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Nick (CJ)

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Jan 13, 2002, 6:27:03 AM1/13/02
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Hi to everyone,
I'm going to buy a stabilizer set for my recurve bow (Hoyt Radian 66") .

I see Easton X10 stabilizer and I live very much the design.

Someone use it ? How it works ? It's better than Easton A/C/E stabilizer ?

thanks

Nick


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Jonny Hodgson

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Jan 13, 2002, 5:51:27 PM1/13/02
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Nick (CJ) <nickwe...@virgilio.it> wrote in message news:a1s41d$199$1...@pegasus.tiscalinet.it...

>
> Hi to everyone,
> I'm going to buy a stabilizer set for my recurve bow (Hoyt Radian 66") .
>
> I see Easton X10 stabilizer and I live very much the design.
>
> Someone use it ? How it works ? It's better than Easton A/C/E stabilizer ?

When I bought new stabilisers recently, it came down to a choice of:

1) a pair of Easton ACE twins, weights not included OR

2) a pair of Arten parallel carbon twins, plus parallel carbon long
rod, all with weights

for pretty much the same price.

Since a stabiliser is basically a stiff bar with a heavy bit on the
end, I'm dubious about the need to spend extra money. Exceptions
might be for multirods (never tried one, but I can see how the
design might cancel vibration better than a single stick) or for
devices with extra internal damping (such as foam or hydraulic core).

IMHO.
HTH!
Jonny


Archeryking

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Jan 13, 2002, 9:23:18 PM1/13/02
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The ACE rods do help to cancle out vibration. They use mass weight to do
so. They also have sand in them. Yes, I did say sand in the edn of the
stabalizer that attaches to the bow. I am guessing that someone will not
beleive me but take your ACE rod and shake it with that end near your ear
and you will hear the sand moveing. Unfortunately I do not know what is in
the X10 rods to cancle out vibration. Also I have no experience with the
rods to be able to say anything good or bad. I have heard that they are
lighter than the ACE rods .


Archeryking

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Joe Tapley

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Jan 14, 2002, 3:45:10 AM1/14/02
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The primary requirement for a torque stabliser is the stiffness of the
rod. With the stabiliser fitted and on the stand see how easy and how
much you can push the end weight around without the bow moving. For your
selected length of rod suggest you go for the stiffest.

Miika Aulio

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Jan 14, 2002, 4:23:35 AM1/14/02
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> Since a stabiliser is basically a stiff bar with a heavy bit on the
> end, I'm dubious about the need to spend extra money.

I'd say that (front) stabilizer is one of the most important piece of
equipment in your bow, so why save on that?

Miika

shadyshark

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Jan 14, 2002, 5:59:25 AM1/14/02
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I thought the X10 stabilisers had been discontinued? I know you can't
get hold of them easily here (UK) anymore.
I've always been a little puzzled by having rods with built in damping
(other than that given by the materials they're made from - carbon
damps high frequencies quite well). It's easy enough to add dampers
(doinkers or TFCs for the more traditional). I bought an X10 extender,
as it looked nice and rigid - I guessed that anything that chunky was
going to be stiff enough to lock the v-bar to my handle as one unit -
but it was also lighter than, for example, an aluminium extender rod.
For the rest, I got Spigarelli Scorpion carbon rods - a lot cheaper,
and I don't think I'll be able to tell any difference. A rod is a rod.
It's just there to hold the weights.

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Jonny Hodgson

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Jan 14, 2002, 2:28:55 PM1/14/02
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Archeryking <arche...@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:qir08.3701$KJ2.73...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...

> "Jonny Hodgson" <jp_ho...@eRnEgMiOnVeEer.com> wrote in message
> news:2mo08.10358$WQ1.1...@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> >
> > Since a stabiliser is basically a stiff bar with a heavy bit on the
> > end, I'm dubious about the need to spend extra money. Exceptions
> > might be for multirods (never tried one, but I can see how the
> > design might cancel vibration better than a single stick) or for
> > devices with extra internal damping (such as foam or hydraulic core).

> The ACE rods do help to cancle out vibration. They use mass weight to do


> so. They also have sand in them. Yes, I did say sand in the edn of the
> stabalizer that attaches to the bow. I am guessing that someone will not
> beleive me but take your ACE rod and shake it with that end near your ear
> and you will hear the sand moveing. Unfortunately I do not know what is in
> the X10 rods to cancle out vibration. Also I have no experience with the
> rods to be able to say anything good or bad. I have heard that they are
> lighter than the ACE rods .

In which case, the ACEs fit into my exception for extra damping.
That point wasn't made to me at all in either the shop or the
catalogue - but they're still not worth twice the price *to me*.

(I tried the Arten twins back-to-back with the ACEs, and couldn't
feel any difference. Either was a noticeable improvement over my
previous, thin aluminium sticks.)

Jonny


Jonny Hodgson

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Jan 14, 2002, 2:31:17 PM1/14/02
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Miika Aulio <mi...@aulio.net> wrote in message news:rsx08.146$3J5....@read2.inet.fi...

Because my shooting isn't good enough to tell the difference between
a parallel carbon one costing forty quid, and one costing eighty;
but is good enough to feel the benefit from changing from tapered
to parallel. Should have done that ages ago, I concede.

Jonny


Greig Middleton

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Jan 15, 2002, 5:00:27 AM1/15/02
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I shoot the X ten rod on a radian riser and have found the results very
pleaseing. I tried the ACE rods and the Beiter rods in comparision but found
the x-ten rod to perform more to my liking.

I have heard a few pepole comment that a more cost effective gain in
stiffness can be acheived by just using the x-ten extender as opossed to a
"standard" smaller diameter unit. Thus using the x-ten extender and a
"standard/lower cost" long rod. I use both an x-ten extender and a x-ten
long rod so I couldnt personally comment on that, but the pepole who have
voiced that opinion I hold in high esteem.

I hope this has been of some help. As always the only way to tell for
yourself is to do what we all do.....ask a lot of questions then try it for
ourselves and do something different ;o)

Greig
Senior Coach Candidate..........still ;o)
WMAS UK


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CJ

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Jan 17, 2002, 5:36:11 PM1/17/02
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Many thanks to all for yours replyes.
I see many rods and extenders in these days, and now I have to decide by
two.
Easton X10 and Easton A/C/E

Easton X10 is hard to find also extenders.

I think to buy X10 rod and A/C/E extenders or if I can't fnd the X10 I'll
buy
a complete A/C/E stabilization.

kind regards

Nick


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Heseva-kuntoutus

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Jan 18, 2002, 1:57:05 AM1/18/02
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> Easton X10 is hard to find also extenders.

X10 line is discontinued. Dunno why.

> I think to buy X10 rod and A/C/E extenders

I'd buy viceversa.

Miika Aulio


MikeP

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Jan 19, 2002, 12:40:31 AM1/19/02
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In article <5HP18.34$sq4....@read2.inet.fi>, kunt...@heseva.fi
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>> Easton X10 is hard to find also extenders.
>
>X10 line is discontinued. Dunno why.

The X10 stabilizers were expensive to manufacture. Easton was
unable to sell them at a price high enough to justify the high
manufacturing costs.

massimo magli

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Jan 24, 2002, 6:15:52 PM1/24/02
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Hi, from Italy,... I am using X10 with a Bernardini Aladin riser, quite
similar to Hoyt Radian in weight and grip... X10 works better than anyelse
stabilizer I used in indoor competition... I have not used it in outdoor
yet... waiting for spring... sorry for my english, have nice shots..

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