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tle3...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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May 9, 1990, 4:14:00 PM5/9/90
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There was a Dickie Knowles.
I'd bet my life on it.

-elliott, tim
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Steve Novak #3000 x2110

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May 10, 1990, 4:47:23 PM5/10/90
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> = (John Kemp) writes:

>> = tle3...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
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>>There was a Dickie Knowles.
>
>I'm sure there was (maybe many), but he never played Major League baseball.

>
>>I'd bet my life on it.
>
>Be careful.

Hey, just a little spelling confusion...it was Dickie Noles, and he
pitched for the Cubs (for the 2nd time, I believe) as recently as the
early 80's.

>Harold Brooks Internet/Bitnet:bro...@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu


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John Kemp

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May 10, 1990, 1:22:08 PM5/10/90
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In article <5900...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> tle3...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
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>There was a Dickie Knowles.

I'm sure there was (maybe many), but he never played Major League baseball.

>I'd bet my life on it.

Be careful.

>
>-elliott, tim

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Russ Smith

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May 10, 1990, 2:32:54 PM5/10/90
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In article <1990May10.1...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, tun...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (John Kemp) writes:
> In article <5900...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> tle3...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
> >There was a Dickie Knowles.
> I'm sure there was (maybe many), but he never played Major League baseball.
> >I'd bet my life on it.
> Be careful.
> >
> >-elliott, tim
>
> Harold Brooks Internet/Bitnet:bro...@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu

Is all this Dickie Knowles stuff for real? Of course he played in the majors,
with both the Cubs and the Phillies. He made the headlines for his alcohol
abuse too. He also gave up the winning hit in a game this week(I can't
remember who he plays for now) because I saw it on Sportcenter. Darold Knowles
was a different guy, was on the Cards at one time. I think he's a pitching
caoach now.

Russ Smith

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filled with no-shows" -Pat Summerall

William J. Fischer

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May 10, 1990, 3:06:49 PM5/10/90
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> Is all this Dickie Knowles stuff for real? Of course he played in the majors,
> with both the Cubs and the Phillies. He made the headlines for his alcohol
> abuse too. He also gave up the winning hit in a game this week(I can't

The player's name was Dickie Noles, if I am not mistaken. He used to bean
a lot of people, too. I think the spelling is wrong, and yeah, Darrel
Knowles was someone else.

Randy Peppler

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May 10, 1990, 3:19:39 PM5/10/90
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In article <59...@oliveb.atc.olivetti.com> rsm...@olivey.olivetti.com (Russ Smith) writes:
>In article <1990May10.1...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, tun...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (John Kemp) writes:
>> In article <5900...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> tle3...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>> >There was a Dickie Knowles.
>> I'm sure there was (maybe many), but he never played Major League baseball.
>> >I'd bet my life on it.
>> Be careful.
>
>Is all this Dickie Knowles stuff for real? Of course he played in the majors,
>with both the Cubs and the Phillies. He made the headlines for his alcohol
>abuse too. He also gave up the winning hit in a game this week(I can't
>remember who he plays for now) because I saw it on Sportcenter. Darold Knowles
>was a different guy, was on the Cards at one time. I think he's a pitching
>caoach now.


Maybe everyone is confused because the guy's name is Dickie Noles!
He was on the Cubs team of '84, I believe, was with the Phillies
before that (he followed Dallas Green around for a while), and went
to Texas after his Chicago stint, for Davey Lopes, who helped the
Cubs for a bit. The guy was pretty decent for a short time. His
boozing problems probably got the best of him...

Darold Knowles was someone totally distinct from Dickie, and I
think may have been on at least one of those great A's teams of
the early '70s.
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Timothy Mavor

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May 10, 1990, 3:38:07 PM5/10/90
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>Is all this Dickie Knowles stuff for real? Of course he played in the majors,
>with both the Cubs and the Phillies. He made the headlines for his alcohol
>abuse too. He also gave up the winning hit in a game this week(I can't
>remember who he plays for now) because I saw it on Sportcenter. Darold Knowles
>was a different guy, was on the Cards at one time. I think he's a pitching
>caoach now.

I think the point here, which has been brought up a few times, is that:

"Yes, Dickie Noles did play for the Cubs and Phils."
^^^^^
and
"He is not related to Darold Knowles."
^^^^^^^
and
"There is/was no such player as Dickie Knowles!"
^^^^^^^

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David M Tate

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May 10, 1990, 5:04:40 PM5/10/90
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>Is all this Dickie Knowles stuff for real? Of course he played in the majors,

No, Dickie Noles played in the majors. Don't know about Mr. Knowles :-).

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Russ Smith

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May 10, 1990, 6:43:12 PM5/10/90
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Allright already, if you read the posting I responded to you'll find the
use of Knowles not Noles. This is why I used that spelling. I guess any
further attempts at sarcasm must be duly smiley faced. It was Darold Knowles
not Darrell(if people can correct me I can correct them). Anyway whoever
originally misspelled Knowles probably made a mistake, why does everyone
feel inclined to point that out. One correction should suffice. Sorry to
take this out on Dr. Dave(one of the few posters on this net that doesn't
resort to nit-picking). The point is Dickie Noles did play in the majors
as did Darold Knowles. As far as I remember they both were less than hall
of fame material so why are they so popular all of a sudden.

Steve Novak #3000 x2110

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May 11, 1990, 4:07:33 PM5/11/90
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> = (Russ Smith) writes:
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>Allright already, if you read the posting I responded to you'll find the
>use of Knowles not Noles. This is why I used that spelling.

> Anyway whoever


>originally misspelled Knowles probably made a mistake, why does everyone
>feel inclined to point that out. One correction should suffice.

Calm down, Russ, have a beer or a Valium. Like most people who
corrected that mis-spelling, I read my net.news one at a time,
responding to posts I feel like responding to, especially when I read
every day. Probably the same thing happened with all the OTHER
responders.

Besides, the goddamned argument of whether or not Noles played in the
Majors went on and on, too.


>Russ Smith

Monty Norwood

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May 21, 1990, 4:34:41 PM5/21/90
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There was a Dickie Noles in the 80's and a Darold Knowles in the 70's.

Darold pitched for the Senators and the Oakland A's before ending up in
Chicago. He set a record for pitchers by appearing in all 7 games in one
of the 72-73-74 World series appearances of the A's. He was one of the
few good pitchers the Senators had. In any case, Mitch Williams broke the
Cubs record for career saves by a lefthander last year which had been
owned by Darold Knowles. Hope this clarifies the life threatening
situation...

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