Pool Leagues: Columbus, OH
Dave Bunch
in my area.. I live in Hilliard, OH....
I know of some leagues...
But do not have contact info and I know there
are many leauges in Columbus..
So is there a list or something..
Dave
Mike Haught
I can fill you in on that league if you're interested. In fact, my
team shoots fairly close to Hilliard and is looking for a new guy.
-mwh
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Before you buy.
Hugh (Licking County Slim)
join the VNEA or Heart of Ohio
contact george lyons at shaffer services at
299-4141
or call players family billiards and ask for nick, concering the heart of
ohio league
Hugh(LCS)
Mike Haught <mwha...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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RICH679
The APA League in Columbus Oh
is the fairest. It is for amateur players you don't have to be great just
enjoy the game.
Hugh has a bad attitude.
We sent 5 teams to the APA Nationals in Las Vegas you cann't do that in Valley
or Heart of Ohio
e-mail either us or Mike Haught
us at apaco...@hotmail.com
Nancy
Hugh (Licking County Slim)
hahaha
u r so funny
only 5 teams went to vegas from your APA league ey??
and u say not that many went from valley??
u r trippin over yur feet in this one.
i can back up what i say..and 90% of the people around columbus who know
about the APA will back me up also
Hugh(LCS)
RICH679 <ric...@aol.com> wrote in message
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RICH679
APA is beyond me and I would hope everyone else has had their fill of you. You
don't have a clue yet you continue to speak about something you don't know
about.
You probably don't know 90% of the people around columbus and if we happen to
be so bad why are we growing and growing. Because we are the fairest.
I will not waste any more time on this or on you and your slanderous
statements. I have more pride than that.
Nancy
Dan Capestrain
Nancy,
We don't have the APA where I am from. Is the APA a 100% payback league and
do they provide financial statements so players can see where there money
goes?
Dan C
"RICH679" wrote
> You probably don't know 90% of the people around columbus
barenada
Dan Capestrain wrote...
> We don't have the APA where I am from. Is the APA a 100% payback league
No. There are franchise fees that go to St. Louis, and the League Operator also
gets a percentage. Things like trophy funds, point paybacks, etc. are optional.
League Operators are free to set any weekly fees they want as long as the
franchise fees are met, and they may distribute any remainder however they see
fit.
> and do they provide financial statements so players can see where
> there money goes?
Some League Operators might do this, but I've never heard of one that does.
Usually the players are given more general information such as "2 dollars out of
every player's weekly fee goes into a travel fund for the teams that go to
Vegas." I doubt that many League Operators will tell players what they make
since it's none of their business.
--
Dave <--- former league operator
Dick Moecia
and league operators have an obligation to disclose it?
Dave writes:
" I doubt that many League Operators will tell players what they make
since it's none of their business."
Dick Moecia, fka poolcue
http://ourworld.cs.com/poolhalloffame
Hugh (Licking County Slim)
play this pathetic league, and as for the slander stuff..well i've heard the
wind blow before..i've not named any names...nor what i've said has been
UNTRUE..if you talk to the MAJORITY of people in columbus you'll see what
they say...
i could ramble on and give example after example, but this league isnt worth
my time either!
Hugh(LCS)
Dan Capestrain <DANCAP...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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>
> Nancy,
>
> We don't have the APA where I am from. Is the APA a 100% payback league
and
> do they provide financial statements so players can see where there money
> goes?
>
barenada
Dick Moecia asked...
> You don't think league members have a right to know how their money is spent
> and league operators have an obligation to disclose it?
>
> Dave writes:
> " I doubt that many League Operators will tell players what they make
> since it's none of their business."
Not so far as knowing how much the League Operator is making. Things like
trophy funds, travel funds, etc. should certainly be disclosed, but the
non-payback portion of the fees, which consists of the franchise fees and the
League Operator's salary, is IMO none of the player's business.
When I was running the Seattle league I funneled $.25 per player each week to a
trophy fund, $1.00 per player to a travel fund, $1.00 to a fund for city
tournament prize money, and $1.00 per player to a points-payback fund. The
remainder of each player's weekly fees was divided between me and St. Louis.
Exactly how it was divided was only relevant to me, the APA, and Uncle Sam.
--
Dave
Derek Ray
>You probably don't know 90% of the people around columbus and if we happen to
>be so bad why are we growing and growing. Because we are the fairest.
OK, this I'm going to have to object to.
The APA is a laugher. Every team in Atlanta spends its time trying to
figure out how to keep its players from going up in skill levels. Did
you hear me? I said EVERY TEAM. I bet it's true in Columbus too. I
refuse to play in a league where there's more time spent figuring out
how to sandbag than to actually play pool.
