'Laimbeer' the most hated man in NBA
Gloria Moy
celtic-piston matchups. Bill Laimbeer fell running down court and tried to
grab on to Rober Parish's leg to prevent him from running court. Then again
he fits right in there with the Pistons
Go Knicks!
Darcy BROCKBANK
>Bill Lambeer is nothing more than a bully.
Bill Laimbeer is a crucial part of the Piston offence. He may not
have the athletic grace of a Jordan but he is an excellent rebounder (he
lead the league on year) and a deadly shooter.
Opposing teams have to respect his shooting ability which causes a
big man, often a shot blocker to follow Laimbeer out of the paint.
This opens things up for Dumars, Thomas and Johnson to penetrate the
paint, scoring and drawing fouls.
I have never seen a team win a championship with only 4 out of 5
starters possessing basketball skills. Laimbeer should be a good
example to follow, because he has succeeded and become a champion
despite his athletic shortcomings through hard work and discipline.
- db
ps. You would love him if he played for your team !!
Dave Jordan
Excellent posting! In all the noise about Laimbeer on the net,
the real point was getting lost. Thanks for pointing out the
facts. BTW, I wonder what Michael Jordan would have said if
asked about getting LAIMBEER for CARTWRIGHT? :-)
People say he's a whiner, but he's an IRONMAN who's played in every
game the last 10 seasons except 2. Nobody in the league comes more
prepared to play than Laimbeer, who always gives 100% on the floor.
Another often-heard criticism is that Laimbeer pushes and uses
his elbows, but show me a big man in the NBA who doesn't, and I'll
show you a *real* stiff who spends most of his time on the bench!
While Laimbeer has the reputation as a "dirty" player, his technicals
this year don't even come close to RICK MAHORN, his former teammate
and fellow badboy. Some of the net comments about Laimbeer have
been downright stupid - he can't really play so he plays dirty...
Any basketball fan of any intelligence can see that Laimbeer is a
excellent outside shooter, can rebound with the best, has great
hands and passing skills for a big guy, and plays tough position "D".
Oh, another ill-conceived mis-perception - he can't block shots.
Sure, he's not much of a leaper, but he leads the team in blocks
as he did last year, when he has over 100! Not bad for a stiff, eh?
Does anyone in L.A. remember the game last year where Byron Scott
was cruising to the hoop for a easy stuff when Laimbeer came streaking
from out of nowhere to cleanly reject the shot? I didn't hear anyone
complain about dirty play then either.
Regards,
DJ
cs2...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
>Oh, another ill-conceived mis-perception - he can't block shots.
>Sure, he's not much of a leaper, but he leads the team in blocks
>as he did last year, when he has over 100! Not bad for a stiff, eh?
Forgetting somebody? I think Spider has about forty more blocks than Bill
this year. I do agree with the tone of the last few notes - Laimbeer does
play dirty, but he's one of the most talented big men in the game. There's
no way he compares with Mahorn in the brass knuckles department, or even
Joe Duuuuuuuuuumaaaaaarrrrs (he's not dirty - I just had to say his name).
Joe Sterbenc
U of Deon Thomas
Darcy BROCKBANK
>Another often-heard criticism is that Laimbeer pushes and uses
>his elbows, but show me a big man in the NBA who doesn't, and I'll
>show you a *real* stiff who spends most of his time on the bench!
BRAD SELLERS !!
- db
Subrata Sircar
Lambeer can play; anybody who can make the starting five of an NBA championship
team can play this game. It is foolish to think otherwise.
What I dislike about him is that he whines; the same moves and elbows he dishes
out at his end of the floor, he complains about at the other. That's bullshit.
Many others dish out elbows and body slams (including Bird, and Magic) -
contact is clearly a part of NBA (and college) basketball. Lambeer tends to
dish out contact when it is unnecessary, and complains about the same move
at the other end of the floor. I liked Mahorn because he would crunch you at
one end of the floor, and get crunched at the other. You should be able to
take it if you're gonna dish out.
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Ben Salvadori
> his elbows, but show me a big man in the NBA who doesn't, and I'll
> show you a *real* stiff who spends most of his time on the bench!
