best movies about baseball
Cazzinculo
61*
The pride of the NYY
anyothergoodies?
Mpoconnor7
Field of Dreams
Bull Durham
Bang the Drum Slowly
Damn Yankees
Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
"The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct
proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"
James Mason from the movie "Heaven Can Wait".
PRowan9262
>Field of Dreams
>Bull Durham
>Bang the Drum Slowly
>Damn Yankees
Lets add "A League of their Own" starring:
Madonna
Rosie
Doogie
Ima
Critique by Denis with opposable digit pointed decidedly downward, baby!!!!
Reticulum
"Bull Durham"
"The Bad News Bears"
"Sandlot"
"Field of Dreams"
"Bang the Drum Slowly"
"Major League"
"Pride of the Yankees"
Also, not movies but great classics,...
"Mister Ed " (the one where Ed tries out for the LA Dodgers)
"Twilight Zone" (Episode: "The Mighty Casey" )
TZ Trivia: Can anyone name the team ?
Andrew
Reticulum
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Cazzinculo
>I know:
>61*
>The pride of the NYY
ok, thank you all.
The complete list, then is:
1 - 61* (2001) (TV)
2 - Pride of the Yankees, The (1942)
3 - Field of Dreams (1989)
4 - Eight Men Out (1988)
5 - Bull Durham (1988)
6 - Natural, The (1984)
7 - Bang the Drum Slowly (1973)
8 - League of Their Own, A (1992)
9 - Sandlot, The (1993)
10 - Major League (1989)
11 - For Love of the Game (1999)
12 - Bad News Bears, The (1976)
13 - Cobb (1994)
14 - BASEketball (1998)
15 - Little Big League (1994)
16 - Babe, The (1992)
17 - Fan, The (1996)
18 - Angels in the Outfield (1994)
19 - Rookie of the Year (1993)
20 - Mr. Baseball (1992)
21 - Scout, The (1994)
22 - Mister Ed (the one where Ed tries out for the LA Dodgers)
23 - Twilight Zone (Episode: "The Mighty Casey" )
24 - TZ Trivia: Can anyone name the team ?
As a new baseball enthusiast, I search for movies with historical
background about baseball, with true stories about it or that describe
the life in and out a baseball field.
I'm downloading #1, #2.
Any suggestion?
Thanks
Mpoconnor7
The scene where Ed steps up to the plate against Koufax with a bat clenched in
his mouth was one of the funniest things I've ever seen, particularly the
sliding sequence. I don't know if anybody still runs Mr. Ed, maybe one of the
Nick channels, but if you haven't seen this episode, I recommend you look for
it.
Another TV episode which was pretty good was the WKRP episode with the softball
game.
Reticulum
Haven't seen the WKRP episode but will look for it. "Mister ED"
is showing twice daily, 5-6P EST either M-F or 7 days a week.
So it should be around - I'm hoping to catch it.
The answer to the TZ Trivia is: "The Hoboken Zephers."
It was about a guy who develops a robot to play ball but
he feels sorry for the guys striking out as he gets emotions.
Here's the full Rod Serling Voiceover and Closing Voiceover:
"What you're looking at is a ghost, once alive but now deceased.
Once upon a time it was a baseball stadium that housed a major-
league ballclub known as the Hoboken Zephyrs. Now it houses
nothing but memories and a wind that stirs in the high grass of what
was once an outfield, a wind that sometimes bears a faint, ghostly
resemblence to the roar of a crowd that once sat here. We're back
in time now when the Hoboken Zephyrs were still a part of the National
League and this mausoleum of memories was an honest-to-Pete stadium.
But since this is strictly a story of make-believe it has to start this way:
Once upon a time, in Hoboken, New Jersey, it was try-out day. And
though he's not yet on the field, you're about to meet most unusual fella,
a left-handed pitcher named Casey."
And at the End, Serling did this Final:
"Once upon a time there was a major league team called the Hoboken Zephyrs
who, during the last year of their existence, wound up in last place and shortly
thereafter wound up in oblivion. There's a rumor, unsubstantiated of course,
that a manager named McGarry took them to the West Coast and wound up
with several penants and a couple of world's championships. This team had a
pitching staff that made history. Of course, none of them smiled very much,
but it happens to be a fact that they pitched like nothing human. And if you're
interested as to where these gentlemen came from, you can check uder "B"
for baseball -- in the Twilight Zone."
Wow ! Isn't that great ? Serling was a great a what he did. The eipode was shot
at the old Hollywood Baseball Park.
David Emerling
Larry: "Excuse me, but what the hell's going on out here?"
Crash Davis: "Well, Nuke's scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old man's here. We need a live ... is it a live rooster?"
[Jose nods]
Crash Davis: "We need a live rooster to take the curse off Jose's glove and nobody seems to know what to get Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present."
[To the players]
Crash Davis: "Is that about right?"
[The players nod]
Crash Davis: "We're dealing with a lot of shit."
Larry: "Okay, well, uh...candlesticks always make a nice gift, and uh, maybe you could find out where she's registered and maybe a place-setting or maybe a silverware pattern. Okay, let's get two! Go get 'em."
Larry: "Lollygaggers!"
Manager: "Lollygaggers."
Dottie Hinson: "It just got too hard."
Jimmy Dugan: "It's supposed to be hard! If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard ... is what makes it great!"
--
David Emerling - Memphis, TN
demerli...@midsouth.rr.com
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Cazzinculo
>24 - TZ Trivia: Can anyone name the team ?
ehm, I made a mistake :-)
Alan S. Wales
scout for the California Angels that discovers a phenom pitcher. I liked it a
lot. Even the obligatory love story is done well.
Has anyone else seen this?
--
"When you argue with a fool be sure he is not similarly occupied."
See how the Pros get more POWER!
http://www.powrwrap.com/press.htm
Steven Rubio
wrote:
>I know:
Best baseball movie ever: The Naked Gun
Best baseball movie that doesn't star Leslie Nielsen: Long Gone
Steven
Seapig
I'd add Long Gone to the list - the guy who now stars on CSI played a
minor league player-manager in the 1950s. Not quite as good as Bull
Durham, IMO, but well worth a look.
> 22 - Mister Ed (the one where Ed tries out for the LA Dodgers)
> 23 - Twilight Zone (Episode: "The Mighty Casey" )
There was also an episode of "The Munsters" where Herman tried out for
the Dodgers. He was so destructive, Durocher said something like "I
don't know whether to sign him or send him to Vietnam." That was kind
of jarring; I never thought of the Munsters and the Vietnam War as
occupying the same universe.