It may make money and it may be fun, but don't talk to me about fair.
The people who are the best at hiding their true speed are the ones
who win.
-- Derek
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge."
- C. Darwin, 1871
Kirk Douglass
> you know you hedge on the verge of slander. why you continue to bad mouth
the
> APA is beyond me and I would hope everyone else has had their fill of you.
You
> don't have a clue yet you continue to speak about something you don't know
> about.
to
> be so bad why are we growing and growing. Because we are the fairest.
>
> statements. I have more pride than that.
> Nancy
Nancy,
You forget to take the Prozac or what? The gentleman you're accusing of not
having a clue has played on more leagues and played more bartable pool than
just about anyone I know! He runs around with a group of guys that played
APA pool for years. But have quit in recent years because of the rude
politics of the APA. As for your local membership growing, it's probably
because you keep expanding your territory.
As for myself if I ever play league pool again, I'll play Valley. Is the APA
fair? I know quite a few people who would argue that!
My .02,
Kirk
Ninebal310
Valley in Columbus Ohio for a few years tho.
Now, I have many friends that play in the APA, Valley and NPA. My opinion,
from what I have been told, the APA is set up more for beginners and
intermediate players. I think they want to keep out the Hustlers. I don't know
why because the Hustlers can't make any money in ANY league anyway.
Of the 3 league operators in Columbus, not one will devulge his salary and
I wouldn't expect them to. That is their business. They ALL seem to earn their
money tho. Running a league is not cheap and not easy.
The only major difference between the 3 leagues in Columbus is that the APA
will not let the handicap system be known to the public. Valley and NPA will. I
do know that the NPA has "locked" at least one player in at the maximum because
he is pro material. Is this right? I don't know but it seems fair.
I am thankful for all 3 leagues. It opens the door to billiards for all. It
promotes billiards. Who can ask for more? I also believe ALL the operators
have a little "leadway" in running their league and may bend the rules for
certain players, make the league better and increase their profits. Is that a
crime? If you work harder or better at your job, wouldn't you want more money?
Licking County Slim, I still love ya tho.......LOL
Hustlin' Hank
Dick Moecia
by the bar or a sanction fee charged to each player, I agree with you. However,
there must an accounting to all players of their weekly league dues. A pool
league is nothing more than a club and its players are members. It's my
understanding league operators have a legal obligation to disclose to their
members how their dues is ditributed and where it is spent. Most of the larger
league systems, fail sadly in this department and nobody seems to care.
Dave writes:"Not so far as knowing how much the League Operator is making.
Things like trophy funds, travel funds, etc. should certainly be disclosed, but
the non-payback portion of the fees, which consists of the franchise fees and
the League Operator's salary, is IMO none of the player's business.
When I was running the Seattle league I funneled $.25 per player each week to a
trophy fund, $1.00 per player to a travel fund, $1.00 to a fund for city
tournament prize money, and $1.00 per player to a points-payback fund. The
remainder of each player's weekly fees was divided between me and St. Louis.
Exactly how it was divided was only relevant to me, the APA, and Uncle Sam.
Dave"
tom simpson
::figure out how to keep its players from going up in skill levels. Did
::you hear me? I said EVERY TEAM. I bet it's true in Columbus too. I
::refuse to play in a league where there's more time spent figuring out
::how to sandbag than to actually play pool.
::
::It may make money and it may be fun, but don't talk to me about fair.
::The people who are the best at hiding their true speed are the ones
::who win.
I don't play leagues. One of my students recently joined APA,
here in Columbus. He was telliing me just last night that he
doesn't understand how it works. He is a 5, and says all the
other guys on the team are better than him, have been playing
APA for years, yet they are 4's. He's puzzled, but he's
beginning to think sandbagging is part of the game.
tom simpson
Bvinco
> One of my students recently joined APA,
>here in Columbus. He was telliing me just last night that he
>doesn't understand how it works. He is a 5, and says all the
>other guys on the team are better than him, have been playing
>APA for years, yet they are 4's.
If he just joined the league, it's going to take a while for his skill level to
be more accurate (10-20 match scores).
Becky
Bvinco
>I do know that the NPA has "locked" at least one player in at the maximum
>because
>he is pro material. Is this right? I don't know but it seems fair.
This is also true in APA and happens frequently around here. Also, if you
shoot in an upper level tournament and do reasonably well (win or lose), you
will be locked in at whatever skill level you left that tournament with (from
going down, not up).
I am an example of this very thing (not the pro material part), and it's fine
by me.
