All Time St. Louis region born team
Mark Reichert
decided to make up All Time teams for Missouri state and the St. Louis
region. Feel free to give any alternative players. Feel free to do
your own for other cities and states.
Yes, I do know there are 36 players here. Just think of this as a
winter roster. :)
For the St. Louis region, I was just going to use the counties of the
Metropolitan Area of St. Louis, but I ran accross a web site that was
showing the history of the St. Louis Region and it covered the
counties just beyond the Metro area. I expanded to the counties just
beyond those when I found restricting myself to the smaller area was
losing me too many regulars. As it is, I may be making a mistake by
including Sangamon, the county including Springfield, Illinois and
leaving out the county including Springfield, Missouri, since
Springfield IL may be oriented more towards the major league teams in
the state, the Cubs and White Sox, than the team of the closest city,
while Springfield MO has always been a Cardinal fan region. Anyway,
here are the counties I allowed.
St. Louis, MO-IL Region:
Illinois Counties:
Bond, Calhoun, Christian, Clinton, Fayette, Franklin, Greene, Jackson,
Jefferson, Jersey, Macoupin, Madison, Marion, Monroe, Montgomery,
Morgan, Perry, Pike, Randolph, St. Clair, Sangamon, Scott, Shelby,
Washington
Missouri Counties:
Audrain, Bolinger, Callaway, Crawford, Franklin, Gasconade, Iron,
Jefferson, Lincoln, Madison, Maries, Montgomery, Osage, Perry, Phelps,
Pike, St. Charles, St. Francois, St. Genevieve, St. Louis City, St.
Louis County, Warren, Washington
The players and pitchers on the career and single season teams are the
same, but different men are starters if somebody with a less
noteworthy career had a better single season. Rank is the rank given
by Bill James in the New Historical Abstract. WS is the Win Shares
assigned to the player for his career or single season.
Billy Rogell's 1933-34 seasons are a perfect illustration of the
stability of James' Win Shares allocations. Rogell earned 25 Win
Shares in 1933 and 24 in 1934, and his OBP, SLG, and fielding did
indeed drop a little bit. The seasons also show that the system is
fair for players on both good and bad teams because the 1933 team
scored 722 runs and allowed 733 and had a 75-79 record while the
legendary 1934 team that played the Gas House Cardinals scored 958
runs and allowed 708 runs and had a 101-53 record. Rogell with similar
OPS in both years goes from 67 runs, 57 rbis in 1933 to 114 runs, 100
rbis in 1934.
Bake McBride was actually ranked 107 as a right fielder but since I
only had two ranked left fielders from the St. Louis region, I moved
him. I'd have picked Max Flack if his 26 Win Share season hadn't been
in the Federal League.
Pardon the split stats, minimal spacing, and initials but it was the
only way to do away with really messy word wrapping when putting these
stats in a newsgroup post via Google groups.
