US OPEN
BOBJNES
Who's everybodies favorite to win the open this year? I think its about
time Johnny Archer won.
Jim Meador
BOBJNES wrote:
>
> Who's everybodies favorite to win the open this year? I think its about
> time Johnny Archer won.
There are some PCA player in it this year, I belive including the
"Pearl." I understand it will be the largest field of top players ever.
I'm watching Parica, Strickland, Reyes (of course), and Archer. But a
dark horse wouldn't surprize me in this tournament. Even the heavy
weights feel the pressure of the Open.
Jim Meador
JJustis4
I'd like to see someone young who is just starting out, but more than
likely I'd have to put my money on Luat, the way he's been playing.
Jim Waugh
Roger Griffis, Allen Hopkins, Earl Strickland and CJ Wiley will be
representing the PCA. Try http://www.billiardsdigest.com/ They
went online about a week ago.
jw (Spokane, WA)
POOLSHOTER
In article <19970911184...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
jjus...@aol.com (JJustis4) writes:
>I'd like to see someone young who is just starting out, but more than
>likely I'd have to put my money on Luat, the way he's been playing.
>
>
Underdog would be nice...........................Luat?
Maybe................Parica!! Now that fella's been hittin'em pretty good
lateley
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In article <3418BC...@cuemaster.com>, cuem...@cuemaster.com wrote:
>Jim Meador wrote:
>>
>> BOBJNES wrote:
>> >
>> > Who's everybodies favorite to win the open this year? I think its about
>> > time Johnny Archer won.
>>
>> There are some PCA player in it this year, I belive including the
>> "Pearl." I understand it will be the largest field of top players ever.
How did the issue of free entry for some of the players turn out? As I
understand the original problem, the PCA players were having to pay their
entry fees, while some of the PBT players weren't. Camel, the sponsor of
the event, was trying to show loyalty to the PBT for past support by
waiving entry fees for the top PBT players, and the PCA thought it was
unfair. As a tournament player, I can understand the PCA point of view;
why should they have to pay an entry fee that can be won by someone else,
while these other players don't have to pay an entry fee for you to have a
shot at winning? But I can also see where some kind of show of loyalty
between Camel and past-partner PBT might be appropriate.
I thought the best thing would have been to have the organizations (PBT or
Camel, or whoever) pay the entry fees, but I guess that solution was too
simple.
>Roger Griffis, Allen Hopkins, Earl Strickland and CJ Wiley will be
>representing the PCA. Try http://www.billiardsdigest.com/ They
>went online about a week ago.
I checked here but only saw WPA world championship tournament
information. One thing I noticed is that Allison Fisher is not
representing the WPBA. Does that mean she is not defending, or that she
is representing some other (English?) pool association?
$.02 -Ron Shepard
Aaron Berg
Ron Shepard wrote:
I think the time span for the PBT players hadn't expired before this
free play came about. I think part of the bargain for the PBT players
was the free entries. Since tthe time span hasn't expired, I think it's
more of a commitment rather than a favor.
Aaron
Jimbo
Jim Meador wrote:
>
> BOBJNES wrote:
> >
> > Who's everybodies favorite to win the open this year? I think its about
> > time Johnny Archer won.
>
> There are some PCA player in it this year, I belive including the
> "Pearl." I understand it will be the largest field of top players ever.
>
> dark horse wouldn't surprize me in this tournament. Even the heavy
> weights feel the pressure of the Open.
>
> Jim Meador
Let's not forget the "Rocket" Rodney Morris
BmrScreamr
Efren "Bata" Reyes
Jennifer
Sven Davies
<stuff Clipped> --
> >Roger Griffis, Allen Hopkins, Earl Strickland and CJ Wiley will be
> >representing the PCA. Try http://www.billiardsdigest.com/ They
> >went online about a week ago.
>
> I checked here but only saw WPA world championship tournament
> information. One thing I noticed is that Allison Fisher is not
> representing the WPBA. Does that mean she is not defending, or that she
> is representing some other (English?) pool association?
Yes, Allison Fisher will playing at the WPA World Championships, but
under Englands flag. I am guessing a complete list of participants will
pop up on the new Billiards Digest site sometime before the tournament.
Sven.
sv...@avalon.net
BOBJNES
Efrens been in the finals the last three years.That in itself is a feat
But four in a row would definitly cement is place among pool greats.Plus he
is a helluva nice guy.
Rufus Carter
Alot of people have their favorites but I'm rooting for Two underdogs.
Jerry Prado and Larry Knox.
Just cause I know em and wish them success.
Rufus Carter
Jim Waugh
Ron Shepard wrote:
> >Roger Griffis, Allen Hopkins, Earl Strickland and CJ Wiley will be
> >representing the PCA. Try http://www.billiardsdigest.com/ They
> >went online about a week ago.
>
> I checked here but only saw WPA world championship tournament
> information. One thing I noticed is that Allison Fisher is not
> representing the WPBA. Does that mean she is not defending, or that she
> is representing some other (English?) pool association?