Becky
Bvinco
>figure out how to keep its players from going up in skill levels. Did
>you hear me? I said EVERY TEAM. I bet it's true in Columbus too.
I can speak for at least three teams in Florida and we do not try to keep the
players from going up or improving their skills (at pool OR sandbagging).
Becky
Bvinco
>APA
>will not let the handicap system be known to the public.
If you know the system, it's easier to manipulate... some people just 'think'
they're sandbagging. :o)
I've noticed that most of the people who complain the loudest about someone
else sandbagging are the ones who keep trying to do it.
Becky
Derek Ray
I hate to say it, but it's the first three APA teams I've ever heard
of who didn't make an effort to keep the players' ratings down so they
could both post *and* keep the team together. I'm curious as to how
well your team tends to do, also, because this would be likely to put
you at a sharp disadvantage in the city/regionals/whatever, what with
your honest 4s playing another team's 6s disguised as 4s.
Hugh (Licking County Slim)
see ya Kirk!
Hugh(LCS)
Kirk Douglass <kdou...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "RICH679" <ric...@aol.com> wrote in message
Hugh (Licking County Slim)
fate of your victory is in some dumb asses hand to raise your skill level!
TAKE ME TO COURT...YOU'LL GET NOTHING!. THE APA SUCKS!
Bvinco <bvi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > Every team in Atlanta spends its time trying to
> >figure out how to keep its players from going up in skill levels. Did
> >you hear me? I said EVERY TEAM. I bet it's true in Columbus too.
>
> I can speak for at least three teams in Florida and we do not try to keep
the
> players from going up or improving their skills (at pool OR sandbagging).
>
> Becky
John (Kent, WA)
the
> players from going up or improving their skills (at pool OR sandbagging).
>
> Becky
I hope this is what you intended to write -- We do try to keep players
ratings from going up at pool or improving their skills at sandbagging.
If this isn't your intention then how do your players feel about your
preventing their skills from improving.:-)
barenada
They don't try to keep players from going up.
They don't try to keep players from improving their skills at pool.
They don't try to keep players from improving their skills at sandbagging.
I'm not sure if that last point is in keeping with the spirit of the first two,
but I understood what she meant.
--
Dave
"John (Kent, WA)" <joh...@foxinternet.net> wrote in message
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Bvinco
>well your team tends to do, also, because this would be likely to put
>you at a sharp disadvantage in the city/regionals/whatever, what with
>your honest 4s playing another team's 6s disguised as 4s.
My team came in second in 'Cities' (okay, so we didn't quite make it to Vegas)
and we won the 'Money Cup' twice ($2000) in 8-ball and once in 9-ball. We
always come in first or second place every single session.
Everyone on the team has been to singles regionals. The reason we haven't made
it to Nationals isn't because we lost to cheaters, but because we messed up
somewhere along the way. We take our deserved lumps and live with them.
We've gone up and regrouped the team(s), added new players, kept some old ones.
That isn't necessarily a bad thing.
If 6's are playing disguised as 4's, the problem lies with the local league
operator and this is a major problem. If you just preceive the 6's are
disguised as 4's, then that's your problem. IMO
I've said this before and I'll say it once more... the egos in this game do not
allow for much sandbagging because you guys WANT that 6 or 7 next to your name.
Everyone wants everyone else on the team to do the sandbagging.
take a chill pill... it's just a thing
Becky <---- a 3 disguised as a 5, working on becoming a 6... soon
John (Kent, WA)
Guess I'm gonna have to go back to school and learn how to read. I even had
the message in my outbox for a while and reread it before sending. Oh well,
even men make misteaks.......but rarely.:-)
Oops my spellchecker says it should be mistakes. I know that's wrong. Lets
see...newsgroup Microsoft.spellchecker.errors.....
barenada <bare...@aye.net> wrote in message
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Dick Moecia
Becky writes:
".......... The reason we haven't made it to Nationals isn't because we lost to
cheaters, but because we messed up somewhere along the way. We take our
deserved lumps and live with them........... If 6's are playing disguised as
4's, the problem lies with the local league
operator and this is a major problem. If you just preceive the 6's are
disguised as 4's, then that's your problem. IMO
Bvinco
>>My apologies Becky.
N/P. Sometimes I talk/type in my own version of shorthand, so it's easy to get
confused. ;-)
Becky
marys...@gmail.com
> Trying to find out what all pool leagues are available
> in my area.. I live in Hilliard, OH....
>
> I know of some leagues...
>
> But do not have contact info and I know there
> are many leauges in Columbus..
>
>
> So is there a list or something..
>
>
> Dave