Pechauer vs Keith Josey

[Phil Hubbard]

Which of these makes the stiffer shaft in the $600-700 range?

[Otto]

"Phil Hubbard" <phh...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Which of these makes the stiffer shaft in the $600-700 range?
>

I know Jerry will make it as stiff as you want it.

I don't know about the other fella.

Otto

[Ted Harris]

A large percentage of Josey's cues go to Japan, where they like a very stiff
cue. And I also know that Keith will make it as stiff as you want it. BTW,
his cues are awesome.

Good Luck,
--
Ted Harris
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email to: pool...@tedharris.com

"Phil Hubbard" <phh...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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[John Germany]

All of Keith's cues hit about the same. I've got a $275 sneaky pete and an
$800 cocobola and I can tell very little difference. I played with a
Southwest for 5 years and once I picked up the Josey I never went back. I
feel that I've been shooting close to a ball better, especially on long
shots that require a harder stroke. Check out his cues at www.joseycues.com
or email him at kjo...@joseycues.com . I've hit with Pechauer cues, but I
prefer Josey. John.

Phil Hubbard <phh...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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[Mike Page]

In article <O9Y27.615$Cu2....@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "John
Germany" <nineb...@earthlink.com> wrote:

> All of Keith's cues hit about the same. I've got a $275 sneaky pete and an
> $800 cocobola and I can tell very little difference. I played with a
> Southwest for 5 years and once I picked up the Josey I never went back. I
> feel that I've been shooting close to a ball better, especially on long
> shots that require a harder stroke. Check out his cues at www.joseycues.com
> or email him at kjo...@joseycues.com . I've hit with Pechauer cues, but I
> prefer Josey. John.
>

Any thoughts about what specific characteristics of the josey cue might
make you play close to a ball better than you played with the southwest
you were accustomed to?

--
mike page
fargo

[Anthony DeAngelo]

Phil Hubbard wrote:
>
> Which of these makes the stiffer shaft in the $600-700 range?

Since I've purchased and played with multiple cues from both these
guys, I'll take a stab at this. First, I'd say both make cues which are
quite consistent. Any differences are likely be a result of the type of
wood used in the forearm. Ebony, for example, will sound and feel a
little different than maple.
Next, I'd say their respective cues play pretty similerly. I can go
back and forth with little or no adjustment. Both guys offer incredible
service (i.e. no "cuemaker's time"), and true custom capability. They
will make a shaft as stiff as you like. Keith offers laminated shafts
which are really stiff.
Both guys prefer to make cues which are on the stiff side, and a little
forward balanced. I think I remember Jerry saying that if he were
making cues just for himself they'd have a little less taper, but the
demand is for a longer taper. Of course, he'll make it any way you
like.
You can get a fine cue from either maker for less than half your price
range, so style might count for a lot here. Keith offers Uni-Lock
products, so if that appeals to you, perhaps you should take that into
consideration.
Whichever you choose, you won't go wrong.

[Joerg Klein]

Sorry I can't compare to Pechauer cues (never seen one), but the Josey cue I
have is a great stick and holds its own against other custom cues in my
collection. Hit is solid on the cue that I have, forward balanced, with a
very nice feel (this is my personal opintion naturally). The workmanship and
finish is absolutely flawless for this cue (I would think anybody who takes
a look at that cue would agree with me)!

Joerg
http://home.netvigator.com/~joerg/jk_cues.htm ---check this and scroll down
a little for the Josey cue I am talking about...

"Ted Harris" <pool...@tedharris.com> wrote in message
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[JoeyA]

Put me in your will, PLEASE.

My God, Joerg, don't you own any poor quality sticks?

JoeyA, a little greener than yesterday.
That Josey is beautiful.

"Joerg Klein" <jo...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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[John Germany]

I could hit hard with the southwest and the shaft would vibrate, however
with the Josey I can hit harder than needed and there is NO shaft vibration.
Maybe the shaft size also has something to do with it also. Have you ever
hit with a Josey cue?

Mike Page <mike...@ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote in message
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[JoeyA]

John, what is the shaft size and taper of the Josey you are speaking of?
Thanks,
Joey

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[Joerg Klein]

Oh yes I do. Recently got a stick from China, right from the factory. All
decals and deep green stain. Cost 10 USD. I think it's still value for
money...was just a mock gift from a friend but I still have it ;-)

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[Otto]

"Joerg Klein" <jo...@netvigator.com> wrote in message

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> Oh yes I do. Recently got a stick from China, right from the factory. All
> decals and deep green stain. Cost 10 USD. I think it's still value for
> money...was just a mock gift from a friend but I still have it ;-)

How does it hit?

Otto

[Joerg Klein]

Uh, the hit is not too bad, what would put me off is that the cue doesn't
feel very balanced, hard to describe. Seems to be a very light cue with some
heavy weight somewhere in the butt.

Joerg

"Otto" <nospamOtt...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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[S. Armstrong]

I can speak about both cues, seeing as I have owned a Pechauer and a Josey.
Jerry makes a very good cue. I used to played with a JP-4 early into my
pool "career", and it was a very good cue. I currently play with a Keith
Josey cue (hustler-style) that has caused me to sell every other custom cue
I own. I have ordered another cue from Keith that will be delivered some
time in September. My preferences are a stiff cue with good deflection
characteristics and a good hit. Keith has made some changes to his cues
that reflect his emphasis on playability - Micarta ferrules, Talisman tips,
Radial pin to name a few.

Your choice will most likely depend on your budget. If you have the extra
money to step up to a Josey, I'd do it.

SAA

"Joerg Klein" <jo...@netvigator.com> wrote in message

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[Frank G]

: I have ordered another cue from Keith that will be delivered some
: time in September. My preferences are a stiff cue with good
deflection
: characteristics and a good hit. Keith has made some changes to his
cues
: that reflect his emphasis on playability - Micarta ferrules,
Talisman tips,
: Radial pin to name a few.

What's all the hubbub about "radial" pin? This only means it has flat
threads as far as I know (please, enlighten me if I'm wrong). This may
have a bearing 10 - 15 years into using it, I don't know. I have cues
that have 3/8-10 pins that are 6-8 years old, used regularly, and are
still tight fitting with the original shaft(s). So, wassup with this
"radial" pin thing?
Frank

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