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2003 Capone Cue - NO RESERVE!!!

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Mike L.

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Apr 7, 2003, 12:32:12 AM4/7/03
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For all you Capone fans!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3602928994&ssPageName=ADM
E:B:LC:US:1

Thanks for looking!

Mike L.


Jimbo Ct

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Apr 7, 2003, 3:15:22 AM4/7/03
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Let's see it's the best cue you've ever hit with, except you just got it last
month and you want to sell it and you don't take checks??????


Jim <---This guy's a winner

Mike L.

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Apr 7, 2003, 9:47:42 AM4/7/03
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Yeah, I got a basic cue to try out the hit and balance, then ordered a much
fancier one since it DOES play so great. A lot of eBayer's don't take
checks since they take a week to clear.

Mike <--- Thinks Jim is an idiot, and I'm sure I'm not alone...


Mathew Hilton

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Apr 7, 2003, 10:21:11 AM4/7/03
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Make sure you post a cue report on the fancier cue when you get it. I'd
really like know how it plays before I buy it on ebay!

Mathew M. Hilton
mhi...@charter.net

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Mike L.

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Apr 7, 2003, 11:36:13 AM4/7/03
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"Mathew Hilton" wrote in message

> Make sure you post a cue report on the fancier cue when you get it. I'd
> really like know how it plays before I buy it on ebay!

Wow... This must be "Jerk-Off" day on RSB.

Not that I care what morons like these 2 think, but for those of you who
might like to pick up a plain, but very nice playing cue, here's a brief
explanation of why this bacote cue is up for sale.

Mike Capone cores his cues, so they are among the most consistent playing
cues out there. A lot of people I have talked to play with, and absolutely
LOVE his cues. Now I didn't want to take a HUGE risk by ordering a $2,000+
cue right off the bat, just in case I didn't like the way they played, since
"Play" is such a subjective term. After talking to Mike, he did confirm
that yes, all his cues play the same so this would be a good way to test a
cue before ordering the one I really wanted (see link below). I even told
him about my plans of using this as a "Test Cue", and he was fine with that.
This way I wasn't "Stuck" for a lot of $$$.

After receiving this cue, I was absolutely stunned at the quality of his
work. His finish is like glass, and the wood he picked out is absolutely
GORGEOUS! After playing with it for a while, I was hooked, and felt
absolutely confident that the next cue I ordered would be everything I had
ever wanted in a cue. Not to mention this next one will be real a
head-turner!

The bacote cue is just TOO nice to be used as a break cue, so I'm putting it
up for sale. As to what Mike will be making for me, well... It will look
very similar to this one....

http://www.exoticcues.com/capone/capone_3_custom_pool_cue.htm

ML

John Barton

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Apr 7, 2003, 11:56:23 AM4/7/03
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Don't worry about it Mike. You're just a "salesman" so your experience and
opinion don't mean anything. In Jimmy's world if you are the seller you are
a piece of crap and everything you say is a lie contrived only to sell the
product. How dare you try to pass off that KC cue as a Capone, AND you
don't take checks! Worthless.

:-))

John


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>


--

"I think Jack Justis makes the finest built cases in the world bar none, my
choice if I were buying a new case would be a Justis case. Hand crafted in
the
USA, buy American.

Chas Clements is a brown nosing pompous over priced sellout.

John Collins/Barton
Instroke Cases"


Vlad

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Apr 8, 2003, 12:07:29 AM4/8/03
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> The bacote cue is just TOO nice to be used as a break cue, so I'm putting it
> up for sale. As to what Mike will be making for me, well... It will look
> very similar to this one....
>
> http://www.exoticcues.com/capone/capone_3_custom_pool_cue.htm

Great cue, play and looks. Like mine but I have an ebony forearm.
The ring tail lizard is really a great wrap. I liked my fancy one so
much, I ordered a simple one! ;o) Vlad

Gerd Junker

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Apr 8, 2003, 6:56:05 AM4/8/03
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i惴 in contact with mike for a couple of month now and he really knows
a lot about cues. you can愒 go wrong with mike.

.........gerd

Jimbo Ct

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Apr 9, 2003, 5:41:06 PM4/9/03
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John Barton saz: >I think Jack Justis makes the finest built cases in the world

bar none, my
>choice if I were buying a new case would be a Justis case. Hand crafted in
>the
>USA, buy American.
>
>Chas Clements is a brown nosing pompous over priced sellout.

