Jewish Baseball Players?
VB30
we were (for some reason) trying to come up with names of Jewish
baseball players, past and present. We weren't able to come up
with much, except for Sandy Koufax, (somebody) Stankowitz, and
maybe John Lowenstein. Can anyone come up with any more. I know
it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this, but
humor us. Thanks for your help.
Thanks.
Bobby
Pablo A Iglesias
Hank Greenberg would have to be the most famous, because his Jewish
faith actually affected his play. (missing late season or was it world
series games because of Yom Kippur)
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Ted Frank
>In article <15APR93.14...@lafibm.lafayette.edu> VB...@lafibm.lafayette.edu (VB30) writes:
>>Just wondering. A friend and I were talking the other day, and
>>we were (for some reason) trying to come up with names of Jewish
>>baseball players, past and present. We weren't able to come up
>>with much, except for Sandy Koufax, (somebody) Stankowitz, and
>>maybe John Lowenstein. Can anyone come up with any more. I know
>>it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this, but
>>humor us. Thanks for your help.
>
>faith actually affected his play. (missing late season or was it world
>series games because of Yom Kippur)
The other Jewish HOF'er is Rod Carew (who converted).
Lowenstein is Jewish, as well as Montana's only representative to the
major leagues.
Undeserving Cy Young award winner Steve Stone is Jewish. Between Stone,
Koufax, Ken Holtzman (? might have the wrong pitcher, I'm thinking of the
one who threw a no-hitter in both the AL and NL), and Big Ed Reulbach,
that's quite a starting rotation. Moe Berg can catch. Harry Steinfeldt,
the 3b in the Tinkers-Evers-Chance infield.
Is Stanky Jewish? Or is that just a "Dave Cohen" kinda misinterpretation?
Whatever, doesn't look like he stuck around the majors too long.
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Alan Sepinwall
>we were (for some reason) trying to come up with names of Jewish
>baseball players, past and present. We weren't able to come up
>with much, except for Sandy Koufax, (somebody) Stankowitz, and
It's Stankiewicz, not Stankowitz, and he's not Jewish - he's Polish
(by the way, the correct pronunciation - according to Stanky himself,
is "ston-KEV-itch". all the sportscasters get it wrong)
>maybe John Lowenstein. Can anyone come up with any more. I know
>it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this, but
>humor us. Thanks for your help.
The only other Jewish ballplayer I can think of is Ron Blomberg, who is
best known as being the first DH to appear in a major league ballgame.
-Alan
Bruce Kleinman
Hank Greenberg, Sid Gordon, Ron Blomberg.
Guess it goes from the sublime to the ridiculous.
Bobby Davis
lot of heckling from bigots on the opposing teams and in the stands, but
it never seemed to affect his performance negatively.
Bob Davis r...@thor.ece.uc.edu
JOSHUA LAWRENCE ROFFMAN
: >with much, except for Sandy Koufax, (somebody) Stankowitz, and
: >maybe John Lowenstein. Can anyone come up with any more. I know
: >it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this, but
: >humor us. Thanks for your help.
John Lowenstein is definately NOT Jewish. Many in Baltimore thought he was...
especially after he told the Baltimore _Jewish Times_ so...but later he
admitted that it was a joke.
sbp...@acad.drake.edu
Sam
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Greg Spira
system, to the list.
Greg
Mark Singer
>
>It's Stankiewicz, not Stankowitz, and he's not Jewish - he's Polish
>(by the way, the correct pronunciation - according to Stanky himself,
>is "ston-KEV-itch". all the sportscasters get it wrong)
>
Polish and Jewish are *not* mutually exclusive.
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Mark Singer
m...@netcom.com
The Liberalizer
writes:
I remember reading somewhere that 7% of the league was jewish during the
50's. Now, there is practically NOBODY
The Liberalizer
Kofax missed world series game because of The jewish day of repentence.
The Liberalizer
Stanky is NOT Jewish, at least, I doubt it. A lot of jewish people don't
have Jewish names.
