Robin Dodson's comment on Karen Corr's stance
J Dub
commenting on Karen's & Alison's almost straight on stance. Robin said that
while most people don't get it (I missed up to this part of her comment),
"that once Karen taught her a key part of the stance, that it has improved
Robin's game by 30%". This was said around the 5-1 or 6-1 point in the
match.
Now, first off I'd like to believe that if anybody got that kind of
improvement that either they'd be singing it from the rooftops or selling
it. Robin was doing neither. But more importantly in my mind is "What
'thing' could Karen have showed her that would make that kind of
difference?" Any ideas, anybody? Did anybody else catch this statement and
can correctly repeat what was said and what she meant?
--Jim
Jetep
I heard the comment but I don't think there was enough detail last night to
make anything out of it. On other broadcasts I have picked up that she always
walks "straight into the shot" rather than comes up on it from the side as many
do. By that I think she is saying to step back from the table and pick the
line of the cue ball, then follow it straight in and settle into the stance.
Good luck,
Pete
Ninebal310
>walks "straight into the shot" rather than comes up on it from the side as
>many
>do. By that I think she is saying to step back from the table and pick the
>line of the cue ball, then follow it straight in and settle into the stance.
>
>Good luck,
>
>Pete
>
I am not an instructor, but from what I have seen, the first thing I would
teach most people (women mostly) is their stance.
Hustlin' Hank
jim...@my-deja.com
she always
> walks "straight into the shot" rather than comes up on it from the
side as many
> do. By that I think she is saying to step back from the table and
pick the
> line of the cue ball, then follow it straight in and settle into the
stance.
>
There's a snooker player here in St. Louis that steps back from the
table about 3 or 4 steps. He then walks straight toward the shot, bends
down, strokes, and fires. He does this on every shot. He is quite
remarkable on his shoots. I tried it, and can see some merit in it, but
I don't think it's for me.
--JIM BUSS--
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Bob Johnson
Karen had worked with her on squaring her stance. While she didn't quantify
it, Dawn expressed her amazement at the improvement it made in her game.
--
Bob Johnson, Denver, Co.
Home of the 1997/1998 World Champion Broncos!
bo...@cris.com
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Steve Gustafson
'Jetep' is right-not any explanation at all.
Transcript-
Mitch- "Karen Corr at the table and another look at that stance,
so solidly on the ground with the rest of her game following now."
Robin Dodson- "Karen not too long ago, she showed me something on
the stance they use and I've been using it and it has definitely improved my
game at least 30%. It's amazing what that stance will do for you."
Mitch- "Like any sport, you talk about a good foundation and she...of
course I'm sure that she helped you...that's the thing that amazes me
'cause I watch all the women on tour,incredibly competitive out here.
There's alot of commraderie and alot of spirit of helping back and forth and
I love that."
That's it-no info -just talk!!
I studied Carr's stance for the short moment it was on the tape and it looks
like the 'both legs straight' stance as described in the Fundamental
chapter in Phil Capelle's book(bible) 'Play Your Best Pool'. But that
doesn't explain what that "something" Karen showed Robin was about the
stance.
I'm going to switch to that stance and see how it feels.
Good luck,Jim.
Steve
Otto
get used to and my hamstrings were sore for a while but it is now second
nature. Straight legs are part of it but the biggie is to be open. Square to
the shot. Or at least as square as you can be and still be comfortable.
Believe me, if you are used to a traditional stance and you open up and
straighten your legs and get down on the ball so your cue is riding against
you chest, you will be sore at first. It goes away. Once you get used to it
and get comfortable you won't go back because everything else seems
unstable.
Does it help my game? I'm too new to know. I do know that my fundamentals
are more solid now than they were before lessons.
Otto
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Trevor Justinen
described I couldn't get the cue around my fabulous beer gut.
Trevor - me, beer, pool a perfect 3some.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 10/17/00, 3:05:50 PM, "Otto" <nospamOtt...@worldnet.att.net> wrote
regarding Re: Robin Dodson's comment on Karen Corr's stance:
Ron Shepard
>like the 'both legs straight' stance as described in the Fundamental
>chapter in Phil Capelle's book(bible) 'Play Your Best Pool'.