And you've got to include the Simpsons episode with all the ringers.
> As a new baseball enthusiast, I search for movies with historical
> background about baseball, with true stories about it or that describe
> the life in and out a baseball field.
I've always thought that The Jackie Robinson Story was underrated.
It's a little hokey, but Robinson played himself, which gives it some
credibility. For whatever reason, the scene where he pets the black
cat gets to me every time.
Steve Cutchen
Emerling <demerli...@midsouth.rr.com> wrote:
> "Bull Durham" and "Major League"
> Another one of my favorites ...
>
> [The manager, with his assistant Larry by his side, is yelling at the players
> in the locker room.]
> Manager: "You guys ... you lollygag the ball around the infield. You
> lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You
> know what that makes you? Larry!"
> Larry: "Lollygaggers!"
> Manager: "Lollygaggers."
Crash Davis to Annie Savoy and Nuke Laloosh, _Bull Durham_
Annie Savoy: "Wait a minute where are you goin"?
Crash Davis: "After 12 years in the minor leagues I don't try out,
besides uh, I don't believe in quantum physics when it comes to manners
of the heart."
Annie: "What do you believe in then?"
Crash: "Well I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a
woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the
novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent over rated crap, I believe
that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, I believe there oughta be a
constitutional ammendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated
hitter, I believe in the sweet spot, soft core pornography, opening
your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve, and I
believe in long... slow... deep... soft... wet kisses that last three
days......
Good Night."
Annie: "Oh My!"
Paul G. Wenthold
Man, you left out the best part!
Nuke: "Hey Annie, what's all this 'molecule' stuff?"
paul
Steve Cutchen
<pgwNO...@purdue.NOTTHIS.edu> wrote:
My favorite part was Annie's "Oh My!"
THAT was knee-buckling!
Dvd Avins
news:011120031313110298%scut...@airmail.net...
<snip>
> Crash: "Well I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a
> woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the
> novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent over rated crap, I believe
> that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, I believe there oughta be a
> constitutional ammendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated
> hitter, I believe in the sweet spot, soft core pornography, opening
> your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve, and I
> believe in long... slow... deep... soft... wet kisses that last three
> days......
> Good Night."
>
> Annie: "Oh My!"
Unfortunately, as great as that short soliloquy was, it was *too* good. It
has been parodied and its style copied so many times in so many ways, that
someone seeing the original now just couldn't appreciate the crispness and
power of it.
It's sort of like Mr. T. If the Rocky movie was the only thing he'd ever
appeared in, it would be appreciated as a quirky but ingenious performance.
But after the A-Team, all the commercials and guest appearances, and
occasional knock-offs, it's just mundane.
Mark Wolven
I'd add:
Comrades of Summer - (1992) Not JOe Mantegna's finest work, but not
the worst movie on this list either.
jimn...@starprobe.net
> Crash: [...] I believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone,
I always think of the movie JFK every time I hear that, for some
odd reason...
Jim
--
"It strikes me that cats are like soft-tipped ammo, they're small
when they enter your life, cause all kinds of havoc while they're
in it, and then leave a gaping hole in your heart when they pass
out of it." -- William Jennings
The Only Mosey
remarked:
>Field of Dreams
He said movies about baseball.
John Mosey Complaints can be sent to ab...@mosey.com
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll
tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby
Alan S. Wales
Mpoconnor7
>good.
>
>Who could possibly forget Tom Hanks' famous line, "There's no crying in =
>baseball!"
I never thought I could enjoy a movie that had both Rosie O'Donnell and Madonna
in it, but it was good. My favorite part was when the guy who was overseeing
the league told Tom Hanks that he would have to step out of the dugout and tip
his cap and smile to the fans before the game. Hanks did it, and was very
silently muttering how everybody could kiss his ass. Of all his performances,
this is the one performance that Tom Hanks should have won the Oscar for, in
the Best Supporting Actor category.
Reticulum
>Steve Cutchen <scut...@airmail.net> wrote:
>
>> Crash: [...] I believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone,
>
>I always think of the movie JFK every time I hear that, for some
>odd reason...
>
The reason I don't quote that line - because I feel it is
patently false. It's truthful to Crash's character which
is what counts, but it is far fom the historical truth.
Andrew
>Jim
>--
>"It strikes me that cats are like soft-tipped ammo, they're small
> when they enter your life, cause all kinds of havoc while they're
> in it, and then leave a gaping hole in your heart when they pass
> out of it." -- William Jennings
>
Reticulum
David Emerling
"Reticulum" <cath...@erols.com> wrote in message
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You need to watch the ABC 2-hour special which is going to air Nov 20th on
the JFK assassination. It's going to say the same thing that every
responsibile investigation has ever led to ... that Oswald acted alone and
that all the conspiracy theories, although interesting, have glaring holes
in them.
I studied this in college in 1978-79 and attended all the public sessions of
the HSCA (House Select Committee on Assassinations). The case is absolutely
compelling that Oswald acted alone, although that is not what the Committee
decided ... mostly because they ran out of time and funding.
I know it's not as titialating as "The Russians did it", or "The Right wing
extremists did it", or "Lyndon Johnson had it done", or "The Mafia did it",
or "The anti-Castro Cubans did it", or "The CIA did it", or whatever. But
that is where all the responsible evidence leads.
It's boring to believe that a 24-yr-old disturbed, ex-Marine, took his mail
order rifle to work one day ... stuck it out the window ... pulled the
trigger three times and snuffed out the life of the most powerful man in the
world. But that's what happened. It doesn't make for a great movie or even
a made-for-TV movie. But sometimes reality is not particularly interesting.
The type of people who believe Kennedy was killed as a result of a
conspiracy are the same type of people that say, "If the gloves don't fit,
you must acquit."
Crash was right. :-)
Steve Cutchen
And I thought the damn "why's it called a strike" thread was long..."
In article <sx%ob.29138$oC5....@clmboh1-nws5.columbus.rr.com>, David
NJROB65
Bingo Long Traveling All Stars & Motor Kings
The Rookie
Long Gone (which the previous poster already mentioned)
The Life & Times of Hank Greenberg (Documentary)
AtlMdx31
ballplayer as well as for the Mulder & Scully dialogue about baseball that
frames the episode.
I'm way too tired now to give a synopsis, but someone'll probably follow up. Or
I'll do it myself when I'm more awake.