>
> $.02 -Ron Shepard
Only about 20% of their site is up so far. More coming
online each day. It's coming up in sections. Try each
small headline (Black with white text). When each section
is ready, it will become an active link.
Looks like another site is going to make a try at "Chat".
This one will be java coded chat and looks to be ok. Pool
players just don't seem to care much about chat sites. Of
course if we had chat we could argue even faster.
jw (WA)
John
Bruce Berrong is virtually an unknown player in the top ranks, but has
won against several tops pros ... He's the underdog on top
HAK01
This is a complete wild guess, but why not C.J Wiley, when he plays good,
he is hard to beat.
Sherm Adamson
BOBJNES wrote:
>
> Who's everybodies favorite to win the open this year? I think its about
> time Johnny Archer won.
As a rule, I "NEVER BET AGAINST A FILIPINO", but Johnny and Earl are
both "good horses" also.
8^)
Sherm
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Gerard C Blais
After wathing Thursday and Friday, I was impressed by a Cnaadian, Alain
Martel. He defeated Andam, 11-10, in what was obviously a close, but also
exciting matchup. I also met Jim Meador and Pat Stokes -- a real pleasure
for me.
Gerry
OrangeCr9
Everyone is overlooking the future #1 player in the world...
the unbeatable GINKY!!!
NJ Gremlin
Orangecr9 wrote:
>Everyone is overlooking the future #1 player in the world...
>the unbeatable GINKY!!!
Lord, I would LOVE it if Ginky won it.. been following Ginky's "career"
since he was a "B" class player...
Anyone have any news or kknow any way i can check how particular players
are doing or did in the Open? I'd like to know how Al Lapena and Danny
Basavitch did..any info would be appreciated thanx.
Ryan
Jim Barr
In article , snook...@aol.com says...
>
>>From: oran...@aol.com (OrangeCr9)
>>Date: 20 Sep 1997 19:33:51 GMT
>>Message-id: <19970920193...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
>>
>>Everyone is overlooking the future #1 player in the world...
>>the unbeatable GINKY!!!
>>
>>
>>
>
>in cyberpool. . . .
>;O)
>
>(mk)
>http://www.snookerusa.com/rsb_cyberpool.html
Mark!!!!
This is what everyone is getting pissed about! You had absolutely NOTHING to say
that related to this message. It was just another ad for you cyberFool game.
IT DOES GET OLD!!!!
You might want to go ahead and add me to that list with Shem, Hank and JW. You
are going off the deep end.
Jim Barr
SnookerUSA
>From: oran...@aol.com (OrangeCr9)
>Date: 20 Sep 1997 19:33:51 GMT
>Message-id: <19970920193...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
>
>Everyone is overlooking the future #1 player in the world...
>the unbeatable GINKY!!!
>
>
>
I can beat him.
in cyberpool. . . .
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BOBJNES
Basuvitch had to play strickland sometime today to get in the top 8.Archer
got beat by daulton yesterday night.Howard beat varner. No real major
upsets.Lots action at q-masters after and during tourney.Young kid named
alex could be the next efren
Pat Murray
probably the best in Canada. I saw him take off Frankie Hernandez and he
gave Frank the 8.
NJ Gremlin
Bob Jones wrote:
>Basuvitch had to play strickland sometime today to get in the top 8.
WAY TO GO KID DELICIOUS!!!!
Bob, please keep me posted as to Dan's progress. Was he in the
winner's bracket still? Or the one loss side?
And i play Dan with the 6 and out.. damn i'm better than i thought.. LOL
Ryan
Aaron Berg
BOBJNES wrote:
> Basuvitch had to play strickland sometime today to get in the top
> 8.Archer
> got beat by daulton yesterday night.Howard beat varner. No real major
> upsets.Lots action at q-masters after and during tourney.Young kid
> named
> alex could be the next efren
Yes,
That kid Alex was here before the pros showed up for the Treasure Island
tournament in Minnesota. Took money off Wetch and 5000 off a local here
who had the 7-8.
Those "flippy's" play with the mind of a child. They're fascinated with
their control just like everyone who ever picked up a cue and started
learning. I'm not sure if I'm getting my point across but I think we
americans expect our ability. We don't show the same glee when we draw
a cueball, we expect it and move on to the next shot. You watch the
asians play and their eyes are wide with anticipating the shot, I think
the game is more exciting for them than it is for us.
Aaron
Frank Glenn
YES, and he was using a snooker cue (down, Mark) and jumping balls with it.
He was undefeated into the semi-finals. We have not heard the last of him.
Frank
Gerard C Blais <sim...@IDT.NET> wrote in article
<6010q2$t...@nnrp4.farm.idt.net>...
Frank Glenn
Uh, if he is unbeatable, how come he didn't win the open? I'm just curious,
now, not slamming him, but wondering about your post.
Frank
OrangeCr9 <oran...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970920193...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
Jim Meador
Here are the results For the US Open Starting Saturday. Too much work to
include Tuesday - Friday matches. At least for me.
