 PM5/18/13
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"Mr.Will Music" <wi...@mr-will-music.co.uk> writes:
> Think with TV and all the money etc. fighters are rushed into the
> limelight - I mean Audley Harrison headlining a show on national TV
> for his second or third fight - same with Amir Khan - ...
Yeah, but Khan was a star even as an amateur so why shouldn't there be
national interest in his professional career right from the start?
> Think with TV and all the money etc. fighters are rushed into the
> limelight - I mean Audley Harrison headlining a show on national TV
> for his second or third fight - same with Amir Khan - ...
Yeah, but Khan was a star even as an amateur so why shouldn't there be
national interest in his professional career right from the start?
Mr.Will Music
May 20, 2013, 8:58:48 AM5/20/13
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four x two minute fight as the head of the card without much else to support
it.
Mr.Will
> "Mr.Will Music" <wi...@mr-will-music.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Think with TV and all the money etc. fighters are rushed into the
>> limelight - I mean Audley Harrison headlining a show on national TV
>> for his second or third fight - same with Amir Khan - ...
>
> Yeah, but Khan was a star even as an amateur so why shouldn't there be
> national interest in his professional career right from the start?
>
Thats always been the case, but as a headliner? That was a rush job having a
>
>> Think with TV and all the money etc. fighters are rushed into the
>> limelight - I mean Audley Harrison headlining a show on national TV
>> for his second or third fight - same with Amir Khan - ...
>
> Yeah, but Khan was a star even as an amateur so why shouldn't there be
> national interest in his professional career right from the start?
>
four x two minute fight as the head of the card without much else to support
it.
Mr.Will
Emanuel Berg
May 20, 2013, 11:17:56 AM5/20/13
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"Mr.Will Music" <wi...@mr-will-music.co.uk> writes:
>> Yeah, but Khan was a star even as an amateur so why shouldn't there
>> be national interest in his professional career right from the
>> start?
>
> Thats always been the case, but as a headliner? That was a rush job
> having a four x two minute fight as the head of the card without
> much else to support it.
Aha, I see you point, but - as for me, as long as the fight is on TV
>> Yeah, but Khan was a star even as an amateur so why shouldn't there
>> be national interest in his professional career right from the
>> start?
>
> Thats always been the case, but as a headliner? That was a rush job
> having a four x two minute fight as the head of the card without
> much else to support it.
(and there is a crowd cheering), I don't care if it is a headline,
co-featured bout, undercard fight, and all what they call it.
But I agree it may turn a bit comical if they all in unison hit the
big drums, and then it boil down to Khan beating up some journeyman
with a "permanent brain-damage" record (if that indeed was the case).
Still, I love to see the most skilled boxers fight and I don't really
care for what belt, money, etc. Skills are skills, fights are fights.
DCI
May 20, 2013, 12:59:54 PM5/20/13
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On Monday, May 20, 2013 8:17:56 AM UTC-7, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Cut -
DCI
Cut -
>
> Still, I love to see the most skilled boxers fight and I don't really
>
> care for what belt, money, etc. Skills are skills, fights are fights.
>
> --
>
> Emanuel Berg -
That makes you a true fan of the Sweet Science.
> Still, I love to see the most skilled boxers fight and I don't really
>
> care for what belt, money, etc. Skills are skills, fights are fights.
>
> --
>
> Emanuel Berg -
DCI
Mr.Will Music
May 23, 2013, 4:05:12 PM5/23/13
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accurate, "yes"
Mr.Will
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