Joss Cue pin size
Dave Hall
Does anyone know the size and thread for a Joss Cue?
Thanks
Dave
Rick
Esternb wrote:
> The normal size for a Joss East pin is 5/16 14". Joss West...and I'm sure
> that Bill will read this....Hi Bill....., can be 5/16 14 for stell joints and
> piloted ivory and 3/8 10 for flat face ivory.
>
> Eric : )
>
> Eric M. Sternberg
> Sternberg Cues and Repair Service
> Chattanooga, TN.
> (423) 697-9005
I believe Bill (Joss West) sometimes used a different pitch and also used acme
threads from time to time....02
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Rick
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Esternb
Esternb
>acme
>threads from time to time....02
>
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>Rick
>mailto:r9b...@netins.net
>
>Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional!!
Rick,
That is probably true. I have seen some "odd" threads in the last few years.
Most however, are fairly standard. Bill is certainly capable of making some
unique joint options.
Eric
Patrick Tobin - The Cue Prescription
Joss cue type = Bill Stroud...I saw a cue he built for Allen Oliver out of
Atlanta Ga. It had a pin called a RADIAL PIN if I am not mistaken. It is
a very tight fitting pin that goes directly into the wood of a shaft. (Like
most McDermott cues with 3/8-10 pins). I have made a cue with this type of
pin and it works very well.
Patrick Tobin...
www.concentric.net/~cuerx/sneaky.htm
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Dave Hall <dave...@nospamerols.com> wrote in article
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Bill Stroud
Dave Hall <dave...@nospamerols.com> wrote in article
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> Does anyone know the size and thread for a Joss Cue?
> Thanks
> Dave
>
>
I also invented the 3/8"-10 thread that is identified with McDermott,
but quit using it in 1970 because it was a bad idea. You win some and lose
some.
-- Bill Stroud--------"Art is the lie that tells the Truth".-----------
Michael
On Sun, 01 Mar 1998 07:36:16 -0600, Bill Stroud <bi...@cues.com> wrote:
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>I also invented the 3/8"-10 thread that is identified with McDermott, but quit
>using it in 1970 because it was a bad idea. You win some and lose some.
>
>
>--
>Bill Stroud--------"Art is the lie that tells the Truth".-----------
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Bill, why was it a bad idea?
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Michael
Michaelangelo Custom Cues
mi...@rmci.net
Bill Stroud
>I also invented the 3/8"-10 thread that is identified with McDermott, but quit
>using it in 1970 because it was a bad idea. You win some and lose some.
>
>
Bill, why was it a bad idea?
The problem with the 3/8"-10 thread and any similar thread type is in the thread form. When you look at the pin from the side, you can see that the threads a shaped like a pyramid. In the shaft you will find the same shape. This is where the problem lies. The narrow tips of the pyramids of wood in the shaft crumble over time and sometimes are torn off in the making. The result is a lose fit between the shaft and the pin. This fit gradually becomes looser and finaly strips out.
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Michael
Michaelangelo Custom Cues
mi...@rmci.net
-- Bill Stroud--------"Art is the lie that tells the Truth".-----------
Esternb
>The problem with the 3/8"-10 thread and any similar thread type is in the
>thread
>form. When you look at the pin from the side, you can see that the threads a
>shaped like a pyramid. In the shaft you will find the same shape. This is
>where
>the problem lies. The narrow tips of the pyramids of wood in the shaft
>crumble
>over time and sometimes are torn off in the making. The result is a lose fit
>between the shaft and the pin. This fit gradually becomes looser and finaly
>strips
>out.
Bill,
In this case then, what if any pin size would you suggest for a flat faced
typeof joint construction? I assume that the 3/8 11 pin made famous by
Kershenbrock and Jerry Franklin would also be considered to have similar
problem....please correct me if I am wrong.