Mpoconnor7
The Baseball sequence was terrific. My favorite part was the Jumbotron showing
all the various baseball blunders, such as the lion attacking the guy who
slides into second base. The one with the outfielder jumping up at the wall to
take away a home run and the ball took his head clean off was a hoot also. I
always wondered how they did the special effects on that first pitch that the
Queen tossed out to start the game. And who could forget the group of 14
announcers who were broadcasting the game who included Dick Vitale and Dr.
Joyce Brothers.
jimn...@starprobe.net
> OH SHIT!!!!!!!! HEEEEEEEERE WE GO...
> And I thought the damn "why's it called a strike" thread was long..."
Geez, and all I meant was that Kevin Costner played the prosecuter trying
to prove a conspiracy in JFK, as well as playing Crash Davis. Maybe I
should have put the smiley face in.
Jim
charlie juliet november
news:kn16qvk5kprvcluj3...@4ax.com:
> I know:
> 61*
> The pride of the NYY
>
> anyothergoodies?
If you're counting non-fiction, then don't forget HBO's "When it Was a
Game" trio. An excellent trip in the time machine.
HBO has done quite a number of good films about baseball, both fiction and
non-fiction (like the previously mentioned "Long Gone").
--
Mpoconnor7
>Game" trio. An excellent trip in the time machine.
When it was a Game 1, 2 and 3 were outstanding pieces of work, but they were
documentaries, and were somewhat reminescent of the work done by NFL Films.
Paul G. Wenthold
>
> I studied this in college in 1978-79 and attended all the public sessions of
> the HSCA (House Select Committee on Assassinations). The case is absolutely
> compelling that Oswald acted alone, although that is not what the Committee
> decided ... mostly because they ran out of time and funding.
>
And they were mislead by a flawed audio analysis on the dictabelt, the
one that concluded that there were at least 4 shots fired...at least a
minute after the assasination took place.
The last part has only been recognized only in the last decade or so.
Basically, the HSCA said all the evidence points to lone gunman except
for that hard evidence of the dictabelt which we can't ignore. As such,
we must conclude there was another gunman, since LHO fired three.
paul
Don McC
Cooperstown (1993, TV) starring Alan Arkin as Harry "The Wing" Willette,
passed over for the HOF one time too many, travels to Cooperstown to reclaim
his no-hit baseball.
Don
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are much more pliable.
~ Mark Twain
Reticulum
>You need to watch the ABC 2-hour special which is going to air Nov 20th on
>the JFK assassination. I
Why would you expect something truthful from ABC ?
Are we talking about the ones still on the CIA payrolls as
per the Intelligence Comm. Hearings of the 70's ? Or are
these some new ABC employees not on that payroll?
How would you know? Do you really beleive that "telling
the truth" is what Mass-Media does? Have you forgotten
the Atlanta Olympic Bombing ? Wake up, please.
FWIW, my reasons are as follows:
What really *is* a conspiracy ?
In simple terms, where you have two or more in cohoots
you have conspiracy. Now get this; It doesn't matter WHO
the other party(s) are or what their relationship was to LHO
or the FBI or the CIA or the Mafia or any of that. If you can
show that more than one acted you have de facto conspiracy.
Many people get all caught up in this theory or that: They are
wasting their time because Lone-Gunman Advocates will
poke holes in any theory and conviently ignore that, in fact,
conspiracy exists.
Now,...Of all the evidence in the LHO case there is only one
which can be said to catagorically deny conspiracy. Stuff about
LHO pictures in his backyard and the angle of the sun, stuff
about the height of the elms at Dealy Plaza can be used by either
side to support either theory. ONE and ONE ONLY piece of
Warren Commission contruct willl absolutely rule out consipracy.
That is the Single-Bullet-Theory.
Why? Because if Single-Bullet holds true then it was *possible*
the LHO acted alone and Occam's Razor tells us to go with that.
BUT,... If Single-Bullet *fails* then, de facto, you have conspiracy
because LHO could not have fired ALL the shots, therefore there
must be a 2nd Shooter, therefore conspiracy. Means, motivation,
allegiances, opportunity --- all irrelevant to prove conspiracy. The
ENTIRE Warren Commission case for Lone Gunman requires
Single-Bullet to hold up.
Now I'm already way Off-Topic here. So I will leave any further research
into Single-Bullet Theory, it's supporters and detractors up to you. But
I will add that the reason the ABC Special is C-R-A-P is because all the
fancy re-enactments, computer mock-ups, and special-effects are
useless to proving how bullets can, for instance, make multiple wounds
on muiltiple targets, perform right angle turns, deflect from and at times
shatter human bone, and end up a unblemished, virtually pristine bullet
on a strecher in a hosp. ER. for a Secret Service Agent to casually find.
C-R-A-P !
My Apologies to the NG for this O.T. Rant,
Andrew
Bob Roman
>Cooperstown (1993, TV) starring Alan Arkin as Harry "The Wing" Willette,
>passed over for the HOF one time too many, travels to Cooperstown to reclaim
>his no-hit baseball.
Also with Josh Charles, later of "Sports Night."
Ernie Harwell played himself.
When I saw "Godzilla" (yes, yes -- I am ashamed) I spent the whole
movie wondering where I'd seen Maria Pitillo before. By the very end
of the movie I remember it was from this.
Bob Roman
Bob Roman
wrote:
>18 - Angels in the Outfield (1994)
I finally saw this just today. C'mon, it's a stinker!
Bob Roman
Ima Pseudonym
wrote:
>When I saw "Godzilla" (yes, yes -- I am ashamed) I spent the whole
>movie wondering where I'd seen Maria Pitillo before.
She looked great in that. Pity she can't act.
Perry Sailor
> I know:
> 61*
> The pride of the NYY
>
> anyothergoodies?
My two favorites are Bull Durham, which is on everybody's list, and Long
Gone, which is on almost nobody's. It's an HBO film from the late 80s,
based on a Paul Hemphill book, and stars William Petersen, Virginia Madsen,
and Dermot Mulroney, all pretty unknown at the time, in a story set in the
low minors in the 1950s deep south. Really good, engaging little movie.
Others I've enjoyed:
The Sandlot
The Stratton Story
Mr. Baseball
Major League
Eight Men Out
A League of Their Own
It Happens Every Spring
Didn't like The Natural. Field of Dreams depends on my mood. Couldn't even
get through The Scout or Rookie of the Year -- just awful.
Of yours, I quite liked 61*, didn't care for Pride of the Yankees.
Perry
Perry Sailor
"David Emerling" <demerli...@midsouth.rr.com> wrote in message news:kjQob.29109$oC5....@clmboh1-nws5.columbus.rr.com...
[The manager, with his assistant Larry by his side, is yelling at the players in the locker room.]Manager: "You guys ... you lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!"
