Best hitting cue ?
LtHvywtGermanBxr
about cues in previous post. I'd love to know what you guys and gals would buy
if the only thing you cared about was a sturdy cue with a great tip and the
absolute best "hit" on the market. I'm considering buying something(price range
under $1000 ,hopefully well under ! ) strickly for "hit", it doesn't even
matter if it looks like the ugliest house cue you ever saw. Thanks for any
advice.
Ninebal310
Hustlin' Hank
Rich Shewmaker
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"LtHvywtGermanBxr" <lthvywtg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Check out Keith Josey's sticks at:
http://www.joseycues.com/cuelist.php
His bottom-of-the-line sneaky pete is $240 plus shipping. His cues have a
reputation for a fine hit. Mine hits GREAT, but I paid extra for him to make
me one with a Predator shaft. Mine is the S-04 with the pretty inlays, and
was $850 plus shipping. The workmanship is absolutely first rate. Best of
all, Keith is a really nice guy, and won't take a year or more to make your
cue. Give him a call at (912) 356-1816 (EST).
Tony DeAngelo
and a lot of different cues and try them out. When I hear players talk
about various characteristics of a cues "hit" it makes oenophiles sound
normal.
Tony DeAngelo
Rich Shewmaker wrote:
> Check out Keith Josey's sticks at:
>
> http://www.joseycues.com/cuelist.php
>
> His bottom-of-the-line sneaky pete is $240 plus shipping. His cues have a
> reputation for a fine hit. Mine hits GREAT, but I paid extra for him to make
> me one with a Predator shaft. Mine is the S-04 with the pretty inlays, and
> was $850 plus shipping. The workmanship is absolutely first rate. Best of
> all, Keith is a really nice guy, and won't take a year or more to make your
> cue. Give him a call at (912) 356-1816 (EST).
>
I can't recommend this guy...ENOUGH.
Frank G
> I'm considering buying something(price range
> under $1000 ,hopefully well under ! ) strickly for "hit", it doesn't even
> matter if it looks like the ugliest house cue you ever saw. Thanks for any
> advice.
>
>
one you want. I believe the cuemakers already recommended to you will
be there along with many others. Details at:
http://www.superbilliardsexpo.com/home.html
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jcd83
Bill McDaniel makes the best hitting cues I ever played with! Check
out his site: http://www.billmcdaniel.com/
9b4me
I have owned three of Keith Josey's cues and they are as well made as
any cue on the market in my opinion. Keith is a super nice guy and
his cues play well. I have a friend who plays with one of Keith's
sneaky pete cues and he loves it. Keith used the large radial pin
joints on his cues and they hit and play well. He will make you a cue
from $240 on up and it's up to you on how fancy you want the cue to
be.
Jholly
Patrick Johnson
> about various characteristics of a cues "hit" it makes oenophiles sound
> normal.
My Predator with custom shaft's hit is exuberant yet well mannered, with subtle,
complex feedback and a distinct but unobtrusive afterimage.
Pat Johnson
Chicago
Mark0
Mark0 <--former wine commonsewer who likes Trogdon Cues best
"Patrick Johnson" <patrick...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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Sympatico
Tom Tillman
his website, but be sure to call him because he sometimes has cues
available for sale without the 2 year wait.
WilleeCue
Do you know if you like a hard, med, or soft hit?
William Lee
"LtHvywtGermanBxr" <lthvywtg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Patrick Johnson
> Thats a ridiculous question.
LOL. Guess sorry ain't good enough...
Pat Johnson
Chicago
Patrick Johnson
Would anybody know what he meant if he did?
Pat Johnson
Chicago
charles
> lthvywtg...@aol.com says...
> > I'm considering buying something(price range
> > under $1000 ,hopefully well under ! ) strickly for "hit", it doesn't even
> > matter if it looks like the ugliest house cue you ever saw. Thanks for any
> > advice.
> >
> >
> Go to the EXPO in Valley Forge, Pa. and play with a bunch and pick the
> one you want. I believe the cuemakers already recommended to you will
> be there along with many others. Details at:
> http://www.superbilliardsexpo.com/home.html
I have two cues that I shoot with, and for the money you cann't buy a
better cues. One is by Richard Neighbors of Cincinnati, Ohio and the
other by Mike Erwin of Sara, Mississippi and they both shoot like a
dream. They excellent cues for under 1000.00.
Hugh(LCS)
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> Pechauer
> Hustlin' Hank
WilleeCue
William Lee
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WilleeCue
I dream I am winning the tournement.
