Whom did Dave Stewart punch out?

[Jeffrey Lichtman]

I'm not talking about a strikeout here. Dave Stewart once decked a guy
who was charging the mound. Can someone tell me who it was, and what the
circumstances were?

Thanks.
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[Perry Sailor]

"Jeffrey Lichtman" <jeffli...@baseball-for-rookies.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not talking about a strikeout here. Dave Stewart once decked a guy
> who was charging the mound. Can someone tell me who it was, and what the
> circumstances were?

I spent about 1 minute searching google -- someone said it was Pat Corrales
(Indians manager at the time IIRC) in 1986, but it was just some guy on a
message board so I wouldn't consider it definitive. Might give you enough
of a clue that you can confirm it from a more credible source, however.

Perry
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[igor eduardo küpfer]

On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 16:52:08 -0600, "Perry Sailor"
<perry....@ReMoVeThIscolorado.edu> wrote in
<ch5jqq$jm0$1...@peabody.colorado.edu>:

>
>"Jeffrey Lichtman" <jeffli...@baseball-for-rookies.com> wrote in message
>news:41364621$0$19709$61fe...@news.rcn.com...
>> I'm not talking about a strikeout here. Dave Stewart once decked a guy
>> who was charging the mound. Can someone tell me who it was, and what the
>> circumstances were?
>
>I spent about 1 minute searching google -- someone said it was Pat Corrales
>(Indians manager at the time IIRC) in 1986, but it was just some guy on a
>message board so I wouldn't consider it definitive. Might give you enough
>of a clue that you can confirm it from a more credible source, however.
>

BaseballLibrary.com has this to say:

"In 1986, Corrales charged Oakland pitcher Dave Stewart and tried to kick him
but was quickly decked by a Stewart right to the jaw."

http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/C/Corrales_Pat.stm

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[Tom MacIntyre]

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 15:03:57 -0700, Jeffrey Lichtman
<jeffli...@baseball-for-rookies.com> wrote:

>I'm not talking about a strikeout here. Dave Stewart once decked a guy
>who was charging the mound. Can someone tell me who it was, and what the
>circumstances were?
>
>Thanks.

Wasn't Stewart a high-ranked belt in martial arts, karate, perhaps?

Tom

[Mpoconnor7]

>
>Wasn't Stewart a high-ranked belt in martial arts, karate, perhaps?

I remember the incident and Stewart tried to issue a karate kick to Corrales.

Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man

"The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct
proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"
James Mason from the movie "Heaven Can Wait".

[Matt Deres]

"Mpoconnor7" <mpoco...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
news:20040901212317...@mb-m06.aol.com...

> >
> >Wasn't Stewart a high-ranked belt in martial arts, karate, perhaps?
>
> I remember the incident and Stewart tried to issue a karate kick to
Corrales.

While with the Jays, Todd Stottlemyre gave a batter a belly-to-belly suplex
when he charged the mound. Can't recall the name of the player, but it
probably was in 1992 or 1991.

Ryan's manhandling of Ventura remains the all-time best, IMO.

Matt

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[JPM III]

Matt Deres wrote in
news:08vZc.161396$UTP.1...@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com:

>
> "Mpoconnor7" <mpoco...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
> news:20040901212317...@mb-m06.aol.com...
> > >
> > > Wasn't Stewart a high-ranked belt in martial arts, karate,
> > > perhaps?
> >
> > I remember the incident and Stewart tried to issue a karate kick to
> > Corrales.
>
> While with the Jays, Todd Stottlemyre gave a batter a belly-to-belly
> suplex when he charged the mound. Can't recall the name of the
> player, but it probably was in 1992 or 1991.
>
> Ryan's manhandling of Ventura remains the all-time best, IMO.

Damnit, you said it first!
The best thing about it... Ryan stayed in the game! :-)

[JPM III]

> > > I'm not talking about a strikeout here. Dave Stewart once decked
> > > a guy who was charging the mound. Can someone tell me who it was,
> > > and what the circumstances were?
> >
> > I spent about 1 minute searching google -- someone said it was Pat
> > Corrales (Indians manager at the time IIRC) in 1986, but it was
> > just some guy on a message board so I wouldn't consider it
> > definitive. Might give you enough of a clue that you can confirm
> > it from a more credible source, however.
> >
>
> BaseballLibrary.com has this to say:
>
> "In 1986, Corrales charged Oakland pitcher Dave Stewart and tried to
> kick him but was quickly decked by a Stewart right to the jaw."
>
> http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/C/Corrales_Pat.stm

Man, the things you learn about your teams coaches in the oddest of
circumstances...

[Steve Grant]

"Mpoconnor7" <mpoco...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
news:20040901212317...@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >

> >Wasn't Stewart a high-ranked belt in martial arts, karate, perhaps?
>
> I remember the incident and Stewart tried to issue a karate kick to
Corrales.

I remember it the other way around -- Corrales tried (not very effectively)
to kick Stewart.

[Bill G]

"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__ma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm pretty sure he was a black belt, but I don't know which discipline.

