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Wadesvilla00

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Mar 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/4/00
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DO NOT LEND THIS MAN MONEY, HE OWES ALOT OF PEOPLE IN HOUSTON AND AUSTIN TX,
THERE IS A REWARD FOR INFO ON HIM. LAST SEEN IN KANSAS CITY.

Derek Ray

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On 04 Mar 2000 04:48:11 GMT, wadesv...@aol.com (Wadesvilla00)
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>DO NOT LEND THIS MAN MONEY, HE OWES ALOT OF PEOPLE IN HOUSTON AND AUSTIN TX,
>THERE IS A REWARD FOR INFO ON HIM. LAST SEEN IN KANSAS CITY.

I've seen him around here before.
He plays real strong.

Were you curious about more? =P

-- Derek

Deafness never kept composers from hearing the music.
It only stopped them hearing the distractions.

R. Hugh Arnold

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im sure he'll be at the super billiards expo in king of prussia. is there a
bounty, and how much?

--

RHA3

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JoeyA

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I lent him $40.00 and he paid me back within 6 months and I only had to ask
once.
That time frame is not bad for a pool player. But thanks for the warning.
JoeyA
P.S. What is the reward amount? What info do you want? Who stands good
for the reward money? Can I trust that they will pay if I provide?


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lfigueroa

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You just figured out Cliff's credit rating isn't on a par with that of the
Royal Family? I thought this was well known in the pool community. Still,
he left St. Louis a couple of years ago with a trail of unpaid markers that
would impress the IMF. I've heard that he just lost many Pokeman cards down
in the Atlanta area to Mr. Cooney. You may have to wait in a rather long
line to get paid...

Lou Figueroa

Derek Ray

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Mar 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/4/00
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(Mostly, I was razzing this guy because I think he was the one who
hopped up and yelped "Your an action knocker"(sic) to someone else...
and now here he is tryin to spread word? There's a kettle around
here...)

On Sat, 4 Mar 2000 04:51:12 -0500, "R. Hugh Arnold" <RH...@alink.com>
wrote:

>im sure he'll be at the super billiards expo in king of prussia. is there a
>bounty, and how much?

-- Derek

Derek Ray

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On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 16:16:57 GMT, "lfigueroa"
<lfig...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>You just figured out Cliff's credit rating isn't on a par with that of the
>Royal Family? I thought this was well known in the pool community. Still,
>he left St. Louis a couple of years ago with a trail of unpaid markers that
>would impress the IMF. I've heard that he just lost many Pokeman cards down
>in the Atlanta area to Mr. Cooney. You may have to wait in a rather long
>line to get paid...

yes, the jellybeans were definitely flowing into Mr. Cooney's pocket
on that one. But it was a helluva match to drop by and watch. =)

John Walkup

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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Wadesvilla00 wrote:
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> DO NOT LEND THIS MAN MONEY, HE OWES ALOT OF PEOPLE IN HOUSTON AND AUSTIN TX,
> THERE IS A REWARD FOR INFO ON HIM. LAST SEEN IN KANSAS CITY.

So how does this separate him from most other pool players? :)

--
John

John Walkup

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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JoeyA wrote:
>
> I lent him $40.00 and he paid me back within 6 months and I only had to ask
> once.

You're not doing Cliff Joyner's reputation any good here.

--
John

Michael Chesser

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I have to agree that it really doesn't make much sense to complain too much
about not getting paid back by a traveling pool player. I know how it feels
though, to the tune of $50, which I lent to Larry Price. I saw Larry in
Atlanta, and operating on the theory that the best defense is a good
offense, the first thing he asked me for was to lend him $90 more. Cliff
Joyner is a great pool player, and I think you have to admire these guys for
their pool playing ability, and not expect too much of them in other areas
such as higher mathematics and paying back debts. By the way, who is the
"Mr. Cooney" that Cliff apparently had a money match with in Atlanta? I saw
Immonen give Cliff a pool lesson, but I didn't know there was anyone else
there who could wax him.

Michael Chesser
Aiken, SC
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Tom Bellhouse

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On Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:36:01 -0500, "Michael Chesser"
<mche...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> By the way, who is the
>"Mr. Cooney" that Cliff apparently had a money match with in Atlanta? I saw
>Immonen give Cliff a pool lesson, but I didn't know there was anyone else
>there who could wax him.

Jack Cooney is an excellent one-pocket player and an even better
gambler. He keeps a book on everybody, knows what he needs to win,
and is very patient. I would love to have the opportunity and cash to
play him sometime, along with the talent I'd need to keep up. Joey
has probably seen Jack's game fairly often.

Times like this, I wish I was back 70 miles from Mr Cue #2! Maybe
they'll still be there this summer...

Best regards,

Tom Bellhouse
Brunssum, NL

Michael Chesser

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It was Friday night, February 18th, at Mr. Cue's II in Atlanta. They had
finished the 1-pocket tournament earlier, and Cliff Joyner had beaten Larry
Price to win first place. I don't know if Immonen played in the 1-pocket
tournament. Sitting down in the sort of elevated viewing area with tables
that they have near the bar at Mr. Cue's II, I looked over and saw Joyner
and Immonen playing 9 ball on the far side away from us. I recognized
Immonen from earlier Camel events. Unfortunately I don't have any details,
I could just see Immonen pocketing balls like a machine and Joyner racking.
My friend who was to play in the 9 ball tournament knew Joyner as what he
calls a "champion", I didn't know Joyner at the time. The next morning I
bet my three spectator friends $20 each that Immonen would come in 1st,
Immonen against the field, which of course I won. But I also bet each of
them $10 that Ben Deutsch would come in 2nd, which was not a good bet.
Sitting at that same primo table, we watched Immonen in several matches. He
is awesome.