Larry: "Lollygaggers!"
Manager: "Lollygaggers."
But wait, it goes on:Manager: "What's our record?"Larry: "8 and 16."Manager: "8 and 16.... How'd we win 8?"Larry: "It's a miracle!"Manager: "It's a miracle."The timing and delivery of the interplay between Larry and the manager is just great, makes it way funnier on screen than it appears on the page. That whole movie is a miracle, really.Perry
Douglas T. (Doug) Massey
mpoco...@aol.comnojunk (Mpoconnor7) writes:
>>Yet, again, some of the lines from "A League of Their Own" are pretty =
>>good.
>>
>>Who could possibly forget Tom Hanks' famous line, "There's no crying in =
>>baseball!"
>
> I never thought I could enjoy a movie that had both Rosie O'Donnell and Madonna
> in it, but it was good. My favorite part was when the guy who was overseeing
> the league told Tom Hanks that he would have to step out of the dugout and tip
> his cap and smile to the fans before the game. Hanks did it, and was very
> silently muttering how everybody could kiss his ass. Of all his performances,
> this is the one performance that Tom Hanks should have won the Oscar for, in
> the Best Supporting Actor category.
It's also the highlight of Jon Lovitz's career, IMO, as Ernie the scout.
[Ernie sees Dottie and Kit vigorously milking cows.]
Ernie Capadino: Ow! Doesn't that hurt them?
Dottie Hinson: Doesn't seem to.
Ernie Capadino: Well, it would bruise the hell out of me.
Dottie Hinson: Who are you?
Ernie Capadino: I'm Ernie Capadino. I'm a baseball scout. I saw you
playing today. Not bad, not bad. You ever heard of Walter Harvey, makes
Harvey bars -- you know, the candy?
Dottie Hinson: Yeah. We feed them to the cows when they're constipated.
Ernie Capadino: That's the guy. He's starting a girls' baseball league,
so he can make a buck while the boys are overseas. Wanna play?
Dottie Hinson: Huh?
Ernie Capadino: Nice retort. Tryouts are in Chicago. It's a real league,
professional.
Kit Keller: Professional -- baseball?
Ernie Capadino: Mmm-hmm. They'll pay you 75 dollars a week.
Kit Keller: We only make 30 at the dairy!
Ernie Capadino: Well then, this would be more, wouldn't it?
Doug
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The Only Mosey
and remarked:
>
>You need to watch the ABC 2-hour special which is going to air Nov 20th on
>the JFK assassination. It's going to say the same thing that every
>responsibile investigation has ever led to ... that Oswald acted alone and
>that all the conspiracy theories, although interesting, have glaring holes
>in them.
I think P*** R*** and J** C***** were in the grassy knoll.
>>It's boring to believe that a 24-yr-old disturbed, ex-Marine, took his mail
>order rifle to work one day ... stuck it out the window ... pulled the
>trigger three times and snuffed out the life of the most powerful man in the
>world. But that's what happened. It doesn't make for a great movie or even
>a made-for-TV movie. But sometimes reality is not particularly interesting.
Well, that sounds like team chemistry and clutch ability to me.
M. S. Burton
similar to 'Long Gone' is 1991's 'Pastime' (also known as 'A cup of
coffee') with William Russ as a former pro mentoring a young black player
in the minors in the '50s-- with Bob Feller, Duke Snider, Ernie Banks, Don
Newcombe, Bill Mazeroski and Harmon Killebrew.
also mentioned, A talent for the game (1991) Eddie Olmos (in a Robert M.
Young film) as a devoted scout who finds a hot prospect in Jeff Corbett,
and then has to try to deal with unscrupulous team management. Jamey
Sheridan, Terry Kinney, and special guest star Lenny Randle...
> Angels in the Outfield (1994), Little Big League (1994)
or you could watch the originals:
Angels in the outfield (1951) Paul Douglas, the crusty (and profane) coach
of the hapless Pittsburgh Pirates receives help from above (at the request
of Janet Leigh and little Donna Corcoran). Not that the Buccos EVER need
divine intervention <g> Cameos by Ty Cobb & Joe DiMaggio.
Kid from left field (1953) Ex-ballplayer (Dan Dailey) now sells peanuts &
fumes at the way his former team is being managed. When he gets fired,
his 10-year-old son Chris (Billy Chapin) makes friends with the former
team owner's niece (Ann Bancroft) and her ballplayer boyfriend Pete (Lloyd
Bridges), and not only gets his dad's job back, but a batboy position for
himself. Chris starts passing along his dad's advice to Pete and the other
guys, and soon finds himself managing the team. Former player John
Berardino has a role.
The Kid from Cleveland (1948) Little Rusty Tamblyn, an near-delinquent, is
shown the error of his ways by a kindly sports announcer (George Brent)
and the World Series-bound Cleveland Indians, led by Bill Veeck, Tris
Speaker & shortstop/manager Lou Boudreau, Hank Greenberg, Bob Feller, Gene
Bearden, Satchel Paige, Bob Lemon, Steve Gromek, Joe Gordon, Mickey
Vernon, Ken Keltner, Ray Boone, Dale Mitchell, Larry Doby, Bob Kennedy,
Jim Hegan. Not surprisingly, Bill Veeck is a natural. Nice footage of the
guys.
The Stratton Story (1949) White Sox pitcher Monty Stratton, whose leg was
amputated at age 26 after a hunting accident. Jimmy Stewart is a bit long
in the tooth to play Stratton, but he & June Allyson as his plucky wife
are charming. Jimmy Dykes, Bill Dickey, Spec Shea, Ted Lyons, Luke
Appling, Gene Beardon, Lou Novikoff and George Vico appear.
The Winning team (1952) Dutch Reagan as Grover Cleveland Alexander,
fighting a neurological disorder (hey, no alcohol here, man) with the help
of *his* plucky wife Doris Day. With Bob Lemon, Gene Mauch & Peanuts
Lowrey.
The Big Leaguer (1953) Edward G. Robinson as a former star 3rd-sacker now
in charge of a New York Giants rookie camp, filmed on location in Florida.
Vera-Ellen as his niece, Jeff Richards as the big mining kid who hasn't
told his immigrant dad he wants to play ball, Richard Jaeckel as the cocky
pitcher, William Campbell as the sharp big city outfielder, Lalo Rios as
the latin kid learning English, and Bill Crandall as the not-as-talented
son of a Giant's Hall of Famer. with Al Campanis and Carl Hubbell.