This is the third or fourth time that someone has said lately that the snooker
stance used by Corr and Fisher involves keeping their legs straight. When I
watch them play, I don't see straight legs. What I see is a fairly square
stance, with the rear leg (or what would be the rear leg) bent and the knee
turned inward. Line Kjoersvik is another example, although she sometimes bends
BOTH knees, not just the rear one.
The "normal" pool stance is less square, meaning that the front foot is farther
ahead of the rear foot, the back leg is straight (although the knee joint may
not be locked tight, mine isn't), and the front leg is either straight or bent
(usually depending on how tall is the player).
When I experiment with a square stance, I find that my rear hand brushes
against my hip, causing problems with a straight stroke. I think that is why
the snooker players bend in their knee, to try to get the hip out of the way of
their grip hand. Maybe my legs are too long or something, but I can't get my
hip out of the way comfortably by just bending in my rear knee. It is easier
for me just to rotate my hips around a couple of inches, away from the stick,
move my front foot forward a little, and adopt a "normal" pool stance. Of
course, it could be an "old dog, new trick" issue with me.
$.02 -Ron Shepard
Otto
I had the hip problem at first but have eliminated that by being ever so
slightly closed. Much more open than the traditional stance but I had to
make a slight adjustment.
Again, the stance thing is very personal. Every one has a different body
design and we all have to find what is comfortable. The big question here is
can we make our current 'traditional' stance more stable by opening up.
Everyone has to try it to find out. Occasionally I have to revert to a
traditional stance due to a jack up for obstructing balls and I feel
unstable as all get out. For me at this point in my development the
traditional stance feels very wobbly.
For the old dogs it may not be worth it.
Otto-- I was taught it with a relatively clean slate(Brazilian that
is--sorry, that is another thread)
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lfigueroa
degree or another. After all, there have been and are players that can run
more balls jacked up one handed than many amateur players playing with both
paws. In the case of most players, who never receive any formal training,
they just find what feels natural and work with that for the rest of their
pool playing careers. The more adventuresome players, particularly those
into cycling through alternating bouts of humiliation, depression and
occasional ecstasy, experiment with a variety of techniques, stances, and
other assorted adjustments, searching for that perfect combination.
I think a snooker stance can be a good thing for many players. It will at
least get some thinking about how they're aligning themselves for their
shots instead of just haphazardly plopping themselves down behind the cue
ball.
Lou Figueroa
"Otto" <nospamOtt...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> > I studied Carr's stance for the short moment it was on the tape and it
> looks
> > like the 'both legs straight' stance as described in the Fundamental
Gary Lloyd
match, as I had taped it. So I was paying close attention for the remarks
about Karen's stance. They were indeed made by Dawn Hopkin's when she had
joined Mitch and Robin in the booth for a few minutes. Not truly important
but...
Jim and Cindy
foot on the shot line and then steps the left leg to the left and then bends
over for the shot.
Best regards
Jim
Otto wrote in message ...
WCrimi
the shot like they do. There may be negative offsets just like in many other
areas of mechanics. I am not sure.
Steve Gustafson
I was thinking the same thing(I guess we are both swine!!)but Karen Carr is
large chested and Trevor Justinen mentions the Michelin Man body type. I
tried the stance(not sure if I was doing it right) and found it very
unnatural . I also notinced on the broadcast that Carr's was cue was rubbing
on her chin. That's lower then I get.
Steve
> From: dicks...@aol.com (Dick Schneiders)
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: rec.sport.billiard
> Date: 18 Oct 2000 00:57:59 GMT
> Subject: Re: Robin Dodson's comment on Karen Corr's stance
>
>> This is the third or fourth time that someone has said lately that the
>> snooker
>> stance used by Corr and Fisher involves keeping their legs straight. When I
>> watch them play, I don't see straight legs. What I see is a fairly square
>> stance, with the rear leg (or what would be the rear leg) bent and the knee
>> turned inward. Line Kjoersvik is another example, although she sometimes
>> bends
>> BOTH knees, not just the rear one.
>>
>
> Since all of these players are women, perhaps this squared up stance has more
> to do with breasts and not a snooker background.
>
> Dick (the chauvinist pig) Schneiders
J Dub
"Ron Shepard" <ron...@aol.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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> This is the third or fourth time that someone has said lately that the
snooker
> stance used by Corr and Fisher involves keeping their legs straight. When
I
> watch them play, I don't see straight legs. What I see is a fairly square
> stance, with the rear leg (or what would be the rear leg) bent and the
knee
> turned inward. Line Kjoersvik is another example, although she sometimes
bends
> BOTH knees, not just the rear one.
