Jordan - Top 5 All-Time In Triple-Doubles?
F. Barlas
Yep, behind Magic, Bird, Fat Lever, and Grant Hill, is "jordon", the
"foolish, one dimensional ballhog", with 28 triples doubles to his name,
which puts him #5 on the all-time list. He will soon be passed by Jason
Kidd, and if we assume that Oscar Robertson is the true leader had stats
been kept back then, Jordan still lands in the top 10. Not bad for a
"1-dimensional ballhog", huh, Fudden?
Tony Minkoff
(F. Barlas) wrote:
> Yep, behind Magic, Bird, Fat Lever, and Grant Hill, is "jordon", the
> "foolish, one dimensional ballhog", with 28 triples doubles to his name,
> which puts him #5 on the all-time list. He will soon be passed by Jason
> Kidd, and if we assume that Oscar Robertson is the true leader had stats
> been kept back then, Jordan still lands in the top 10.
If they had counted triple-doubles back then, I think Wilt Chamberlain
would have been right up there with Oscar. Chamberlain had double-digits
in points and rebounding virtually every game, and had a lot of
double-digit assists games, too (he actually led the league in assists for
a season). Had blocks been kept as a statistic as well as "doubles",
Chamberlain would undoubtedly have a great number of quadruple-doubles to
his name.
Bill Russell would probably have had a lot of triple-doubles, and an
occassional quadruple-double, too. I imagine Rick Barry would have had at
least 28. (Does the ABA count?) Wes Unseld might have had 28...
There are probably several players who would have had 28 but played at a
time when triple doubles were not counted. I'm pretty sure that Jordan
would not land in the top ten if we counted unofficial triple-doubles from
times before triple-doubles were kept as a statistic.
--
Tony Minkoff
admi...@uswest.net
Roger Dal Castello
: Yep, behind Magic, Bird, Fat Lever, and Grant Hill, is "jordon", the
: "foolish, one dimensional ballhog", with 28 triples doubles to his name,
: which puts him #5 on the all-time list. He will soon be passed by Jason
: Kidd, and if we assume that Oscar Robertson is the true leader had stats
: been kept back then, Jordan still lands in the top 10. Not bad for a
: "1-dimensional ballhog", huh, Fudden?
Once again someone has to bring up a stat that has 'JUST
COME TO THEIR ATTENTION' but which has already been argued
to death.
What next are you going to tell us all that Jordan is top 5
in steals?
Roger D.C
Eric Bin
>Yep, behind Magic, Bird, Fat Lever, and Grant Hill, is "jordon", the
>"foolish, one dimensional ballhog", with 28 triples doubles to his name,
>which puts him #5 on the all-time list. He will soon be passed by Jason
>Kidd, and if we assume that Oscar Robertson is the true leader had stats
>been kept back then, Jordan still lands in the top 10. Not bad for a
>"1-dimensional ballhog", huh, Fudden?
Fudden will have two words for you: Doug Collins.
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Leroy
> on the 2 Mar 1999 06:23:55 GMT F. Barlas yelped :
>
> : Yep, behind Magic, Bird, Fat Lever, and Grant Hill, is "jordon", the
> : "foolish, one dimensional ballhog", with 28 triples doubles to his name,
> : which puts him #5 on the all-time list. He will soon be passed by Jason
> : Kidd, and if we assume that Oscar Robertson is the true leader had stats
> : been kept back then, Jordan still lands in the top 10. Not bad for a
> : "1-dimensional ballhog", huh, Fudden?
>
> Once again someone has to bring up a stat that has 'JUST
> COME TO THEIR ATTENTION' but which has already been argued
> to death.
> What next are you going to tell us all that Jordan is top 5
> in steals?
>
> Roger D.C
Jordan is multi-dimensional. Bball, movies, commercials, and talk show
appearances.
mta...@disc.dla.mil
> "foolish, one dimensional ballhog", with 28 triples doubles to his name,
> which puts him #5 on the all-time list. He will soon be passed by Jason
> Kidd, and if we assume that Oscar Robertson is the true leader had stats
> been kept back then, Jordan still lands in the top 10. Not bad for a
> "1-dimensional ballhog", huh, Fudden?
>
--->>28 triple doubles in 11 seasons.......that's about 900+ games.........
