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Shocking! Bulls in six. MJ hits winning shot

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the bean

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Jun 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/14/98
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while suffering from acute exhaustion. Wow. NBA/C needs to search for a
new angle. My favorite part was when Jordan tapped Russell on the leg
before the "game winner" to remind him not to get too close - and then they
had the horrible announcers call it a slight push for an excuse.

Even the most die-hard believers that the NBA/C is not rigged will have a
tough time explaining this one with the storybook ending. Malone didn't
even look disappointed - because he knew the conclusion before it
happened!!!

benjamin smith

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Jun 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/14/98
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the bean wrote:

I'm tired of the gushing over Jordan. Poor shooting percentage all of the
finals and the preliminary rounds as well. Missed tons of shots down the
stretch. Wasn't perfect at the free throw line. Yes, an impact player but no
God this year. He was *very* human this year and at times Pippin and Kukoc
played much better than Jordan.

I think the best player on the court was Stockton, Jordan the best scorer
provided he gets over 28 or so shots. I think the Jazz should have found a way
to get to closer, a 3 just isn't the shot you need down 1 point, you need 2
points. Stockton's shot - short, rebound could have been tipped by Carr, but
did not bounce his way.

But what will continue to bug me is Isley hit that damned 3 pointer with 1
second on the clock. It is too annoying that the refs can be allowed to blow
this. Here is one area where I wish there was replay and maybe there needs to
be replay. It wasn't close, it was obvious.

Yes, the Jazz could have executed better down the stretch but they weren't
bad. They needed those three points. The correct score is Jazz 89 Bulls 86 and
we should be going to a deciding game 7.

Ben S.


Tony Minkoff

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In article <3584a...@news.abcs.com>, "the bean" <bea...@abcs.com> wrote:
> Even the most die-hard believers that the NBA/C is not rigged will have a
> tough time explaining this one with the storybook ending.

Jordan's last shot was scripted? Wow. I wonder how many takes they needed.

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Tony Minkoff
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Robert Nicholson

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Jun 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/14/98
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Sorry but you cannot just add 3 points. Teams play totally different
depending on the score so you can't just assume every play down the
stretch is the same if they are up 3 points. Also, What about the offensive
foul on Rodman that gave up a possession and if you ask me the defensive
foul they called on Rodman before that was complete malarkey.

Donna Anderson

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Jun 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/15/98
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Good point...there were tough calls going both ways, including a couple
of mysterious foul calls on rodman on malone. Anyone who complains
about officiating may as well be saying "I am jealous as hell that the
bulls won again". Michael

Alvin Cham

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Jun 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/15/98
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In article <tminkoff-140...@dt062n70.san.rr.com>,

Tony Minkoff <tmin...@cts.com> wrote:
>In article <3584a...@news.abcs.com>, "the bean" <bea...@abcs.com> wrote:
>> Even the most die-hard believers that the NBA/C is not rigged will have a
>> tough time explaining this one with the storybook ending.
>
>Jordan's last shot was scripted? Wow. I wonder how many takes they needed.
>

comments on whether Jordan's left hand touched the ball on his last dribble
before his last shot? I cannot confirm it, but it sure looks like a double
dribble on replay. :-) The guy just knows what he can get away with.

-alvin

Anthony Ye

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Jun 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/15/98
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Good point. It is probably going to make Bull's comeback harder, but its no
guarantee that they would not come back. Regarding that 2 blown calls, they
both look bad, but that's what I thought was happend: The ref expected a
normal jump shot release from Eisley, who actually releases that three
extremely quickly. They blew that whistle even before Eisley released the
shot because they probably thought there's no way he can get the ball off in
time. On the second time around, since they already blew a call, the ref's
whistle is much more conservative now, and although Harper's shot is a lot
closer to the shot clock, it is still very hard to tell in real time(pretty
obvious in replay I know).

Anthony

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Mike

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Jun 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/15/98
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if you want to talk about excuses, than the Jazz would have won it if
the damn refs didn't call off Eisley's shot at the end of the half, AND
they wouldn't have counted Ron Harpers shot since the shot clock already
went off.
I can't believe, you are complaining even when the Bulls still won. What
a *BEEP* wuss.

jsem...@my-dejanews.com

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Jun 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/15/98
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In article <yl37m2j...@shell8.ba.best.com>,

Robert Nicholson <ste...@shell8.ba.best.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry but you cannot just add 3 points. Teams play totally different
> depending on the score so you can't just assume every play down the
> stretch is the same if they are up 3 points. Also, What about the offensive
> foul on Rodman that gave up a possession and if you ask me the defensive
> foul they called on Rodman before that was complete malarkey.
>
At last, a voice of reason! I've always been amazed at the intrincate
conspiracies some sport fans (to use the term loosely) will come up with
in order to explain why THEIR team didn't win. Altough amusing at first
glance, this reasoning always reveal a deep feeling of negativism and a
clear disregard for facts over wishful thinking. It's good to find a
well-written, factually accurate post like yours, Robert. The only shame
is having it buried among the usual inane comments on the following
mold:

"JORDON SUX!!! He has bought the refs or sumthin becuase he always gets
da whistles and he can't play D so he fouls everyone and he's a
ball-hogging, brick shooting wannabe who makes mor in a game than I'll
ever see in a lifetime and NBA/C is one big lame league who has rigged
the finals always except when my team winZ!!!"

Back to the main subject, I agree with your post, Robert. The game plan
unfolds differently with every basket, every foul and YES, every
refereeing error. This last aspect is called "imponderable", and its a
variable subject that coaches and players expect with each game. No need
for everyone to think a certain basket decided the game. It's like
saying that after getting an "F" at third grade the teacher threw my
whole academic future out the window...

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Selom Ofori

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Jun 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/15/98
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> comments on whether Jordan's left hand touched the ball on his last dribble
> before his last shot? I cannot confirm it, but it sure looks like a double
> dribble on replay. :-) The guy just knows what he can get away with.
>
> -alvin

he did not double dribble. He drove, while coming to the sudden stop, his left
hand was over Russel's calf, the Right bounces the ball to his left and that's
when he rises and shoots.

btw, do utah fans really expect the refs to call a foul considering the
questionable foul on Russel? hell no. There was worse contact throughout the
game.


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