Safe at home (1962) Young Bryan Russell impulsively tells the fellas that
he knows Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris.... and then is challenged to prove
it. Shot in Florida during spring training of '62, just after the big HR
season. With Mickey, Roger, Whitey Ford & Ralph Houk. Amazing how bad the
Mick & Roger are :)
and TV stuff:
Don't Look Back (1981) TV-movie with Lou Gossett as Satchel Paige, based
on his autobiography. Not terribly in-depth or accurate, but a nice
performance by Gossett, with Clifton Davis (improbably as Cool Papa Bell).
Yet another baseball movie appearance by John Berardino.
A Winner Never Quits (1986) TV-movie starring Carradine as Pete Gray, the
one-armed outfielder for the St. Louis Browns during WWII, with Mare
Winningham as his wife. Very well-acted, and if nothing else, it captures
Gray's fielding technique-- catch the ball in his glove, toss the ball
back up in the air long enough to drop the glove, then catch the ball in
his hand and throw it again...
Soul of the Game (1996) TV-movie, Satchel Paige (Delroy Lindo) and Josh
Gibson (Mykelti Williamson) compete to be the one chosen to integrate the
major leagues-- only to have Branch Rickey pick Jackie Robinson (Blair
Underwood). Isiah Washington appears briefly as Willie Mays.
The Court-Martial of Jackie Robinson (1990) TV-movie recreates Robinson's
army days as a lieutenant, and the first impact he had on integration and
civil rights when he was court-martialed for not moving to the back of an
Army bus. Not a lot of baseball, but Braugher is terrific as usual.
and the best from TV, so bad that it's good?
Joe Torre -- Curveballs along the way (1997)
a TV-movie directed by Canadian director Sturla Gunnarsson, shot in
Canada, and filled with many Canadian actors desperately pretending to be
ballplayers. It wants to show us Joe Torre the man and the '96 World
Series run, but is shot down from the start by a lack of budget, a limited
running time and an inept script. What it becomes instead is a
montage-filled race through the season, bouncing between glimpses of
baseball and the story of Joe's brother Frank's failing health. When you
add in some risible casting and the terrible matching of the real footage
with the re-created footage, well....
Behind the opening credits we get a soft-focus look at Young Joey, playing
sand lot ball, idolizing his glamorous big brother Frank and watching him
run out onto the field in the '57 World Series. Cut to adult Joe, driving
back to Brooklyn as he flashes back to being let go by the Mets, by the
Braves, by the Cards -- but here he is, on his way to start his new job
with the Yankees. Right here we have problem number one-- Joe Torre is
played by Paul Sorvino. Big ebulliant pot-bellied Paul Sorvino, not the
stocky self-contained Joe Torre. (For one thing, you can't imagine Sorvino
*ever* catching for a living). Sorvino has mastered the Torre on-the-bench
impassivity though, and for the majority of the movie, no matter the
circumstance, that's how he plays Joe.
Joe comes home to NY with his pregnant wife (Barbara Williams, stuck with
the 'it'll be all right, Joe' role), and tries to do his job while
managing George Steinbrenner (Kenneth Welsh, wonderfully self-obsessed,
with just the lightest touch of megalomania), ignoring the radio talk show
callers who provide much-needed plot exposition ("The Kingdome?! Ever
since the playoffs last year, you know those guys HATE each other!") and
realizing that his brother Frankie is in fact quite ill.
Spring training consists of Joe talking Don Zimmer (Gailard Sartain, too
young, but appropriately Jabba the Hutt-like) out of retirement to be his
bench coach and consulting with Mel Stottlemyre (Barry Flatman) about Doc
Gooden, who George has just signed whether Joe wants him or not. Doc is
played by Isaiah Washington who is under the mistaken impression that he
is in a real movie and so actually acts. He is quite believable, even when
forced to stand on a fake mound and pretend to watch Alex Rodriguez hit
one over his head.
We meet the other Yankees; that nice cheerleading David Cone (Dean
McDermott, who bears a striking resemblance to Tom Glavine), the
square-jawed and pleasantly handsome Paul O'Neill (Andrew Jackson, who
fails to pull off the patented O'Neill whine and can't even punch out a
watercooler convincingly) and that wacky Mariano Duncan (Diego Fuentes)
the clubhouse comedian. There are also brief glimpses of Tino Martinez
(vacuous curly-haired blond) and Derek Jeter (chunky) standing around
behind Wade Boggs. You can tell it is Wade Boggs because in every scene he
holds his Official Wade Boggs Signature Bat. This is important as he is
played by Aidan Devine, a willowy blond with floppy hair and a straggly
mustache who might be better cast as Steve Prefontaine.
Spring training goes badly, Doc can't pitch, the season starts poorly and
gets worse and they move Doc to the bullpen. Coney then goes out with his
aneurysm. Joe asks Doc to start the next night against Seattle; Doc is
torn as his father is having surgery (a plot point which, while accurate,
comes completely out of nowhere) but decides to pitch for his Dad, and
goes out to throw the no-no. There is a fabulous moment in the 9th when
Alex Rodriguez is on third, Edgar Martinez is on 2nd and the faux-Mel
comes out to calm Doc down. They have a chat, and then the Real Mel (much
taller) runs back to the dugout, Edgar has somehow magically turned into
Richie Amaral, and Doc (from a mound in a different park) gets Paul
Sorrento to pop up to Derek. The no-hitter is preserved.
The Yanks move into 1st place and Joe's oldest brother Rocco dies suddenly
and Frank is looking even worse. Steinbrenner decides they need some
hitting and send GM Bob Watson out to get Darryl Strawberry. It gets more
confusing at this point, for when the clubhouse door opens in walks David
Justice. It is actually one Howard Dell playing the role of Darryl, but he
could double for DJ anytime. This makes it rather hard to believe him as
Straw. Cone comes back from surgery and starts to work out. The Yankees
head for the Kingdome (where, by the way, they hate each other, you know.)
If you are a Mariner fan, this is the moment you have been waiting for.
The guys arrive in the clubhouse (pretty nice looking one, too -- that
Kingdome must have been some swanky place) and Paul O'Neill complains that
the Mariners throw at his head every time he comes up to bat. Quick cut to
shot of ball zooming past Pretend Paulie's nose, knocking him on his
keister in the well-known outdoor confines of the Kingdome. Paulie stands
up and whines at the ump (ok, *that* is realistic) as the singularly tall
and well-built catcher (one 'Irwin' according to his M's jersey. No word
on what happened to stocky little John Marzano <g>) stands off to the
side. Paulie, incensed now, shoves the catcher, the catcher pulls off his
mask and swings at O'Neill, they start rassling on the plate and a phoney
baloney brawl breaks out among all the players in the sunny and enormous
homeplate circle. Just like *I* remember it happening.