Career totals of Batters Born in St. Louis region
Player Rank WS Ps From To G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI
-------------+----+---+---+------+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+----+
Y. Berra 1 375 C 1946-65 2120 7555 1175 2150 321 49 358 1430
T. Kluszewski 34 203 1B 1947-61 1718 5929 848 1766 290 29 279 1028
L. Doyle 20 289 2B 1907-20 1766 6509 960 1887 299 123 74 793
K. Boyer 12 279 3B 1955-69 2034 7455 1104 2143 318 68 282 1141
A. Fletcher 41 218 SS 1909-22 1533 5541 684 1534 238 77 32 675
H. Evers 100 122 LF 1941-56 1142 3801 556 1055 187 41 98 565
G. Van Haltren 28 344 CF 1887-03 1984 8021 1639 2532 285 161 69 1014
Al Smith 74 194 RF 1953-64 1517 5357 843 1458 258 46 164 676
E. Howard 15 203 C 1955-68 1605 5363 619 1471 218 50 167 762
M. Ruel 51 158 C 1915-34 1468 4514 494 1242 187 29 4 534
R. Sievers 41 231 1B 1949-65 1887 6387 945 1703 292 42 318 1147
N. Siebern 63 171 1B 1956-68 1406 4481 662 1217 206 38 132 636
R. Schoendienst 28 262 2B 1945-63 2216 8479 1223 2449 427 78 84 773
L. Frey 32 208 2B 1933-48 1535 5517 848 1482 263 69 61 549
G. Gaetti 34 251 3B 1981-00 2507 8951 1130 2280 443 39 360 1341
H. Steinfeldt 57 208 3B 1898-11 1646 5896 758 1576 284 90 27 762
C. Hollocher 66 113 SS 1918-24 760 2936 411 894 145 35 14 241
B. Gilkey 101 131 LF 1990-01 1239 4061 606 1115 244 24 118 546
B. McBride(RF) 107 132 LF 1973-83 1071 3853 548 1153 167 55 63 430
P. Reiser 46 125 CF 1940-52 861 2662 473 786 155 41 58 368
S. Hofman 106 158 CF 1903-16 1194 4072 554 1095 162 60 19 495
H. Bauer 80 180 RF 1948-61 1544 5145 833 1424 229 57 164 703
J. Tobin 92 179 RF 1914-27 1619 6174 936 1906 294 99 64 581
Player BB SO BA OBP SLG SB CS P.O.B.
+------------------+----+----+-----+-----+-----+----+--+----------+
Yogi Berra 704 414 .285 .348 .482 30 26 St. Louis
Ted Kluszewski 492 365 .298 .353 .498 20 10 Argo
Larry Doyle 625 274 .290 .357 .408 298 27 Caseyville
Ken Boyer 713 1017 .287 .349 .462 105 77 Liberty
Art Fletcher 203 348 .277 .319 .365 159 28 Collinsville
Hoot Evers 415 420 .278 .353 .426 45 36 St. Louis
George Van Haltren 868 305 .316 .385 .417 583 St. Louis
Al Smith 674 768 .272 .358 .429 67 43 Kirkwood
Elston Howard 373 786 .274 .322 .427 9 14 St. Louis
Muddy Ruel 606 238 .275 .365 .332 61 59 St. Louis
Roy Sievers 841 920 .267 .354 .475 14 19 St. Louis
Norm Siebern 708 748 .272 .369 .423 18 25 St. Louis
Red Schoendienst 606 346 .289 .337 .387 89 27 Germantown
Lonny Frey 752 525 .269 .359 .374 105 St. Louis
Gary Gaetti 634 1602 .255 .308 .434 96 65 Centralia
Harry Steinfeldt 471 32 .267 .330 .360 194 St. Louis
Charlie Hollocher 277 94 .304 .370 .392 99 80 St. Louis
Bernard Gilkey 466 708 .275 .352 .434 115 71 St. Louis
Bake McBride(RF) 248 457 .299 .345 .420 183 63 Fulton
Pete Reiser 343 369 .295 .380 .450 87 3 St. Louis
Solly Hofman 421 171 .269 .340 .352 208 St. Louis
Hank Bauer 521 638 .277 .346 .439 50 33 East St. Louis
Jack Tobin 508 267 .309 .364 .420 147 62 St. Louis
Career totals of Pitchers Born in St. Louis region
Player Rank WS From To W L WL% ERA G GS CG SHO SV
+------------+----+---+---------+---+---+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
Robin Roberts 16 339 1948-1966 286 245 .539 3.41 676 609 305 45 25
Jerry Reuss 194 1969-1990 220 191 .535 3.64 628 547 127 39 11
Dutch Leonard 160 1933-1953 191 181 .513 3.25 640 375 192 30 44
Ken Holtzman 157 1965-1979 174 150 .537 3.49 451 410 127 31 3
Lefty Leifield 132 1905-1920 124 97 .561 2.47 296 217 138 33 7
Larry Benton 129 1923-1935 127 128 .498 4.03 455 258 122 13 22
Dick Hall 113 1952-1971 93 75 .554 3.32 495 74 20 3 68
Bob Miller 99 1957-1974 69 81 .460 3.37 694 99 7 0 51
Mike Henneman 98 1987-1996 57 42 .576 3.21 561 0 0 0 193
Ken Sanders 65 1964-1976 29 45 .392 2.97 408 1 0 0 86
Jason Isringhausen 42 1995-2001 28 29 .491 4.13 211 52 3 1 76
Dick Hyde 26 1955-1961 17 14 .548 3.56 169 2 0 0 23
Player IP H ER HR BB SO P.O.B.
