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John Black

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Apr 5, 2008, 1:04:06 AM4/5/08
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I'm hanging a light over my table at home. Its one of those standard 3
dome pool table lights. I've found several sites that recommend hanging
it between 32 and 36 inches above the table. So I figured I'd split the
difference and make it 34. Any compelling reasons to go to one side or
the other of 34 inches? Thanks.

John Black

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Dan White

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Apr 5, 2008, 1:45:54 AM4/5/08
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I'd say one thing to check is to make sure you can see the following layout
from the head of the table without having the light dome in your line of
view. On my table, I have to bend down to see that shot. It's kind of
annoying. Maybe an inch or two will make a difference for you, maybe not.

http://CueTable.com/P/?@4AIsg4BCpA3CCYA4DCpe4EFbe3FChe4GBjO4HAMA4IAEe3JFSe4KEMO3LBKO3MDvO4NBal3OBJl4PJOS@

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John Black

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Apr 5, 2008, 9:41:11 AM4/5/08
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In article <mmEJj.51$XC1.4@trndny08>, dwhi...@verizon.net says...

> I'd say one thing to check is to make sure you can see the following layout
> from the head of the table without having the light dome in your line of
> view. On my table, I have to bend down to see that shot. It's kind of
> annoying. Maybe an inch or two will make a difference for you, maybe not.
>
> http://CueTable.com/P/?@4AIsg4BCpA3CCYA4DCpe4EFbe3FChe4GBjO4HAMA4IAEe3JFSe4KEMO3LBKO3MDvO4NBal3OBJl4PJOS@

Will do, thanks. Do you know how high your light is?

Jack Stein

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Apr 5, 2008, 10:01:37 AM4/5/08
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John Black wrote:
> I'm hanging a light over my table at home. Its one of those standard 3
> dome pool table lights. I've found several sites that recommend hanging
> it between 32 and 36 inches above the table. So I figured I'd split the
> difference and make it 34. Any compelling reasons to go to one side or
> the other of 34 inches? Thanks.

I have that light set and I just measured and I'm just a tad under 35
inches. This height seems perfect for me, I'm 6'1". (down an inch and
4" fatter!) I think 34 would be good as well, but I wouldn't go any
higher unless I was Bob...

Most of these lights are hanging on chains and can be adjusted up or
down at will...

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Ron Hudson

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Apr 5, 2008, 10:16:13 AM4/5/08
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On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 00:04:06 -0500, John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:

>I'm hanging a light over my table at home. Its one of those standard 3
>dome pool table lights. I've found several sites that recommend hanging
>it between 32 and 36 inches above the table. So I figured I'd split the
>difference and make it 34. Any compelling reasons to go to one side or
>the other of 34 inches? Thanks.
>
>John Black

The best placement will vary with different fixtures. Start low and move the
light up until the light covers the table without a lot of light shining off the
edges of the table. From the description it sounds like it uses incandescent
bulbs. Avoid a hot spot in the middle of the table by using a lower wattage
bulb in the center socket.


Ron

John Black

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Apr 5, 2008, 12:44:23 PM4/5/08
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In article <u42fv3hvqipd38tfm...@4ax.com>,
r...@okwinners.com says...

Thanks for the tips.

Hustlin' Hank

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Apr 5, 2008, 7:03:11 PM4/5/08
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I was told last week that the height (bottom of shade) should be the
same distance from the slate that the slate is from the floor. This
guy owns a pool hall, so I guess he figures it is comfortable for all.

Hank <~~~ 6 ft and shrinking

Dan White

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Apr 5, 2008, 8:10:41 PM4/5/08
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"John Black" <jbl...@texas.net> wrote in message
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> Will do, thanks. Do you know how high your light is?
>

I'll try to measure it tomorrow. Our lights are circa 1970, big plastic
green shades, so that might have an effect on the height. Anyway I'm
curious myself to see the height.

dwhite


Rodan

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Apr 5, 2008, 8:24:57 PM4/5/08
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John Black  wrote:

I'm hanging a a standard 3-dome pool table light over my table
I found several sites that recommend hanging it 32-36 inches
above the table so I figured I'd make it 34.     Any compelling
reasons to go to one side or the other of 34 inches?
_______________________________________________


"Hustlin' Hank" wrote:

I was told last week that the height (bottom of shade) should
be the same distance from the slate that the slate is from the
floor.    This guy owns a pool hall, so I guess he figures it
is comfortable for all.
_______________________________________________________

There is no standard for lamp height other than the
WPA tournament requirement that the lamp be at least
40 inches above the table bed (and light the bed
with 48 foot-candles minimum at every point).

