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John Q

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Jun 19, 2003, 12:32:18 AM6/19/03
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Gotta good laugh out of Vivian Villareal's boastful comments about
playing the men.Could you imagine her back to back against
Bustamante,Reyes,Strickland,etc.She'd get RUN OVER period.
Don't give me that "Men have a better break" bs. If a neutral breaker
broke for each player she'd still not survive.That broad annoys me,
she's on TV stomping around,dragging her cue,and whining.Now in print
too.
ugghhhh!

Tony DeAngelo

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Jun 19, 2003, 3:25:02 AM6/19/03
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I like her!

Mark Maxey

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Jun 19, 2003, 4:07:57 AM6/19/03
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I completely agree. Competing with the men right now is a joke for 99% of
the women on the tour. Allison and Corr are the only ones with any hope.
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Jim Wyant

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Jun 19, 2003, 10:04:32 AM6/19/03
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On 6/19/03 3:25 AM, in article 3EF16551...@adelphia.net, "Tony
DeAngelo" <aj...@adelphia.net> wrote:

> I like her!

The secret's out - Tony is a lesbian stuck in a man's body.

--Jim

9b4me

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Jun 19, 2003, 11:03:44 AM6/19/03
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"Mark Maxey" <h...@aol.com> wrote in message news:<xbeIa.28859$vq.5969@sccrnsc04>...

> I completely agree. Competing with the men right now is a joke for 99% of
> the women on the tour. Allison and Corr are the only ones with any hope.

Vivian Villareal is the worst example of a pool player I've seen on TV
or in person. She talks and comments during her matches which is a
"shark move" IMO. I sent emails to the WPBA board members and
complained about her actions during the TV matches and how it
disrupted her opponents. The replies I got from the WPBA board members
were this "ESPN encourages her to act like she does, ex. - talking
while her opponents are shooting and whistleing when she isn't running
her mouth" I think she is giving pool bad exposure to young up and
coming pool players who may think it's OK to act like that when you
are playing pool! Thanks to Allison Fisher and Karen Corr we don't
see her on TV much anymore.

If anyone thinks she can play with the men they must not have seen the
ESPN Ultimate Challenge men's champion (CJ Whiley) vs the women's
champion (Vivian Villareal) title match a couple of years ago for at
least $50,000. CJ Whiley destoyed her and she ran her mouth the
entire match while CJ was shooting!!

That's my 2 cents.
Jholly

John Q

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Jun 19, 2003, 4:14:11 PM6/19/03
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> The secret's out - Tony is a lesbian stuck in a man's body.
>
> ---Jim

Jim,

How did you know? that's why I love the WPBA there's what a dozen straight
honeys there? maybe two? what a lalapolooza!!!

Love ya,
Tonya>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fantasizes about Viv w/a strap on>>>>>>>>>>

John Q

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Jun 19, 2003, 7:04:49 PM6/19/03
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Vivian Villareal is the worst example of a pool player I've seen on TV
> or in person. She talks and comments during her matches which is a
> "shark move" IMO. I sent emails to the WPBA board members and
> complained about her actions during the TV matches and how it
> disrupted her opponents. The replies I got from the WPBA board members
> were this "ESPN encourages her to act like she does, ex. - talking
> while her opponents are shooting and whistleing when she isn't running
> her mouth" I think she is giving pool bad exposure to young up and
> coming pool players who may think it's OK to act like that when you
> are playing pool! Thanks to Allison Fisher and Karen Corr we don't
> see her on TV much anymore.
>
> If anyone thinks she can play with the men they must not have seen the
> ESPN Ultimate Challenge men's champion (CJ Whiley) vs the women's
> champion (Vivian Villareal) title match a couple of years ago for at
> least $50,000. CJ Whiley destoyed her and she ran her mouth the
> entire match while CJ was shooting!!
>
> That's my 2 cents.
> Jholly
>
I don't know if she disrupts their play,but she sure looks silly.
Like she's not taking the match serious,non-focused and whining.
Also,I may get flamed for saying this,but after reading that article
again I think that broad has some serious issues with men in general.I
can believe
that she would beat some hometown guys,but not the big dogs in men's
pool.
Not even close.

Eric

Ross

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Jun 20, 2003, 12:23:25 PM6/20/03
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I agree that when she overdoes it Vivian can get annoying. But her
chatter and self-promotion is part of her marketing and I think it
works for her. I doubt she really believes she could beat the men
pros, just like Minnesota Fats surely didn't believe half of what he
said. But both are/were popular with the lay audience, less so with
real players.