-- Yeah we often here the criticism and it is often true. I do not
suppose you remember a game last year between your beloved Pistons
and the Cavs. It was the last time these two teams would meet
in Detroit and Cleveland was contending for the division crown.
I seem to remember Laimbeer giving an elbow to the -head- of Mark
Price. He was out for the next four games.
Oh, He was just playing the game.
Right!
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Xaiver, Saturday March 3, 1990
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>
>Lambeer can play; anybody who can make the starting five of an NBA championship
>team can play this game. It is foolish to think otherwise.
>
>What I dislike about him is that he whines; the same moves and elbows he dishes
>out at his end of the floor, he complains about at the other. That's bullshit.
>Many others dish out elbows and body slams (including Bird, and Magic) -
This comment is ridiculous. Magic moans and wines about calls more than
anyone else in the NBA. What makes it even more stupid, is that Magic
gets many more calls in his favor than does Laimbeer.
-bob
edward.lor
>starters possessing basketball skills.
You may not have followed basketball that long.
1982 Lakers - Kurt Rambis
1983 76ers - Marc Ivaroni
1985 Lakers - Kurt Rambis
We have never heard of anything about the skills of Rambis and Ivaroni,
have we?
--
Edward Lor
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Gidi Avrahami
>
>1982 Lakers - Kurt Rambis
>1983 76ers - Marc Ivaroni
>1985 Lakers - Kurt Rambis
>
>We have never heard of anything about the skills of Rambis and Ivaroni,
>have we?
Actually I have, because Kurt is still mentioned from time to time
round here, mostly when one of his old high-school or college records
(at Santa Clara) is broken.
Does anyone have Kurt's collegiate numbers? Better yet, which book
would have these numbers? The fat "NBA encyclopedias" I browse through
in book stores don't carry them.
On a related note, has anyone noticed that Golden State has been
officially renamed Seven Foot Stiff Heaven? Bol still rules the
roost but after losing Feitel, Sampson and Blab the Warriors
picked up Welp and Smrek... I shudder to think about the trauma
that Don Nelson must have gone through as a child to cause him to
chase, drooling, after all these fine young specimen.
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Darcy BROCKBANK
> I seem to remember Laimbeer giving an elbow to the -head- of Mark
> Price. He was out for the next four games.
> Oh, He was just playing the game.
> Right!
> Go U.D. Flyers
> Xaiver, Saturday March 3, 1990
> Ben Salvadori
Everyone can recall at some time an opposing player striking one
of his hometown faves...
1986 (I think) Robert Parish brutally attacks Bill Laimbeer, hitting
him 3 times and knocking him to the floor. No foul is called though
Parish receives a $5,000 fine.
1988 Magic Johnson knocks I. Thomas to the floor during the Finals.
etc...
(Jeez, If I had a penny for every time someone took a shot at Laimbeer
or Mahorn I would be Mundo rich.)
Physicality is part of the game; if you can`t take a little rough
stuff then go play checkers.
- db, Bill Laimbeer fan club.
Darcy BROCKBANK
hey eddie, try him at a game of one on one...
Naw... When you are playing with Magic and Kareem (and Worthy too) are
you going to be a shooter ? You can be but other things are required
for a team (a TEAM) to be great.
Rambis was a banger for the Lakers sure, but he played his part and
did what the coach wanted him to do. That`s what makes a good player.
You are a fool if you think he has no skills. I can`t vouch for
Ivaroni, but it is silly to state that a player from 7 years ago had no skills
because all the 10 year olds across the country don`t have posters
of him on the walls, or are wearing Air Ivaroni shoes.
Don`t judge them by how much they are talked about, judge them by
their impact. Rambis and Ivaroni were champions, and made their
contributions.
Anyway, if they have no skills, then why do they start ??
Do they give good head or something ??
- db
Dave Jordan
>
> suppose you remember a game last year between your beloved Pistons
> and the Cavs. It was the last time these two teams would meet
> in Detroit and Cleveland was contending for the division crown.
>
> I seem to remember Laimbeer giving an elbow to the -head- of Mark
> Price. He was out for the next four games.
>
> Oh, He was just playing the game.
>
> Right!