>
> The "normal" pool stance is less square, meaning that the front foot is
farther
> ahead of the rear foot, the back leg is straight (although the knee joint
may
> not be locked tight, mine isn't), and the front leg is either straight or
bent
> (usually depending on how tall is the player).
I've wondered why the 'snooker' stance is more square to the table. I've
been told it is because the table is so large that they are shooting many
more shots from 2-3 feet away from their body, and with that have to get
close to the table. As such, changing to a square stance is the one they
use most of the time, so using it away from the rail is simply "maintaining
the style".
That said, the key thing I see with the straight stance is that your head is
not cocked to the side during aiming. By the time I take my typical 45
degree open stance, put my dominant eye over the ball and turn my head to
look down the target line, I can pretty much guarantee the world is slightly
skewed. It seems that with a more open stance that my face and vision would
be straighter down the target line.
As far as the width, locked knees, etc., I gotta believe this is personal.
I watched Karen and Alison last night. Karen's stance was wide, Alisson's
was 2/3s that of Karen's. Otto's (whom I had the good fortune of playing
with today) uses a similar stance (and yes Mark, I was looking at it
closely, especially the way you were shooting) is wider than even
Karen's..... the key element is they all seem to get over the stick to the
same level. Then it becomes execution.
I also wonder if it is easier to have a straight stroke (from the elbow)
when your stroke is not crossing your body plane.
Lots of interesting thoughts. Now after I get done trying them, Tom is
going to have to come in and do some repair work.
--Jim
Dick Schneiders
>snooker
>stance used by Corr and Fisher involves keeping their legs straight. When I
>watch them play, I don't see straight legs. What I see is a fairly square
>stance, with the rear leg (or what would be the rear leg) bent and the knee
>turned inward. Line Kjoersvik is another example, although she sometimes
>bends
>BOTH knees, not just the rear one.
>
Since all of these players are women, perhaps this squared up stance has more
Raveloman
Rutherford NJ. Rich is a BCA certified instructor and learned Allison's stance
directly from her. Being 6'1' and 250 lbs I modified it a bit to give me
clearance for the cue.
Stand back from the table square to the line of aim. Line up the outside of
your right foot, and your cue, to the line of aim. Come down onto the shot
flexing the knee of the left foot. You can step your left foot up, perhaps six
inches, if you need to. (Don't if you don't have too.)
For me I modified it by pivoting my right foot slightly inward and stepping my
left leg up into a more pool-like stance.
I feel that the important thing is establish the alignment of stance and aim.
This means that there should be few if any aimimg adjustments necessary after
you are in position for the shot.
This has improved my consistency dramatically and it can do the same for you.
Jerry
Patrick Johnson
>
> ... the key thing I see with the straight stance is that your head is
> not cocked to the side during aiming. By the time I take my typical 45
> degree open stance, put my dominant eye over the ball and turn my head to
> look down the target line, I can pretty much guarantee the world is slightly
> skewed. It seems that with a more open stance that my face and vision would
> be straighter down the target line.
This is true for me, and it's much more comfortable for my neck and
shoulders to not have to turn my head so much to look along the stick
(as you do in a more "closed" stance). But the open stance has its
drawbacks, too...
> I also wonder if it is easier to have a straight stroke (from the elbow)
> when your stroke is not crossing your body plane.
Ah, there's the rub. I've found that this is one of the most
important pieces of the puzzle, and that having it just right makes a
huge difference in the straightness of my stroke and in the ease with
which I get power. Unfortunately, for me the open stance works
against this. The best way for me to get my elbow hinging correctly
is to get it away from my body like with the closed stance so my
forearm can hang straight down and I can still get the stick under my
eye -- but that's too uncomfortable, so I have to compromise. The
tradeoffs for me are:
CLOSED STANCE
Elbow/forearm works correctly but head turned too far and picture
"skewed".
OPEN STANCE
Head comfortable and picture straight, but forearm tucked under
(shoulder not over stick) and stroke wobbles.
Oy vey. I've spent the better part of the past several years trying
to fing the right compromise. Some surprising things that have
helped:
1. Raising my shooting arm shoulder. This allows my forearm to hang
straight down and my shoulder, forearm, elbow and stick to be in the
same plane. Unfortunately, this takes more physical effort.