The Yanks slump, Charlie Hayes is brought in to give Wade some rest, which
is interesting because as far as I can tell, all Wade does is perch on
tables around the clubhouse, clutching his Official Wade Boggs Signature
Bat, label side out. Suddenly, all of NY is pulling for Frank, Coney is
back and they clinch the East. They head down to Texas. They win that
series with just one pitch. Now, the Orioles-- little Jeffrey Maier
snatches the ball in the outfield in NY, and then another one-pitch
ballgame wins it all in Baltimore. whoosh!
The World Series is over almost before it is begun. Atlanta smacks 'em
around (12-0!), George panics, Joe sez we'll lose 2, take 3 in Atlanta and
win it all back home. George calms down. Suddenly they're on their way
back to NY, up 3-2 and Frank has to have his heart transplant. It goes
well, and they play game 6, which consists solely of Wetteland throwing
the last two pitches which both pop up to Charlie Hayes, intercut with
much hand-wringing on the bench. Yankees Win! Yankees Win! Badly inserted
shots of the actors pretending to be deliriously happy next to shots of
the real Yankees looking genuinely ecstatic, which oddly enough, doesn't
work-- they should have just gone for the real celebration. Frank smiles
from his hospital bed at the tv, Faux-Cone leaps onto the backs of
anonymous guys in pinstripes, Joe twinkles up at his wife in the stands.
The end.
Dan Szymborski
You're missing one thing - there being a second shooter doesn't
necessarily require a conspiracy. For instance, there's the George
Hickey Tripped theory.
--
Dan Szymborski
d...@baseballprimerREMOVE.com
"A critic who refuses to attack what is bad is not a whole-hearted
supporter of what is good."
-Robert Schumann
Cazzinculo
<subu...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
(megasnip)
wow, thanks Burton.
And thank you all!
Now I have the rest of my life to watch baseball movies :-)
Steve Cutchen
<perry....@ReMoVeThIscolorado.edu> wrote:
And the ESPN _Baseball Tonight_ version was a hoot!
Mischa Gelman
Mpoconnor7 wrote:
> Another TV episode which was pretty good was the WKRP episode with the softball
> game.
The best sports TV episode I ever saw was the Simpsons softball team with
Strawberry, Canseco and company. I just love how Cap Anson was on Burns' original
team. "I'm afraid all your players have retired and uh, passed on. In fact, you're
right fielder's been dead for 130 years."
Here's a frightening thought - the only baseball episode I remember from my
childhood was from "Who's the Boss?"
--
Man has abused his trusteeship in G-d's world. He has employed his scientific
knowledge to exploit nature rather than to use it wisely in accordance with G-d's
Will. - G.D. Yarnold
Tom MacIntyre
wrote:
>>22 - Mister Ed (the one where Ed tries out for the LA Dodgers)
>
>The scene where Ed steps up to the plate against Koufax with a bat clenched in
>his mouth was one of the funniest things I've ever seen, particularly the
>sliding sequence. I don't know if anybody still runs Mr. Ed, maybe one of the
>Nick channels, but if you haven't seen this episode, I recommend you look for
>it.
>
>Another TV episode which was pretty good was the WKRP episode with the softball
>game.
Excellent...the fact that they had Les make a defensive impossible
play rather than an offensive impossible play showed a great depth of
understanding of the game. My son was only interested in being a great
hitter at first this year, but when he made 3 great defensive plays in
one game in CF this summer, he got the idea. :-)
Tom
JimmyG
> Gone, which is on almost nobody's. It's an HBO film from the late 80s,
> based on a Paul Hemphill book, and stars William Petersen, Virginia Madsen,
> and Dermot Mulroney, all pretty unknown at the time, in a story set in the
> low minors in the 1950s deep south. Really good, engaging little movie.
>
> Others I've enjoyed:
> The Sandlot
> The Stratton Story
> Mr. Baseball
> Major League
> Eight Men Out
> A League of Their Own
> It Happens Every Spring
>
> Didn't like The Natural. Field of Dreams depends on my mood. Couldn't even
> get through The Scout or Rookie of the Year -- just awful.
>
> Of yours, I quite liked 61*, didn't care for Pride of the Yankees.
>
> Perry
Not that this is going to add anything but affirmation, but...
I liked 61* a lot. I thought it was the right director, the right
actors and the right story. A little tear-jerky, but otherwise
terrific. As a side note, my "likes baseball OK" wife loved this
film, too.
One of my favorite movies (not baseball movies, just movies) ever is
"The Natural." Redford looks like a ballplayer, rather than an actor.
One of the strongest elements of this film is the cinematography.
The images of the baseball figurines illuminiated by the lightening,
Redford throwing the third pitch to the Whammer, The cover coming off
the ball in the rain, Glenn Close dancing around the topic of her
son's father, and of course, the shower of sparks at the end... They
all just evoke a deep inner reaction. Maybe it's just the score...
Yet another favorite is "A League of Their Own." when I saw it for
the first time, the gal I went with and I talked for an hour afterward
about whether or not she dropped the ball intentionally. Of course,
other posters have mentioned Tom Hanks' memorable, "It's the hard that
makes it great." speech and Lovitz' introduction, both great
moments... It's just a great film.
"Bingo Long" was mentioned earlier. That's a terrifc book. and a
good film.
I'm encouraged that Perry mentioned "It Happens Every Spring." I
liked the book... I liked the film even more. Side note: In "For The
Love of The Game," when John C. Rielly tells Costner that
(paraphrased) "he's making them better and even if he (Costner) is out
of gas, they're all there for him," it's an echo of the comment the
Card's manager makes to Dan Daily at the end of "Every Spring." I
like the original better.
Speaking of "For Love of The Game," I saw it when it opened and liked
it even if nobody else in the world did. Plus, great soudtrack. Oh
yeah, and the incomparable Mr. Scully.
Bull Durham, of course... great film, not in my top 50. and to the
poster who responded to "what DOES Crash Davis believe in?" with a
reference to JFK (the film), I always think the exact same thing...
Costner got to play characters that spoke to both sides of the
question. Plus, he played JFK's lackey in the Cuban crisis movie.
Major League, lot's of fun. Eight Men Out I think benefits from
compelling writing and GREAT acting from Cusack. It's not really as
good as we'd like it to be. Plus this NG has hashed and rehashed the
question of Comisky's culpability at length (even in the few years
I've been around).
