Who makes the best playing Custom Cue?
9b4me
money was no object which cue maker would you pick?
Jholly
Bob Johnson
your question doesn't have to come into play. While you can order a
Southwest, a Szamboti, or a Gina when money is no object, and end up with a
very fine cue, you have numerous other options available to you. Just to
name a few, Dan Janes, Jerry Pechauer, Jim Buss, Sheldon Lebow, David
Jacoby, Showcase, Sherm Adamson, etc. Any of these makers can take a custom
order and provide you with a cue that will play as well as anything you'll
ever pick up at any price! You might start your search for a maker at
http://www.cuemakers.org/aca-rstr.htm.
My merry widow style ebony Joss cost me around $450 with 2 shafts and S&H,
and it's a hell of a fine cue for the money, if playability is most
important. It ain't gonna win a fancy cue contest, and it won't be worth a
bunch of money until long after Mr. Janes, me, and probably my kids are long
gone, but damn, it sure plays nice!
--
Bob Johnson, Denver, Co.
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"9b4me" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Bob Johnson
might as well consider a Viking custom order too. Many of the "production"
makers will take custom orders. (Have we opened the can of worms yet?).
--
Bob Johnson, Denver, Co.
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Shawn Armstrong
Chao plays with is gorgeous. I just love the look of the butterfly points
in between the long points.
The problem I have with the expensive cues, though, is that I am scared to
play with them. This is why 9b4me has my custom Josey and my Thomas Wayne
(don't think he has that cue anymore) in his collection now. I just have
trouble playing with expensive cues. I am too scared to ding or scratch the
cues because of how beautiful they are.
Shawn Armstrong
"sheldoncue" <email.to....@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
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> jsho...@hotmail.com (9b4me) wrote:
>
> > If you could order a custom cue to play with on a regular basis and
> > money was no object which cue maker would you pick?
>
> ME
>
>
> Sheldon <----- no bias at all!
Bob Johnson
love my Schulers, and Ray was never on the roster, but there seem to be a
few others that are no longer listed that I thought were.
--
Bob Johnson, Denver, Co.
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"Shawn Armstrong" <shawn.armstrong@cogecodotca> wrote in message
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WilleeCue
If money were no object I would book a plane ride to the Super Billiard Expo
and get my hands on as many different cues as possible. No doubt you will
find one there that suits you to a tee.
Buying a cue without first shooting pool with it is like shooting craps.
I think most custom cuemakers put forth a great effort to make a high
quality product but they also understand that not every cue they make will
be a perfect fit to the buyer bang out of the box. Custom cuemakers are
willing to work with the buyer and make adjustments to tune a cue to your
personal preferences.... but it is far better to narrow the field to start
with by playing with a few cues from a cuemaker BEFORE ordering your custom
dream cue. The reason is that most cuemakers tend to developed their
cuemaking skills and methods toward what they think makes a cue play well.
What they like may not be what YOU like. Even though they have the skill and
knowledge to make a cue to your specs it is better to find one that shares
your personal preferences about feel and playability. The only way you can
do that is to actually play with several cues that he thinks represent his
best efforts. Those that have a cuemaker in there home town (Houston has
several) are very lucky. But .... if money is no object ... book that
airplane ride.
Willee
"9b4me" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Shawn Armstrong
I hate to open up a big can of worms here, but I think the ACA has vey
little value to cuemaking or the billiards industry. Ray thought the idea
was good when it first started (I had this conversation with him a couple of
years ago when I ordered a cue from him - I thought it was odd that he
wasn't a member of the ACA), but changed his mind later on. I won't say why
he didn't join, but he seemed firm in his stand.
I know that I'm opening myself up to a few missiles on this one, but I
figure that a cuemaker's work will stand up for itself over the long run.
I've often thought that the ACA has been the reason behind the value of
custom cues rising dramatically over the last few years. It's absurd to me
that a production house charges $200-$300 for a nicely designed cue, yet a
plain jane from an ACA member will be $500+. It's like the oil producing
cartels of the middle east - if everyone works together, you can drive
prices up dramatically.
Shawn
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Jim Wyant
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<jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
You said "play with on a regular basis", so that implies playability is the
characteristic you are looking for.
That's somewhat like saying what vehicle would you drive or who would you
pick for a wife. Carmen Electra and a Ferrari might be a good choice, but
so would Angelina Jolie and a pickup truck. It depends on how they make you
feel and fit into your style.