True you are john, he is "JUST" a salesman, because if he was a pool player
he'd never sell a cue that was "the best hitting cue he's ever used" unless he
had another that was Better then the best ever. Fact is he must be a fool to
believe that every cue from a certain maker (no matter who it is) hits the
same. I think Mike makes a nice cue, if the story is true I wish him all the
luck in the world, but not accepting checks is just stupid, Im won't bid on an
auction if I can't send a check. I don't see a problem with waiting a week for
it to clear, how would that be a bad thing? The seller incures no more risk by
taking a check and it's no more work. I'm not sure how it makes any sense, but
I'm sure you'll come up with something and then Chas will agree 100% with you
on it.

Jim<---Nice to see John is out of hiding


CovadNews

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Apr 9, 2003, 6:22:38 PM4/9/03
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"Jimbo Ct" <jim...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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>... The seller incures no more risk by taking a check and it's no more
work.

Well, actually, he does. The seller is at risk for the $25 to $50 fee his
own bank charges him if the check bounces. It's happened to me twice on eBay
sales. I don't take checks any more, except on big-ticket items for which
I've received a money order deposit which covers the potential bounce fee.

-- Larry

Mike L.

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Apr 9, 2003, 7:36:52 PM4/9/03
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Jim,
You are an idiot. I don't think anyone will argue with that. The fact that
you know nothing about eBay, is also evident.

I have already explained why I'm selling the cue (and getting another from
the SAME maker), and why I, and a lot of others on eBay, don't take checks.
I don't know if it's the amount of inbreeding in your family that doesn't
allow you to see the obvious, but whatever it is, it's just sad.

It's unfortunate that morons like Jim ruin an otherwise good newsgroup.

Mike L.


Jimbo Ct

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Apr 9, 2003, 7:42:51 PM4/9/03
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Larry: >I don't take checks any more, except on big-ticket items for which

>I've received a money order deposit

Do what you like, but know that you take out about 30% of your customer base.
Fact is the buyer takes a huge risk sending a MO, if you've ever lost one you'd
know that it's a huge pain in the ass to put a stop pay on it or do all the
things that you can do with a check. Not to mention a check gives the buyer a
link to the seller if he gets screwed, again trying to get the info from a MO
is a pain in the ass I've had very bad experiences with them.

Jim <---Might as well send cash

MDavis0007

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Apr 9, 2003, 7:52:17 PM4/9/03
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I do a little bit of buying and selling on ebay and i have to agree with Jimbo
on this one. I often wont bid if someone wont take a check. Why several
reasons. One if they say it hasnt shown up yet ot its lost its a heck of a lot
easier to check and see when it was cashed if its a personal check. Two if it
is indeed lost it can take months to get your money refunded to you and thats
if it was never cashed.

The bottem line is simple the seller sets the rules and can dictate anything
he wants. IMHO you limit your market when you put restrictions on how people
can pay.

Mark-n-Torrance

Mike L.

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Apr 9, 2003, 8:07:50 PM4/9/03
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> I do a little bit of buying and selling on ebay and i have to agree with
Jimbo
> on this one. I often wont bid if someone wont take a check.

Mark,

OK, you win. I have changed the auction to allow for checks on this, and
future, cues I sell. I did put on there that the checks will be held for 10
business days to allow them to clear.

Also, since this is the other part that seems to have everybody's panties in
a bunch, I changed the wording to "One of the best playing cues". Hopefully
that will make everybody happy, too.

Again folks, I'm not trying to lie or mislead anyone here. I'm just selling
a plain cue at a good price to make room for a nicer cue from the same
maker. I know my character is not in question, and if it is please check my
feedback. I am not a "Salesman", a cue-addict maybe, but definitely NOT a
salesman!!!

Mike L.


Jimbo Ct

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Apr 9, 2003, 8:26:06 PM4/9/03
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Mike L: > I have changed the auction to allow for checks on this, and
>future, cues

You pussy, I can't believe you changed because of an idiot and a moron like me.
You can claim I don't know anything about e-bay but I've been on there since it
started and I know what I know, I was there before the thousands of people
wrecked it by starting online stores and drop shipping and over charging for
S&H. I was on e-bay back when it was good. The fact is your nothing but a
salesman, if you feel putting anything about that cue and how it hits is going
to help you sell it your a fool. People who know about Mikes cues will bid and
buy that cue, they have already made up their minds. Shit every $25 cue on
e-bay says it hits good. If you want to make money on e-bay put up good
detailed pictures (not Ipix) and a good discription and let the product sell
itself, if you want to be a salesman rant on and on about how great it looks
and hits.

