Silver Cup Chalk vs Masters
Richard N. Moecia
Viking tour, which they have been using for over a month. Today I complained
and the owner through the entire box out saying he's heard too many
complaints and he's going back to Masters. I don't like the feel of the
chalk when I chalk my stick and don't like the hit. However, one of the
employees was saying they use this chalk in the Trick Shot Championship on
ESPN, at least that's what's on the tables, and he has seen some of the
players use it. I can't imagine anybody using Silver Cup, and preferring it
over Masters. Any comments?
--
Dick Moecia fka poolcue
www.gcaba.com
Canton Amateur Billiard Hall of Fame
Ratchet
"Richard N. Moecia" wrote:
I saw that too , I imagine they are a sponsor of trick shot competition , I also
think Silver Cup sucks
>> Ratchet <<
Jimbo Ct
recently been to their plant. He claims there is no difference between the
colors besides a few drops of dye. I can't even think of using the green let
alone that camel and I have no idea what people who use that God Awful red are
thinking.
Jim <---Maybe it's all in my head
Newsposts1
> I can't imagine anybody using Silver Cup, and preferring it
> over Masters. Any comments?
Maybe it's just personal choice, but I prefer Silver Cup, especially
in a humid environment. With higher temperature and humidity, I found
that the Silver Cup maintained grit and consistency, where the Master
tended to cake up a bit and become harder to get a smooth consistent
layer applied to the tip.
Deno J. Andrews
Jimbo on this one...Master Blue all the way. I think there is a slight
difference between the blue and the green. The green feels a bit more
powdery and slippery than the blue. Who knows if it is true or not, but
perception is everything.
Deno
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Ratchet
Jimbo Ct wrote:
The place where I play has only the masters green and the vending company that
supplies them frowns on the other colors , the other colors make a new green felt
look some kids coloring books !!
>> Ratchet <<
Ratchet
Ratchet wrote:
err I meant Masters Blue not Green
Ron Hudson
wrote:
That's because the blue chalk dust blends in with the green cloth color better
than green chalk. The problem with that in some bars is that nobody cleans the
tables and the chalk dust builds up. When the tables are not cleaned regularly,
you will get a big blue smear on your bridge hand.
Ron
Bvinco
I'm not sure I agree the blue chalk blends with the green cloth better, but I
think it's important that it NOT blend, and reminds people to please clean the
table.
Becky (Masters Blue)
Ron posts;
Nat
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> recently been to their plant. He claims there is no difference between
the
> colors besides a few drops of dye. I can't even think of using the green
I agree. I thought the green would be a good idea on my green table, but
it has a totally different texture from the blue....gave up on it.
nat
Steve Ellis
>On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:48:01 -0400, Ratchet <rat...@littlegreenapple.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>That's because the blue chalk dust blends in with the green cloth color better
>than green chalk. The problem with that in some bars is that nobody cleans the
IMO, the "green" chalk is NOT green at all, but more like a powder blue. This makes it
lighter in color and if you have a green cloth the "green" chalk shows up against the
darker real green cloth. The chalk called blue is darker and blends in better. Either way
it should be cleaned.
The only real difference I find between chalks is that with some I need to chalk more
often than others.
Most people I know don't want to play with anything but Masters Blue.
Steve.
Gregory
> The only real difference I find between chalks is
> that with some I need to chalk more often than others.
Does that mean you chalk more than once between each shot?
:-)
Here is my chalking frequency wrt/ shooting-
chalk, shoot
(repeat)
Gregory
> I not only need masters, but I need Masters Blue. [...] I can't even
think of using the green let
> alone that camel and I have no idea what people who use that God Awful
red are
> thinking.
Been using Master grey.
http://www.poolndarts.com/product.cfm?sku=24-152
(top left)
It doesn't make my grey cloth look dirty,
http://iwansimonis.com/english/colors_en.html
(middle of the bottom row)
and it works fine.
Ron Hudson
wrote:
>Most people I know don't want to play with anything but Masters Blue.
>Steve.
I think that like other things, chalk preference is a regional thing. I have
noticed that in different parts of the country, players seem to have a
preference for one chalk over the other.
Ron
Donald Tees
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:38:48 -0500, Ron Hudson <R...@Intermediacorp.net> wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:48:01 -0400, Ratchet <rat...@littlegreenapple.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>That's because the blue chalk dust blends in with the green cloth color better
>>than green chalk. The problem with that in some bars is that nobody cleans the
>
>
> IMO, the "green" chalk is NOT green at all, but more like a powder blue. This makes it
> lighter in color and if you have a green cloth the "green" chalk shows up against the
> darker real green cloth. The chalk called blue is darker and blends in better. Either way
> it should be cleaned.