>
ran into Laimbeer coming from behind him down the court. It's
unfortunate that Price was out for four games, but if the NBA felt
that was an intentional, flagrant foul on Laimbeer's part I'm sure
that Rod Thorn would not have hesitated to levy a fine or even
suspend him. In the impartial judgement of the NBA, there was no
such intention on Laimbeer's part, hence no fine or suspension.
Your comments are reminiscent of the hysteria of the Milwaukee fans
last year after the Larry Krystowiak incident in the playoffs.
Despite the fact that replays *clearly* showed no contact between
Laimbeer and Krystowiak, because Laimbeer was standing next to
him when his knee blew out everyone *assumed* it was a dirty play
on Laimbeer's part. The Milwaukee coach was flaming on about
how Laimbeer destroyed this guy's career - what bullshit!!
I'm not saying Laimbeer is an angel - his takedown of Larry Bird
a few years back is an example of his bad side - but his rep has
been blown way out of proportion. Want to talk about dirty plays?
How about the playoffs in Boston a few years ago when ROBERT PARISH
started bashing Laimbeer's head from behind (with no provocation
observable on the replays) with forearm shots, knocking him to the
ground!?? I've *never* seen Laimbeer try to bash someone's head
like that! And what happened? Nothing - instead of ejecting Parish
like they should have, he didn't even get a damn technical foul!
And do we hear any talk about Parish being a "dirty" player?
Of course not.
The moral of the story is, Laimbeer is no angel, but he who is without
sin cast ye the first stone, or keep your hypocritical mouth shut!
DJ
hunk + y = hyunk
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hyunk
edward.lor
> suppose you remember a game last year between your beloved Pistons
> and the Cavs. It was the last time these two teams would meet
> in Detroit and Cleveland was contending for the division crown.
>
> I seem to remember Laimbeer giving an elbow to the -head- of Mark
> Price. He was out for the next four games.
OK, let's give credit where credit is due.
The guy who elbowed Price, which sidelined him for 4 games, was NOT LAIMBEER.
It was Rick Mahorn.
Mahorn was suspended by the NBA for a game or two because of that elbow.
Get the fact straight.
BTW, I like Laimbeer, just because he handles the Boston thugs by
fighting fire with fire. He is a vigilante to all Boston haters.
Jason Rosenberg
>
>Actually I have, because Kurt is still mentioned from time to time
>round here, mostly when one of his old high-school or college records
>(at Santa Clara) is broken.
>
>Does anyone have Kurt's collegiate numbers? Better yet, which book
>would have these numbers? The fat "NBA encyclopedias" I browse through
>in book stores don't carry them.
>
NBA players, as well as their CBA and European stats, if available. It
is a great book, but not complete for the historical buff, because it
only has active players.
Rambis' collegiate record:
Year G Min FGA FGM Pct FTA FTM Pct Reb Pts Avg
76-77 27 ... 317 167 .527 125 70 .560 313 404 15.0
77-78 27 ... 268 136 .507 143 99 .692 231 371 13.7
78-79 27 763 336 172 .512 109 78 .716 226 422 15.6
79-80 27 860 395 211 .534 168 107 .637 267 529 19.6
---------------------------------------------------------------
Total 108 ... 1316 686 .521 545 354 .650 1037 1726 16.0
Jason Rosenberg 3531 Boelter Hall
University of California
ja...@cs.ucla.edu Los Angeles, CA 90024
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Anthony James Nurse
> Price. He was out for the next four games.
> Oh, He was just playing the game.
Sorry to burst your bubble Laimbeer haters, but that elbow was from
Rick Mahorn.
Tony
Samir K. Misra
> Price. He was out for the next four games.
In a Bulls-Pistons game late last season - may have been in the playoffs - the
players were slowly running from one end of the court to the other after
someone scored. Jordan was trotting along, and Laimbeer came running behind him
and went out of his way to give him a shove from behind. Jordan just gave him a
look of disgust, shook his head and played on.
Oh, that was just a love pat? Right!