Mark Singer
The media is beating the incident at Dodger Stadium on Wednesday to
death, but I haven't seen anything in rsb yet.
Gerald Perry of the Cardinals pinch hit in the eighth inning with two
on and his club down by a run. He stroked a line drive into the
right field corner. The ball cleared the three-foot high fence and
went into the crowd. Darryl, racing over from right center, got to
the spot in time to reach his glove up over the short fence, but he
missed the ball. A fan sitting in the front row, wearing a mitt,
reached up and caught the ball. Home run.
Now I've seen the replay several times and I have concluded that
Darryl missed the ball, and that the fan's glove was essentially
behind Darryl's. Several Dodger fans with seats in the immediate
vicinity have claimed that the fan unquestionably interfered with
Strawberry. What cannot be disputed, however, is that the fan
who caught the ball never took his eye off it; he was oblivious
to where the fielder was playing. He was also quite exuberant as
soon as he realized he had made the catch.
That exuberance disappeared immediately, however, when Strawberry
went into a tirade at the man. All reports indicate he used a lot
of profanity and accused the man of interference, and therefore of
costing the Dodgers a game. Shortly afterwards other fans hurled
food and beverages toward the man who made the catch. Dodger Stadium
officials started to remove him from the park, but then relented and
just relocated him to another area. In an interview after the game,
Lasorda blamed the fan for the loss. Strawberry also went into a
tirade about how the fans are stupid and they don't care about
winning. L.A. Times columnists similarly blasted the man who made
the catch.
Before each Dodger game the public address announcer makes a speech
wherein he says that fans are welcome to the souvenirs of balls that
are hit into the stands as long as they do not interfere with any
that are in the field of play. Was the fan wrong? Should he have
been more aware of the situation and acted to avoid any possibility
of interference? Or was he human and just reacting? By the way, he
is a season ticket holder and on his request the Dodgers have relocated
his seats to another area of the Stadium where future interference is
impossible.
Others have questioned why Darryl should be so concerned with what
the fan did when he has a grand total of 1 rbi through the first
nine games.
I question what he was doing in right center with a left-handed pull
hitter up and the game on the line. Had he been closer to the play,
he certainly would have had a much better chance of catching the ball.
But I guess the big debate continues as to what are the responsibilities
of the fan.
-- The Beastmaster
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Mark Singer
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P.A. Binkley
Fields", what used to be the "Minnesota Review of Baseball". As I recall,
it had an amazing amount of research, with a long list of players and a
large bibliography.
Peter Binkley
bin...@let.rug.nl
Ari Epstein
the list.
Ari
Barry Mednick
>we were (for some reason) trying to come up with names of Jewish
Lowenstein is NOT Jewish. However, there is a long list including
Hank Greenberg, Moe Berg, Rod Carew (a convert), the Sherry brothers,
Art Shamsky, and Ron Blomberg.
Barry
David Fry
Once, on Jeopardy, the category was "Jewish Sports Heros," believe it
or not. The answer was, "This pitcher had four no-hitters with the
Dodgers in the 60s." The contestant said, "Who is Hank Aaron?" Alex
Trebek said something like, "I don't think Hank Aaron was a pitcher."
David Fry f...@math.harvard.edu
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Cambridge, MA 02138
Marty Olevitch
Steve A. Conroy x6172
|>
|>
|> The media is beating the incident at Dodger Stadium on Wednesday to
|> death, but I haven't seen anything in rsb yet.
|>
|> Gerald Perry of the Cardinals pinch hit in the eighth inning with two
|> on and his club down by a run. He stroked a line drive into the
|> right field corner. The ball cleared the three-foot high fence and
|> went into the crowd. Darryl, racing over from right center, got to
|> the spot in time to reach his glove up over the short fence, but he
|> missed the ball. A fan sitting in the front row, wearing a mitt,
|> reached up and caught the ball. Home run.