> The only real difference I find between chalks is that with some I need to chalk more
> often than others.
> Most people I know don't want to play with anything but Masters Blue.
> Steve.
>
>
I have half a dozen cubes of each here at the moment, and I prefer the
blue masters to the green silver cup. I think it is a touch softer.
Donald
Rob
> over Masters. Any comments?
I use Silver Cup and prefer it over Masters. Actually, I use Silver
Cup and don't think it makes a damn bit of difference compared to
Masters. I don't see that it gives me any more or less grip, nor do I
do notice any increase or decrease in miscues. The only thing I could
say is that Silver Cup seems to be a bit more powdery than Masters,
but I see no effect in my game because of it.
Rob
Steve.
> Steve Ellis wrote
> > The only real difference I find between chalks is
> > that with some I need to chalk more often than others.
>
> Does that mean you chalk more than once between each shot?
No, it means I'm forgetful and don't chalk every shot. ;-)
Steve.
> > The only real difference I find between chalks is
> > that with some I need to chalk more often than others.
>
> Does that mean you chalk more than once between each shot?
No, it means I'm forgetful and don't chalk every shot. ;-)
Jimbo Ct
thing.
Can you give examples???
Jim <---Curious
Jimbo Ct
I know people who chalk about 50 times while thinking about a tough shot. I
hate that and it always seems to be guys who have no clue anyway, they always
without a doubt pick the dumbest option available.
Jim <---Would just love to be inside their head to listen to the thought
process
Wheeler.Dealer
I can't recall, I do know however, that I prefer Masters chalk over that
cheap National stuff that a lot of the pool halls have started carrying. It
just seems so gritty or sandy or something, I miscue all the time with that
stuff.
Of course, I shoot really hard with extreme english on every shot, to get
the most english, spin, deflection possible. Because it doesn't really
matter how good you shoot, as long as you look good doing it.;)
.-[ Every shot's a masse shot]-.
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"Wheeler.Dealer" <PutMyN...@Earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Who makes Silver Cup Chalk ?
Silver Cup Chalk Inc
240 Edgewood Ave
Macon, GA 31206
(478) 742-1972
http://paulgerni.talkoftheplanet.com/chalkpage.html
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they had been recovered in red and the owner kept red chalk. One player
complained and said he would not put that red chalk on his cue. The owner told
him then he could put his cue back in his case and use a house cue because he
didn't allow blue chalk on his red tables. I guess I'm not making any point,
just thought it was amusing when it happened.
Richard N. Moecia
have ever played with is blue but .................
The Silver Cup chalk does not appear to adhere to the tip properly and
consequently, the tip doesn't "grab" the cue ball upon contact. When I use
Silver Cup, I feel that every last shot was almost a miscue. I'm just a rank
amateur. My point is, if I can tell this very obvious difference, I can't
see how the Trick Shot Players can use this chalk in competition where
extreme spin and English is used on every shot.
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Jack Stein
> The only real difference I find between chalks is that with some I need to chalk more
> often than others.
I agree. Also feel strongly that the most, and least you should chalk
is before every shot.
> Most people I know don't want to play with anything but Masters Blue.
> Steve.
I use Silver Cup exclusively at home because my wife bought a gross of
it years ago. I've seen quite a few insist on Masters, but never saw
anyone get uppity about any other brand. I like them both, and probably
will buy a gross of masters next just to keep the goofballs happy.
I know Silver cup and master are both good chalks, I've used some in
bars that really suck, so would not buy anything other than Masters or
Silver cup.
--
Jack
http://jbstein.com
Priveye
well as others. I've been using it for about a year now and have not
experienced any problems at all. Believe me, if I was having miscue
problems I'd drop it like a bad habit.
Roscoe
"Crisis occurs when women and cattle get excited"...James Thurber
"Richard N. Moecia" <rmo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Nat
started I tried the Silver Cup again.
H'm...now I see little difference.
Older and wiser?
nat
Jack Stein
Priveye wrote:
> I think that if a tip is roughed up properly it will hold Silver Cup just as
> well as others.
I never, ever rough up my tip, and my tip is a hard layered tip, and it
holds Silver cup just fine.
> I've been using it for about a year now and have not
> experienced any problems at all.
Same, except I've been using it for a lot longer. There are bad chalks,
but Silver Cup, and Masters are not amongst them.
--
Jack
http://jbstein.com
Kirk Douglass
"Richard N. Moecia" wrote ..
