tip consistency
TUCKERCUES
the people that actually give a shit about what kind of tip they use are
concerned mostly about consistency. I have always been partial to Champion
tips so when I decided to make a few cues as a hobby I started putting
Champs on them, however I have done some testing and maybe laminates are a
better way to go. I measured the hardness of the 45 Champs that I have
(measurements are in durometers) and the results are as follows
6 tips @ 67.5
16 tips @70.00
6 tips @ 72.5
14 tips @ 75
3 tips @ 77.5
there is over a 10 percent spread in hardness between the hardest and
softest tip. Is this important ? I think so. I don't have any laminated
tips to measure and they are too expensive to by a bunch just to experiment
on, but I am going to buy a few of some of the better known brands and test
them. If any one wants to send me some tips to test I will be happy to
test them and send them back unless they are mooris, then I'll keep one.
I'll try to post the results on my web page in the near future.
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Murray Tucker III
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http://www.tuckerbilt.com/III
R. Anne Mayes
> I measured the hardness of the 45 Champs that I have
> (measurements are in durometers) and the results are as follows
> 6 tips @ 67.5
> 16 tips @70.00
> 6 tips @ 72.5
> 14 tips @ 75
> 3 tips @ 77.5
> there is over a 10 percent spread in hardness between the hardest and
> softest tip.
Must be nice to have a durometer - care to brag some more.. :(
sigh,
Annie O
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Annie O's Billiard Pro Shop http://www.annieosproshop.com
WPBA Tour Player Last Ranked 23rd - Retired Dec 1996
Paul J. Mon
My hat is off to you. Finally someone had the means and motive to
accurately measure tips. Was there any lasting damage to the tips
resulting from the measuring process? Did you take any measurements on
the back side of the tips and was there any correlation? Thanks for
the info. Regards....Paul Mon
TUCKERCUES wrote:
>
> After reading many threads about cue tips in this ng it seems that most of
> the people that actually give a shit about what kind of tip they use are
> concerned mostly about consistency. I have always been partial to Champion
> tips so when I decided to make a few cues as a hobby I started putting
> Champs on them, however I have done some testing and maybe laminates are a
> better way to go. I measured the hardness of the 45 Champs that I have
> (measurements are in durometers) and the results are as follows
> 6 tips @ 67.5
> 16 tips @70.00
> 6 tips @ 72.5
> 14 tips @ 75
> 3 tips @ 77.5
> there is over a 10 percent spread in hardness between the hardest and
Tony Jones
Could you let me know what equipment you used.
We manufacture laminated cue tips and I would be interested to send you some
to test. I am also interested to see your answer to Paul's post regarding
whether or not the testing damaged the tips. If you send me your address
I'll send you some of our Talisman PRO range and also some of our new tip
the Talisman WB which we are just about to launch.
TIA
Tony Jones
Talisman Billiard Accessories
www.talismanbilliards.com
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CSmith4738
Durometers are kinds of harness testers. They are specifically designed to test
the harndess of FLEXIBLE materials. There are many other types out there, but
this type is the one you want.
How they work is a probe in penetrated into the substance being tested. At some
point the probe stops. Basically, the measurements are a reflection of the
encountered resistance (amount of probe depth).
Do they damage the tip? No. The probe usually penetrates around .005" IF YOU
ARE USING THE CORRECT SHORE SCALE.
Basically, a shore scale is the point shape of the penetration shaft. Two
scales you will encounter will be shore scales A & D. Shore scale A is the one
you want. The A scale has a 35* blunt nose. The D scale has a sharp 30* point
nose.
Shore scale A is what you want to use. It can cost you between $500 and $2500+
depending on what way you want to go. The $500 unit should be adequate.
When searching through a catalog, sometimes durometers are not listed in the
index. However, most of the time they can be found with the hardness testers.
Hope this Freds, err I mean helps.
Clark Smith
Clark Custom Cues
Tacoma, WA
TUCKERCUES
because Champs have a fiber backing.
Paul J. Mon <226...@knotes.kodak.com> wrote in article
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> Murray,
> My hat is off to you. Finally someone had the means and motive to
> accurately measure tips. Was there any lasting damage to the tips
> resulting from the measuring process? Did you take any measurements on
> the back side of the tips and was there any correlation? Thanks for
> the info. Regards....Paul Mon
>
>
>
> TUCKERCUES wrote:
> >
TUCKERCUES
blunt point. You can also use a type "D" but it has a sharp point and might
leave a deep pin hole in the tip.
Tony Jones <to...@talismanbilliards.com> wrote in article
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> Hi Murray,
>
> Could you let me know what equipment you used.
>
> We manufacture laminated cue tips and I would be interested to send you
some
> to test. I am also interested to see your answer to Paul's post regarding
> whether or not the testing damaged the tips. If you send me your address
> I'll send you some of our Talisman PRO range and also some of our new tip
> the Talisman WB which we are just about to launch.
>
>
> TIA
> Tony Jones
> Talisman Billiard Accessories
> www.talismanbilliards.com
>
>
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