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>As I recall Mark Price was not the victim of a swinging elbow - he
>ran into Laimbeer coming from behind him down the court. It's
>unfortunate that Price was out for four games, but if the NBA felt
>that was an intentional, flagrant foul on Laimbeer's part I'm sure
>that Rod Thorn would not have hesitated to levy a fine or even
>suspend him. In the impartial judgement of the NBA, there was no
>such intention on Laimbeer's part, hence no fine or suspension.
You recall wrong. Price was coming up the court, the Laime one was
guarding his own man, and as Price tried to run past them, Laime
intentionally elbowed Price in the face. Laime was looking at Price as he
was coming up the floor! It was not accidental.
Dave, you're letting your local Piston team spirit get in the way of the
obvious: Laimbeer is a cheap shot artist. The players know it, the fans
know it, you know it. If Laime was a Laker, you'd be flaming on him just
like us.
Now that doesn't mean the guy isn't a good player. As much as I dispise
him, he is a good outside shooter, rebounder, and defender. I just hate
his guts, that's all.
>The moral of the story is, Laimbeer is no angel, but he who is without
>sin cast ye the first stone, or keep your hypocritical mouth shut!
There are other 'dirty' players in the league, and you're probably right
that Laime gets all the attention because of his rep.
>DJ
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>...Want to talk about dirty plays?
>How about the playoffs in Boston a few years ago when ROBERT PARISH
>started bashing Laimbeer's head from behind (with no provocation
>observable on the replays) with forearm shots, knocking him to the
>ground!??
Ha what a laugh!!! That incident happened in game 5 of the Eastern
Conference Final and Parish was receiving cheap shots from Laimbeer all
week long. The Chief finally had enough, lost his cool and retaliated. The
word you use above is 'observable'. Just because CBS didn't catch the incident
that triggered Parish's attack, doesn't mean Laimbeer didn't do anything!!! Or
do you *really* believe that Parish punched out Laimbeer without provocation???
Be real!!!
>...I've *never* seen Laimbeer try to bash someone's head
>like that!
That because Laimbeer is a wimp!!! He throws blatent elbow constantly,
then when another player has had enough and comes after Bill, he backpedals
until his teamates rescue him! It used to be Mahorn that would step in, this
year Edwards seems to be the crybaby's protector!!!
>.. And what happened? Nothing - instead of ejecting Parish
>like they should have, he didn't even get a damn technical foul!
You're correct in Parish did not receive a T that game,( the refs had
already headed up court following play when Parish hit Laimbeer, they just
didn't see it!) but you neglect to mention that he was fined and suspended for
the 6th Game. Parish was wrong and he was punished by the league.
>And do we hear any talk about Parish being a "dirty" player?
>Of course not.
You're right and its because Parish is NOT a dirty player. The incident
with Laimbeer is the only time in his 9 1/2 year Boston career that I can
recall him actually hitting anyone!!! Laimbeer, on the other hand, gets
involved in these situations on a regular basis!!!
>
>The moral of the story is, Laimbeer is no angel, but he who is without
>sin cast ye the first stone, or keep your hypocritical mouth shut!
You're right, he isn't an angel, not even close. As for the rest of
you last sentence, I guess if I don't share you views on Laimbeer I'm
hypocritical (sic)!!! Well in all my years of playing hoop I know I've
never intentionaly elbowed anybody in the face. Laimbeer can't say that!
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Darcy BROCKBANK
> hyunk
Can someone explain this to me ? I`m feeling a little slow.
-db
Darcy BROCKBANK
In article <32...@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> ja...@lanai.UUCP (Jason Rosenberg) writes:
>Rambis' collegiate record:
>Year G Min FGA FGM Pct FTA FTM Pct Reb Pts Avg
>76-77 27 ... 317 167 .527 125 70 .560 313 404 15.0
>77-78 27 ... 268 136 .507 143 99 .692 231 371 13.7
>78-79 27 763 336 172 .512 109 78 .716 226 422 15.6
>79-80 27 860 395 211 .534 168 107 .637 267 529 19.6
---------------------------------------------------------------
>Total 108 ... 1316 686 .521 545 354 .650 1037 1726 16.0
>Jason Rosenberg 3531 Boelter Hall
No skills... yeah right !!