I have a friend who has a Joss-West. Waited 27 months for it. Sent it back
3 or 4 times for minor changes. He loves it. There are 3 rooms that we
sometimes go to that he will not even take that cue there. So, he
alternates back and forth between the Joss-West and his old cue.
I bought a simple, purpleheart butt Layani Cue and have kept it because of
playability. But then again, I've never tried out cues from 80% of the cue
makers listed so I can't say whether I like them or not. But doing that is
kinda like trying out lots of potential spouses before picking one. A nice
exercise, but lots and lots of work.
--Jim
ratchet
sheldoncue wrote:
> jsho...@hotmail.com (9b4me) wrote:
>
> > If you could order a custom cue to play with on a regular basis and
> > money was no object which cue maker would you pick?
>
> ME
>
> Sheldon <----- no bias at all!
LOL , That's what we needed here !!! Finally an absolutely "unbiased"
answer!!
Sheldon ,you have style my friend !!
>>> Ratchet<<<
Bob Johnson
pickup truck). I'll report back on which one I preferred!
--
Bob Johnson, Denver, Co.
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"Jim Wyant" <jwy...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message >
Jim Wyant
"Shawn Armstrong" <shawn.armstrong@cogecodotca> wrote:
> Bob,
>
> I hate to open up a big can of worms here, but I think the ACA has vey
> little value to cuemaking or the billiards industry. Ray thought the idea
> was good when it first started (I had this conversation with him a couple of
> years ago when I ordered a cue from him - I thought it was odd that he
> wasn't a member of the ACA), but changed his mind later on. I won't say why
> he didn't join, but he seemed firm in his stand.
>
> I know that I'm opening myself up to a few missiles on this one, but I
> figure that a cuemaker's work will stand up for itself over the long run.
> I've often thought that the ACA has been the reason behind the value of
> custom cues rising dramatically over the last few years. It's absurd to me
> that a production house charges $200-$300 for a nicely designed cue, yet a
> plain jane from an ACA member will be $500+. It's like the oil producing
> cartels of the middle east - if everyone works together, you can drive
> prices up dramatically.
I think this is more a case of start-stop effect of custom work.
--Jim
dalecue
9b4me wrote in message <1ff8d03f.04032...@posting.google.com>...
>If you could order a custom cue to play with on a regular basis and
>money was no object which cue maker would you pick?
>
>Jholly
there is no answer to this question, unless you just want to take an opinion
poll.
There is so much variation in preference among players - that no
one cuemaker will be 'best' for all of them
Dale
MDavis0007
>>money was no object which cue maker would you pick?
Either Ed Prewitt or Mike Capone.
Mark-n-torrance
ChefBert
have ideas on a new cue,,,, only problem is it would cost 10x what the cue
you made for me and probably take you 5 years to build. Oh well this dream
cue is just fine. I had three or four people ask about my cue just the
other day. Seems people can spot quality and style from across the room,
and its all a compliment to your talents. Looking forward to playing with
you in the summer, hopefully
Bert C=:-)
"sheldoncue" <email.to....@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
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> jsho...@hotmail.com (9b4me) wrote:
>
> > If you could order a custom cue to play with on a regular basis and
> > money was no object which cue maker would you pick?
>
Paul
hit with, (Best, that is, ONLY in reference to hit). When you order a
custom cue they can be different than what you expect, NOT in a bad a
way; and then sometimes I think just hitting with a different cue
gives you another sense of feedback from a cue. My favorite cue is a
Tibbitts that I bought used and it just happened to feel great in MY
hands. I'll try another cue, think it feels good, then after a while
I just feel like going back to my Tibbitts. Obviously this isn't an
exact science and the day may come when I find a cue that I like more,
but for now I'm happy.
Paul
PS I do have a cue on order based on the specs of this cue and I'll
see if I like it when it comes.
Tony DeAngelo
The problem is that price always is an object. When I bought my playing
cue, price NEARLY wasn't an object-since I didn't have any money. I
bought a Lambros and do not regret it.
If price TRULY isn't an object, I think you should pick ME to supply
your next cue, IMO.
To be more helpful and less of a weisenheimer, my real answer is this:
find a cuemaker that you like, whose cues you like, and who has proven
that he doesn't consider himself the second coming of Michaelangelo.