It's hard to not include Pride of The Yankees. "The Babe," on the
other hand was roundly dismissed... I saw it when it opened. and
liked it. Let's don't forget the "Reagan as Alexander" film.
Maudlin, but valid. In retrospect, maybe I don't like the film; I
like Alexander, and the film benefits. Or maybe I do like the film.
Last one... "Field of Dreams." I'll pass. Didn't like the book
(cheesey ending)... didn't like the film, didn't like anything about
it... except for the young player's monologue about "giving the
pitcher a little wink."
I'll be lookng for "Long Gone." Thanks.
JimmyG
How about them A's?
Paul G. Wenthold
> Yet another favorite is "A League of Their Own." when I saw it for
> the first time, the gal I went with and I talked for an hour afterward
> about whether or not she dropped the ball intentionally.
I have always tried to figure out why the ball was in her right hand in
the first place. She had the ball in her mitt, and had closed up the
mitt with her right hand, so, if anything, the ball should have come out
of her mitt. There is no way she she have the ball in her hand. Either
it is intentional, or it is there for dramatic effect. I'm leaning
toward the dramatic effect part. Dottie was too much of a competitor to
lose on purpose, even to her sister.
paul
Matt Deres
"JimmyG" <kidfl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Last one... "Field of Dreams." I'll pass. Didn't like the book
> (cheesey ending)... didn't like the film, didn't like anything about
> it... except for the young player's monologue about "giving the
> pitcher a little wink."
"Hey, ump, how about a warning?"
"Sure kid, try not to get yerself killed."
Matt
Reticulum
> of the hapless Pittsburgh Pirates receives help from above (at the request
> of Janet Leigh and little Donna Corcoran). Not that the Buccos EVER need
> divine intervention <g> Cameos by Ty Cobb & Joe DiMaggio.
Cobb in a movie ? Any details of where in the movie?
Any other Cobb films out there ( besides "Cobb" )?
Andrew
>
><snipped>
JimmyG
> the first place. She had the ball in her mitt, and had closed up the
> mitt with her right hand, so, if anything, the ball should have come out
> of her mitt. There is no way she she have the ball in her hand. Either
> it is intentional, or it is there for dramatic effect. I'm leaning
> toward the dramatic effect part. Dottie was too much of a competitor to
> lose on purpose, even to her sister.
>
I agree that she was a fierce competitor (hell, she was the defacto
manager for awhile, until Hanks dried out).
BUT... What about the scene after the game when she is at the
concession stand and she sees Kit with a bunch of admiring girls,
giving advice about getting dirty... and she smiles that secret smile.
There's no question that dropping the ball was merely a dramatic
effect, but Penny Marshall and Geena Davis play the "what if" element
so well that you are left thinking about it (even talking about it)
well after the film ends. If I met Geena Davis (if!), that's one of
the topics I would bring up.
Just a really well-made film.
Good chattng with you.
JimmyG
Seapig
> Kid from left field (1953) Ex-ballplayer (Dan Dailey) now sells peanuts &
> fumes at the way his former team is being managed. When he gets fired,
> his 10-year-old son Chris (Billy Chapin) makes friends with the former
> team owner's niece (Ann Bancroft) and her ballplayer boyfriend Pete (Lloyd
> Bridges), and not only gets his dad's job back, but a batboy position for
> himself. Chris starts passing along his dad's advice to Pete and the other
> guys, and soon finds himself managing the team. Former player John
> Berardino has a role.
This was remade in a 1979 made-for-TV movie, with Robert Guillaume as
the ballplayer-turned-vendor. Gary Coleman played the batboy who
became manager of the San Diego Padres.
IIRC, the day after it originally aired, the real-life Padres named
JERRY Coleman as their new manager. The choice seemed less absurd
than it might have a few days earlier.
M. S. Burton
> > divine intervention <g> Cameos by Ty Cobb & Joe DiMaggio.
>
> Cobb in a movie ? Any details of where in the movie?
can't give you a specific time, but several folks (songwriter/baseball
fanatic Harry Ruby,
Pirate team owner Bing Crosby, DiMaggio) show up briefly later in the film
to comment
on the rumors of heavenly intervention....
> Any other Cobb films out there ( besides "Cobb" )?
he plays himself in Somewhere in Georgia (1916- based on a Grantland Rice
story)
but I doubt it is available anywhere...
Paul G. Wenthold
>>I have always tried to figure out why the ball was in her right hand in
>>the first place. She had the ball in her mitt, and had closed up the
>>mitt with her right hand, so, if anything, the ball should have come out
>>of her mitt. There is no way she she have the ball in her hand. Either
>>it is intentional, or it is there for dramatic effect. I'm leaning
>>toward the dramatic effect part. Dottie was too much of a competitor to
>> lose on purpose, even to her sister.
>>
>
>
> I agree that she was a fierce competitor (hell, she was the defacto
> manager for awhile, until Hanks dried out).
>
> BUT... What about the scene after the game when she is at the
> concession stand and she sees Kit with a bunch of admiring girls,
> giving advice about getting dirty... and she smiles that secret smile.
>
Actually, as you say this it convinces me more than anything else that
she didn't drop it on purpose. Her smile is more one of pride, as Kit
finally got the better of her after all those years of being in her shadow.
Had she dropped the ball on purpose, she would have known that Kit still
only got where she was because Dottie let her. And that is completely
opposite of the entire lesson at the end. When Kit says "You got me
into the league" and Dottie corrects her: "You got yourself into the
league. I got you on the bus." With the whole point being that Kit is
not rally riding Dottie's coattails. If Dottie had dropped the ball on
purpose, it would completely opposite of that, with, once again Dottie
being the big selfless hero protecting her little sister.
In terms of competitiveness, the speech that Hanks gave before she left
on her honeymoon is not talking generalities, it is talking about her:
"Baseball is what gets inside you, it lights you up. You can't deny
that." She didn't turn around at Yellowstone to help Kit - she came
back to play. She couldn't quit it that easily.
If she really wanted to help Kit, why didn't she just strike out with
runners at second and third in the top of ninth with two outs, Kit
pitching, and the Peaches down by 1? Boy, for someone working to make
her sister look good, she did her best to show her up. She told the
pitcher to throw high fastballs, because Kit "can't hit 'em, can't lay
off them." Heck, even given normal pitching, the likelyhood that Kit
hits a HR is small, but Dottie uses her special insight into Kit's
hitting to their advantage? Even at the end, it's clear that Dottie was
not giving her any special treatment (as she hadn't in the earlier scene
when Jimmy took Kit out of the game).
The result of the end was clearly meant to reflect Kit's determination.