+-------------------+------+----+----+---+----+----+-------------+
Robin Roberts 4688.7 4582 1774 505 902 2357 Springfield
Jerry Reuss 3669.7 3734 1483 245 1127 1907 St. Louis
Dutch Leonard 3218.7 3304 1162 158 737 1170 Auburn
Ken Holtzman 2867.3 2787 1111 249 910 1601 St. Louis
Lefty Leifield 1838.0 1673 505 27 554 616 Trenton
Larry Benton 2297.0 2559 1029 109 691 670 St. Louis
Dick Hall 1259.7 1152 464 130 236 741 St. Louis
Bob Miller 1551.3 1487 581 101 608 895 St. Louis
Mike Henneman 732.7 686 261 47 271 533 St. Charles
Ken Sanders 656.7 564 217 49 258 360 St. Louis
Jason Isringhausen 499.3 503 229 42 215 376 Brighton
Dick Hyde 298.3 273 118 13 137 144 Hindsboro
Best season statistics of Batters Born in St. Louis region
Player WS Pos Year G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI
+------------------+--+---+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+----+
Yogi Berra 34 C 1954 151 584 88 179 28 6 22 125
Ted Kluszewski 33 1B 1954 149 573 104 187 28 3 49 141
Larry Doyle 33 2B 1915 150 591 86 189 40 10 4 70
Harry Steinfeldt 33 3B 1906 151 539 81 176 27 10 3 83
Charlie Hollocher 28 SS 1918 131 509 72 161 23 6 2 38
Bernard Gilkey 30 LF 1996 153 571 108 181 44 3 30 117
Pete Reiser 34 CF 1941 137 536 117 184 39 17 14 76
Al Smith 29 RF 1955 154 607 123 186 27 4 22 77
Elston Howard 32 C 1964 150 550 63 172 27 3 15 84
Muddy Ruel 23 C 1923 136 449 63 142 24 3 0 54
Roy Sievers 32 1B 1957 152 572 99 172 23 5 42 114
Norm Siebern 27 1B 1962 162 600 114 185 25 6 25 117
Red Schoendienst 27 2B 1953 146 564 107 193 35 5 15 79
Lonny Frey 25 2B 1939 125 484 95 141 27 9 11 55
Ken Boyer 31 3B 1960 151 552 95 168 26 10 32 97
Gary Gaetti 23 3B 1986 157 596 91 171 34 1 34 108
Art Fletcher 27 SS 1917 151 557 70 145 24 5 4 56
Billy Rogell 25 SS 1933 155 587 67 173 42 11 0 57
Hoot Evers 26 LF 1950 143 526 100 170 35 11 21 103
Bake McBride 22 LF 1974 150 559 81 173 19 5 6 56
Solly Hofman 31 CF 1910 136 477 83 155 24 16 3 86
George Van Haltren 29 CF 1898 156 654 129 204 28 16 2 68
Jack Tobin 25 RF 1921 150 671 132 236 31 18 8 59
Hank Bauer 21 RF 1952 141 553 86 162 31 6 17 74
Player BB SO BA OBP SLG SB CS
+------------------+----+----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+
Yogi Berra 56 29 .307 .367 .488 0 1
Ted Kluszewski 78 35 .326 .407 .642 0 2
Larry Doyle 32 28 .320 .358 .442 22 18
Harry Steinfeldt 47 .327 .395 .430 29