- db
(snickersnicker)
Darcy BROCKBANK
>In article <13...@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> d...@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Dave Jordan) writes:
> Laimbeer is a cheap shot artist. The players know it, the fans
>know it, you know it.
Aww, come on now !! You obviously have your own opinion but please do
not degrade yourself by childish statements like this. If everyone did
this then the whole net would fall into a war of Is not...Is too...
Is not and your mother wears combat boots... Oh yeah, well my
father can beat up your father... etc.
So express your opinions, don`t repress others'.
>Mike Tankenson Telos/Jet Propulsion Laboratory
- db
- Member, Bill Laimbeer fanclub
Still waiting for that Canadian franchise.
Dave Jordan
>
>>As I recall Mark Price was not the victim of a swinging elbow - he
>>ran into Laimbeer coming from behind him down the court. It's
>>unfortunate that Price was out for four games, but if the NBA felt
>>that was an intentional, flagrant foul on Laimbeer's part I'm sure
>>that Rod Thorn would not have hesitated to levy a fine or even
>>suspend him. In the impartial judgement of the NBA, there was no
>>such intention on Laimbeer's part, hence no fine or suspension.
>
>You recall wrong. Price was coming up the court, the Laime one was
>guarding his own man, and as Price tried to run past them, Laime
>intentionally elbowed Price in the face. Laime was looking at Price as he
>was coming up the floor! It was not accidental.
>
You are right Mike - I recalled wrong. As it turns out it wasn't
Laimbeer who was involved in this incident, it was Mahorn. Interesting
the way the story got "changed". I verified this by talking with a
couple of other people whose memories of this is better than ours.
Interesting how opinions affect perception/memory, isn't it?
>Dave, you're letting your local Piston team spirit get in the way of the
>obvious: Laimbeer is a cheap shot artist. The players know it, the fans
>know it, you know it. If Laime was a Laker, you'd be flaming on him just
>like us.
>
Whether or not you think he is a "cheap-shot artist" is a matter of
opinion. The NBA has made it clear that they do not tolerate fighting
and will not hesitate to take serious action against any violators of
that policy regardless of who it might be. What I *do* think Laimbeer
does is *provoke* other players to throw them out of their games.
Now, maybe that is despicable - but it's legal and part of the game.
Psychological warfare is part of all competitive sports (even civilized
games like chess) and while some of us may not like these sorts of
tactics, they are nonetheless part of the game.
>Now that doesn't mean the guy isn't a good player. As much as I dispise
>him, he is a good outside shooter, rebounder, and defender. I just hate
>his guts, that's all.
>
Would you hate his guts if he were a Laker? :-)
As an aside, Laimbeer does alot of work for local charities and non-profit
organizations. All accounts of Laimbeer the person is that he is a nice
guy off the court and pretty articulate.
>>The moral of the story is, Laimbeer is no angel, but he who is without
>>sin cast ye the first stone, or keep your hypocritical mouth shut!
>
>There are other 'dirty' players in the league, and you're probably right
>that Laime gets all the attention because of his rep.
>
BTW Mike, all the negative publicity about this guy could start a
new nickmame - "Name-smear".
Mike Tankenson
>In article <72...@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV> mi...@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV (Mike Tankenson) writes:
Sorry Darcy, in my humble opinion...
>> Laimbeer is a cheap shot artist. The players know it, the fans
>>know it, you know it.
First, I guess I should apologize for crediting Laime with a cheap shot he
didn't commit (it was Mahorn). My humble opinion of your hero stills
stands. The players know it (Parish refuses to shake his hand, MJ thinks
he is dirty, etc). The fans know it (at least this fan). And I think even
most loyal Piston fans know it. This does not detract from their rooting
for him however.
Hey, I like the LA Raiders who (when they were good) were considered cheap
shot artists. You can attack my opinions if you want. As to whether I
would 'like' Laime if he were a Laker, it's hard to say. When Maurice
Lucas played for the Lakers, I rooted for him -- but when he attacked Akeem
from behind in the playoffs I was embarrassed.
>- db
>- Member, Bill Laimbeer fanclub
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Prakash Narain
>> I seem to remember Laimbeer giving an elbow to the -head- of Mark
>> Price. He was out for the next four games.