Since there are a number of them out there, if you can find one locally,
that would be the one I'd recommend. I don't think any of us would
seriously postulate that one cuemaker crafts magic wands which are
superior to all others. At some point it's incumbant upon you to
communicate what you are looking for in aesthetics and playability. If
you can do that there are several candidates.
Bethowmuch
no object which cue maker would you pick?
Bob Meucci
Ducking the rotten tomatoes being thrown at me while being chased down like
a dog by a bunch of mad pool players
Sorry guys, I couldn't resist.
Billshere
with his sticks,and love the hit,Bill
Adam Jacoby
"Billshere"
> Bob Dzuriky,DZcues.com,makes my hardware.does a great job!Won many
tourny's
> with his sticks,and love the hit,Bill
I looked at some of these cues, and couldn't help but notice the point
design in many of his cues are exact knock offs of Lucasi designs...
dalecue
Adam Jacoby wrote in message <105qhvj...@corp.supernews.com>...
pot, kettle, black - Lucasi<like all the other asian wonders>
copied american cues
Dale
>
>
Adam Jacoby
is wrong...
(same shit, different day)
Adam
"dalecue" <pdg...@spamxerworldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Steve Ellis
I can't verify that this is a true story, but it is one I heard when I worked in a marine
architecture firm (remember America once built ships and other things too). Well at any
rate the story goes that the Japanese in the period before WWII were known for stealing
British ship designs and building exact duplicates. So the British created a design that
purposely had the weight distributed improperly, they let the plans leak into Japanese
hands and Japanese built it. Supposedly when they launced her, she immediately keeled
over.
Now whether this story is true or not, the point is Asia has been ripping off occidental
designs for a while. Of course occidentals were concurrently ripping off their raw
materials and cheap labor. For that matter they're still ripping off their cheap labor at
the expense of not only the asian laborers but the western ones as well and the rich get
richer.
>
>Dale
>>
>>
>
Mark0
Mark0 <--shillin'
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dalecue
Adam Jacoby wrote in message <105s2q5...@corp.supernews.com>...
>Yes, cause everything American is right, and everything from anywhere else
>is wrong...
>(same shit, different day)
I sure hope you play pool better than you read - you might try
countering the facts of what I said - rather than what you dreamed
just a thought
Dale
Wayne Schmidt
Who'd you decide on: Carmen or Angelina?
Can I have the loser?
Todd L
If you could order a custom cue to play with on a regular basis and
money was no object which cue maker would you pick?
Tim Scruggs for me
Todd L <---- Regret ever selling my first Scruggs
9b4me
Todd, we think a like. I play with a Tim Scruggs cue also. I have
two other custom cues on order that I haven't received yet which are
not Tim Scruggs cues and that's why I asked what others on this group
thought about the different custom cue maker choices.
Jholly
Bob Johnson
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Bob Johnson, Denver, Co.
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Mark0
Mark0 :O)
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Jimbo Ct
Nice list.
C E : > In alphabetical order:
Do you mean you can't tell the difference in all of them as far as "hit"
goes??? Or do you not want to step on anyone's toes??
Jim <-------- Wants them in order of hit :-)
John Barton
Ted Harris
Dan Janes - Joss East
Old Schons
Andy Gilbert
Bill Stroud - Josswest
Those are the best cues out of the box in my opinion for the "hit". I can't
rank them because to me they are all eqaully good yet slightly different.
These are all the ones that I have always felt comfortable enough with to
use immediately to gamble with.
I have a lot of other cues that I like and some that I love but the ones
above are the ones that I have had the experience of owning or trying
several examples of each and so get my vote for consistency of hit across
the board.
John
Vince
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> Bob Dzuriky,DZcues.com,makes my hardware.does a great job!Won many
tourny's
> with his sticks,and love the hit,Bill
>
I agree. I've ordered three cues from Bob, and they were all winners. His
prices are still reasonable, he's a gentleman, and he has enough integrity
to tell you if he thinks you're making a mistake in some aspect of the cue's
construction or design.
Vince
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I tried a Capone a couple months ago and really liked it. It became a part
of my arm like other cue I've ever used (i.e. Mottey, Gina, and Wayne). I
just couldn't help but stroke right with it.
Vince
"Vince" <lcac...@gol.com> wrote in message
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> It became a part
> of my arm like other cue I've ever used (i.e. Mottey, Gina, and Wayne).
That should read: It becamea part of my arm like NO other cue...
