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LimbSaver pool cue vibration-dampener. Anyone tried it?

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Scribe3

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Jun 18, 2003, 12:16:14 PM6/18/03
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The latest Billiards Digest has a full page ad for a new product that
attaches to the butt end of a pool cue. It's a vibration-dampening
device called the LimbSaver and is meant to change the hit and
performance characteristics of a pool cue. There's an endorsement by
Grady saying how he loves the result.

I wondered if anyone has tried it, or may have seen others testing it?
My first reaction would be that the cue ball would be long gone by the
time the impact vibration could travel to the butt end for the
device's modifying effect.

Apparently it has been applied to golf clubs, tennis racquets, archery
bows, etc., and made some of the respective users happy. It will be
interesting to see if it does impress some pool players and improve
their performance. I also wonder if, applied somehow to Predator
*shafts* it might further enhance their already proven front end
physical effect.

-- DD

Wendy & John

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Jun 18, 2003, 3:48:34 PM6/18/03
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"Scribe3" <dickd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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-- DD
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The damper may have other benefits:

1.) If may provide a psychological boost because it changes
the feel of the response vibration in the stroking hand,.

2.) The inertia of the extra weight might compensate for unintended
lateral butt motion during the stroke. Some Meucci users claim
its rear-weight bias helps in this manner.

Whenever I see any new special coating, material , system or
gadget intended to improve a person's pool game, I imagine an
ultimate test of the product: Apply it to a broomstick, hand it to
Efren, and ask him if it makes his game better. If it does, I'll buy it.

John E. Ardans Las Vegas Nevada
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Dan White

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Jun 18, 2003, 4:09:59 PM6/18/03
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I wasn't aware that our shooting limb was in any danger and needed to be
saved. I'm all for innovation, but...

c'mon.
dwhite

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Tony DeAngelo

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Jun 18, 2003, 6:54:27 PM6/18/03
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Wendy & John wrote:

> Whenever I see any new special coating, material , system or
> gadget intended to improve a person's pool game, I imagine an
> ultimate test of the product: Apply it to a broomstick, hand it to
> Efren, and ask him if it makes his game better. If it does, I'll buy it.
>
> John E. Ardans Las Vegas Nevada
> _________________________________________________
>
>
>
>

That being the case, I doubt you'd need this product. I'm thinking
Efren would still shoot better with his Elkmaster and old fashioned
rubber bumper sandwiched between his Judd. It's sad though in a
way...for a minute there I was hoping I'd save enough wear and tear on
my limbs that I could leave them attached all the time.

Patrick Johnson

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Jun 18, 2003, 6:46:34 PM6/18/03
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This company makes these devices for several other sports too (bows, baseball
bats, golf clubs, rifles, even drumsticks). They don't say anything about
enhancing "performance" of these things - only claim to reduce vibrational
"sting" to increase comfort and confidence (I think there's something to that).

Their website for cue sticks is still blank, but you can see the other stuff here:

http://www.limbsaver.com/

I bet dampened vibration is what most players mostly mean when they say "solid
hit", maybe even "good hit". Dampening vibration might be worthwhile, but there
must be a simpler way to go about it. Padded grips? Rubber sleeves won't do
until they look like something you didn't take off a crutch.

Pat Johnson
Chicago

Stephen

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Jun 18, 2003, 7:54:58 PM6/18/03
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I've never found the vibration of the cue to be a bother but after a
while, the loud crack of the break can start to hurt my ears.

Anyone ever measure the sound level of a hard, smash'em up break? It
likely exceeds noise levels considered safe for the workplace. Then
again, we do all sorts of things for fun that we would never put up with
for work.

Stephen

Sidi

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Jun 19, 2003, 3:18:11 PM6/19/03
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Stephen <steely...@coldmail.com> wrote in message news:<3EF0FBD2...@coldmail.com>...

> I've never found the vibration of the cue to be a bother but after a
> while, the loud crack of the break can start to hurt my ears.
>
> Anyone ever measure the sound level of a hard, smash'em up break? It
> likely exceeds noise levels considered safe for the workplace. Then
> again, we do all sorts of things for fun that we would never put up with
> for work.
>
> Stephen

I doubt it. OSHA regulations allow worker exposure to be a continuous
90 db for an 8 hour day, which is about the level of loud music or a
lawnmower. For continuous sounds under 1/4 hour 115 db are allowed,
which is nearing the "painful" level (I've always heard that's 120
db).

For sharp noises, which breaking would be, the limit is 140 db. There
really isn't any sound people run into daily to compare this to. For
instance, for a normal stereo speaker to put out a 140 db sound for a
person standing 1 meter away it would need 65,536 watts of power
(following the doubling of power per 3 db rule and assuming a 89
db/watt/meter sensitivity, which is normal for car speakers but low
for free-standing home speakers). A 170 db sound will kill you.

http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=9735&p_text_version=FALSE

That's not to say that the sound of breaking isn't harmful, physically
and possibly psychologically. But it wouldn't be enough to make the
government step in.

Sidi

Stephen

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Jun 19, 2003, 3:24:38 PM6/19/03
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Sidi wrote:
> That's not to say that the sound of breaking isn't harmful, physically
> and possibly psychologically. But it wouldn't be enough to make the
> government step in.

Hopefully not, there are more than enough regulations as it is but at
times, the sound of the break can be painful on my ears.

Then there is the pain from the quiet plop of the nine going down on my
opponents shot.

Stephen ---> that really hurts

Stephen

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Jun 19, 2003, 3:26:14 PM6/19/03
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Sidi wrote:
> A 170 db sound will kill you.

Anyone ever measured their mother-in-law?

Sidi

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Jun 20, 2003, 11:21:44 AM6/20/03
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>A 170 db sound will kill you.

Ok, that was a poor way to put it. A 170 db sound may kill you
(depending upon the scale you go by). For some unimaginable reason no
one has sat down and started killing people with sound to see the
exact level, but I've seen estimates anywhere from 170-200 db as to
where the cutoff is. It doesn't help that there are three ways to
measure db, and most people don't list which they're using. There's
the straight air pressure, A weighting, and SEL. All of them come up
with slightly different numbers, and I think they split more the
higher you go on the scale.

khess...@gmail.com

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