For a home table, lamp height is a personal preference.
The lamp should be low enough to put plenty of light
on the playing surface.    The lamp should be high
enough to keep a player's head from bumping it.   The
lamp should be low enough to keep side-leaking light
from bothering players' eyes.    The lamp should be
high enough to avoid being struck by a cue shaft being
lifted by a player.   The lamp should be low enough
for
visitors to appreciate the owner's decorative taste.

The ideal lamp would be mounted on the ceiling, with
collimated light coming straight down, so the table
would be completely illuminated but no light could be
seen when looking up at the lamp (unless you laid on
your back on the table and looked straight up).
 
Best regards to all RSBers,
 
Rodan.

Hustlin' Hank

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Apr 6, 2008, 7:24:02 AM4/6/08
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On Apr 5, 7:24�pm, "Rodan" <Ro...@verizon.NOT> wrote:

>
> The ideal lamp would be mounted on the ceiling, with
> collimated light coming straight down, so the table
> would be completely illuminated but no light could be
> seen when looking up at the lamp (unless you laid on
> your back on the table and looked straight up).
>
> Best regards to all RSBers,
>
> Rodan.

Your perfect lighting sounds great, but I don't remember ever shooting
on a table that was perfectly lit. Hell, a couple of the larger
tournaments that I have played in didn't even have lights on each
table and used the lighting that was on the 20 ft. ceilings for the
basketball games.

As long as I don't hit my head or bang my stick or knock the light
out, I am happy.

I see it as the same as cloth/speed or size of table. Not all tables,
tournaments and etc are the same. It is just one of the little things
we have to adapt/adjust to.

Hank <~~~ has hard time adjusting to outside life. :-)

Jack Stein

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Apr 6, 2008, 8:38:26 AM4/6/08
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Rodan wrote:

> The ideal lamp would be mounted on the ceiling, with
> collimated light coming straight down, so the table
> would be completely illuminated but no light could be
> seen when looking up at the lamp (unless you laid on
> your back on the table and looked straight up).

The local Fox and Hound has little high intensity lights, I guess about
3"-4" in diameter recessed in the ceiling. There are a bunch of them
over each table and it is the best lighting I've seen over pool tables,
The ceilings are pretty high if I recall correctly, it's been a while
since I was there. You don't notice how the tables are lit, but the
light is perfectly bright and even.

Personally, I like the nostalgic look of the type of lights John is
putting up, although you need 4 lights I think for a nine footer. I got
my lights for about $100 and they have green plastic shades that are
semi-transparent so the shades have a nice green glow when lit. I
haven't seen any as cheap or like them since I bought them about 10
years ago, I think it was through Mueller's on line store.

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Jack
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John Black

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Apr 6, 2008, 10:16:16 AM4/6/08
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In article <tLUJj.1798$Ug4.1008@trndny01>, Ro...@verizon.NOT says...

> There is no standard for lamp height other than the
> WPA tournament requirement that the lamp be at least
> 40 inches above the table bed

Hmm, then their *minimum* height is higher than the recommended range of
32 to 36 inches that I found in a few other places. ?

Hustlin' Hank

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Apr 6, 2008, 6:53:03 PM4/6/08
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On Apr 6, 7:38�am, Jack Stein <jbste...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> Personally, I like the nostalgic look of the type of lights John is
> putting up, although you need 4 lights I think for a nine footer. �I got
> my lights for about $100 and they have green plastic shades that are
> semi-transparent so the shades have a nice green glow when lit. �I
> haven't seen any as cheap or like them since I bought them about 10
> years ago, I think it was through Mueller's on line store.
>
> --
> Jackhttp://jbstein.com

I just bought lights like yours. Mine has 4 lights with metal shades
instead of the green plastic with the brass finish. I got them for
wholesale at $96 a couple weeks ago. I am glad I didn't get the 3
light for my 9 footer.

Hank <~~~has people

Dan White

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Apr 7, 2008, 10:53:16 PM4/7/08
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Wow, my lights are low! The edge of the shade is 26" from the playing
surface. They are big shades 16" across, so 3 of them seem to cover the
table adequately. I'm 6'1" and the shade blocks the very end of the playing
surface when I stand at the head of the table. They are a bit low, but the
ceiling in the basement is low along with the ductwork in the way. I guess
I know now why it looks like I'm wearing a big green hat when I shoot a
break shot from the center of the table. lol

dwhite

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