She knocked the ball out of Dottie's hand. Heck, she tried to score
despite the fact that the ball arrived at third at the same time,
running through the stop sign. This was her chance to succeed and be
the big hero (recall the beginning of the movie when she said "If I had
just swung at that one, I'd be the hero"). You're suggesting that
Marshall would cheapen that by having Dottie let her score? That's rough...
paul
Alan S. Wales
Piersall starring Anthony Perkins and Karl Malden as his dad.
I remember seeing this one as a kid and Malden's portrayal kind of frightened
me as did Perkin's portrayal of Piersall's breakdown.
Now that I'm a father of a couple of boys that are into baseball, I've got to
look out so I don't start becoming like the Malden character....
--
"When you argue with a fool be sure he is not similarly occupied."
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"M. S. Burton" <its...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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IMDB says it is not on VHS or DVD. Here's a link to the Ty Cobb page:
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0167821/
Matt
Perry Sailor
> > Gone, which is on almost nobody's. It's an HBO film from the late 80s,
> > based on a Paul Hemphill book, and stars William Petersen, Virginia
Madsen,
> > and Dermot Mulroney, all pretty unknown at the time, in a story set in
the
> > low minors in the 1950s deep south. Really good, engaging little movie.
> >
> > Others I've enjoyed:
> > The Sandlot
> > The Stratton Story
> > Mr. Baseball
> > Major League
> > Eight Men Out
> > A League of Their Own
> > It Happens Every Spring
> >
(snip thoughtful response/additions from Jimmy G)
>
> I'll be lookng for "Long Gone." Thanks.
>
Since someone responded to this, I'll take the opportunity to add one more
that I simply forgot to list, probably because it's so recent: The Rookie,
with Dennis Quaid. VERY nicely done.
Perry
Tom MacIntyre
artyw
> Cazzinculo <la...@vontrier.com> wrote in
> news:kn16qvk5kprvcluj3...@4ax.com:
>
> > I know:
> > 61*
> > The pride of the NYY
> >
> > anyothergoodies?
>
> Game" trio. An excellent trip in the time machine.
>
Other worthy Non-fiction include The Hank Greenberg Documentary (can't
recall the name) and "Kings of the Hill (I think that was the name) a
documentary about Negro League Baseball in Pittsburgh.
M. Zaiem Beg
->I enjoyed the X-Files episode "The Unnatural" for the story of the mysterious
->ballplayer as well as for the Mulder & Scully dialogue about baseball that
->frames the episode.
First time I saw this episode, there was a game on some other channel at
the same time featuring the A's, and guess who was pitching for Oakland?
That's right. Mulder.
(The Truth is Out There.)
--
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Steve Grant
news:Pine.GSO.4.33.0311051938510.19662-100000@shell1...
> On 2 Nov 2003, AtlMdx31 wrote:
>
> ->I enjoyed the X-Files episode "The Unnatural" for the story of the
mysterious
> ->ballplayer as well as for the Mulder & Scully dialogue about baseball
that
> ->frames the episode.
>
> First time I saw this episode, there was a game on some other channel at
> the same time featuring the A's, and guess who was pitching for Oakland?
>
> That's right. Mulder.
>
> (The Truth is Out There.)
Who was announcing the Dodger game?
M. Zaiem Beg
->"M. Zaiem Beg" <zb...@iglou.com> wrote in message
->news:Pine.GSO.4.33.0311051938510.19662-100000@shell1...
->> On 2 Nov 2003, AtlMdx31 wrote:
->>
->> ->I enjoyed the X-Files episode "The Unnatural" for the story of the
->mysterious
->> ->ballplayer as well as for the Mulder & Scully dialogue about baseball
->that
->> ->frames the episode.
->>
->> First time I saw this episode, there was a game on some other channel at
->> the same time featuring the A's, and guess who was pitching for Oakland?
->>
->> That's right. Mulder.
->>
->> (The Truth is Out There.)
->
->Who was announcing the Dodger game?
Dear god! I hadn't even considered that.
Proof...*proof* of a conspiracy!
Roger Moore
>First time I saw this episode, there was a game on some other channel at
>the same time featuring the A's, and guess who was pitching for Oakland?
>That's right. Mulder.
Too bad it wasn't an interleague game against the Dodgers, since then you
could have heard Scully announcing. (And yes, I do realize that there is
a genuine connection there.)
--
Roger Moore | Master of Meaningless Trivia | (r...@alumni.caltech.edu)
I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the
people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by
violent and sudden usurpations. -- James Madison
Bob Roman
> I'm encouraged that Perry mentioned "It Happens Every Spring." I
> liked the book... I liked the film even more.
I don't want to sound like a prissy moralist.
I understand it's just a comedy.
But...
HE'S CHEATING!
Bob Roman
m...@me.com
I didn't see any of the "Bad News Bears" films listed. Or
"Here Come the Tigers". "Brewster's Millions" wasn't about
baseball, but it had some in it. Also, Don Drysdale was on
the Brady Bunch episode "The Dropout".
Seapig
here:
Has anybody been watching the new series "Karen Sisco?" It takes
place in a mythical Miami, where everybody cares deeply about the
Florida Marlins. These episodes had to have been filmed before the
World Series, so they aren't just jumping on the bandwagon. I give
them full marks for including a Josh Beckett reference, before he
became America's Sweetheart.
In last night's episode, Karen was dating a fictional Marlins pitcher.
Her dad and his friends were trying to convince her to dump him,
because he'd pitched badly ever since they hooked up.
It's a pretty good show BTW. The ratings aren't real good, so catch
it while you can.
Craig Richardson
>Since this thread has also included television, I'll throw this in
>here:
>
>Has anybody been watching the new series "Karen Sisco?" It takes
>place in a mythical Miami, where everybody cares deeply about the
>Florida Marlins. These episodes had to have been filmed before the
>World Series, so they aren't just jumping on the bandwagon. I give
>them full marks for including a Josh Beckett reference, before he
>became America's Sweetheart.
They also filmed versions set in fictionalized New York, Chicago, and
Boston. Hardest working cast in the business, until the World Series
finally let them know which setting they could keep...
--Craig
--
I start to wish Bob Melvin would walk out to the mound, ask Freddy if he
was injured, and then kick him in the balls so he can call in an
emergency replacement from the bullpen --Derek Zumsteg in BP, 5/13/2003
JimmyG
Well, you're right... He IS cheating... but in the end he has to rely
on the help from his team and just "gut it out." Plus, as a
card-carrying non-jock, I prefer to think of it as him using science
to "win" at a game.
JimmyG