Jim <---Idiot

Mike L.

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Apr 10, 2003, 12:57:24 AM4/10/03
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No moron, I didn't change because of YOU. I decided to change the auction
to accept checks since the people that cared enough to post here (like Mark)
brought up a valid point about accepting checks AND because they didn't mind
the extra wait while their check cleared. That's the main reason I only
wanted to take cashier's checks or money orders to begin with. If somebody
buys something, they usually don't want to wait another 2 weeks to get it.

As for the hit of the cue, I think I've tried more than enough cues
(probably one for every episode of Star Trek you've watched still living at
home like you do) to know a good one from a bad one. Even as subjective as
the word hit is, a good cue does have a solid hit that anyone can
appreciate. I did, however, want to change the wording to be more accurate
since I still have not tried every cue on this planet. I also did NOT want
to sound like the salesman that you claim I am. In my opinion Mike's cues
do play great, but no, the cue is not a "Magic Wand" that will transform a
"C" player into an "A" player overnight. Yes, I agree there are some people
who abuse the term "Plays great" with shit cues, but come on, this is
obviously not the case here. The bottom line is that I think it plays great
(and so does Mika Immonen or HE would be playing with something else, too).
No, words are not going to sell that cue, or any other cue, but the fact
remains that nothing I have said about it (in the ad OR on this forum) is
false in any way, shape or form.

Mike L. <--- Wishes Jim would get a life....


Jimbo Ct

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Apr 10, 2003, 3:14:25 AM4/10/03
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Mike L: >As for the hit of the cue, I think I've tried more than enough cues

>(probably one for every episode of Star Trek you've watched

I've watched a ton of Star trek, so I doubt it, but I'd bet I hit with about 5
cues to every one you've hit with so know that we are talking apples to apples
what's the bet? Fact is Mike you're track record shows you like to buy a cue
turn around and e-bay it and call a great hitting cue and move on. Looking back
at some of your ventures I'm amazed at how many "great hitting" cues you've
owned and sold, I would think you got a few bads ones in the bunch and decided
to sell, but I guess the truth wouldn't help sales any.
You can hate me all you want and call me names and give the credit to who ever
you want, but your actions just prove that you know I was right and you'll have
to live with those facts.

Jim <---looking for a life

Sean

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Apr 10, 2003, 8:34:29 AM4/10/03
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"The bottom line is that I think it plays great and so does Mika

Immonen or HE would be playing with something else, too)."

FYI.....I believe Mika is currently playing with a fancy Cognoscenti
that we recently sold him. To my knowledge he's no longer playing
with one of Mike's cues.

Best of luck with your auction.

Sean Brown
www.cueaddicts.com

Mike L.

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Apr 10, 2003, 11:19:25 AM4/10/03
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"Jimbo Ct" Fact is Mike you're track record shows you like to buy a cue
turn around and e-bay it and call a great hitting cue and move on...

Here's where you blew it pal. First of all, I've only sold 2 or 3 cues on
eBay that I've actually played with, and said they played great. Guess
which one I liked the best? Yep, the Capone - no contest. I do buy and
sell cues strictly for resale value, and I can name you about a dozen people
off the top of my head that do the same. These are what the majority of my
auctions are for -cues that are in unchalked, brand new condition. I have
tried a lot of cues, and some of the ones from the same maker did NOT, in my
opinion, play worth a crap. It didn't matter though, since I was not buying
the cue for ME. Even some of the cues I have sold will never hit a ball, as
they went into a collection just to be admired.

Sean, thanks for the info on Mikka. I had no idea, and I would bet that a
lot of people didn't, either. One thing though, Cog's are very collectible.
Are you sure Mikka bought the cue to play with, or did he just like it?
Have you confirmed that he is actually playing with the cue???

Mike L.


Jimbo Ct

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Apr 10, 2003, 3:14:25 PM4/10/03
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Mike L. : >Here's where you blew it pal. First of all, I've only sold 2 or 3


cues on
>eBay that I've actually played with, and said they played great.

Yeah 2 or 3 played great, the rest you didn't hit with so saying they played
great didn't fit with the unchalked line in your sales pitch. I guess I blew
it.

Mike: >Guess


>which one I liked the best? Yep, the Capone - no contest.

Just because it was the last one, I'm sure the next one will once again be the
best one ever. Till the next one...

Mike: >One thing though, Cog's are very collectible.