2. Raising my hips (straightening my legs). This gets my chest out
of the way of the stick. Unfortunately, this takes more physical
effort (I'm tall) and has me looking more "down" on the shot.
Everything's a tradeoff, and some days it seems I'm a quivering,
shifting mound of jello trying to find stability with no points of
reference. Which way is up again?
(Better every day, though...)
Pat Johnson
Chicago
Warren Lushia
J Dub wrote:
> Tonight on the WPBA 9 Ball finals (taped at Valley Forge), Robin Dodson was
> commenting on Karen's & Alison's almost straight on stance. Robin said that
> while most people don't get it (I missed up to this part of her comment),
> "that once Karen taught her a key part of the stance, that it has improved
> Robin's game by 30%". This was said around the 5-1 or 6-1 point in the
> match.
minor point -- i'm pretty sure it was dawn hopkins who made that statement when
she visited the booth, not robin dodson.
warren..
J Dub
"Warren Lushia" <wal...@SPAMmeANDdie.pop.uky.edu> wrote in message
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You may be right, I may have got the voices mixed up since the camera was on
the table and they were simply voice-overs.
But I'm also curious, if either Dawn or Robin had a 30% improvement in their
game, shouldn't they be just killing the whole WPBA tour and possibly taking
aim at the men. Seens 30%, when you are already at that level, is a big,
big statement. That is why I was so taken with "what is it?". Is there a
secret out there we are all yearning for and only periodically brush up
against (being in dead stroke) or is this another case of announcer &
marketing hype.... and if so, what are they marketing?
--Jim
>
> warren..
>
Fred Agnir
Ron Shepard wrote in message
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>>I studied Carr's stance for the short moment it was on the tape and it
looks
>>like the 'both legs straight' stance as described in the Fundamental
>>chapter in Phil Capelle's book(bible) 'Play Your Best Pool'.
>
snooker
>stance used by Corr and Fisher involves keeping their legs straight. When
I
>watch them play, I don't see straight legs
This is yet another of example of people just saying things to say. You're
right, Ron. At least one of the legs in their stance is bent. And on many
shots, both of Allison's legs are bent. Allison's stance is so far removed
from the standard "snooker stance", that many snooker players consider her
stance a "pool stance." Contrary to much of this thread's discussion on her
stance, Allison's stance isn't all that square compared to Karen's. It used
to be, but not anymore. Karen's stance has also changed from her first
tournaments in the U.S. to today's tournaments. I suspect that as time goes
on, she'll be less square as well.
Fred
Ron Shepard
>game, shouldn't they be just killing the whole WPBA tour and possibly taking
>aim at the men. Seens 30%, when you are already at that level, is a big,
First, I think you have to take such numbers with a grain of salt. In this
particular case, I don't know, but in general, when someone says "30%" or "50%"
improvement, it really just means that they think it was a significant
improvement. If you look at their TPA, it did not mean necessarily that it
went from .600 to .900 (which is one way of quantifying a 30% absolute
improvement). It could also mean that the number of mistakes was reduced by
30%. That would correspond to going from a .700 to about a .800 TPA, or a .970
to a .980 TPA.
This latter measure, which is more of a relative measure than an absolute
measure, is probably what I would use if I made that kind of statement, but I
would make sure that I had a few hours worth of matches, both before and after
the technique change, and that the numbers really were correct, beforehand. I
doubt that Dawn (or Robin) meant it that literally when they said it.
$.02 -Ron Shepard
Smorgass Bored
what are they marketing?
--Jim
(*<~ shhhhhhssh, it's the shoes,man,the SHOES.....
Doug
~>*(((>< Big fish eat Little fish ><)))*<~
tom simpson
< snipped Pat's excellent observations on open vs. closed
stance, as related to shot alignment >
Here's another good thing to try. I've been using this a lot
the past few months. It's slows me down some, so I tend to use
it only on difficult shots.
Approach the shot in your normal fashion. Before you bend down
into your stance, hold the stick up in front of you like
you're lining up the shot two feet up from the table. In other
words, hold the stick out in front of you while you're in
position to bend down and shoot, and sight your shot alignment
from that position (it will get more accurate when you
actually go down).
The trick to this method is to get the stick out in front of
you in a neutral way (meaning twisting up your body parts as
little as possible), and then actually align the stick to the
shot line by MOVING YOUR FEET. Then, when your stick is in
decent alignment AND your body is neutral, bend down into your
stance and make your micro adjustments and shoot.