|>
|> Now I've seen the replay several times and I have concluded that
|> Darryl missed the ball, and that the fan's glove was essentially
|> behind Darryl's. Several Dodger fans with seats in the immediate
|> vicinity have claimed that the fan unquestionably interfered with
|> Strawberry. What cannot be disputed, however, is that the fan
|> who caught the ball never took his eye off it; he was oblivious
|> to where the fielder was playing. He was also quite exuberant as
|> soon as he realized he had made the catch.
|>
I saw the replay several times too. No question about it. Daryl missed
the ball, *then* the fan caught it. Daryl is so tall that he had the
first shot at the ball. Daryl's just whining again. I think it shows a
lack of class when Tommy, Daryl and the Dodgers blame a single fan for
losing the game. What about the pitcher who threw up the gopher ball?
What about the pitchers that gave up 6 runs up to that point? Sorry, Tommy.
If it were a 2-1 game and Daryl was 5 feet 2 inches tall, then maybe -
just maybe - you'd have an argument.
Alan Sepinwall
>
>
>Polish and Jewish are *not* mutually exclusive.
I didn't mean to offend or anything, I'm just quoting Stanky himself on
the subject. I remember one time last year he was being interviewed by
ESPN, and the interviewer (can't remember who), asked Stanky if he was
Jewish because he (the interviewer) was Jewish and wanted to see more
Jewish ballplayers. To which Stanky replied, "I'm Polish, not Jewish."
So maybe that wasn't the most PC thing for Stanky to say, and maybe I was
a little naive when I posted it. I think we should just devote this
subject to finding actual Jewish ballplayers (I myself am Jewish and the
only ones I ever knew until now were Koufax, Greenberg, and Blomberg).
-Alan
Mark Bernstein
back up to Don Buford. Good glove, no hit, some spunk.
(Which reminds me: do they still serve Kosher hot dogs at the new Comiskey?)
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Mark Bernstein
only Jewish sportscaster that comes to mind is Steve Williams (?), who had
a Phillies show on KYW in Philadelphia in the 80s.
ma_i...@blurt.oswego.edu
Also, Mordaci Brown back in the early 20th century. He was a pitcher whose
nickname was "3 fingers" Brown....for obvious reasons....he had 3 fingers.
Roger Lustig
>In article <1qkkod...@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> pa...@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Pablo A Iglesias) writes:
>>In article <15APR93.14...@lafibm.lafayette.edu> VB...@lafibm.lafayette.edu (VB30) writes:
>>>Just wondering. A friend and I were talking the other day, and
>>>we were (for some reason) trying to come up with names of Jewish
>>>baseball players, past and present. We weren't able to come up
>>>with much, except for Sandy Koufax, (somebody) Stankowitz, and
>>>maybe John Lowenstein. Can anyone come up with any more. I know
>>>it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this, but
>>>humor us. Thanks for your help.
>>Hank Greenberg would have to be the most famous, because his Jewish
>>faith actually affected his play. (missing late season or was it world
>>series games because of Yom Kippur)
>The other Jewish HOF'er is Rod Carew (who converted).
Did he ever really convert? He married a Jewish woman, but I've never
heard him say he converted. Elliot Maddox, on the other hand...
>Lowenstein is Jewish, as well as Montana's only representative to the
>major leagues.
>Undeserving Cy Young award winner Steve Stone is Jewish. Between Stone,
>Koufax, Ken Holtzman (? might have the wrong pitcher, I'm thinking of the
>one who threw a no-hitter in both the AL and NL), and Big Ed Reulbach,
>that's quite a starting rotation. Moe Berg can catch. Harry Steinfeldt,
>the 3b in the Tinkers-Evers-Chance infield.
Yep, Holtzman. Saul Rogovin won an ERA title in 1949 or so before blowing out
the arm.
>Is Stanky Jewish? Or is that just a "Dave Cohen" kinda misinterpretation?
>Whatever, doesn't look like he stuck around the majors too long.