>Are you sure Mikka bought the cue to play with

Once again you show what you don't know. Sure cogs are expensive and look nice,
but when you talk to anyone who KNOWS anything the first thing that comes up is
how great cognoscenti's hit. They are one of the best hitting cues made and
extremely consistent, I'm sure he'd play with it since it's a step up in hit to
a Capone.

Jim <----Get back to your Star Trek marathon Mikey.


Mike L.

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Apr 10, 2003, 4:28:56 PM4/10/03
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"Jimbo Ct" >Yeah 2 or 3 played great, the rest you didn't hit with so saying

they played great didn't fit with the unchalked line in your sales pitch.

Now you're not even paying attention, so this isn't even fun anymore. I
said that even though I didn't play with those cues I sold, I HAVE played
with cues from the same makers, and thought they played like crap. Again,
it didn't matter since I wasn't buying these cues to play with, like I was
with the Capone.

> Mike: >Guess which one I liked the best? Yep, the Capone - no contest.

> Jimbo Ct - Just because it was the last one, I'm sure the next one will


once again be the best one ever. Till the next one...

This is funny, too. Now I admit I am fickle in that I am not a die hard
loyalist to ANY cuemaker or cue. I just play with the cue that I think has
the best hit and feel. The Capone was not the last one I tried, but it was
the best of any cue I've found SO FAR. Will I keep trying new ones? You
bet! It doesn't mean they are going to be my new playing cue though. I
just really like to try different cues.

> Mike: One thing though, Cog's are very collectible. Are you sure Mikka

bought the cue to play with?
Jimbo Ct> Once again you show what you don't know. Sure cogs are expensive


and look nice, but when you talk to anyone who KNOWS anything the first
thing that comes up is how great cognoscenti's hit. They are one of the best
hitting cues made and extremely consistent, I'm sure he'd play with it since
it's a step up in hit to a Capone.

LOL!!! This show's that your parents are living proof that you should never
sleep with your sister no matter how good looking she is!!! Now I will
agree with you that Cogs do play well, but I wasn't disputing that fact. I
was just saying that the high end ones (I've seen them as high as 50K) are
VERY collectable, especially overseas. Joey G. does do some nice work, I'll
give him that! Now I think they play nice, and YOU think they play nice,
but someone who prefers a steel jointed cue might think they play like crap.
Are we wrong, or are they?


Since, this is nothing but a waste of my time arguing with you, this will be
my last post on this subject. I will say this though - I think we are
looking at 2 sides of the same coin. I like to play with the cue I think
plays the best, and you like to play with the one you think plays the best.
Will others agree that they play great? Maybe, or maybe not. I think we
both probably have enough experience to reconize a solid hitting cue from a
dud, but it really is a matter of preference. The other side of the coin
that I was talking about was that some people just like to collect cues, and
have no concern for what they actually play like. They just appreciate
their beauty. I don't fully understand it, as I think the best part of
owning a cue is in using it.

But hey, what do I know... I'm just a salesman!

Mike L. <--- Going back to the used car lot AFTER the Star Trek marathon...


ted harris

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Apr 11, 2003, 12:05:15 AM4/11/03
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Mike L. wrote;

> Are you sure Mikka bought the cue to play with, or did he just like it?
> Have you confirmed that he is actually playing with the cue???
>
> Mike L.

Of course he plays with it, and so does Troy Frank. Mika won the WPA World
Pool Championships with it two years ago.
--
Ted Harris
http://www.tedharris.com
(remove "NOJUNK" from email address listed to reply)

Hugh(LCS)

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Apr 10, 2003, 10:58:00 PM4/10/03
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Mike..you're his new toy...he has grown weary of hank and willee, and you
happened to come along!! ride the storm out fella..he's all heart

Hugh Arnold
"LCS"

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Lou

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Apr 23, 2003, 1:45:27 AM4/23/03
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"Mike L." <bmi...@nospambis.midco.net> wrote in message
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>
> Mike Capone cores his cues, so they are among the most consistent playing
> cues out there. A lot of people I have talked to play with, and
absolutely
> LOVE his cues ... After receiving this cue, I was absolutely stunned at

the quality of his
> work. His finish is like glass, and the wood he picked out is absolutely
> GORGEOUS!

I've heard nothing but rave reviews of Capone Cues, and they're among the
nicest looking I've seen. His plain janes always blow me away; discreet in
every way, but stunning. Maybe I'll talk to him about a zebrawood plain
jane I've been thinking about.


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