>OK, let's give credit where credit is due.
You mean, `let's give discredit where discredit is due'.
>The guy who elbowed Price, which sidelined him for 4 games, was NOT LAIMBEER.
>It was Rick Mahorn.
>BTW, I like Laimbeer, just because he handles the Boston thugs by
>fighting fire with fire. He is a vigilante to all Boston haters.
Even when he attempts to take Byron Scott's head off his neck? Actually,
come to think of it, Scott is a thug. The guy looks just downright
menacing.
I like Laimbeer too. He whines, moans and cries but less than Magic.
And talking of cheap shots, what about all the tears that Magic leaves
on the floor, intentionally, to make the opposing players slip.
Finally, on the subject of elbows, if you have sharp ones, why not use
them? Bill Cartwright showed Fred Roberts and Isiah Thomas that it is
not easy to handle sharp elbows. Rick Mahorn demonstrated to Mark
Price that an elbow is force to be reconed with. Magic, on the other
hand goofed it up totally. Not only did he miss badly while trying to
bash Isiah's face into his skull, he also got slapped with a technical.
Talk about screwing up a premeditated act. Atleast Laimbeer picked
Scott. The height difference there is only 7". Magic is atleast 8"
taller than Isiah. And the difference becomes more pronounced when
you consider it in terms of percentages.
> Edward Lor
Prakash
ps: You must have heard that the Celtics are going to get Shaw back.
I guess that the fans can again start bragging about how the
Celts pulled the rug from under Jerry West's feet. And it has
become worse because not only are the Celts getting Shaw back,
the Lakers have no hope of getting David Rivers back.
John S. Hill
>In article <3333...@acf4.NYU.EDU> m...@acf4.NYU.EDU (Gloria Moy) writes:
>>Bill Lambeer is nothing more than a bully.
>
>
>I have never seen a team win a championship with only 4 out of 5
>
Try the 1982-1983 Sixers. Marc Iavaroni (sp?) was only out there to
take up space. Iavaroni started just about every game, and Bobby Jones
finished just about every game. This team was still the best that I've ever
seen.
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edward.lor
>> G FGA FGM FG% FTA FTM FT% Reb Pts Avg
>>Total 108 ... 1316 686 .521 545 354 .650 1037 1726 16.0
>
You get it right on the money!!
Please enlighten me how the above stats correlate with skills.
Checking out the NBA Register, I can easily find 20 players with comparable
stats. Let's look at a few of them:
G FGA FGM FG% FTA FTM FT% Reb Pts Avg
A 122 1558 849 .545 513 336 .655 1074 2034 16.7
B 71 961 558 .581 435 308 .708 703 1424 20.1
C 105 1416 799 .564 632 440 .696 1051 2038 18.5
D 129 1440 820 .569 600 433 .722 995 2073 16.1
E 107 1119 709 .634 631 332 .526 977 1750 16.4
F 123 1276 713 .559 552 358 .649 1169 1784 14.5
These stats look very much alike Rambis'. And unlike Santa Clara's WCAC,
these stats were all achieved in MAJOR conferences. Factor in the
competition, these players must be very skillful superstars, right?
Well, these very skillful players are (not in order):
Walter Berry, Mark Acres, Christian Welp, James Bailey, John Koncak, and
Mark McNamara, all NBA stiffs/journeymen.
The hard fact is: college stats tell us almost NOTHING about a player, not
his skills, not his potential, not his work-ethics, nothing.
Don't get me wrong. All Lakers fans root for Rambis because of his
contributions to the championship. But we like him not because of his skills,
but because of his hustle, body-sacrificing, do-the-dirty-work
working-class-ethics. In a team of finesse artists, Rambis is someone
the Lakers badly need.
Two years ago, when Rambis left the Lakers for Charlotte, I ranted on the
net that "superstar Rambis was going to lead the Hornets past the Celtics
to Eastern Conference supremacy". Someone (I think it's Gary) even claimed that
Rambis was a dog/pondscum who didn't know how to play basketball ...
GaRY NEwelL
I believe that I said scum-sucking pig-dog.... but I could be wrong... 8-)
(about what I said - not that he is one.....)
GArY nEWElL