WOW! That's truly amazing.........
Mel
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tmin...@cts.com (Tony Minkoff) wrote:
> In article <7bg05r$ufm$1...@nntp3.u.washington.edu>, fba...@u.washington.edu
> (F. Barlas) wrote:
>
> > Yep, behind Magic, Bird, Fat Lever, and Grant Hill, is "jordon", the
> > "foolish, one dimensional ballhog", with 28 triples doubles to his name,
> > which puts him #5 on the all-time list. He will soon be passed by Jason
> > Kidd, and if we assume that Oscar Robertson is the true leader had stats
> > been kept back then, Jordan still lands in the top 10.
>
> would have been right up there with Oscar. Chamberlain had double-digits
> in points and rebounding virtually every game, and had a lot of
> double-digit assists games, too (he actually led the league in assists for
> a season). Had blocks been kept as a statistic as well as "doubles",
> Chamberlain would undoubtedly have a great number of quadruple-doubles to
> his name.
>
> Bill Russell would probably have had a lot of triple-doubles, and an
> occassional quadruple-double, too. I imagine Rick Barry would have had at
> least 28. (Does the ABA count?) Wes Unseld might have had 28...
>
> There are probably several players who would have had 28 but played at a
> time when triple doubles were not counted. I'm pretty sure that Jordan
> would not land in the top ten if we counted unofficial triple-doubles from
> times before triple-doubles were kept as a statistic.
>
> --
> Tony Minkoff
> admi...@uswest.net
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ADeCotte
DQuinn1575
too meaningful?
I know, Lever was underrated, but come on.
Triple Doubles are largely a result of the role you play on your team.
SK...@netscape.net
adec...@aol.com (ADeCotte) wrote:
> jordan will always rule.
>
jordon rules over the refs which is why he has so many undeserved
awards. foolish jordon knew better than to stay in the NBA for another
season, for we would have watched jordon wince in pain as Iverson
took over the scoring lead.
SuperKnicksFan
Go SuperKnicks!!!
Go SuperPatrick Ewing Power!!
David Boll
: In article <19990302215323...@ng110.aol.com>,
: jordon rules over the refs which is why he has so many undeserved
: awards. foolish jordon knew better than to stay in the NBA for another
: season, for we would have watched jordon wince in pain as Iverson
: took over the scoring lead.
Good point, he only eclipsed I-verson's current average in 9 seasons,
and was within 1 point in 2 other seasons. Yeah, he was probably real
concerned about this.
SK...@netscape.net
Yes, foolish jordon eclipsed Iverson's average in 9 seasons, but
Iverson's average now eclipsed jordon's average in 4 seasons.
jordon 1984-85 28.4
1985-86 22.3?
1994-95 26.9
1997-98 28.7
Iverson
as of 3/4/99 28.8
Iverson would have challenged foolish jordon for the scoring title last
season, but was depressed because he wasn't invited to the All-Star game.
They should have let Iverson play, not foolish jordon.
If Iverson raises his scoring average more, then he would eclipse jordon's
average in even more seasons. But Iverson is a team player, if he increases
his average, then he will also increase his assists average, just like he did
during 1996-97.
Iverson.Simply powerful.
SuperKnicksfan
Go Patrick Ewing Power!!
Go SuperRogermarisPower!!!
David Boll
: Yes, foolish jordon eclipsed Iverson's average in 9 seasons, but
: Iverson's average now eclipsed jordon's average in 4 seasons.
: jordon 1984-85 28.4
: 1985-86 22.3?
: 1994-95 26.9
: 1997-98 28.7
Let's just include seasons where the player in question plays at least
1/3 of the games. That excludes 85/6 and 94/5, IIRC.
: Iverson
: as of 3/4/99 28.8
Which is a nice average. We'll see what it is at the end of the season.
: If Iverson raises his scoring average more, then he would eclipse jordon's
: average in even more seasons.
No [GPW], Cap'n Obvious. And, if he hadn't scored as much, he wouldn't eclipse
MJ's average in as many seasons. Any other scintillating words of wisdom?
: But Iverson is a team player,
Stop it, you're killing me.
: if he increases
: his average, then he will also increase his assists average, just like he did
: during 1996-97.
Maybe. Probably not.