I'd be surprised. btw, they may just be shopping Gallego around to
make room for AS.
Roger
Roger Lustig
Stankiewicz? I doubt it.
Koufax was one of two Jewish HOFs: the other is Hank Greenberg.
Other good players: Buddy Myer, Johnny Kling, Norm and Larry Sherry,
Ken Holtzman, Saul Rogovin, Ed Reulbach.
There have been over 150 Jewish major leaguers. A few years ago there
was an article about someone who keeps track of this in Spy magazine;
the article was entitled "Jews on First," of course.
There have also been at least two books on the subject.
Roger
Daniel Zappala
Mark Singer brings up the Strawberry Incident, where he lost a homerun
and the fan caught it.
|> Before each Dodger game the public address announcer makes a speech
|> wherein he says that fans are welcome to the souvenirs of balls that
|> are hit into the stands as long as they do not interfere with any
|> that are in the field of play. Was the fan wrong? Should he have
|> been more aware of the situation and acted to avoid any possibility
|> of interference?
Yes, I think he should have done more to get out of the way. As much
as fans want to catch a ball, they really should be aware that winning
the game is more important. As a Dodger fan, he has to be aware that
this is the home stadium, and that entails helping the home team win
in any way possible. As soon as the ball was hit that far, his first
instinct should be to root for Darryl to catch it, not to try to catch
it himself, particularly when he is sitting that close.
I enjoy the attitude of the Wrigley fans, where they are against
visiting team home runs so much, they actually throw them back on the
field.
Now, this has nothing to do with whether Darryl could have caught it or
not. Sure, he probably screwed up, but the fan should realize his
first responsibility is to get out of the way and help the team win.
Daniel
dan...@caldera.usc.edu
Neal Traven
: I believe that Rusty Staub was also a jewish ball-player
: Also, Mordaci Brown back in the early 20th century. He was a pitcher whose
: nickname was "3 fingers" Brown....for obvious reasons....he had 3 fingers.
0 for 2, ma_ind25.
Daniel Patrick Staub is a Catholic school kid from Nawlins, Mordecai
Brown a farm kid (probably Protestant) from somewhere in the Midwest.
He lost those fingers in a farm machinery accident.
Jim Palmer isn't Jewish himself, but Mr. Jockey Shorts's adoptive
parents are.
Also, I'm not absolutely certain that Carew actually converted. His
wife and children certainly are Jewish.
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Scott Barman
>Just wondering. A friend and I were talking the other day, and
>we were (for some reason) trying to come up with names of Jewish
>baseball players, past and present. We weren't able to come up
>with much, except for Sandy Koufax, (somebody) Stankowitz, and
>maybe John Lowenstein. Can anyone come up with any more. I know
>it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this, but
>humor us. Thanks for your help.
Wasn't Ron Bloomberg, the former Yankee who got the first base hit
by a Designated Hitter, Jewish??
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Scott Barman
>Just wondering. A friend and I were talking the other day, and
>we were (for some reason) trying to come up with names of Jewish
>baseball players, past and present. We weren't able to come up
>with much, except for Sandy Koufax, (somebody) Stankowitz, and
>maybe John Lowenstein. Can anyone come up with any more. I know
>it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this, but
>humor us. Thanks for your help.
>
Oh... I forgot... Art Shamsky, former Red and Mets player. Batted .301
between injuries in 1969 (fell short of qualifying for Top 10 because of
injuries and platoon with Ron Swoboda; no Swobo wasn't Jewish).
Gidi Avrahami
was mentioned once while he was still at Oakland.
Also, I have my suspicions about Esther Canseco (nee Haddad).
--Gidi
David Steinman
>For that matter, how many Gentleman of The Press Box have been Jewish? The
>only Jewish sportscaster that comes to mind is Steve Williams (?), who had
>a Phillies show on KYW in Philadelphia in the 80s.
I believe Fergie Olver (Toronto's CFTO) is Jewish.