NOTE: Player listed first won. (i.e won/loss)
RESULTS SATURDAY
One Loss Side: 11:30am
Harriman/Townsend
Bollman/Williams
Park/Goodwin
Lining/Wood
Garcia/Archer
Okumura/Howard
Wetch/Incardona
Winner's Side: 1:30pm
Horsfall/Strickland
Parica/Feijen
Daulton/Pierce
Reyes/Hall
One Loss Side: 3:30pm
Bollman/Harriman
Lining/Park
Okumura/Garcia
Takahashi/Wetch
One Loss Side: 7:00pm
Bollman/Feijen
Strickland/Lining
Hall/Okumura
Pierce/Takahashi
Winner's Side: 9:00pm
Horsfall/Parica
Reyes/Daulton
One Loss Side: 9:00pm
Hall/Pierce
Strickland/Bollman
One Loss Side: 11:00pm
Stricklan/Daulton
Parica/Hall
SUNDAY SEMI-FINALS AND FINAL
On Sunday the final four met. Previous wins and losses
were wiped clean, and all players had equal records for
the semis and finals. (TV Coverage created this monster.)
2:00pm Semi Final Match:
Stricklan/Horsfall
4:00pm Semi Final match
Reyes/Parica
7:00pm Finals
Strickland/Reyes
Places:
1) Stricklan (4th US Title)
2) Reyes (4th consecutive year in the finals)
3) Parica
4) Horsfall
Note: I don't know why Parica was listed as third place. Maybe one of
you guys can tell us.
Payout:
1- $25,000
2- $12,000
3-4 $8,000
5-6 $5,500
7-8 $4,000
9-12 $3,000
13-16 $2,500
17-24 $1,750
25-32 $1,000
33-48 $500
Jim Meador
Jim Meador
I was impressed with Shannon Daulton. I believe he will be the man to
beat in 5 years. Won the "Legends of One Pocket" when he was 18 years
old. Another all around pool player.
Jim Meador
Jim Meador
Some US Open Highlights:
180 player ladder - largest field ever - by far.
Played in the new Chesapeake Convention Center. Everybody was freezing.
The sweatshirt & jacket Vendors did well (my guess) because of the
temperatures inside.
Because of the number of players, as soon as a table was free, a match
was started on it. No rest for those of us who TRIED to attend every
session.
Frank Glenn bought a new Jack Justice 3x6 case. I hate him. His Parrot
sticks are beautiful. I wouldn't play him because of his sticks. I can't
beat a man with a pretty stick.
Went to Q-Masters Sunday morning (7:30am) to watch some action. Ginky,
Archer, Coltrain, Tang Ho, Andam, Alex, Watson and others were there
having some "fun". Alex is a real trip. They were tossing quarters at
the foot spot. Alex couldn't lose, although he was giving a large
distance handicap. Yes, there were some good games, but I don't have the
facts (and I wouldn't post them anyway.)
I was impressed with Strickland's victory speech. He admitted to his...
ahhh.. past behavior, but praised the greatness of Reyes saying he was
still 10 matches behind him over the years they have played. I have
never seen Strickland so complimentary to everything and everybody. Earl
said he would not miss another US Open. I believe Earl just might be the
best 9-ball player on tour at this time.
Earl love the crowds and bright lights. Reyes does not. I believe this
made a big difference. Efren loses under the TV lights. Let's face it-
2nd place in 95, 96 and 97 - all finals under the lights and delays of
TV coverage. Maybe I'm making excuses for him because I like his
conduct.
Mackey admitted to past financial problems (why not?). Made a long
speech about unity in the future. Thanked PCA players, etc.
Fantastic International field of players. Canada's boys are good. Watch
out for Chris Wood in the future. Horsfall uses a snooker cue. Weak
break (probably because of snooker background.) Extremely accurate
shooter, but conservative.
Two Russian players. Not too bad either.
I have lots of pictures going on my site from the Open. Great picture of
Earl shouting "FOUR! FOUR!" Also captured the great Reyes smile. Give me
a couple of days.
I just found out why Reyes touches the back of his neck after a bad
shot. He is "wiping the monkey" off his back. A superstition, not a
nervous habit.
Sorry everybody in RSB couldn't be there.
Jim Meador
Jim Meador
Gerard C Blais wrote:
>
> After wathing Thursday and Friday, I was impressed by a Cnaadian, Alain
> Martel. He defeated Andam, 11-10, in what was obviously a close, but also
> exciting matchup. I also met Jim Meador and Pat Stokes -- a real pleasure
> for me.
>
> Gerry
The pleasure was ours Gerry.
Jim & Pat
Michael Krell
>Fantastic International field of players. Canada's boys are good. Watch
>out for Chris Wood in the future. Horsfall uses a snooker cue. Weak
>break (probably because of snooker background.) Extremely accurate
>shooter, but conservative.
As a beginner, I really enjoyed watching Horsfall play. It was a good
lesson in how much can be done within the "limitations" of an open
bridge. Horsfall played like a machine in the early part of his match
against Parica and jumped out to an 8-1 lead. Then the wheels fell
off, and he let Parica all the way back in. He seemed rattled until
Parica tied the match up on the hill. Then he bore down and put
together a good runout to end it. That was a fun match!
Mike
Charlottesville, VA