Charlie Hollocher 47 30 .316 .379 .397 26
Bernard Gilkey 73 125 .317 .393 .562 17 9
Pete Reiser 46 71 .343 .406 .558 4
Al Smith 93 77 .306 .407 .473 11 6
Elston Howard 48 73 .313 .371 .455 1 1
Muddy Ruel 55 21 .316 .394 .383 4 6
Roy Sievers 76 55 .301 .388 .579 1 1
Norm Siebern 110 88 .308 .412 .495 3 1
Red Schoendienst 60 23 .342 .405 .502 3 3
Lonny Frey 72 46 .291 .388 .452 5
Ken Boyer 56 77 .304 .370 .562 8 7
Gary Gaetti 52 108 .287 .347 .518 14 15
Art Fletcher 23 28 .260 .312 .343 12
Billy Rogell 79 33 .295 .381 .404 6 9
Hoot Evers 71 40 .323 .408 .551 5 9
Bake McBride 43 57 .309 .369 .394 30 11
Solly Hofman 65 34 .325 .406 .461 29
George Van Haltren 59 .312 .372 .413 36
Jack Tobin 45 22 .352 .395 .487 7 12
Hank Bauer 50 61 .293 .355 .463 6 7
Best season statistics of Pitchers Born in St. Louis region
Player WS Year W L WL% ERA G GS CG SHO SV
+------------------+--+----+--+--+----+-----+---+---+---+---+---+
Robin Roberts 35 1953 23 16 .590 2.75 44 41 33 5 2
Larry Benton 30 1928 25 9 .735 2.73 42 35 28 2 4
Larry Leifield 24 1911 16 16 .500 2.63 42 37 26 2 1
Dutch Leonard 23 1947 17 12 .586 2.68 32 29 19 3 0
Ken Holtzman 23 1970 17 11 .607 3.38 39 38 15 1 0
Jerry Reuss 21 1980 18 6 .750 2.51 37 29 10 6 3
Ken Sanders 21 1971 7 12 .368 1.91 83 0 0 0 31
Dick Hyde 19 1958 10 3 .769 1.75 53 0 0 0 18
Mike Henneman 17 1988 9 6 .600 1.87 65 0 0 0 22
Jason Isringhausen 14 2001 4 3 .571 2.65 65 0 0 0 34
Dick Hall 13 1964 9 1 .900 1.85 45 0 0 0 7
Bob Miller 13 1971 8 5 .615 1.64 56 0 0 0 10
Player IP H ER HR BB SO
+------------------+------+----+----+---+----+----+
Robin Roberts 346.7 324 106 30 61 198
Larry Benton 310.3 299 94 14 71 90
Larry Leifield 318.0 301 93 7 82 111
Dutch Leonard 235.0 224 70 14 57 103
Ken Holtzman 287.7 271 108 30 94 202
Jerry Reuss 229.3 193 64 12 40 111
Ken Sanders 136.3 111 29 9 34 80
Dick Hyde 103.0 82 20 1 35 49
Mike Henneman 91.3 72 19 7 24 58
Jason Isringhausen 71.3 54 21 5 23 74
Dick Hall 87.7 58 18 8 16 52
Bob Miller 98.7 83 18 1 40 51
Marc Sindell
Well, maybe he could be the announcer.
Mark Reichert
> What, no Garagiola?
>
> Well, maybe he could be the announcer.
That reminds me. The following are the choices available for manager:
Dick Williams, Earl Weaver, Whitey Herzog who would be the top
candidates, but also Dave Garcia, Dick Sisler, Vern Rapp.
Hank Bauer and Red Schoendienst would also qualify, but they are
players on this team.