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sbp...@acad.drake.edu
> For that matter, how many Gentleman of The Press Box have been Jewish? The
> only Jewish sportscaster that comes to mind is Steve Williams (?), who had
> a Phillies show on KYW in Philadelphia in the 80s.
Howard Cosell is one who comes to mind.
Sam
jay rogoff
Walt Weiss
Al Weis of the 69 Mets
Ed Reulbach (who was apparently a wonderful pitcher who never got
respect from journalists, perhaps because of early 20C anti-
Semitism? See Bill James on him in the Historical Abstract)
The Sherry brothers, Norm & Larry (LA Dodgers & elsewhere)
Moe Solomon, NY Giants in the 20s, who was called The Rabbi of Swat.
He owns a lifetime batting avg of .600 (3 for 5).
Al Rosen, one of the best-hitting 3b-men who ever lived.
Koufax as well as Greenberg missed World Series starts because of Yom
Kippur.
There is a book that you can find in sale catalogues occasionally
called _Jewish Baseball Stars_, and baseball mavin Peter Bjarkman has
compiled a pretty definitive list of Jewish ballplayers in the bigs.
Rick Bronstein
Jewish ballplayer.
Also - I seem to recall seeing a Star of David around the neck
of Don Sutton in his later years with the Dodgers.
Roger Lustig
>I think you can add former A's first baseman Mike Epstein (no relation) to
>the list.
A good bet, given that he called himself "Superjew."
Roger
Roger Lustig
What;s your source for Carew's conversion? I don't recall him mentioning
it in his autobiog; only that he married a Jewish woman and was eventually
accepted by her family. On the other hand, I do believe that Elliott
Maddox converted.
Roger
Roger Lustig
>Once, on Jeopardy, the category was "Jewish Sports Heros," believe it
>or not. The answer was, "This pitcher had four no-hitters with the
>Dodgers in the 60s." The contestant said, "Who is Hank Aaron?" Alex
>Trebek said something like, "I don't think Hank Aaron was a pitcher."
Well, it *is* a Jewish name...
8-)
Roger
Roger Lustig
Don't know about Staub, but I doubt that Mordecai Peter Centennial Brown
was Jewish. There weren't that many Jews in rural Indiana, where he came from,
and to the best of my knowledge there are only two Jewish HOFers.
Someone else mentioned Bo Belinsky. That's right.
Roger
Roger Lustig
>For that matter, how many Gentleman of The Press Box have been Jewish? The
>only Jewish sportscaster that comes to mind is Steve Williams (?), who had
>a Phillies show on KYW in Philadelphia in the 80s.
Start with Mel Allen, go on until you get to Ken Levine. Gary Cohen is in
there somewhere. Also Roy Firestone.
Writers? Thousands of them.
Roger
Roger Lustig
>In article <C5L9z...@world.std.com>, East...@world.std.com (Mark Bernstein) writes:
>> For that matter, how many Gentleman of The Press Box have been Jewish? The
>> only Jewish sportscaster that comes to mind is Steve Williams (?), who had
>> a Phillies show on KYW in Philadelphia in the 80s.
>Howard Cosell is one who comes to mind.
Gee, d'ya think Len Berman's Jewish?
Roger
T...@psuvm.psu.edu
was Jewish. There weren't that many Jews in rural Indiana, where he came from,
and to the best of my knowledge there are only two Jewish HOFers.
>Someone else mentioned Bo Belinsky. That's right.
And then Art Shamsky, old Met and Red. The Mets faced the Pirates in a
double header in September of 1969, with the Pirates starting two right-
handed pitchers. Shamsky was the Mets' major left-handed power-hitting
source, but he couldn't play that day because of a Jewish holiday. The Mets
wound up winning both games by 1-0 scores, with the pitchers driving in
both of the runs.
Tom Warms
Penn State
D. DANIEL SOKOL
How about Steve Stone of WGN who does the Cubs?
or Tony Korhiezer and Shirly Povich (Maury's dad) of the Washington Post?