However, I soon awake and find myself two and out.
William Lee
"charles" <defw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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LtHvywtGermanBxr
>
>There is no way to measure or judge "hit" without being biased and/or
>opinionated.
It would only be a "ridiculous" question if I had all the answers.
LtHvywtGermanBxr
Bob Hartman
> under $1000 ,hopefully well under ! ) strickly for "hit", it doesn't even
> matter if it looks like the ugliest house cue you ever saw. Thanks for any
> advice.
Please forgive my ignorance, but what does a good hitting cue feel
like? Is feel the the criteria, or something else?
For that matter, what does a bad hitting cue feel like? The only bad
hitting cue I have ever felt is when a tip had become mushy.
Some cues (tip?) sound bad, but play well - that is for my level of
skill or lack thereof.
I like the hit of my Meucci sneaky pete with a home made
(epoxy/leather particles) tip - LOL. Not a good idea however, as the
epoxy tip shatters.
Bob Hartman...likes the hit of any cue when he breaks and runs out....
WilleeCue
"Bob Hartman" <x1h...@earthlink.net> wrote
> I like the hit of my Meucci sneaky pete with a home made
> (epoxy/leather particles) tip - LOL. Not a good idea however, as the
> epoxy tip shatters.
>
> Bob Hartman...likes the hit of any cue when he breaks and runs out....
Careful Bob, you might put your eye out ..... LOL
William Lee
John Barton
of your arm. One that allows you to forget about the cue and just shoot.
A "bad hitting cue" is one that makes you wonder what's wrong with it. One
that you struggle to use and constantly obsess about.
As you can see this is obviously largely subjective and based on individual
experiences. However, there are things about cue construction that allow
some brands of cues to be found mostly "good" by a majority of people who
try them and others to found "bad" or barely acceptable by a majority of
people who try them.
Thus it is likely that almost every Southwest would be pronounced "good
hitting" while only some KC Cues would get that moniker.
The "hit" and it's level of goodness and sweetness is extremely elusive. So
if you get a cue that hits good and sweet cherish it and never give it up.
:-)) John
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Vader93490
>hitting" while only some KC Cues would get that moniker.
I never considered Southwest to be all that "good-hitting"... I never could get
the amount of spin out of it that I could with a more limber-feeling cue like a
Meucci or a Dale Perry.
But as you observed, everyone likes something different.
Lou
order:
1. If you've yet to develop a good stroke, you won't realize most of the
cue's "hit character." Get something inexpensive and well made, like a
plain jane Viking, and use that to refine your stroke. If you aren't sure
about your stroke, hire an instructor or get with a good player who doesn't
mind helping you to improve.
2. After you've refined your stroke and are playing reasonably well (the
level of a B-rated player), ask your opponents with nice cues if they'd mind
switching cues for a game; explain that you're looking for your ideal hit.
Most people are willing to help out, especially if they see that you'll be
careful with their cue. Don't allow awe of an exotic cue to distract you;
keep on your stroke and work whitey to the best of your ability. After
trying a bunch of different cues like this, you should have an understanding
of how you like a cue to hit.
3. Once you know what kind of hit you like, you can go a couple ways toward
buying that special cue. First, you can order a cue from a maker whose cue
you liked while you were in step two. Second, you can go to an expo, try a
bunch of different cues, and buy one right there. Cues are sometimes sold
at tournaments too.
Some people prefer to just buy and sell their way to their dream cue, which
is of course one way to go. I can't handle that, because the constant
ordering and waiting frustrates me.
Good luck.
"LtHvywtGermanBxr" <lthvywtg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry to the vet RSB'ers in here for asking this ,as I've read many
inquiries
> about cues in previous post. I'd love to know what you guys and gals would
buy
> if the only thing you cared about was a sturdy cue with a great tip and
the
> absolute best "hit" on the market. I'm considering buying something(price
mackyo
> Jeff Olney,makes a great hitting cue at a reasonable price. Check out
> his website, but be sure to call him because he sometimes has cues
> available for sale without the 2 year wait.
I just received my cue from Jeff Olney of Iowa. It has a good solid
hit and the price is very affordable. I can't wait to get another
one!
Bob Hartman
William,
I meant breaking & running out the door.