Bill G

>
> Tom

[M. S. Burton]

"Jeffrey Lichtman" <jeffli...@baseball-for-rookies.com> wrote

> I'm not talking about a strikeout here. Dave Stewart once decked a guy
> who was charging the mound. Can someone tell me who it was, and what the
> circumstances were?

July 2, 1986
Manager of the Indians battles with A's pitcher
The Toronto Star

Cleveland manager Pat Corrales, nursing a bruised cheek from a right cross
that knocked him down, acknowledged "it wasn't a smart move" to start a
fight with Oakland A's pitcher Dave Stewart.

Corrales, holder of a brown belt in karate, sparked a bench-clearing brawl
in the seventh inning of Cleveland's 9-0 American League baseball romp over
the A's in Oakland yesterday, when he charged toward Stewart and kicked him
in the ribs.

Stewart, a second-year student of the Korean martial art Tae Kwon Do, had no
regrets about decking Corrales, saying the 45-year-old manager deserved it
and calling him a "sissy" and "coward" for kicking him.

Corrales came out of the dugout to complain to home plate umpire Derryl
Cousins that Stewart should have been thrown out of the game for throwing a
pitch that almost hit Julio Franco, the first batter following Bernazard's
first homer.

While talking with Cousins, Corrales exchanged shouts with Stewart, who was
still on the mound.

"He was cussing me," Stewart said.

Corrales responded: "He said 'Come on out here,' so I did. It wasn't a very
smart move but I had to do it. I'm going to protect my players."

[Jim]

"Matt Deres" wrote:
> While with the Jays, Todd Stottlemyre gave a batter a belly-to-belly
suplex
> when he charged the mound. Can't recall the name of the player, but it
> probably was in 1992 or 1991.
>
> Ryan's manhandling of Ventura remains the all-time best, IMO.

My favorite was Ed Ott's easy take down and headlock of the much larger Rob
Dibble.

Ott was an ex-Marine and Dibble was a jerk.

Jim

[SavoyBG]

>From: Ralph Malph

>Stewart was miffed and couldn't understand why
>he was overlooked as Ash's replacement.

I think it was because his voice was too high. Stewart sounded like his balls
were in a vice.

cordially, as always,

Grossman

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[Tom MacIntyre]

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 01:59:24 GMT, "Matt Deres" <mdere...@rogers.com>
wrote:

>
>"Mpoconnor7" <mpoco...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
>news:20040901212317...@mb-m06.aol.com...
>> >
>> >Wasn't Stewart a high-ranked belt in martial arts, karate, perhaps?
>>
>> I remember the incident and Stewart tried to issue a karate kick to
>Corrales.
>
>While with the Jays, Todd Stottlemyre gave a batter a belly-to-belly suplex
>when he charged the mound. Can't recall the name of the player, but it
>probably was in 1992 or 1991.
>
>Ryan's manhandling of Ventura remains the all-time best, IMO.
>

I composed lyrics about that, using the music from the "Rawhide" theme
(also used on the "Feel the Heat" video). I wish I could remember
them. About the only part I remember goes something like this...the
third-baseman from the White Sox, had a lesson from the school of hard
knocks...something like that.

Tom

[The Dave©]

> Matt Deres wrote:
> Ryan's manhandling of Ventura remains the all-time best, IMO.

I still remember the picture in the paper. I loved that one!

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A. - Because they want to.

[Steven Rubio]

I was at that game with my daughter, who was 8 years old at the time.
She was a frequent visitor to Candlestick Park, but rarely made a trip
to Oakland. After the brawl, she stated that she'd never seen a fight
at the ball game before. Are you sure, I asked, thinking of all those
long nights at Candlestick for Giant-Dodger games. "I mean on the
field, Dad!"

Steven

[Tom MacIntyre]

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 22:48:42 GMT, "The Dave©" <n...@no.com> wrote:

>> Matt Deres wrote:
>> Ryan's manhandling of Ventura remains the all-time best, IMO.
>
>I still remember the picture in the paper. I loved that one!

On a side note, one of my favourite pictures of Ryan was of him
pitching after being hit in the mouth by a Bo Jackson infield
high-bouncer.

My favourite is the personally-autographed 8x10 that a friend got for
me in spring training one year. Of course, it now has dual ownership.
:-)

Tom

[Matt Higham]

I know just what you mean. Growing up in the Bay Area, I remember seeing that on local TV. Day game at the Coliseum. Stewart either brushed back a guy that was crowding the plate, or actually hit him. The batter charged the mound to get a piece of Stewart. He, on the other hand, coolly threw his glove to the ground, took a couple of steps towards the plate, and flattened the batter with one punch. It was awesome!

Stewart had the one no-hitter against the Blue Jays in 1990, but either in 1989 or 1990, he threw a complete game shutout of the Yankees, facing the minimum 27 batters. Rickey Henderson bunted for in infield single to lead off the game, was subsequently erased in a double-play, and Stewart retired every subsequent batter he faced. When he was one, he was one of the best pitchers I ever saw.