-Danny
Ted Frank
>In article <1993Apr16....@informix.com> bar...@informix.com (Barry Mednick) writes:
>>Lowenstein is NOT Jewish. However, there is a long list including
>>Hank Greenberg, Moe Berg, Rod Carew (a convert), the Sherry brothers,
>>Art Shamsky, and Ron Blomberg.
>
>What;s your source for Carew's conversion?
Twelve-year-old Sports Illustrated article, give or take a couple of years.
Plus, his entry in the Book of Lists. :)
>I don't recall him mentioning
>it in his autobiog; only that he married a Jewish woman and was eventually
>accepted by her family.
He may very well not have taken the conversion particularly seriously,
but he did convert before he married.
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Roger Lustig
>There is a book that you can find in sale catalogues occasionally
>called _Jewish Baseball Stars_, and baseball mavin Peter Bjarkman has
>compiled a pretty definitive list of Jewish ballplayers in the bigs.
I wish I hadn't sold my copy of Jewish Baseball Stars. It's a Short Shelf
(i.e., the one on top of the toilet tank) Special. The writing in that
books is so astonishingly awful -- every sportswriting cliche taken to
the nth degree and then mangled -- that it's funny.
Rusinow is the author, I think.
Roger
Roger Lustig
>
>Roger Lustig (ro...@crux.Princeton.EDU) wrote:
>> In article <1993Apr16...@acad.drake.edu> sbp...@acad.drake.edu writes:
>> >In article <C5L9z...@world.std.com>, East...@world.std.com (Mark Bernstein) writes:
>> >> For that matter, how many Gentleman of The Press Box have been Jewish? The
>> >> only Jewish sportscaster that comes to mind is Steve Williams (?), who had
>> >> a Phillies show on KYW in Philadelphia in the 80s.
>> >Howard Cosell is one who comes to mind.
>> Gee, d'ya think Len Berman's Jewish?
>
>How about Steve Stone of WGN who does the Cubs?
We already got him under Pitchers, Overrated, Jewish.
>or Tony Korhiezer and Shirly Povich (Maury's dad) of the Washington Post?
Probably. Is SHirley P still alive? Just wondering.
Roger
>-Danny
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fisher greg
That's right. Remember Hank Greenberg??!!
Bob Comarow
RVES...@vma.cc.nd.edu
>
>Wasn't Ron Bloomberg, the former Yankee who got the first base hit
>by a Designated Hitter, Jewish??
i have no idea, nor do i care. however, i'd like to point out that
blomberg got the first plate appearance by a designated hitter, and
the first walk by a designated hitter. i am not sure, but i do not
think that he also got the first hit by a designated hitter.
bob vesterman.
RVES...@vma.cc.nd.edu
says:
>
>(Which reminds me: do they still serve Kosher hot dogs at the new Comiskey?)
>
yup. with onions, of all things.
bob vesterman.
Roger Lustig
theodore r krueger
Don is a born-again christian. Many christians wear the Star of David as
a sign of solidarity with their hebrew brethren.
Ted
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>
>Gerald Perry of the Cardinals pinch hit in the eighth inning with two
>on and his club down by a run. He stroked a line drive into the
>right field corner. The ball cleared the three-foot high fence and
>went into the crowd. Darryl, racing over from right center, got to
>the spot in time to reach his glove up over the short fence, but he
>missed the ball. A fan sitting in the front row, wearing a mitt,
>reached up and caught the ball. Home run.
>
I saw something like this happen a few years ago in an Indian's game. I think
that depending on the Umpire's discretion he can call interference on the fan
and call the batter out. I think that it has to be pretty evident to the
umpire that the fan interfered though.
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>
>I enjoy the attitude of the Wrigley fans, where they are against
>visiting team home runs so much, they actually throw them back on the
>field.