This is also a good method for FINDING your own "optimal"
stance angle, ie, where do your feet naturally end up when you
arrange yourself to bend down from neutral?
This has been enlightening for me. I'd sure appreciate hearing
about whether & how it strikes others.
tom simpson
Otto
It's one of the first things I fall back on when the balls stop dropping. It
eliminates the 'hurry' and also eliminates approaching the shot from the
side which seems to be my natural tendency and kills what little accuracy I
have.
Otto
"tom simpson" <tsim...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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lfigueroa
you can get to your optimal stance from there. It could, IMO, even end up
being somewhat misleading. Here's the thing, as I see it and after years of
experimentation: for the average player who is not some savant running a
hundred balls four months after first picking up a cue, getting into
shooting position is a process, an organic whole. What you're doing while
looking at the shot, where you're holding your cue stick as you look, the
motion you use to get into shooting position, at what point you establish
contact between bridge hand and shaft, etc. create a chain reaction of body
mechanics that all end up contributing to what ultimately ends up
constituting your stroke. In other words, I don't think you can "take a
snapshot" and say, "that's what I need to do." It's more like having to do
a motion study, or studying a film clip and emulating that.
One other thing I've found over time is that any time I make a change to my
mechanics that does not feel natural, it eventually breaks down and fails.
If the preshot routine is unnatural, too complicated, or takes to long, for
me at least, it is a change doomed to failure.
Lou Figueroa
"tom simpson" <tsim...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> < snipped Pat's excellent observations on open vs. closed
> stance, as related to shot alignment >
>
>
Fong Chien
and right, but always approach a shot straight on. Well, at least that's
what I learnt from snooker. Whenever I get pissed while playing 9-ball I
tend to forget to do this and it's one of the factors that drag my game
down. (besides being off my face)
jim...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > ====================
> There's a snooker player here in St. Louis that steps back from the
> table about 3 or 4 steps. He then walks straight toward the shot, bends
> down, strokes, and fires. He does this on every shot. He is quite
> remarkable on his shoots. I tried it, and can see some merit in it, but
> I don't think it's for me.
>
--
Chill, man
Fong
Fong Chien
But another thing crossed my mind while reading your post. As men, it is
quite usual that we have to bend over (no pun) more than women as we're
taller. So if you have both legs straight, wouldn't it be harder to get
really low down on the shot, like in snooker? I'm short, so it doesn't
matter, but I imagine it might be for the taller players. I have stuck
to my one-leg-bent stance and it's more comfortable. Do you get any back
pain from using a straight stance?
Otto wrote:
>
> I was taught the Fisher/Corr stance during pool school. It took a while to
> get used to and my hamstrings were sore for a while but it is now second
> nature. Straight legs are part of it but the biggie is to be open. Square to
> the shot. Or at least as square as you can be and still be comfortable.
> Believe me, if you are used to a traditional stance and you open up and
> straighten your legs and get down on the ball so your cue is riding against
> you chest, you will be sore at first. It goes away. Once you get used to it
> and get comfortable you won't go back because everything else seems
> unstable.
>
> Does it help my game? I'm too new to know. I do know that my fundamentals
> are more solid now than they were before lessons.
>
> Otto
--
Chill, man
Fong
Otto
Strangely enough I have had no problems since I started playing more pool.
It seems to limber me up some. I'm sure it will get more difficult to get
down as low as the years go by. Part of the reason I get down as low is to
ride the cue along my upper body. It acts like a guide and stabilizes it.
I use an open stance but not totally square in order to get my hip out of
the way and still allow the arm to hang straight down. My left leg is not
locked straight but my right leg is. My legs are spread more than normal. I
feel stable and comfortable.
Here is some text from my syllabus for pool school.
"The function of the stance is to provide a stable base for the eyes and
body."
"A good stance is balanced and comfortable with little or no movement. Eyes
should be positioned vertically over the line of stroke, such that what is
perceived is accurate."
"As long as you are comfortable, balanced, and can sight along the line of
the cue accurately, then you've got a good stance."
Take it for what it is worth.
Otto
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tom simpson
I of course agree about the process being an organic whole.