John Q

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Jun 20, 2003, 6:43:04 PM6/20/03
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super...@yahoo.com (Ross) wrote in message news:<cbdffec9.03062...@posting.google.com>...

She's not near Fats's caliber in the Bullshitting department,nor is her
name synonomous with Pool like Fats's is.I think you're right though,
she couldn't really believe that deep down inside.

Eric

Tim Dolan

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Jun 20, 2003, 9:25:02 PM6/20/03
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If you ever have to sit through a round robin WPBA (Valley Forge) event with
six players and someone like Vivian isn't one of them, you'd probably be as
bored as I was.
Tim,
Looking to expand Seniors (55 + ) Daytime Pool League

Mark Maxey

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Jun 21, 2003, 3:08:29 PM6/21/03
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Its a real shame there isn't more men's pool on ESPN now
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Sidi

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Jun 21, 2003, 9:43:17 PM6/21/03
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"Mark Maxey" <h...@aol.com> wrote in message news:<N22Ja.97438$YZ2.266185@rwcrnsc53>...

> Its a real shame there isn't more men's pool on ESPN now
> "Tim Dolan" <timseni...@aol.com> wrote in message

I find it strange that we only seem to get men in the trick-shot
competitions and women shooting 9 ball. Occasionally they show men's
9 ball, but I never seem to catch it.

Maybe it's because the men run out too often. That and maybe they
think sex appeal will get more men to watch.

Sidi

wayne crimi

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Jun 22, 2003, 10:58:54 AM6/22/03
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The men are operating at a huge disadvantage vs the women when it comes to
forming a viable tour and getting huge endorsements and TV coverage. Their
heads are too FAT!

A lot of men on the tour feel that if they can run lots of racks of balls it
qualifies them to make the types of leadership, marketing, and return and
invested capital decisions that are required to run a successful business.
They also feel that highly educated white collar corporate executives are
attracted to doing business with people that spent almost their entire life
gambling, hustling and cutting school to work on their break shot.

Until all the players realize that their unique skills on the table have
little to do with running a successful tour with TV exposure etc... they
have no chance of having one.

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Ed S

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Jun 23, 2003, 11:43:35 AM6/23/03
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There is alot to be said for good organization and I think they(the
sponsers)
like the tuxedo look the men on the trick shot tour wear.
I would rather see the men's tour and if possible some one pocket. I
wish they
could find some way that(one pecket) would be interseting to the
general public.
As far as what's on TV now the first thing I would have to do is
either replace Mitch Lawerance or beat some pool sense into him. I
don't know him
personally but it's obvios he doesn't know anthing about pool at least
not near
as much as he thinks. Allen on the other hand is great and I don't
think we
could find anyone more knowledge or is that knowledgeable. Sorry Allen
couldn't
help it. I just think on nationwide TV the English should be just at
least a
little better and the expert can't correct the other guy(Mitch)
through the whole show.
Sorry again Allen.
I really think the people that watch for the pool love having such
an expert
announcing. I was lucky enough to watch him win a one pocket
tournament.
I would love to see some 3C billiards instead of trickshots, reruns
or that
new 9 ball ball in hand when you miss stuff.
EdS


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Ross

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Jun 23, 2003, 2:00:41 PM6/23/03
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timseni...@aol.com (Tim Dolan) wrote in message news:<20030620212502...@mb-m18.aol.com>...

Yeah, that was deadly! I was only able to watch a couple of matches.
But to be fair, I think it had more to do with the format (a loss
didn't send a player home), the sparse audience (most attendees went
to watch Archer, Morris, Parica, etc. who were playing at the same
time), and the
soporific "alanismorissette" type music they were piping in. It would
have been a good place to catch a nap.

Tim Dolan

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Jun 24, 2003, 3:10:08 PM6/24/03
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>If you ever have to sit through a round robin WPBA (Valley Forge) event with
>> six players and someone like Vivian isn't one of them, you'd probably be as
>> bored as I was.
>> Tim,
>> Looking to expand Seniors (55 + ) Daytime Pool League
>
>Yeah, that was deadly! I was only able to watch a couple of matches.
>But to be fair, I think it had more to do with the format (a loss
>didn't send a player home), the sparse audience (most attendees went
>to watch Archer, Morris, Parica, etc. who were playing at the same
>time), and the
>soporific "alanismorissette" type music they were piping in. It would
>have been a good place to catch a nap.
>
>
Apparently, the event (Allen?) wouldn't put up the required money for it to
be a full fledged WPBA stop on the tour.
If that is true, it's a shame.Pool is a great game, that's for sure. But, to
watch it for 8-10 hours exciting players are a much need part of it all.
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