This happened the other day at Candlestick(?). Someone hit a homerun into the
left field bleachers, and I guess that it was ball day or something because
the fan threw the ball back, followed by about 40-50 other balls. San
Francisco management has determined to try to eliminate this by (get this
one!), restricting the sale of alcohol in that area of the park. Yea, good
plan guys, might work.
James Kahn
Jim
Michael Locker
> Let's not forget Al Michaels, of "Do you believe in miracles?" fame.
>
> Jim
Of course, you can't forget Mel Allen.
Michael
Scott Barman
>I believe that Rusty Staub was also a jewish ball-player
Rust Staub is NOT Jewish.
In fact, I think his father was a minister.
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Scott Barman
Sez Dave Kingman when he used to take off for Rosh Hashanna and Yom
Kippur on days they coincided with the season.
Scott Barman
>That exuberance disappeared immediately, however, when Strawberry
>went into a tirade at the man. All reports indicate he used a lot
>of profanity and accused the man of interference, and therefore of
>costing the Dodgers a game. Shortly afterwards other fans hurled
>food and beverages toward the man who made the catch. Dodger Stadium
>officials started to remove him from the park, but then relented and
>just relocated him to another area. In an interview after the game,
>Lasorda blamed the fan for the loss. Strawberry also went into a
>tirade about how the fans are stupid and they don't care about
>winning. L.A. Times columnists similarly blasted the man who made
>the catch.
Sounds like Darryl being Darryl, Tommy spending too much time on
Slim Fast and needs a pasta fix, and the media being their usual
"charming" selves. Sounds like a New York-like story to me!! :-)
I saw the replay and am wondering what the big deal is? I didn't
realize the folks in LA were making a big to do about it. I think
Stawberry, Lasorda and the various media types should sit and watch
the replay then apologize to the fan.
>Others have questioned why Darryl should be so concerned with what
>the fan did when he has a grand total of 1 rbi through the first
>nine games.
Darryl has not gotten off to a good start, he has to blame someone.
>But I guess the big debate continues as to what are the responsibilities
>of the fan.
As long as the fan doesn't interfere with the play I see no problems.
Stephen Cordova
Roman Catholic. Kieth and Rusty would carpool to Shea everyday but
Sunday, when Rusty would go to mass.
SC
Jason Abner Miller
>In article <1993Apr19.0...@Princeton.EDU> ro...@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig) writes:
>>In article <Psm82B...@jwt.oau.org> bbs-c...@jwt.oau.org writes:
>>>Dave Kingman is Jewish
>>
>>Sez who?
>
>Sez Dave Kingman when he used to take off for Rosh Hashanna and Yom
>Kippur on days they coincided with the season.
The only problem is, Dave Kingman was *always* taking off.
Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur, Easter, the day Elvis died (8/16), the entire
spring training month of Ramadan, Purim, the 4th of July (both games
that day), my birthday (OK, during the World Series, he never had to
play there), Memorial day (both games that day), ...
Guys, help me out here. I've run fresh out of holidays that
coincide with the baseball season and I'm trying to catalogue all the
days in his career that Dave Kingman (or at least his bat) went AWOL.
A complete religious calendar detailing every holiday in every
extant religion in the Western Hemisphere would be appreciated. Only
then can we truly be certain that Dave Kingman observed every holiday
ever conceived...
:-), of course ...NOT!
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Jason A. Miller
"some doctor guy"
Frank Tanana: 1 win?!?!?
Roger Lustig
>In article <1993Apr19.0...@Princeton.EDU> ro...@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig) writes:
>>In article <Psm82B...@jwt.oau.org> bbs-c...@jwt.oau.org writes:
>>>Dave Kingman is Jewish
>>Sez who?
>Sez Dave Kingman when he used to take off for Rosh Hashanna and Yom
>Kippur on days they coincided with the season.
Live and learn.
Actually, this indicates *real* equality such as I've been alluding to
in another thread. It's one thing to have a real prince like Hank
Greenberg around; but real equality involves having an asshole like
Kingman being accepted. 8-)
Love and rats,
Roger