What is a "Greg Maddux call"?
King Tut
throws it, but called a ball when any other pitcher throws it.
Its sad to see, but baseball is starting to fall prey to
protecting its superstars, just like the NBA. In the NBA, the
superstars never foul, they only get fouled. If it is SO obvious
that a superstar committed a foul, the refs call it, then
re-assign it to a scrub player. In this way, they protect the
superstars and make sure they don't foul out.
For Greg Maddux, it is clear the he is given about 7 to 10 pitches
per game as strikes that are only called strikes for one reason:
Greg Maddux threw them. Baseball needs marquee pitchers badly right
now, and the umps are protecting Maddux by giving him the calls.
The rest of the pitchers have a right to complain when they don't
get the same outside strike call.
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strikes if umpires would just call stuff above the belt.
In defense of Maddux, pitchers with good control expand the plate all
the time. It's part of the game. Once Maddux proves to the umpire that
he _can_ nick the outside edge with precision, he'll continue to give
him the benefit of the doubt the rest of the game. Umpires are only
human, after all. This only excuses those pitches that are 2 or 3 inches
outside, not the almost-wild-pitches you see every now and then called
for strikes.
In article <8falo0$r1d$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
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Epix78
throw outside/inside pitches that were called strikes? What about pitches that
are knee high or just above the belt called balls? You must have missed all
those. Well, they are pretty rare. Probably only happens about two dozen
times a game.
Boy, thank goodness for those umps because without them Maddux would never have
won 4 STRAIGHT Cy Young awards.
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King Tut
epi...@aol.com (Epix78) wrote:
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> How many baseball games have you watched? Have you never seen
> other pitchers throw outside/inside pitches that were called
> strikes? What about pitches that are knee high or just above
> the belt called balls? You must have missed all those. Well,
> they are pretty rare. Probably only happens about two dozen
> times a game. Boy, thank goodness for those umps because without
> them Maddux would never have won 4 STRAIGHT Cy Young awards.
Your childish post doesn't change the fact that the boy King
was 100% correct - Greg Maddux gets strikes called that others
don't. I'm not saying it helped him win his 1st Cy Young award,
but after he estabolished himself as a top pitcher, he has
had help from the umps, and the situation has only gotten more
unfair as the years go by......
King Tut
jvv...@aol.comNOSPAM (JVV4sm) wrote:
>
> Why didn't Tut know Henderson was about to be waived?
A light hitting, over-the-hill clubhouse cancer who has
had known problems with the manager gets waived. This
wasn't exactly unexpected to those who know baseball.
King Tut
jvv...@aol.comNOSPAM (JVV4sm) wrote:
>
> What county in Egypt are you from?
All of Egypt is my land. I am the King!
King Tut
johnny...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> The irony is, baseball wouldn't _need_ to call pitches a foot
> outside strikes if umpires would just call stuff above the belt.
>
> In defense of Maddux, pitchers with good control expand the plate
> all the time. It's part of the game. Once Maddux proves to the
> umpire that he _can_ nick the outside edge with precision,
> he'll continue to give him the benefit of the doubt the rest of
> the game. Umpires are only human, after all. This only excuses
> those pitches that are 2 or 3 inches outside, not the
> almost-wild-pitches you see every now and then called for strikes.
There is no question that many of Greg Maddux win's these days
are due to the calls he gets from umps, that other pitchers don't
get. The only uncertainty is: when did Maddux cross the line and
become more reliant on the calls to win games, as opposed to the
old days when his ability won games for him? Probably about 1995
is when Maddux went on the baseball welfare system.
Colin T. William
> The irony is, baseball wouldn't _need_ to call pitches a foot outside
> strikes if umpires would just call stuff above the belt.
Or if they'd force batters back into the batters box. The outside pitches
would look so extremely far away that only Eric Gregg could call them
strikes.
Colin
Doug Norris
>In article <20000510050842...@ng-ch1.aol.com>,
> jvv...@aol.comNOSPAM (JVV4sm) wrote:
>>
>> Why didn't Tut know Henderson was about to be waived?
>A light hitting, over-the-hill clubhouse cancer who has
>had known problems with the manager gets waived. This
>wasn't exactly unexpected to those who know baseball.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thanks for explaining why *you* didn't know about it. Very candid.
Doug
Mark Whittaker
in the 1997 playoffs Florida vs Atlanta, Livan Hernandez on the
hill?
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Mark Whittaker wrote:
> So 'King' what reason do you give for the umpires performance
> in the 1997 playoffs Florida vs Atlanta, Livan Hernandez on the
> hill?
>
Bart Giamatti was threatening their families
(everybody knows that)
Colin T. William
No, you haven't paid attention: That's what happens when the umpires GIVE
other pitchers the same strike zone they GIVE (according to some strange
conspiracy) Maddux. Further argument suggests that this was also GIVEN to
Denny Neagle, but apparently only during the time he was with Atlanta.
Such an "I saw it and therefore it's true" argument is often made by
people who will then turn around say that just because you saw Joe Carter
as a clutch hitter or Griffey as a stellar defensive CF, that doesn't mean
it's true.
Colin
King Tut
"Mark Whittaker" <mar...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>
> So 'King' what reason do you give for the umpires performance
> in the 1997 playoffs Florida vs Atlanta, Livan Hernandez on the
> hill?
If you need evidence that Greg Maddux is on baseball welfare,
getting pitches called strikes that other pitchers would get
called balls, just watch some baseball games. Get some experience
with the game before scholping your gak to the boy King!