And I agree that it should all feel natural. What I'm
suggesting trying is an alignment method that is BASED ON
feeling natural & neutral. I'm saying move your whole body (by
moving your feet) until you feel you are standing neutrally
while able to comfortably see the aim line. When I take this
"natural" approach to stance alignment, I find my stance is a
little more open, and more comfortable. I realized that my
normal, habitual stance angle has me twisted up more than
necessary. My belief is that the less twisting up, the better.
Don't fight yourself.
tom simpson
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:34:08 GMT, "lfigueroa"
<lfig...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
::Tom, I'm sure it's useful and may help some players a lot. But I'm not sure
::
lfigueroa
the less twist is better part. I guess my question would be: what causes
your normal/habitual stance to become twisted?
Lou Figueroa
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Roy & Robin Dodson
I just came on line and saw my name all over the place. WOW, there is
sure allot of talk, but truth has it I, Robin Dodson never did say Karen
helped me with my stance. I don't know if I could get my hips in that
position. And if she did my game improved 30%!? I gotta believe I would have
snapped off a tournament by now. 30% that's huge!
Anyway it's great talkin' with all you die hard pool buffs. It wasn't me
talkin'.
Take care, Robin
MarkO
Mark0
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Warren Lushia
Roy & Robin Dodson wrote:
> Well Hello Everyone,
>
> I just came on line and saw my name all over the place. WOW, there is
> sure allot of talk, but truth has it I, Robin Dodson never did say Karen
> helped me with my stance. I don't know if I could get my hips in that
> position.
i believe myself and a couple of others corrected the original post by saying it
was dawn hopkins who made that claim while visiting the booth towards the end of
the match. i think it was an easy mistake to make, as the player's (yourself
and dawn hopkins) faces were not on the screen at the time, but rather
commenting while the match was being taped.
> And if she did my game improved 30%!? I gotta believe I would have
> snapped off a tournament by now. 30% that's huge!
well, if memory serves me, i think a week before espn (or espn2) had a finals
match between yourself and allison fisher. that is pretty close to snapping one
off! you also attributed your recent success to giving lessons, thereby
indirectly getting back to your own fundamentals. care to comment further?
(btw, i have also felt teaching is helpful for the teacher as well as the
student, no matter the endeavor -- you REALLY have to KNOW something to teach
it, and it forces you to question your own knowledge and actually relearn
things, or learn new things (especially is you have students who ask alot of
questions (a good thing imo))).
warren..
Roy & Robin Dodson
began to question myself on what I was teaching. What I mean is, practice what I
preach! As soon as I started doing what I was teaching my game came right back. And
of course so did my confidence. But I'm struggling again. I just don't play allot of
pool. This last tournament was embarrassing for me. I have one of two choices now,
retire and move onto marketing my product the Frog. Or practice. I just asked a
young up and coming 19 year old girl that I went to the hill with if she would like
to practice 3 days a week from 10-3. Its been along time since I've done that, I'm
usually good for 15 minutes. Anyway, will see what happens I don't think my game is
gone but definitely misplaced! The girls name is Cassie, keep your eyes open for her
she has a great game. When I asked her how much she played she said at least 10
hours a day. I new she would help motivate me and I in turn can help her get over
the fear of players like me.
Take care,
Robin
BaNDiTgrrr
>pool. This last tournament was embarrassing for me.
Robin,
I hope you're not referring to the tourney at the LA Expo. I was there and
caught 2 of your matches. If you think you were struggling, well, I hope to
"struggle" like that someday! Hopefully your practice sessions will bring your
game back to where you feel it needs to be. I personally hope you chose not to
retire. I look forward to watching you play at the next WPBA event I'm able to
attend.
A dedicated fan,
Bandit
J Dub
in the booth with Mitch and Dawn Hopkins. They had voices over the coverage
and I thought it was your voice. Turns out someone who taped the event
later said it was Dawn who made the comment..... but the thread and
discussion lives on with your name attached.
I did have the same question that you addressed, though...... if any pro had
a 30% improvement, wouldn't that escalate them to just about Tiger Woods
status over the field?
--Jim
"Roy & Robin Dodson" <r...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> Well Hello Everyone,
>
> I just came on line and saw my name all over the place. WOW, there is
> sure allot of talk, but truth has it I, Robin Dodson never did say Karen
> helped me with my stance. I don't know if I could get my hips in that
> position. And if she did my game improved 30%!? I gotta believe I would
have
> snapped off a tournament by now. 30% that's huge!