> My favorite pool room got hold of a free box of Silver Cup Chalk, from
> Viking tour, which they have been using for over a month. Today I
complained
> and the owner through the entire box out saying he's heard too many
> complaints and he's going back to Masters. I don't like the feel of the
> chalk when I chalk my stick and don't like the hit. However, one of the
> employees was saying they use this chalk in the Trick Shot Championship on
> ESPN, at least that's what's on the tables, and he has seen some of the
> players use it. I can't imagine anybody using Silver Cup, and preferring
it
> over Masters. Any comments?
>
> Dick Moecia fka poolcue
> www.gcaba.com
> Canton Amateur Billiard Hall of Fame
Dick,
At Cornfed's they put out Silver Cup for the regular customers and keep
Masters behind the counter for players. They have never bought SC but like
Fiddlestix got it from Viking Tour tourneys. SC is really not bad chalk,
don't get me wrong, I use and prefer Master or Triangle (actually think
Triangle is better). The problem lies with mixing SC and Master, if you mix
the two it breeds miscues. When forced to use SC I wipe the tip dry on the
carpet or a towel after screwing together to take off any Master that is on
the tip and then use the SC, IMO the SC does produce a couple more miscues
in a long session over Master. In action I will often put both SC and Master
on the table and oppenents will use both and miscue constantly.
Kirk
Dan White
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>
> "Richard N. Moecia" wrote ..
> > My favorite pool room got hold of a free box of Silver Cup Chalk, from
> > Viking tour, which they have been using for over a month. Today I
> complained
I picked up an old box of Imperial chalk at a garage sale because the box
was kind of interesting. Anyone ever use this chalk?
dwhite
Richard N. Moecia
on the table). I guess this is poetic justice for me constantly stealing
Fiddlestix Masters chalk.
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> "Richard N. Moecia" <rmo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<BblIc.134$Yx...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>...
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> > I can't imagine anybody using Silver Cup, and preferring it
> > over Masters. Any comments?
>
> in a humid environment. With higher temperature and humidity, I found
> that the Silver Cup maintained grit and consistency, where the Master
> tended to cake up a bit and become harder to get a smooth consistent
> layer applied to the tip.
I'm gonna agree to this point. I used to use Masters Tan...sue me.
Then about a year ago, I started using the Silver Cup Tan, and started
getting more consistent contact between the tip and cue ball. I
recently went back to using the Masters. I too have noticed that the
Masters 'cakes' unevenly across the tip when it is humid out. Now,
living in the Pacific Northwet, it is inherently humid. I have also
recently noticed that I am just not getting the same consistent
contact between tip and cue ball as I did with the Silver Cup. It's
not severe enough that it is resulting in miscues...as I am not an
'english' abuser, and therefore extremely rarely miscue anyway.
However, I am not getting the same reaction between tip and cue ball,
and that is resulting in not making some shots now, that I could make
before......or I am in a slump...which is equally likely :-)
As to using something other than Masters Blue...such as my
Tan....hey, different strokes for different folks. It doesn't stain
my ferrules and shafts, and that keeps me happy.
As for a room owner to not allow a certain color chalk because it
shows how dirty a table is.....then I am not playing there. Because
it means to me, that he is generally lazy about the upkeep of his
tables.
When we got our table...my hubby really wanted purple felt. I
agreed, on the condition that when it was time to recover, I got to
put Simonis green on it. He got purple chalk, and insisted that I use
it too. I told him to bite rocks, wasn't happening. I got alot more
invested into my cue than into that felt, besides, the purple turns
the ferrules a funky shade of pink that is damn near impossible to get
out....the blue staining is much easier to remove. Besides, I am the
one who exclusively maintains the cleanliness of our table's felt...so
I am using whatever color chalk I like!
I have been noticing recently, in my playing area, that those who do
have nice cues to play with are all moving exclusively to a tan
colored chalk...Masters and Silver Cup...for the exact same reason I
have used it for over 7 years now.....they want to avoid the blue
'patina' stains to their cues' shafts.
Lisa
rooftop...@gmail.com
Such has Arizona; Nevada; (and) New Mexico.
However; if you live in the U.S. Eastern Standard Time;
Time Zone; Your Better Off sticking with
Master Chalk in more Humid Climates.
I heard them say this; while watching pool on ESPN one day;
and I will never forget it. :-)
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> My favorite pool room got hold of a free box of Silver Cup Chalk, from
> Viking tour, which they have been using for over a month. Today I complained
> and the owner through the entire box out saying he's heard too many
> complaints and he's going back to Masters. I don't like the feel of the
> chalk when I chalk my stick and don't like the hit. However, one of the
> employees was saying they use this chalk in the Trick Shot Championship on
> ESPN, at least that's what's on the tables, and he has seen some of the
> over Masters. Any comments?
>
> Dick Moecia fka poolcue
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