Bob
Hyay
9b4me
I agree with you that Bill McDaniel cues have a great hit, but i'd
like to share this story with you about how he treated me. I ordered
a cue from Bill called the Dagger cue and it cost $1975 to have it
built the way I wanted it. I waited for my cue to be built and
finally I was told it was ready. I arranged to meet Bill and some of
his helpers at the BCA Trade Show in Las Vegas about 11/2 to 2 years
ago to pick up my new cue. I was excited about getting the cue and
going to the trade show. I had to pay for my cue in full up front
($1975) which was quite a bit of money for me, but I wanted the cue
and I managed to put the money together to buy it.
When I met Bill and his helpers I was told to meet them outside of the
Convention center to take delivery of my cue. They had an aluminum
box with about 20 or so cues in it and one of the men opened the box
and pulled out the butt of my cue and then he reached in and pulled
out two shafts that were tagged to go with my cue. When I saw the
shafts I immediately asked to exchange them for two others in the box
because the two they handed me were horrible (heavy red grain in the
wood and they were honestly the worst looking shafts I have ever
seen). At least half of the shafts I saw in the cue box all had the
same single silver ring joint configuration so exchangeing them
wouldn't have been a problem.
Here's the deal - My cue was already paid for in advance and the rest
of the cues in the box were going to Bill's dealer inside. Who gets
the terrible shafts - of course the man who has already paid and not
the dealer who is going to put the cues on display to sell.
I contacted Bill later and arranged to ship the shafts back unchalked
to his shop at my expense and he was supposed to send me two
replacement shafts. I WAITED 4 MONTHS FOR MY SHAFTS AND ALL I HAD WAS
THE BUTT OF A $1975 CUE AND I COULDN'T PLAY WITH IT!! How would you
feel if you were treated like that.
Jholly
Gregory
> I just received my cue from Jeff Olney of Iowa. It has a good solid
> hit and the price is very affordable. I can't wait to get another
> one!
one for each hand
Ken Bour
that the word "hit" is treated in these discussions as though everyone knows
and agrees about the precise meaning not just of the term itself, but even
its attending adjectives such as "great." The truth is that these terms, in
their common usage, are just about totally meaningless except to the utterer
(and even then I have to wonder). If I said a cue "looked great," would
anyone have even a foggy idea what that meant other than I had a positive
personal impression?
Ken Bour
"Tony DeAngelo" <aj...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> The only sensible thing for you to do is to go to a place with a table
> and a lot of different cues and try them out. When I hear players talk
> about various characteristics of a cues "hit" it makes oenophiles sound
> normal.
>
Ken Bour
Ken Bour
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Ken Bour
writer is not really interested in learning anything useful. Of course it
is not ridiculous to want to know about and understand the performance
characteristics of a cue.
Ken Bour
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Bob Hartman
Whether the question was "riduculous" or not is irrelevant. What is
the INTENT of the question?
LtHvywtGermanBxr (your name is slightly awkward:),
What do yo want to know? What is your skill level? Are you wanting
to improve your skill? Do you want a high, medium, or low squirt que?
Do you want a forward, medium, or rearward balanced cue. What about
stiffness, diameter, weight, taper and a host of other specs including
hit. The factor IMO that has the greatest effect on hit is the tip.
And for some of you, how does it FEEL?
Bob Hartman
The Man From Jupiter
Patrick Johnson
> ... predator 316 shaft
Are those available on Earth?
Pat Johnson
Chicago
Ron Shepard
Patrick Johnson <patrick...@attbi.com> wrote:
> > ... predator 316 shaft
>
> Are those available on Earth?
In alternate universes, the value of pi could have different values.
$.02 -Ron Shepard
The Man From Jupiter
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WilleeCue
"9b4me" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> Here's the deal - My cue was already paid for in advance and the rest
> of the cues in the box were going to Bill's dealer inside. Who gets
> the terrible shafts - of course the man who has already paid and not
> the dealer who is going to put the cues on display to sell.
> I contacted Bill later and arranged to ship the shafts back unchalked
> to his shop at my expense and he was supposed to send me two
> replacement shafts. I WAITED 4 MONTHS FOR MY SHAFTS AND ALL I HAD WAS
> THE BUTT OF A $1975 CUE AND I COULDN'T PLAY WITH IT!! How would you
> feel if you were treated like that.
>
> Jholly
I think I will wait to hear the rest of the story before making any calls here.
<G>
I am not saying you are not telling it all .....
It is just that I have made premature judgments before and felt very foolish
about it later.
There was an option while you were waiting for the shafts .... Predator!
The drawback being that after you played with a Predator shaft for 4 months the
custom shafts might be a disappointment.
William Lee