Michael Chesser
Aiken, SC
<mja...@NOSPAMcc.hut.fi> wrote in message news:89usrt$slb$2...@nntp.hut.fi...
> Michael Chesser <mche...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> : "Mr. Cooney" that Cliff apparently had a money match with in Atlanta? I


saw
> : Immonen give Cliff a pool lesson, but I didn't know there was anyone
else
> : there who could wax him.
>

> Could you tell me more about the match between Immonen and Cliff ?
> How much money was involved and did the have a long session and maybe
> some scores... Uh, also where did this happen ?
> You can send the info by email if you want... (remove NOSPAM)
>
> Regards,
> Mikko Jantti
> Espoo, Finland
> http://www.hut.fi/u/mjantti/

mja...@nospamcc.hut.fi

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John Walkup

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Michael Chesser wrote:
>
> I have to agree that it really doesn't make much sense to complain too much
> about not getting paid back by a traveling pool player. I know how it feels
> though, to the tune of $50, which I lent to Larry Price. I saw Larry in
> Atlanta, and operating on the theory that the best defense is a good
> offense, the first thing he asked me for was to lend him $90 more. Cliff
> Joyner is a great pool player, and I think you have to admire these guys for
> their pool playing ability, and not expect too much of them in other areas
> such as higher mathematics and paying back debts.

Of what worth is someone who cannot be trusted to pay back his
debts? This isn't just a minor character flaw.

--
John

JoeyA

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Mar 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/6/00
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OK. I only saw him once after I lent him the money.
Is that better?
JoeyA

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JoeyA

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If you play Cliff Joyner pocket billiards, you can be guaranteed of three
things.
1. You will be playing one of the best pool players in the world.
2. You will be playing someone who will teach you by example what a real
competitor is.
3. Cliff will not shark you.

That is more than you get from many top pool players. So from my point of
view, there is great value in Cliff Joyner.
Just remember the old saying, "A fool and his money are soon departed".

JoeyA

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<Of what worth is someone who cannot be trusted to pay back his
> debts? This isn't just a minor character flaw.

> John

John Walkup

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JoeyA wrote:
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> Just remember the old saying, "A fool and his money are soon departed".

Yeah, and how much money does Cliff have? It sounds as if Cliff and
his money have parted on many occassions.


--
John

GaryR

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 18:34:52 GMT, John Walkup <cue...@telepath.com>
wrote:

ouch!

lol

-GaryR


JoeyA

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Who is the biggest fool?
The lender who lends to someone who manages money poorly.
Or the lendee who can't hold onto earned or borrowed money.
JoeyA
P.S. Besides, is it really only about the money?

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> JoeyA wrote:
> >
> > Just remember the old saying, "A fool and his money are soon departed".
>
> Yeah, and how much money does Cliff have? It sounds as if Cliff and
> his money have parted on many occassions.
>
>

> --
> John

lfigueroa

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Mar 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/7/00
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Nooooooooooooo. Not Cliff's money. Cliff's backer's money.

Lou Figueroa

John Walkup

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JoeyA wrote:
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> Who is the biggest fool?
> The lender who lends to someone who manages money poorly.

That would be you.

> Or the lendee who can't hold onto earned or borrowed money.

That would be Cliff.

I honestly don't know the answer to that question.

> JoeyA
> P.S. Besides, is it really only about the money?

Uhhhh, yeah.

--
John

John Walkup

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lfigueroa wrote:
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> Nooooooooooooo. Not Cliff's money. Cliff's backer's money.

I forgot. In order for Cliff to part with his money he must
have money in the first place.

I love this idea of a backer. A backer, IMO, has to be the
biggest sucker of all. What kind of deal is that? "Gee, if I put
up a thousand bucks and win, I win $500." A person placing a side
bet would win $1000. DOH!

How pool players manage to talk people into backing them I have
no idea.

--
John

Mike Gralnick

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Mar 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/7/00
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It reminds me of the Consultant. A consultant is a guy that borrows your
watch to tell you what time it is and then sells it back to you. Somehow
you are getting screwed, but you are not always sure how. Same deal with a
backer.

--
----------------
Mike Gralnick
Cuephoria Cue Collection
http://customcues.bizland.com/
Buy, Sell, Trade and Find Custom Cues.
--


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demonrho

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Mar 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/8/00
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John Walkup wrote:

> Of what worth is someone who cannot be trusted to pay back his
> debts? This isn't just a minor character flaw.

Then Mozart must be worthless also.

demonrho


ProPoool

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Mar 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/8/00
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The player will not always receive half.It's not un-common for the backer to
take 75% of the score.

John Walkup

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Yeah, to those he borrowed money from he was probably worthless.

Are you saying that Mozart borrowed money he didn't pay back?
What a scumbag.

--
John (Doesn't like Mozart anyway.)

John Walkup

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ProPoool wrote:
>
> The player will not always receive half.It's not un-common for the backer to
> take 75% of the score.

It's still a bad bet. Compared to this bet, playing in a casino
is a sure-thing.


--
John

demonrho

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Mar 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/11/00
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John Walkup wrote:

> Are you saying that Mozart borrowed money he didn't pay back?
> What a scumbag.

What a prissy little world you would have us live in.

demonrho ;-)


Smorgass Bored

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Who is the biggest fool?
The lender who lends to someone who manages money poorly. Or the lendee
who can't hold onto earned or borrowed money. JoeyA

(*<~ Well, I'd say," you da fool "..... Now, gimme some MONEY !!!!!

Doug
~>*(((>< Big fish eat Little fish ><)))*<~




John Walkup

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Wouldn't that world just suck? Imagine, borrowing money and being
expected to pay it back.

PS: I'm not loaning you any money.

--
John

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